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<truijllo> |
hi all! |
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<alect> |
hey |
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<alect> |
greetings chris |
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<locus> |
can anyone tell me how to disable some mainnav link icons? afaik there is no such option, do I have to edit/hack a .py script for that? |
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<alect> |
like what? |
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<locus> |
timeline, roadmap and tickets |
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<alect> |
easiest way is probably to remove the permissions for those components |
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<alect> |
otherwise, yes, manual .py fondling required |
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<locus> |
alect, I've just seen that there's a [component] section in trac.ini that lets you disable/remove any components..fyi |
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<alect> |
yes i am aware of it |
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<locus> |
ah, thats probably what you meant with "easiest way is probably to remove the permissions for those components" ;) |
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<sam`> |
hi |
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<sam`> |
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(r3116) |
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<gluegadget> |
I'm writing an IRC bot for our project that uses trac, you think may it be useful for you?! |
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<gluegadget> |
works fine and now in early stage supports: !roadmap, !ticket and !changeset |
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<alect> |
we have a supybot in #trac |
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<alect> |
@faq faq |
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<evil_twin> |
alect: 'faq' is http://projects.edgewall.com/trac/wiki/TracFaq <-- Read this |
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<gluegadget> |
lemme to show it to you |
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<gluegadget> |
!changeset 3100 |
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<JawsBot> |
Timestamp: 12/31/05 21:28:40 | Author:pablo |
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<JawsBot> |
Message: Hrrr... fixed a bug |
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<gluegadget> |
!ticket 405 |
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<JawsBot> |
Status: new |
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<JawsBot> |
As all of us know some languages like Farsi and Arabic are RTL (Right To Left), and this makes the Jaws localization a bit harder than just translating the strings.We've a quick but dirty solution for this problem that makes the process more pain, and that's to write another template for all gadgets and put them in a theme, so I think we should to make it built-in and put the value in the Jaws Settings |
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<gluegadget> |
!roadmap 0.7.0 |
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<JawsBot> |
Complete: 6% | Active: 47 | Closed: 3 |
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<gluegadget> |
and now lemmet to make it to work for your project's trac |
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<gluegadget> |
!ticket 3011 |
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<JawsBot> |
Status: assigned |
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<gluegadget> |
!changeset 3018 |
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<JawsBot> |
Timestamp: | Author: |
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Message: |
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<gluegadget> |
!roadmap 0.9.5 |
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Complete: 14% | Active: | Closed: |
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<gluegadget> |
alect, any idea ? |
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<gromgull> |
I just updated to 0.9.4, and now all my wiki pages have all their html escaped... |
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<gromgull> |
like here: http://gnowsistest.opendfki.de/wiki |
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<gromgull> |
any ideas? |
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<ValiSystM> |
whohw gromgull ... and how does it look like when you edit the page ? |
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<gromgull> |
it's fine when i edit |
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<gromgull> |
i.e. i get normal wiki markup |
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<gromgull> |
preview also breaks though |
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<gromgull> |
this was an upgrade from 0.9.2 |
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<honda_S2000> |
hi all i'm working with adminconsoleprovider patch but i don't know how to install |
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<honda_S2000> |
can anyone help |
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<honda_S2000> |
sorry i'm a rookie in this things |
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<honda_S2000> |
doesn't anyone know how to apply this patch? |
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<gromgull> |
damn irc client |
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<alect> |
gromgull: i'd try rming /usr/lib/python2.x/site-packages/trac |
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<alect> |
nuke the whole thing and reinstall |
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<alect> |
glue: that is pretty cool |
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<fromvega> |
hello |
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<fromvega> |
I can not login on the Trac system using f****** Internet Explorer |
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<fromvega> |
could you help-me? |
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<fromvega> |
hello |
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<gromgull> |
cool - nuking the python dir worked! |
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<gromgull> |
thanks |
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<gluegadget> |
alect, you think may it be useful for you or being mentioned some-where in track-hacks ? |
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<alect> |
yeah, you could put it in as a hack under scripts perhaps |
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<alect> |
maybe i should add a misc category |
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<fromvega> |
I can not login into trac system using IE. Could you help-me? |
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<gromgull> |
yes, use firefox :) |
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<gromgull> |
(sorry) |
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<muness> |
alect: there? |
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<alect> |
hey muness |
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<muness> |
hey |
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<muness> |
sorted() is still causing problems on 2.3. :( |
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<alect> |
howsat? |
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<muness> |
I wanted to put out a release with your fixes, etc... |
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<muness> |
macros.py:206, 209 |
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<muness> |
if there are no tickets tagged, they blow up. |
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<muness> |
(209 blows up) |
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<muness> |
if there are tagged tickets, 206 does. |
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<alect> |
aha |
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<alect> |
that's what these guys are reporting |
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<alect> |
on the ml |
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<muness> |
I didn't see those yet. |
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<muness> |
the key=str hack works. |
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<muness> |
should I just apply that? |
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<alect> |
no, that won't sort the tickets correctly |
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<alect> |
i'll force it to use that sorted on 2.4 for me |
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<alect> |
hey, have you tried the expression filter yet? |
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<muness> |
no. |
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<muness> |
very excited about that. :) |
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<alect> |
yeah! me too :) |
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<muness> |
I was going to suggest that we add "implicit" tags to indicate whether an object was a wiki, a ticket, etc... |
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<muness> |
it looks like you did something like that, right? At least for expressions? |
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<alect> |
hmm, and ditch namespaces? |
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<muness> |
not necessarily. |
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<muness> |
just to simplify queries. |
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<alect> |
actually no, although now that you mention it the examples seem to suggest that |
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<muness> |
I see... |
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<muness> |
what do you think? |
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<alect> |
it currently still uses tagspaces=(wiki,ticket) style |
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<muness> |
ah |
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<alect> |
it's not a bad idea...could ditch tagspaces altogether then |
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<alect> |
hmm |
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<muness> |
So, each tagprovider can register it's implicit tag. |
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<alect> |
although maybe not |
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<alect> |
because a wiki page could be explicitly tagged with "ticket" |
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<muness> |
yep. |
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<muness> |
I consider that a good thing. :) |
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<alect> |
it could just use the tagspace as the default |
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<muness> |
ah. |
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<alect> |
default tag that is |
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<muness> |
makes sense. |
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<alect> |
one issue is that if you get_tags() from an object and it includes the implicit tag |
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<muness> |
why not? |
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<alect> |
do you strip it before applying it when you set_tags() |
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<alect> |
? |
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<muness> |
a user can always trip themselves up if they are persistent. |
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<alect> |
that might confuse users |
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<muness> |
strip it if it's already implicitly defined, sure. |
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<muness> |
otherwise, I'd say we keep it, although we could constrain it. |
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<muness> |
i.e. not allow wiki entries to be tagged ticket. |
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<muness> |
it's just a thought. |
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<alect> |
that seems a bit too authoritarian i think |
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<muness> |
i agree. I'd rather let them do weird things if they want to. |
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<alect> |
hehe |
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<alect> |
users :) |
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<alect> |
hmm, i need a fresh trac env |
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<muness> |
i think we get a lot of power if we allow the implicit tagging type of thing. like a blog entry may later come from a different source without having to modify the query code. |
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<muness> |
or folks could define their tickets as wiki entries if they're so inclined. |
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<alect> |
yes, it's an interesting idea |
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<alect> |
i like it |
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<alect> |
my only concern is if they remove the implicit tag, it will reappear magically |
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<alect> |
which might confuse them |
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<muness> |
i see. |
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<alect> |
or annoy them |
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<muness> |
maybe we don't show it in the edit box? |
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<alect> |
yeah, that could work |
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<muness> |
and then we hide tagspaces from them. |
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<muness> |
that should make them less confused. |
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<alect> |
yeah |
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<alect> |
maybe we should just get rid of tagspaces |
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<alect> |
if we go the implicit tag route |
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<alect> |
there's no real need for them |
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<alect> |
aha! |
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<alect> |
replicated |
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<muness> |
i see what you mean... yeah, one less concept to deal with is usually a good thing. |
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<alect> |
try this: |
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<alect> |
def sorted(iterable, key=None): |
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<alect> |
lst = key and [(key(i), i) for i in iterable] or list(iterable) |
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<alect> |
lst.sort() |
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<alect> |
return lst |
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<alect> |
ah |
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<alect> |
scratch that |
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<alect> |
we don't even use key= |
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<muness> |
yeah, we never do. |
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<alect> |
so we can just use this: |
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<alect> |
def sorted(iterable): |
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<alect> |
lst = list(iterable) |
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<alect> |
lst.sort() |
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<alect> |
return lst |
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<exarkun> |
sort takes a key argument |
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<alect> |
under 2.3? |
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<exarkun> |
pft sucks to 2.3 |
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<exarkun> |
;) |
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<alect> |
yeah |
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<alect> |
all this shit is for 2.3 users |
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<alect> |
very annoying |
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<muness> |
i hear you. |
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<muness> |
but we're stuck with 2.3 until svn python bindings come out for 2.4. |
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<alect> |
yeah :( |
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<muness> |
us poor windows users. :( |
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<alect> |
so that should fix the bug. i'll commit the fix |
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<alect> |
hmm, should we perhaps have a "devel" branch? |
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<alect> |
and roll back the expression stuff |
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<muness> |
it's alright to leave the sneak preview in. |
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<muness> |
;) |
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<alect> |
what i'm thinking is have a "stable" branch, which gets tagged for releases |
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<alect> |
and contains just bugfixes |
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<alect> |
so 0.3.1 will be bugfixes |
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<alect> |
and "trunk" is destined for 0.4 |
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<alect> |
? |
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<muness> |
if we have something major, like maybe the get rid of tagspace, sure. |
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<muness> |
but I don't mind rolling out the expression stuff now. |
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<alect> |
yeah that was pretty much what i was thinking of |
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<alect> |
ok |
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<muness> |
I'll copy 0.3 to branches. we can use that for fixes from now on. |
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<muness> |
trunk can be experimental after this release. |
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<alect> |
sounds good |
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<alect> |
amazing how many people don't follow the instructions |
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<muness> |
hehe |
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<alect> |
it's unreal |
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<alect> |
you see the guy with the . instead of _? |
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<muness> |
that's why I want to give them a really simple instruction page and eggs to download. |
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<alect> |
yeah |
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<muness> |
yes, I saw that. |
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<muness> |
but I am really surprised at the number of people using this now. |
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<alect> |
yeah it's good to see :) |
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<muness> |
I wonder what %age of trac users do. |
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<muness> |
and here it was the result of a long night of drinking and futurama . :) |
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<alect> |
hehe |
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<muness> |
originally anyway... |
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<alect> |
futurama rules |
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<muness> |
yeah. they should let him do that and kill the simpsons already. |
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<muness> |
you me to commit that new sorted? |
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<muness> |
it works for me. |
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<alect> |
yeah, go for it |
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<alect> |
i have some expr bugfixes that i need to clean up before i can commit |
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<muness> |
k |
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<muness> |
go ahead and mark trunk as 0.4? or not yet? |
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<alect> |
wait until i've pushed this expr fix...it breaks if you have tags like "alec@foo.com" |
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<alect> |
which you can get a lot of from the ticket system |
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<muness> |
:) |
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<muness> |
that's so cool. |
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<alect> |
yeah :) |
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<alect> |
i like being able to use any ticket field |
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<alect> |
that is very nice |
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<alect> |
i haven't done custom fields yet though |
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<muness> |
Do we need to worry about custom? Do you need that for trachacks? |
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<alect> |
i think that can wait |
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<muness> |
what's the syntax for customizing ticket fields to search on? |
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<muness> |
[tags.ticket] |
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<muness> |
fields=[component|severity|keywords|priority|owner|reporter|cc|version|milestone|status|resolution|summary|description] |
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<alect> |
comma separated iirc |
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<alect> |
eg. fields=component,severity,keywords |
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<alect> |
etc. |
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<alect> |
[tags] |
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<alect> |
expression_space = true |
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<alect> |
that's to enable expression support under /tags |
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<muness> |
got it. |
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<alect> |
it *should* be backwards compatible |
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<alect> |
okay, that commit should fix the expr problems |
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<muness> |
I've updated the docs. |
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<muness> |
I'll rebuild the eggs and send the announcement... |
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<alect> |
okay |
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<alect> |
0.3.1? |
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<muness> |
0.3.1, yes. |
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<muness> |
Would you check the docs? |
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<muness> |
http://muness.textdriven.com/trac/wiki/tags/Setup |
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<alect> |
yep, looks good to me |
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<muness> |
cool. |
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<alect> |
might get rid of that cache i think |
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<alect> |
mmm, maybe |
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<muness> |
causing trouble? |
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<alect> |
only if you have, say, a page called "foo" for tag "foo", then delete the page |
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<alect> |
any tags will still refer to the wiki page |
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<alect> |
actually, likewise if you create a new page, it will still refer to the /tags/ instanced |
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<alect> |
hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm |
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<muness> |
maybe expire the cache? |
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<alect> |
actually i should be able to use the wikichangelistener code |
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<muness> |
but then we should put in something more flexible that we can use for all tag stuff. |
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<alect> |
flush the cache when the wiki changes |
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<muness> |
short term solution methinks. |
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<muness> |
but it should work fine. |
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<alect> |
yeah |
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<muness> |
coderanger: does the hackinstallplugin work with tractags? or is there anything I can do to enable that? |
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<muness> |
alect: I was also wondering if there was a way to tag commit messages/changesets ? |
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<alect> |
yes, i've pondered that myself |
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<alect> |
actually, do you want to add this cache flushing to 0.3.1? |
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<alect> |
it'll probably avoid some support queries :) |
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<alect> |
ah, too late :) |
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<muness> |
We can always post another release. |
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<muness> |
I'll list it it the setup page as a possible issue. |
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<alect> |
okay |
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<alect> |
fix committed |
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<alect> |
cor, you know, you could even have virtual tag providers, for things like the timeline |
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<alect> |
it could provide virtual tags for dates |
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<alect> |
so if you searched for 20060401 it would show you all the timeline events from that day |
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<alect> |
holy shit! that's awesome |
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<alect> |
hmmm, except there's no way for one provider to contribute tags to another providers objects |
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<pacopablo> |
slacker! fix it, now! :) |
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<alect> |
api change! |
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<pacopablo> |
morning all |
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<alect> |
hey :) |
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<pacopablo> |
I'm thinking that I need to take a look at the tags expression syntax |
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<pacopablo> |
could be usefull for blog |
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<alect> |
yeah, likely |
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<alect> |
i wish i'd used it from the beginning rather than the operation=... stuff |
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<pacopablo> |
any page that explains the expression syntax? |
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<alect> |
http://muness.textdriven.com/trac/wiki/tags#ListTagged |
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<pacopablo> |
thanks |
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<Semhirage> |
just a quick question, did you guys create trac from scratch, or did you use and exisiting web framework for it? |
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<alect> |
actually that quoting thing is a lie now, it automagically quotes anything that's not an operator |
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<coderanger_cs> |
Morning all |
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<alect> |
it was created from scratch afaik |
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<pacopablo> |
Semhirage: I don't know the answer to that, but from looking at the code, my guess is that they created it from scratch |
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<alect> |
hey coderanger |
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<pacopablo> |
morning coderanger_cs |
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<coderanger_cs> |
Semhirage: Trac uses a lot of things, but the core framework is new |
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<Semhirage> |
ok, kinda figured |
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<Semhirage> |
any comments on dJango? |
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<alect> |
i like it |
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<pacopablo> |
my biggest problem with it is it's ORM |
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<pacopablo> |
no multi-column primary keys |
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<pacopablo> |
that's just EVIL! |
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<pacopablo> |
though SQLObject sucks too |
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<alect> |
magic removal branch gets rid of a lot of the cruft |
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<coderanger_cs> |
achemy looks very shiny though :) |
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<coderanger_cs> |
*alchemy |
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<alect> |
yeah it does |
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<pacopablo> |
sqlalchemy has a lot of promise |
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<Semhirage> |
hrm, can i link sql-alchemy and django together? |
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<coderanger_cs> |
doubtful |
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<alect> |
if you want to experience pain beyond anything you've imagined |
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<alect> |
sure |
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<coderanger_cs> |
Other than ignoring the django ORM stuff totally |
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<coderanger_cs> |
heh |
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<Semhirage> |
i don't know a whole lot of python and im trying to port a php/mysql based web app to python/postgres |
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<Semhirage> |
sql-alchemy sounds perfect for the dba end of things |
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<coderanger_cs> |
Thats the problem with any highly integrated system, you cant pick and choose |
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<Semhirage> |
but i have no clue how to do python web work |
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<coderanger_cs> |
use Trac! |
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<coderanger_cs> |
:) |
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<alect> |
i'd use django personally |
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<Semhirage> |
i do use trac, for my game developement dev site |
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<alect> |
the admin interface is gold |
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<Semhirage> |
how heavy is django though, all im really doing is building a web based remote admin system for my dns server |
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<pacopablo> |
django is fairly light, requirements wise at least |
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<alect> |
you might consider web.py in that case |
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<alect> |
http://webpy.org/ |
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<pacopablo |
