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<franck34> |
hi all, is there a way to change "resolve as" for ticket ? (i'd like to change 'fixed' in an other word) |
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<franck34> |
trac 0.9.3 |
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<alect> |
evening |
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<iliah> |
hello, what to do with .egg file ? how to install it ? |
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<alect> |
@egg |
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<evil_twin> |
alect: Error: "egg" is not a valid command. |
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<alect> |
@eggs |
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<evil_twin> |
alect: "eggs" is http://projects.edgewall.com/trac/wiki/TracPlugins |
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<iliah> |
evil_twin: thanks |
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<evil_twin> |
iliah: Error: "thanks" is not a valid command. |
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<iliah> |
alect: thanks |
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<iliah> |
but I can't find executable easy_install |
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<iliah> |
they called it "EASY_install" :))) |
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<iliah> |
ok, I've just installed WebAdmin Plugin, but can't catch how to call it in browser |
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<ryepup> |
iliah: have you given your user admin permissions using trac-admin? |
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<ryepup> |
the TRAC_ADMIN permission specifically |
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<iliah> |
ryepup: yes |
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<iliah> |
may be it's version |
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<iliah> |
my trac is 0.9.5 and the latest webadmin i've found is for 0.9.3 |
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<ryepup> |
I dunno, that gets beyond my depth |
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<alect> |
you need to have setuptools installed to use any plugins |
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<alect> |
then restart your web server |
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<iliah> |
aa, restart |
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<iliah> |
ok |
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<iliah> |
"The following error occurred while trying to extract file(s) to the Python egg cache: [Errno 13] Permission denied: '/root/.python-eggs'" |
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<iliah> |
I see it after restarting webserver |
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<Narada> |
hi is it TRAC_ADMIN privilege to do "everything" in trac? |
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<Narada> |
or do i need to set invididual *_ADMIN privs? |
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<alect> |
iliah: you have not followed the instructions on the plugins page |
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<alect> |
narada: TRAC_ADMIN is everything |
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<Narada> |
k |
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<Narada> |
no point me adding wiki_admin then |
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<iliah> |
alect: I guess setting "SetEnv PYTHON_EGG_CACHE /smwhere" left |
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<Narada> |
does adding trac_admin automatically add the other ones for you? |
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<Narada> |
in the listing i mean |
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<Narada> |
because i have all these other admin privs |
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<Narada> |
did it add those automatically |
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<alect> |
trac-admin is a meta-permission, it includes all others |
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<Narada> |
alect: so someone must have explicitly added the other *_ADMIN perms? |
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<Narada> |
if they are not automatically added i mean |
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<Narada> |
by trac |
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<Narada> |
the answer to that question is "Yes trac adds all the individual *_ADMIN perms when you add TRAC_ADMIN". I just tried it. |
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<Narada> |
how to delete tickets? |
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<Narada> |
don't see anything for that |
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<Narada> |
omg: http://projects.edgewall.com/trac/ticket/298 |
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<Narada> |
seems like there's still a lot of core functionality missing |
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<Narada> |
it's okay though since it hasn't even got to 0.10 yet let alone 1.0 |
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<ValiSystM> |
Narada: read the comments ... in a World Where Human Being Was Not Foolish you should not need delete tickets |
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<ValiSystM> |
first i wonder how to delete tickets too |
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<Narada> |
ValiSystM: I've read the ticket but I totally disagree. |
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<Narada> |
Absolutely and emphaticallly disagree. |
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<Narada> |
You should be able to. |
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<Narada> |
You should have *the facility* to modify any part of the system should you want to. |
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<Narada> |
I don't want anyone else making the presumption on my behalf of whether I need to delete a ticket or not. |
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<Narada> |
Give the user the choice. Isn't that the philosophy? Don't design the requirements design the product. |
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<Narada> |
Anyway I'll stop typing now :) |
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<alect> |
you can delete tickets with trac-admin in 0.10 |
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<Narada> |
yeah i'm waiting for 0.10 |
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<Narada> |
well i wait for every release actually :) |
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<alect> |
you could use trunk, it's pretty stable |
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<alect> |
edgewall and trac-hacks are using it, to name but two |
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<ValiSystM> |
Narada: i totally do not agree with you, funny. Some people decide to make a bug tacker, and they think of how to make it the best. If their product is good and i trust them, then i follow and accept their choice. Else i'll go and see another one, if i can. A bug tracker is not a general purpose thing, so to have good software you can add limitations, if they have sense. Not to implement delete a ticket HAS sense |
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<ValiSystM> |
but while there are foolish people in this world, we need ticket deletion, i agree |
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<Narada> |
ValiSystM: it's not to cater just for foolish people; it's because trac has a steep learning curve and people experiment; that's one very compelling reason |
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<Narada> |
and people make mistakes |
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<Narada> |
and change their mind a lot |
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<Narada> |
and there is no alternative to trac |
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<Narada> |
so i'd prefer to recommend featured to trac rather than switch to bugzilla |
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<Narada> |
s/featured/features/ |
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<ValiSystM> |
"and people make mistakes" "and change their mind a lot" <- if you're talking about tickets, you can close it |
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<ValiSystM> |
having rubbish tickets should not annoy anyone, except "foolish" people, as said in the ticket about delete feature |
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<Narada> |
Well you are making that assumption on my behalf for me and saying that I am a foolish person. |
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<ValiSystM> |
oops |
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<ValiSystM> |
that's what i tried to avoid ^^^ |
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<Narada> |
no worries |
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<ValiSystM> |
in fact, i've seen many good ideas of developpers being rolled back to a "more standard" behaviour because of habits of users |
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<ValiSystM> |
but here that's not really the point |
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<ValiSystM> |
anyway when i discovered that you cannot delete a ticket, i wondered why. and then i understantood that it was simply because you should'nt need it |
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<ValiSystM> |
(but here we need it for the specific context of companies) |
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<ValiSystM> |
and i thought it was a good idea, and seing this rolled back just get users stuck in their habits |
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<ValiSystM> |
it's something that we see too often |
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<atli> |
hello |
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<atli> |
silly plugin problem |
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<atli> |
trac 095 does not seem to find my plugins |
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<atli> |
project plugins that I dropped into the project plugin directory |
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<Narada> |
hmm no processor for highlighting php in trac |
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<tuxipuxi> |
enscript doesn't support php? |
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<Narada> |
is it #!php at the beginning of code block? |
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<tuxipuxi> |
atli: which plugin(s), how did you install it, is it made for your python version, does it have the right permissions? |
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<tuxipuxi> |
Narada: hm dunno |
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<atli> |
it just helloworld |
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<alect> |
@logging |
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<evil_twin> |
alect: "logging" is http://projects.edgewall.com/trac/wiki/TracLogging <-- Enable debug logging to file, ensure your environments log/ directory is writeable by your web server user, check for errors. |
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<atli> |
I made it myself ala trac-hacks |
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<atli> |
it is 777 right now just to make sure |
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<Narada> |
tuxipuxi: it does support it but i don't know how to actually use it |
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<atli> |
I dropped it into the plugins directory... Ours is a twice upgraded trac version, from 084 to 09b to ö95 |
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<atli> |
I create the plugins directory myself in the envirionment directory |
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<atli> |
wasnt' there already, I guess because the dir has been there since 084 days |
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<tuxipuxi> |
Narada: http://projects.edgewall.com/trac/wiki/TracSyntaxColoring says "(*) Supported as inline code blocks in Wiki text using WikiProcessors." .. maybe that helps |
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<Narada> |
tuxipuxi: yeah i saw that |
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<Narada> |
but it doesn't quite work |
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<Narada> |
in fact it doesn't do anything at alll |
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<Narada> |
#!php |
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<Narada> |
that's what i'm using inside {{{ }}} |
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<Narada> |
nope just can't get syntax highlighting to work |
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<Narada> |
annoying it works for c but not for ph-p |
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<Narada> |
*php |
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<Narada> |
in fact it works for every language i've tried except for the one i want :P |
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<cbrake> |
is there any way to export all wiki pages from a trac installation? I'm thinking it may be nice to have a way to archive the wiki contents at the end of a project. |
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<boorad> |
cbrake: check the usage on trac-admin, I believe there's a wiki dump |
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<cbrake> |
boorad: great -- thanks! |
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<lukaszr> |
hello.. doesn't anyone here know if there's a #creole channel? |
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<boorad> |
pacopablo: u there? |
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<pacopablo> |
I am now |
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<tuxipuxi> |
when will WebAdmin support the editing of custom fields? |
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<coderanger_cs> |
@motto |
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<evil_twin> |
coderanger_cs: "motto" is patches accepted |
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<boorad> |
pacopablo: db connection leak patch didn't help. I turned on the Trac pooling and immediately got an idle connection on my local machine. |
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<pacopablo> |
hmm, well we should let jborg know :) |
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<boorad> |
pacopablo: I run that script to check and kill connections every hour, but a bot took me down again this PM. |
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<boorad> |
I have the perfect setup for load-testing Trac - ugh!!! |
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<tuxipuxi> |
there's currently no way to edit a custom field through some kind of web interface, right? |
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<mpav> |
I'm tring to get the webadmin to work w/ 0.9.5.. i dropped the TracAdmin-*.egg file in the plugins folder, but the Admin tab does not show up for a user with TRAC_ADMIN.. thoughts? |
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<tuxipuxi> |
or better.. the possible values of a field |
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<franck34> |
erf |
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<mpav> |
nm.. needed to install setuptools |
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<mpav> |
got it going now |
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<fredb> |
/part |
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<cbrake> |
do you have to use email addresses for trac logins for email notifications to work properly, or can you use a short login name, set your email address in settings, and have trac figure it out when sending notifications. |
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<cbrake> |
email notifications are not working for me yet -- everything in the log looks ok, but I'm not getting mail yet. |
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<tuxipuxi> |
can i somehow sort tickets by a custom field value? |
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<coderanger_cs> |
Not really |
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<tuxipuxi> |
bummer |
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<tuxipuxi> |
this could only be done by patching trac's codebase itself, i guess? |
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<jjb_lyceum> |
hi, i have a big problem |
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<jjb_lyceum> |
after using the trac-admin plugin to delete a spam ticket |
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<jjb_lyceum> |
http://source.ibiblio.org/trac/lyceum/milestone/0.31 |
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<jjb_lyceum> |
click on the number for active tickets (22 ) |
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<jjb_lyceum> |
will a resync correct this? |
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<jjb_lyceum> |
okay i tried a resync, didn't work. |
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<jjb_lyceum> |
cmlenz: ping |
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<cmlenz> |
yo |
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<jjb_lyceum> |
^^^ |
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<jjb_lyceum> |
i couldn't find any tracwebadmin doc |
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<cmlenz> |
I can't see any problem? |
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<jjb_lyceum> |
sorry if this is covered somewhere... |
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<jjb_lyceum> |
hmm.. |
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<jjb_lyceum> |
well look at that |
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<jjb_lyceum> |
it's fixed now |
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<jjb_lyceum> |
very strange |
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<cmlenz> |
simply by me looking... nice :-D |
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<jjb_lyceum> |
i have no idea what could have been cached |
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<jjb_lyceum> |
haha, exactly |
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<cmlenz> |
what kind of problem *was* it? |
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<jjb_lyceum> |
the deleted ticket was 420 |
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<jjb_lyceum> |
and it would say "ticket 420 does not exist" |
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<jjb_lyceum> |
i.e., it would look very similar or identical to this: http://source.ibiblio.org/trac/lyceum/ticket/420 |
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<jjb_lyceum> |
when viewing the report on open tickets for 0.31 |
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<cmlenz> |
ah... that ticket might have remained in the query cache (in your session)... I think there was a ticket about that cboos fixed, but I'm not sure |
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<jjb_lyceum> |
k |
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<jjb_lyceum> |
thanks. |
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<cmlenz> |
it's possible that some code in trac doesn't currently expect tickets being deleted... that needs to be fixed for the next release, obviously |
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<jjb_lyceum> |
right, i suspected it was something related to that. really even for spam (which is what this ticket was), i would rather just close them, and not allow future editing |
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<jjb_lyceum> |
and delete their content |
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<jjb_lyceum> |
hmmm, it's beginning to sound like deleting.... |
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<jjb_lyceum> |
i guess deleting tickets really does make the most sense in the spam case |
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<cmlenz> |
yeah, often it does |
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<coderanger_cs> |
cmlenz: If you can think of anything specific that should be done while deleting tickets, I can add it to TicketDelete |
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<cmlenz> |
yeah |
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<cmlenz> |
but I suspect there's a bug in the query module with deleted tickets |
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<jjb_lyceum> |
cmlenz: with one browser, it's working fine, but with the first browser, it's still having problems, even after i logged out, deleted all my cookies, restarted the browser, and logged in. |
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<jjb_lyceum> |
(which i thought would give me a new session) |
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<cmlenz> |
yeah, that won't help, the query is in your session, which is associated with your login name (not a cookie) |
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<cmlenz> |
you can do a different query to reset that |
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<jjb_lyceum> |
oh oh, the different query trick works here as well. duh. |
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<jjb_lyceum> |
perfect, thanks. |
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<tuxipuxi> |
coderanger_cs: hey, do you happen to know something about assigned-to as drop-down-list and/or the trac database? |
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<pacopablo> |
restrict_owner = true |
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<coderanger_cs> |
It will only display users that it knows about though |
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<coderanger_cs> |
read: users who have an entry in the settings table |
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<tuxipuxi> |
yeah exactly.. my question is if i can add the users to the database manually |
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<coderanger_cs> |
insert into session (sid, var_name, var_text) values ( uid, "name", user_name ); |
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<tuxipuxi> |
hm how do i know the user id? or should i enter a random one? |
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<coderanger_cs> |
That would be their Trac user id |
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<tuxipuxi> |
do they have one if they haven't logged in yet? |
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<coderanger_cs> |
Its what would be in the htpasswd file |
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<pacopablo> |
yes, it's whatever their login name is |
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<tuxipuxi> |
ah i see |
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<tuxipuxi> |
OTOH, i could simply tell my user to login with the different user ids, do a nonsense wiki edit and he's done, right? |
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<pacopablo> |
no |
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<pacopablo> |
they need to login, and click the "settings" link |
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<pacopablo> |
and then set their name and email |
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<coderanger_cs> |
Its kind of dumb |
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<coderanger_cs> |
I thought this was being fixed with an IDirectoryProvider extension point? |
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<pacopablo> |
s/kind of/really/ |
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<tuxipuxi> |
both sucks.. don't want to manually edit the DB of 6 projects and don't want to tell him to login at 6 projects with different user names |
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<coderanger_cs> |
Just make a script to do it ... |
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<pacopablo> |
I think the IUserDirectory deal is on trac-hacks |
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<pacopablo> |
you could use that for the time being |
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<tuxipuxi> |
i don't have the emails of the users |
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<coderanger_cs> |
tuxipuxi: Just make something up |
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<coderanger_cs> |
Or enter a space for their name |
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<tuxipuxi> |
ah ok thanks |
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<coderanger_cs> |
I'm pretty sure it just looks at all users with an entry in the session table |
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<boorad> |
pacopablo,coderanger_cs, tuxipuxi: I think all of this is handled with an iUserDirectory patch on pec #2456, and the DbAuth plugin at Trac-Hacks |
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<boorad> |
I promised to update the patch for #2456 earlier on the mailing list but haven't gotten around to it yet |
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<pacopablo> |
slacker! ;) |
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<boorad> |
yup |
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<boorad> |
hrm, seems tuxipuxi was the one looking for it (as I read a bit higher in the logs) |
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<boorad> |
if you see him tomorrow, let him know that it's what I wrote that stuff for, and I have it working at my Real Job |
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<boorad> |
gonna knock off myself - cya |
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<pacopablo> |
later |
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<coderanger_cs> |
Horray for being done with Cisco labs for the semester |
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<alect> |
morning |
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<pacopablo> |
morning |
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<coderanger_> |
What do you guys think of this: http://www.cs.rpi.edu/~kantrn/tracmon.html |
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<pacopablo> |
SoC proposal? |
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<coderanger_> |
Yahr |
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<pacopablo> |
I like it |
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<pacopablo> |
and if it's easier to configure than Nagios, I'll use it once it's done |
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<pacopablo> |
currently I'm using Argus |
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<pacopablo> |
which is a nasty piece of perl crap |
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<coderanger_> |
Its seems like most offerings in this area are fairly hackish, as they were made to meet one person's immediate needs |
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<pacopablo> |
yes, they suck |
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<pacopablo> |
nagios is cool, but a royal pain in the rear to setup |
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<coderanger_> |
Also NRPE isn't the greatest thing ever |
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<coderanger_> |
I am mostly just trying to make sure that the wording in this proposal inst too bad |
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<coderanger_> |
English ain't my strong suit :P |
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<pacopablo> |
well, if you're looking for english skills, you might be looking in the wrong place :) |
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<coderanger_> |
heh, fair enough |
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<pacopablo> |
time for me to go make some tamales :) |
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<alect> |
is it going to lever any of the existing monitoring frameworks? |
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<coderanger_> |
I am going to put compatibility in for nagios plugins |
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<alect> |
nice |
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<alect> |
mmmm trac for all! |
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<coderanger_> |
What I really want to get working is taking plugins that are installed on the front-end, and automatically push them to any other nodes that need them |
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<alect> |
which plugins? nagios or trac? |
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<coderanger_> |
Either |
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<coderanger_> |
The nagios plugins are just going to be a TracMon plugin wrapper around the nagios plugin binary |
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<alect> |
pity edgewall isn't sponsoring |
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<coderanger_> |
yeah |
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<alect> |
pity i'm not elligible |
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<alect> |
-l |
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<s0undt3ch> |
alect: working with lvm on your vserver? |
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