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May 08, 2006

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[00:06:48] <alect> you're busy matt :)
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[02:01:06] <otaku42> alect: re "the madwifi guy": yes
[02:01:23] <otaku42> alect: although madwifi isn't a "one man show", but i'm working for the project :)
[02:01:31] <alect> i like the latency in that response ;)
[02:02:03] <alect> i jumped in #madwifi yesterday to ask a couple of questions
[02:02:11] <alect> seems i need a non-sucky antenna
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[02:30:29] <Narada> hi; how can i get the sql query for an existing report?
[02:32:18] <alect> permissions
[02:32:36] <otaku42> alect: well, the latency is because /me not being online during weekends usually (but my irssi stays online, marked away)
[02:34:04] <Narada> it's okay i got it
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[02:52:36] <Narada> how can i control the email address that trac sends notification emails to?!
[03:08:49] <alect> @ini
[03:08:49] <evil_twin> alect: "ini" is See http://projects.edgewall.com/trac/wiki/TracIni for details on the Trac configuration file.
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[03:16:10] <Narada> you gotta love this: Incorporate alien technology
[03:16:19] <Narada> that's on the roadmap for trac 2.0
[03:16:27] <Narada> lol
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[03:29:46] <HandyAndE> Narada: dude, is that you?
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[03:35:28] <Narada> HandyAndE: Yep!
[03:40:35] <HandyAndE> Narada: cool, did not realise you idled here too
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[03:42:27] <Narada> HandyAndE: yeah i'm in most things related to LAMP; #svn as well
[03:42:58] <Narada> just setting up another instance of trac for one of our projects
[03:43:54] <HandyAndE> cool
[03:44:01] <HandyAndE> checked dev.rectang.com recently? :)
[03:44:13] <Narada> unfortunately there don't seem to any dependencies in trac
[03:44:22] <Narada> no i haven't; doing now
[03:45:04] <Narada> nice you integrated it all
[03:45:27] <Narada> so did you do this is a pseudo fashion or for real?
[03:45:32] <Narada> s/is/in/
[03:45:42] <Narada> is it just a wiki enclosing all other tracs?
[03:46:10] <HandyAndE> did what in a psudo fasion?
[03:46:24] <Narada> multiple projects in one trac (seemingly)
[03:46:29] <HandyAndE> ah, I see
[03:46:40] <HandyAndE> well - it is seperate tracs
[03:46:46] <HandyAndE> with some php stitching them together
[03:46:53] <HandyAndE> the menu is custom templates
[03:47:08] <Narada> ah right cunning ... very cunning
[03:47:24] <HandyAndE> hehe
[03:47:29] <HandyAndE> need to actually do it better
[03:47:31] <HandyAndE> make it a val;i
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[03:47:39] <HandyAndE> make it a valid trac plugin I think
[03:47:41] <HandyAndE> for no w
[03:47:43] <HandyAndE> aop
[03:47:44] <HandyAndE> ops
[03:48:00] <HandyAndE> for now all I have released to trac is "TracDown"
[03:48:50] <Narada> i see
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[05:35:34] <ktk> hi all
[05:37:45] <HandyAndE> hey
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[07:18:53] <honda_S2000> anyone can help on the code of ticket box macro??
[07:19:35] <honda_S2000> i want to make it static instead of having all that possibilities i want to just call and it list a certain report
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[07:29:43] <s0undt3ch> matt_good: still arround?
[07:31:12] <s0undt3ch> matt_good: about that bug I can only check in a day or two, Im currently switching my server into a vserver
[07:31:27] <s0undt3ch> matt_good: I'll close it if it's fixed, ok?
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[07:34:57] <emacsen> How do I make that sort of sidebar thing that's on many trac pages?
[07:35:29] <emacsen> Usually there's a table of contents or a sitemap or something like that on it.
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[07:40:04] <HandyAndE> emacsen: use the [[TOC]] Macro?
[07:40:46] <emacsen> HandyAnDE, except I don't want a TOC based on my page
[07:40:56] <emacsen> I want one based on what I think should be there
[07:41:06] <HandyAndE> emacsen: then use the menu plugin
[07:41:10] <HandyAndE> hmm, where was it...
[07:41:38] <emacsen> oh is that the menu? a lot of the problem I'm having is that I don't know what trac calls various things. I don't see labels in the documentation
[07:41:52] <emacsen> http://projects.edgewall.com/trac/wiki/WikiFormatting
[07:41:56] <emacsen> eg there- the orange thing :)
[07:42:05] <emacsen> orange/tan box
[07:42:15] <HandyAndE> emacsen: http://trac-hacks.org/wiki/TracNav
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[07:43:33] <emacsen> cool, thx
[07:44:15] <HandyAndE> np
[07:44:22] <emacsen> HandyAndE, how about this... I'm trying to understand where I customize the Version and Component etc. parts of the bug tracking
[07:44:32] <emacsen> I'm sure that's in the docs, but the docs aren't very clear
[07:44:33] <HandyAndE> trac-admin (cmd-line)
[07:44:38] <emacsen> Oh!
[07:46:35] <honda_S2000> anyone knows how to do a query to database in python and put it to an array so it can populate a select box in cs?
[07:47:21] <emacsen> honda: that depends on a number of things, like which database? Straight SQL or ORM, etc?
[07:47:35] <emacsen> on you meant the trac db :)
[07:47:40] <emacsen> erm "oh"
[07:49:49] <honda_S2000> sqlite
[07:49:59] <honda_S2000> trac db
[07:50:18] <emacsen> honda: I'd use whatever facility trac does, ie use it's abstraction, don't query it directly
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[07:50:33] <honda_S2000> explain better please
[07:50:36] <emacsen> Now how to do that- no idea. I'm a newbie
[07:51:20] <honda_S2000> ok
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[07:57:11] <emacsen> honda: Oh you want a new report?
[07:57:17] <honda_S2000> no
[07:57:22] <honda_S2000> nothinfg like that
[07:57:35] <honda_S2000> erm "nothing"
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[10:58:20] <evilbulgarian> hi, where do i put images and extra stuff that i want to show up under a trac project? im trying to link to an image from the footer?
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[11:02:43] <cmlenz> evilbulgarian: running tracd?
[11:03:23] <evilbulgarian> cmlenz: not sure just apache2 + trac
[11:03:50] <cmlenz> then you can just put your files anywhere on your server so that you can access them via some URL, and link to that URL
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[11:04:35] <evilbulgarian> cmlenz: well i tried that but i have / as my pythonhandler
[11:04:49] <evilbulgarian> cmlenz: "trac.web.modpython_frontend"
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[11:05:04] <cmlenz> try "SetHandler None" on the path that shouldn't be handled by mod_python
[11:05:42] <evilbulgarian> ok thanks so something like /img/ and have for that SetHandler None
[11:06:58] <cmlenz> right
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[11:17:46] <evilbulgarian> cmlenz: ok thanks alot !
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[11:41:55] <bwmcadams> i've got business users who want a series of 'additional' optiosn at the bottom of query/reports for getting out reports ... namely excel and pdf
[11:42:35] <bwmcadams> if I spend the time turning the 'additional report formats' code in ticket.reports and ticket.query to extension points, is it something that actually has value (e.g. contributable back to the project)?
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[11:54:14] <BaconTastesGood> is there a way to run Trac without svn?
[11:54:19] <bwmcadams> yes.
[11:54:19] <BaconTastesGood> i.e. just as a wiki/issue tracker?
[11:54:29] <bwmcadams> I use it for that in a few installs
[11:54:37] <BaconTastesGood> what do I need to change (this is on Gentoo)?
[11:54:40] <bwmcadams> let me pull up the right info ... you needa add a 'disable' bit
[11:54:44] <bwmcadams> gimme 2 minutes
[11:54:48] <BaconTastesGood> k, thx
[11:56:45] <bwmcadams> to your trac.ini
[11:56:48] <bwmcadams> add the following block:
[11:56:49] <bwmcadams> [components]
[11:56:49] <bwmcadams> trac.versioncontrol.* = disabled
[11:56:57] <bwmcadams> that will fully disable the versioncontrol stuff like browser
[11:57:20] <bwmcadams> you'll still need to specify a svn repos when you setup your env, just set it to /dev/null or something and ignore the stacktrace at the end of the setup ... I have 3 installs working like this
[11:57:40] <BaconTastesGood> ah, okay, that's what I needed
[11:58:03] <BaconTastesGood> I specified /var/svn/test for lack of a better place and it yacked
[11:58:40] <bwmcadams> ya - it yacks but it does svn last
[11:58:43] <bwmcadams> so the rest of the system is setup ok
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[12:00:07] <bwmcadams> and bacon does taste good... but pork roll tastes better!
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[12:07:30] <phil___> hi! I have naive question: whe creating a new environment, trac-amin populate the wiki. Is there a wai to avoid this or at least to remove all these pages at once ?
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[12:09:36] <BaconTastesGood> yay, it's running!
[12:09:46] <BaconTastesGood> how far behind the main trunk does the Gentoo portage lag?
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[12:39:49] <phil___> is there a way to know why syntax highlighting does not work in wiki ? (enscript is installed)
[12:41:35] <cboos> phil___: what does your log say about that?
[12:41:50] <phil___> which log ?
[12:42:59] <cboos> trac's log
[12:43:18] <cboos> http://projects.edgewall.com/trac/wiki/TracLogging
[12:45:33] <phil___> ok, that answers my question. I needed to know about trac logs. Thanks!
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[12:46:36] <Bart`> hi
[12:46:52] <Bart`> is security safe with trac ?
[12:46:56] <Bart`> and eventually svn
[12:47:17] <the_plague> My guess is that it's bloody unlikely, but has there been talk of splitting the Trac plugin framework off into its own framework?
[12:47:19] <Bart`> I decided tu put my projects (even commercial ones) on my public trunk server (https tho)
[12:47:39] <bwmcadams> bart: trac has svn read only
[12:47:42] <Bart`> So I was wondering if this is safe enough :-)
[12:47:57] <bwmcadams> make sure if you use trac you use .95 ... there was an injection attack reported a day or so ago on the old versions
[12:47:58] <Bart`> bwmcadams: uh, teah, that's a problem :-)
[12:48:09] <the_plague> If I had to ask these questions, I would not be confident in my ability to properly secure the environment.
[12:48:09] <Bart`> I use trunk
[12:48:13] <BaconTastesGood> ugh, I'm using the portage system
[12:48:15] <BaconTastesGood> in Gentoo
[12:48:18] <bwmcadams> plenty of projects use trac safely
[12:48:34] <bwmcadams> bacontastesgood: so, after 5 weeks of compiling your os by hand, you're finally ready to start over and install fedora? :)
[12:48:37] <Bart`> the_plague: the problem is I'm not a trac specialist
[12:48:44] <BaconTastesGood> which is 0.92 I think -- anyone know how often it's updated?
[12:49:01] <bwmcadams> uhm - bacon: It depends on who is maintaining that port...but .92 is old
[12:49:02] <BaconTastesGood> Oh, Gentoo is positively beautiful, I've seen much worse
[12:49:03] <Bart`> And I don't want people to steal my code for example
[12:49:12] <bwmcadams> and has some recently reported flaws
[12:49:23] <BaconTastesGood> *sigh*
[12:49:28] <Bart`> (opensource integretists please quiet)
[12:49:28] <the_plague> That presumes you have code people would even want to steal.
[12:49:29] <BaconTastesGood> wonder if I'm better just building from source then
[12:49:35] <bwmcadams> btg: Oh, I loved gentoo when i used it but the whole 'compile everything yourself' kind of annoyed me.... I think the portage system is wonderful though.
[12:49:36] <BaconTastesGood> the_plague++
[12:49:42] <bwmcadams> btg: installing from source is so easy its funny
[12:49:51] <BaconTastesGood> well, let me give that a shot
[12:49:52] <Bart`> the_plague: that could be the case, perhaps it is not, perhaps it could
[12:50:03] <bwmcadams> btg: download latest trac (0.9.5)
[12:50:04] <bwmcadams> untar
[12:50:11] <the_plague> It probably isn't the case.
[12:50:13] <bwmcadams> run python setup.py install as a superuser... and done-ish
[12:50:19] <Bart`> This is a shareware code I don't want to publish
[12:50:22] <bwmcadams> then just follow the docs for configuring it for webserver (I recommend mod_python)
[12:50:33] <bwmcadams> bart: Then I would disable the SVN browser for those projects
[12:50:51] <bwmcadams> just turn the whole version control module off and use it for ticketing only
[12:50:54] <Bart`> bwmcadams: ok, that means right management in trac is quite safe
[12:51:10] <BaconTastesGood> $ emerge -C trac
[12:51:11] <BaconTastesGood> wheee
[12:51:11] <Bart`> I disabled everything but ticketting for anonymous
[12:51:21] <Bart`> ah
[12:51:24] <bwmcadams> that'll work
[12:51:25] <Bart`> ok, at the module level
[12:51:28] <bwmcadams> the perms code is pretty good
[12:51:38] <bwmcadams> i'd install the webadmin module too for easier permissions management
[12:51:42] <Bart`> I did
[12:51:45] <the_plague> Last I checked, the permissions code was bloody awful.
[12:52:05] <bwmcadams> tp: I mean more if you set it, it should keep things at what you want them
[12:52:16] <bwmcadams> but I don't use it public facing so
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[12:54:00] <Bart`> mmm I granted TICKET_VIEW to anonymous
[12:54:18] <Bart`> but I do not see "View tickets" button
[12:55:30] <Bart`> oh, view tickets is a report ?
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[12:55:56] <bwmcadams> yes.
[12:56:03] <bwmcadams> ticket_view is viewing idnividual tickets
[12:56:09] <Bart`> ok, working fine now
[12:56:21] <Bart`> too bad I wanted to keep code browsing view for me :-p
[12:56:36] <Bart`> I could handle that in apache conf tho
[12:56:50] <bwmcadams> eh, i'd make surei t's set in trac perms
[12:57:21] <Bart`> I did disable almost everything for anon
[12:57:32] <BaconTastesGood> so to manually install I have to manually install Clearsilver, etc.
[12:58:05] <the_plague> You could simply deny repository access to anonymous users.
[12:58:22] <bwmcadams> btg : ja. clearsilver isn't part of the distro anymore
[12:58:54] <bwmcadams> you'll also need a python driver for your db
[12:59:06] <bwmcadams> either pgsql or mysql (or sqlite if you're masochistic)
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[12:59:24] <eh> ah! a Trac channel! great!
[12:59:44] <eh> my Trac instance has just been spammed. Can I eridicate a Trac ticket?
[12:59:49] <bwmcadams> what's trac? We're a bugzilla channel.
[12:59:58] <bwmcadams> yes... there's a plugin for it
[13:00:07] <bwmcadams> which hooks into the webadmin module
[13:00:53] <bwmcadams> http://trac-hacks.org/wiki/TicketDeletePlugin
[13:01:05] <bwmcadams> you'll want to install the linked webadmin plugin too ...
[13:01:10] <bwmcadams> (Which is extremely worth it anyhow)
[13:01:45] <eh> is it also available as a debian package?
[13:01:51] <bwmcadams> don't think so
[13:01:54] <bwmcadams> but it's available as an egg
[13:01:56] <eh> hmm. too bad.
[13:02:00] <eh> ok.
[13:02:02] <bwmcadams> you should be able to turn setuptools into a deb
[13:02:02] <bwmcadams> hold on
[13:02:24] <bwmcadams> hmm no - bdist only builds rpms i think
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[13:02:36] <bwmcadams> there's probably a script out there somewhere to turn eggs into .debs though
[13:03:36] <bwmcadams> rumor has it that the debian version of setuptools has a bdist_deb command...
[13:04:26] <bwmcadams> <a href="http://lists.debian.org/debian-python/2004/10/msg00017.html">A bdist_deb command for distutils</a>
[13:05:47] <eh> nice. thanks. talking the admin into installing it now.
[13:06:11] <bwmcadams> for the most part, the easiest way is to drop the .egg into your trac instance's 'plugins' dir
[13:06:20] <bwmcadams> instead of installing it with python but whatever is easiest for you
[13:06:31] <bwmcadams> and like i said to use the delete plugin you need webadmin also
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[13:10:03] <BaconTastesGood> yay, installing all from scratch seemed to work
[13:10:41] <BaconTastesGood> so every time I need to create a user, I have to update an .htdigest file instead of using a Web interface for admin?
[13:12:16] <bwmcadams> there are some plugins on trac-hacks that will do user management
[13:12:25] <bwmcadams> i'm working on a frontend plugin now ... we use mod_auth_pgsql
[13:12:32] <bwmcadams> which maks it a bit easier
[13:25:28] <bwmcadams> i've got a few pieces of code including some stuff for easier managing users that i'll be tossing on trac-hacks in the next week or so
[13:26:48] <eh> does the webadmin interface for 0.9.3 work with 0.9.4?
[13:26:58] * eh 's admin wants to know
[13:27:15] <the_plague> Tell him to stop being a n00b and to try it and find out.
[13:27:36] <eh> the_plague: not on a production server.
[13:27:46] <the_plague> Then the answer is no.
[13:28:05] <the_plague> Use the one for 0.9.4.
[13:28:11] <the_plague> Unless there isn't one for 0.9.4.
[13:28:24] <the_plague> In which case use the one for 0.9.3.
[13:28:24] <bwmcadams> the_plague: but someone might h4x0r him with 3GG5
[13:28:36] <the_plague> 3GG5! Oh noes!
[13:28:45] <bwmcadams> OMFGBBZLOLZ
[13:29:12] <bwmcadams> there in fact is not one for .94
[13:29:19] <bwmcadams> i'm useint the .93 version on my sites
[13:29:20] <bwmcadams> it works fine
[13:29:29] <the_plague> It's not going to cause trac to fall over and catch fire.
[13:29:39] <bwmcadams> http://projects.edgewall.com/trac/wiki/WebAdmin
[13:30:27] <the_plague> and unless you have an application deployed that uses WebAdmin, web admin won't touch any part of your "production server".
[13:31:18] <eh> yea, found it there. he hasn't been able to get it to work yet, but if it works for you, then it should end up working for him too. Thanks, it's valuable information to know it works for others.
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[13:32:39] <bwmcadams> i'm using it on 4 production trac installs
[13:32:41] <bwmcadams> so no probs here
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[13:52:10] <evilbulgarian> hi, im having a problem where trac -> browse source is displaying the whole file system including conf, db, hooks etc...
[13:52:48] <eh> bwmcadams: thanks! The spam is gone!
[13:52:52] <bwmcadams> eh: NP
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[15:29:58] <galis> was wondering, when would I ever need "PythonOption TracUriRoot ..." in apache config?
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[16:13:30] <megalO-> what are the most useful/most popular hacks?
[16:16:01] <the_plague> It depends upon what you want to do, other than rice.
[16:23:41] * s0undt3ch pokes alect
[16:31:39] <megalO-> http://trac-hacks.org/wiki/AuthzWebadminPlugin
[16:31:42] <megalO-> that one good?
[16:35:46] <the_plague> I wrote it.
[16:35:51] <the_plague> I would certainly hope so.
[16:41:52] <megalO-> haha
[16:42:10] <megalO-> i know who to come to for help then
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[17:02:08] <galis> humm... is there some wa to delete an attachment , I probably need to do it at the filesystem and web interface
[17:06:54] <galis> nevermind ... WIKI_DELETE Delete wiki pages and attachments
[17:10:15] <alect> hi
[17:10:23] <alect> mmm rice
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[17:18:36] <s0undt3ch> alect: he he he, do you run spamassassing on your vserver?
[17:18:53] <alect> sure do
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