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April 22, 2006

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[01:05:09] <soloturn> hi, somebody of you could help me in making the wikiwyg a plugin to trac with a minimal changeset to trac, and not a changeset to trac?
[01:13:03] <tic> Wonder if it can output RST..
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[01:17:57] <soloturn> i'll discuss that on monday on channel #wikiwyg. currently i made a minimal trac.js which outputs trac wiki syntax. but there is room for improvment i think. but before thinking about output i'd like the integration. i know it can output kwiki, and there is also a prototype to output mediawiki, so it should be no problem to output rst too.
[01:18:51] <soloturn> the integration should be simple, but i'm to stupid for getting it right ...
[01:18:52] <tic> Wow, awesome.
[01:19:09] <tic> Now I guess I actually prefer writing stuff in plaintext, but there are probably others who don't.
[01:29:03] <alect> soluturn: are you attempting to replace just the wiki editor, or other parts?
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[02:29:47] <soloturn> no, i do not want to replace the wiki editor. it should be a complete addition with a very minimal change to trac core
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[02:31:22] <soloturn> i have "only" 3 integration problems: (1) where do it (2) how to get the path correct so it works
[02:32:01] <soloturn> (3) get the html output so that it works also for tickets and rights (this one the least important, as for wikis there is an ease and one-line solution)
[02:33:10] <soloturn> but what i do not understand up to now: how do you reach that a javascript or a template X is loaded on every page, but only if plugin X is installed.
[02:34:17] <soloturn> loaded means: the page contains <script> .... x.js</script> with the correct path, cause x.js is part of the plugin
[02:35:29] <alect> with trunk, there is a function trac.web.chrome.add_javascript() for adding javascript links
[02:35:52] <soloturn> i know that one.
[02:36:25] <alect> well, if you implement a request handler, the match_request() method can inject javascript for every request
[02:36:37] <alect> dodgy, but effective
[02:37:18] <soloturn> exactly this is what i am not able to do. implement a request handler so it gets called every time.
[02:38:05] <alect> actually, sorry, a navigation provider would get called on every request
[02:38:26] <soloturn> ah?
[02:38:32] <soloturn> did not have that idea ...
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[04:02:47] <TuX_BuBling> hello all
[04:03:54] <TuX_BuBling> hwo do i find a default conf file?
[04:04:26] <TuX_BuBling> i just installed trac on my server, but it tells me there's no project available... How do i create one?
[04:04:39] <alect> @guide
[04:04:40] <evil_twin> alect: "guide" is http://projects.edgewall.com/trac/wiki/TracGuide <- Read the guide (and the FAQ), then ask questions. In that order.
[04:05:17] <TuX_BuBling> how i jum a part
[04:05:22] <TuX_BuBling> the trac-admin one
[04:05:23] <TuX_BuBling> sorry
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[04:09:17] <renewbie> does trac need mod_python in apache?
[04:09:59] <misc> no
[04:10:58] <renewbie> misc: thanks
[04:14:00] <misc> you can use cgi
[04:18:08] <renewbie> can I just copy everything in cgi-bin and configure
[04:22:49] <misc> @cgi
[04:22:49] <evil_twin> misc: Error: "cgi" is not a valid command.
[04:23:06] <misc> renewbie: you should take a look at trac guide
[04:23:09] <misc> @guide
[04:23:09] <evil_twin> misc: "guide" is http://projects.edgewall.com/trac/wiki/TracGuide <- Read the guide (and the FAQ), then ask questions. In that order.
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[04:30:00] <renewbie> I had python installed at the time of installation
[04:30:30] <renewbie> how can I verify if I have swog-py
[04:31:01] <renewbie> I installed subversion using apt-get
[04:32:46] <misc> you need python-svn
[04:34:55] <renewbie> got it, its python2.3-subversion
[04:42:10] <renewbie> does installation of trac need python sources?
[04:42:28] <renewbie> I am getting error "error: invalid Python installation: unable to open /usr/lib/python2.3/config/Makefile (No such file or directory)"
[04:44:08] <misc> it requires python-devel
[04:44:20] <misc> but wy don't you use trac package of your distribution ?
[04:47:48] <renewbie> not sure how it will be available over the net
[04:48:25] <renewbie> i am using debian, and the simulation of trac install using apt-get says apache is optional
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[05:13:20] <soloturn> don't try with cgi if you have mod_python available.
[05:14:09] <soloturn> in debian:
[05:14:09] <soloturn> # wajig search mod_python
[05:15:22] <soloturn> if you just want to play, dont use apache at all, search for "tracd" on the edgwall site.
[05:20:15] <alect> @tracd
[05:20:15] <evil_twin> alect: "tracd" is http://projects.edgewall.com/trac/wiki/TracStandalone
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[06:16:33] <deplifer> Hi all i have an issue with trac + lighttpd the theme seems not to come up if I have not specified some character after '/' ie. www.example.com/trac/ does nto show the theme but www.example.com/trac/somechars wills how the theme
[06:40:32] <alect> xapwrap document sucks of the arse
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[07:54:38] <ranq> hello, this page for example describes the extension point architecture used in trac: http://projects.edgewall.com/trac/wiki/WorkFlow
[07:55:02] <ranq> as i've understood in eclipse there is something similar. is wish to learn more about this, is there any good reference material available?
[07:55:21] <alect> http://projects.edgewall.com/trac/wiki/TracDev
[07:56:20] <alect> jborg, somebody was looking for edgewall personnel about contracting work
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[07:57:32] <jborg> alect, okay thanks, I think I got some email about that yesterday.
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[08:28:32] <cmlenz> jborg: how has p.e.c been keeping up since you added the indices etc?
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[08:39:40] <jborg> cmlenz, pretty well I think, I haven't restarted it once since then.
[08:40:13] <jborg> cmlenz, I'm currently looking into exactly what changes need to be done.
[08:45:00] <jborg> cmlenz, without these indices some queries takes several seconds unless the entire table is in the buffer cache. This probably explains why we initially thought the timeline was broken/unresponsive when upgrading to trunk.
[08:45:35] <cmlenz> were the indices removed, or didn't they exist in 0.9.x either
[08:45:36] <cmlenz> ?
[08:47:46] <jborg> they didn't exist there either. But trunk probably accesses the session a bit more than 0.9.
[08:48:12] <jborg> but p.e.c wasn't exactly blazing fast before the upgrade either. The session table had more than 240k rows
[08:48:28] <asmodai> heh
[08:52:26] <alect> woah
[08:54:13] <jborg> and all but 40 was unauthenticated sessions only containing variables generated by the query module :)
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[09:21:52] <soloturn> p.e.c?
[09:23:37] <soloturn> projects.edgewall.com ...
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[13:48:43] <Thanatermesis> what is the better way to report bugs via trac system ? making a tickte ?
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[14:00:23] <s0undt3ch> pacopablo: since you were the one that pointed to the option of first doing all iterations of the templates previews and the adding that to a single hdf var
[14:00:42] <s0undt3ch> instead of doing the iterations on the cs template
[14:02:07] <s0undt3ch> how can I output plain html(un-escaped) to the wiki page?
[14:03:22] <s0undt3ch> or actually anyone, can I output plain html withouth being escaped via an hdf var?
[14:10:31] <s0undt3ch> bummer, everyone seems to be enjoying their weekend :|
[14:16:43] <soloturn> what is a hdf var?
[14:19:37] <asmodai> clearsilver template variable
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[14:36:40] <s0undt3ch> bbl
[14:58:06] <soloturn> something like the table of content macro does not do that?
[14:58:43] <soloturn> http://trac-hacks.org/wiki/TocMacro
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[15:22:35] <sam`> trac timeline is still randomly broken
[15:22:42] <sam`> i get the following error message in the logfile : http://code.bulix.org/3381
[15:22:51] <sam`> and i get a 500 ISE in the browser
[15:24:02] <s0undt3ch> hello there sam`!
[15:24:08] <s0undt3ch> using trunk?
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[15:27:41] <pacopablo> s0undt3ch: just put HTML in the HDF var
[15:27:50] <pacopablo> once the value is in the HDF, no escaping is done
[15:28:12] <pacopablo> it's functions like Markup and wiki_to_html that do the escaping
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[15:31:29] <s0undt3ch> pacopablo: well, thanks, I've gotten into the iterations again, since their worki way better than previously, but I was adding plain html to the HDF var
[15:32:13] <s0undt3ch> but the possible problem was that the hdf var was being used inside a wiki page
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[15:32:31] <s0undt3ch> I wasn't using it on a new page
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[16:35:10] <alect> hi
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[17:04:59] <s0undt3ch> what would be the SQL statement to fetch all lattest versions of wiki pages?
[17:06:51] <s0undt3ch> he he, got it
[17:09:54] <s0undt3ch> well, actually I didn't
[17:53:40] <matt_good> s0undt3ch: you just want the version numbers, or all the wiki content too?
[17:57:19] <matt_good> versions: "select name, max(version) from wiki group by name"
[17:57:35] <matt_good> everything: "select * from wiki where version = (select max(version) from wiki w2 where wiki.name = w2.name)"
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[18:03:19] <s0undt3ch> matt_good: he he, yeah, after recuing help on $sql, I got to that result
[18:03:29] <s0undt3ch> SELECT name, text, version from templates t1 WHERE version=(SELECT max(t2.version) FROM templates t2 WHERE t1.name=t2.name);
[18:03:48] <s0undt3ch> were templates is equal, mimics wiki
[18:03:54] <s0undt3ch> the tables, I men
[18:03:57] <s0undt3ch> *mean
[18:04:24] <s0undt3ch> and you're 2nd approach will give bad results
[18:04:46] <s0undt3ch> select * from wiki where version = (select max(w2.version) from wiki w2 where wiki.name = w2.name)
[18:06:21] <matt_good> s0undt3ch: how so?
[18:06:37] <s0undt3ch> select * from wiki where version = (select max(w2.version) from wiki w2 where wiki.name = w2.name)
[18:06:54] <s0undt3ch> wait, trying your way
[18:07:29] <s0undt3ch> matt_good: nope, your way also works
[18:09:29] <matt_good> ah, yeah I guess it's safer to use the alias in the subselect, but sqlite seems to be ok w/o it
[18:10:06] <s0undt3ch> then, I'm keeping the alias, just to be safe ;)
[18:10:43] <s0undt3ch> matt_good: will my first alias create such a slower query that I should remove it?
[18:10:58] <s0undt3ch> ie, does alias slow down stuff?
[18:11:12] <matt_good> no, it shouldn't
[18:12:06] <s0undt3ch> I wouldn't want trac to become slow because of my sql queries ;), besides it's only one oage that has that query, all others are way simpler
[18:12:21] <s0undt3ch> /oage/page/
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[18:19:11] <s0undt3ch> well, I must be going, I'm up in about 4.5 hours for a 15H sunday work day, bahhh
[18:19:14] <s0undt3ch> gn8 all
[18:19:23] <matt_good> later
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[21:13:13] <matt_good> grrr
[21:13:25] <matt_good> alect: I think it's time to install spam-filter on trac-hacks: http://trac-hacks.org/ticket/70
[21:25:11] <alect> yeah :(
[21:25:14] <alect> sucky
[21:25:28] <alect> any idea which module is the most effective?
[21:27:14] <alect> ticket delete plugin = handy
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[21:33:30] <alect> i wish people would block quote tracebacks
[21:33:52] <alect> maybe trac needs automatic traceback detection code in the wiki parser ;)
[21:36:00] <matt_good> the akismet module is the main one
[21:36:18] <alect> okay, i'll install it now
[21:36:58] <alect> any spam on pec since enabling it?
[21:37:04] <matt_good> you'll need a WordPress API key for it
[21:37:14] <alect> yeah so i see
[21:37:36] <matt_good> a couple slipped through, but it's definitely dropped significantly
[21:40:10] <matt_good> I have no idea whether the IP blacklister is effective or not
[21:40:33] <matt_good> I got the idea from a spam plugin for WP
[21:40:52] <alect> probably can't hurt :)
[21:42:06] <alect> btw, i have a patch for globally installing plugins in $PREFIX/share/trac/plugins...should i commit it?
[21:42:23] <alect> and, do you think it should auto-enable them like it does for plugins in the env dir?
[21:43:01] <matt_good> no, I wouldn't auto-enable them
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[21:43:27] <alect> right, that was my leaning too
[21:44:48] <matt_good> I guess the issue is that some people don't have write access to site-packages?
[21:44:53] <pacopablo> what's it with people asking the same question on the mailing list in rapid succession?
[21:45:21] <alect> that, and most plugins aren't packaged using the o/s packaging system
[21:45:28] <alect> so they're just spammed into site-packages
[21:45:46] <alect> paco: i think the 0.9.5 release brings them out of the woodwork :)
[21:46:33] <matt_good> pacopablo: I'm not sure
[21:46:55] <matt_good> I sometimes can't tell if they've reposted it, or if I'm getting 2 copies of the message
[21:47:01] <alect> matt: there's a ticket about it...#2638
[21:47:16] <alect> the patch auto-enables them though, so i'll fix that
[21:47:28] <matt_good> sometimes my mail server does weird things and my messages reappear in my inbox after my filters have moved them to /Trac
[21:47:42] <alect> heh
[21:47:45] <alect> keeps you on your toes
[21:47:55] <pacopablo> matt_good: this was the same question but from a different person
[21:48:03] <matt_good> pacopablo: ah
[21:48:04] <alect> okay, spam filter is enabled
[21:48:29] <alect> i don't see the rbl filter plugin in webadmin though
[21:48:46] <pacopablo> and I understand if it's been a month or so, archives aren't really fun to search through, but the question was asked yesterday! :)
[21:49:01] <alect> heh
[21:49:47] <alect> i need some spam so i can test it!!! :)
[21:50:40] <matt_good> you need dnspython installed for the blacklisting plugin
[21:50:49] <alect> ah
[21:51:04] <alect> got any spam?
[21:51:37] <matt_good> alect: yeah, I started saving samples for testing :)
[21:51:55] <alect> want to try to create/append some?
[21:52:32] <matt_good> sure
[21:52:53] <matt_good> um, Cannot find an implementation of the "IRequestHandler" interface named "". Please update the option trac.default_handler in trac.ini.
[21:53:03] <alect> O_o
[21:53:50] <alect> hmm
[21:54:01] <alect> that is not good
[21:54:57] <matt_good> my spam isn't being blocked either
[21:55:09] <matt_good> check the logs
[21:55:29] <alect> the config got borked
[21:55:38] <matt_good> I tried a couple on SandBox
[21:56:26] <alect> ah typo aSkimet
[21:56:52] <alect> ok try now
[21:58:33] <alect> i really need to remove all the TagIt calls
[21:58:35] <matt_good> yeah
[21:58:38] <alect> 2006-04-23 14:58:13,118 Trac[main] WARNING: 500 Internal Error (Akismet rejected spam)
[21:58:39] <alect> BA<
[21:58:41] <alect> BAM
[21:58:45] <matt_good> heh
[21:58:47] <alect> beautiful :)
[21:58:53] <matt_good> now you can delete my revisions
[21:59:34] <alect> done
[21:59:36] <alect> beautiful
[21:59:44] <alect> thanks :)
[22:00:18] <alect> i updated the poll plugin so it can u