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May 14, 2006

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[00:04:13] <contingencyplan> howdy - anybody home who can help me a bit with installing trac?
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[05:17:34] <tuxipuxi> how does edgewall embed the trac project into projects.edgewall.com?
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[06:58:17] <__Oum> hi
[06:58:39] <__Oum> anybody here ever worked with TracAccountManager ?
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[08:39:08] <_gpg_> hi every one
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[13:01:29] <Pistos> Can tickets be deleted?
[13:01:39] <Pistos> I just got hit my a spam[bot|er].
[13:01:47] <Pistos> (besides manually in the DB)
[13:01:56] <coderanger_> What version are you running
[13:02:03] <Pistos> 0.9.3 it looks like.
[13:02:11] <coderanger_> Get TicketDelete form trac-hacks
[13:02:19] <Pistos> Hmkay.
[13:02:33] <coderanger_> You will also need WebAdmin installed
[13:02:37] <Pistos> Meh...
[13:02:41] * Pistos just deletes from DB...
[13:02:43] <Pistos> :)
[13:02:59] <coderanger_> Make sure you also delete it from all ancillary tables
[13:03:15] <Pistos> Hm
[13:03:19] <coderanger_> ticket_change, attachment, etc
[13:03:20] <Pistos> I'll look at the TicketDelete code.
[13:03:52] <coderanger_> good luck ;-)
[13:04:08] <Pistos> Thanks. :)
[13:05:01] <Pistos> Lawdamursy... all this just to delete a ticket?
[13:05:05] * Pistos ponders life, and the universe.
[13:05:26] <coderanger_> Yeah, the initial design of the ticket system didnt take into account deletions
[13:05:30] * Pistos considers upgrading to 0.9.5 and trying again to install WebAdmin.
[13:06:07] <coderanger_> A lot of the code in TicketDelete is for change deletion though, which you dont need
[13:07:23] <coderanger_> it should be enough to remove its attachments via the web ui
[13:07:41] <coderanger_> then remove all changes with that ID, and then remove that ticket
[13:07:45] <Pistos> Okay, so... where do I start? Try to install WebAdmin first?
[13:08:05] <Pistos> Here's the trouble ticket: http://rome.purepistos.net/issues/diakonos/ticket/75
[13:08:12] <Pistos> I don't think its claws have reached anywhere else but itself...
[13:10:25] <coderanger_> looks like it doesnt have any changes
[13:10:40] <coderanger_> so DELETE FROM ticket WHERE id=75; should do it
[13:11:09] <Pistos> Okay, that's good news.
[13:11:11] <Pistos> I'll just do that.
[13:11:56] <Pistos> Whee, that did it. Thanks. :)
[13:12:50] <coderanger_> Your wiki also got hit by a spambot
[13:14:33] <Pistos> Oh yeah?
[13:14:33] * Pistos looks.
[13:14:42] <Pistos> Where?
[13:15:40] <coderanger_> http://rome.purepistos.net/issues/diakonos/timeline?from=05%2F14%2F06&daysback=60&wiki=on&update=Update
[13:16:41] <Pistos> coderanger: Hm, thanks.
[13:17:56] <Pistos> I don't seem to see any actual spam text, though...
[13:18:04] <Pistos> And I'm not even using the Wiki part of Trac anyway...
[13:18:21] <coderanger_> Just delete the 2nd version of each of those pages
[13:19:09] <Pistos> I see... it seems to be hidden material...
[13:19:13] <Pistos> If I view the diff, I can see it...
[13:19:20] <coderanger_> Looks like a bug in firefox
[13:19:21] <Pistos> Can't I just disable the wiki?
[13:20:00] <coderanger_> You can remove wiki perms from anonymous, yes
[13:20:09] <coderanger_> but its a good idea to remove the spam ;-)
[13:20:18] <Pistos> I'm just gonna take out the whole wiki,
[13:20:21] <Pistos> I'm not even using it...
[13:20:57] <coderanger_> You can't remove it
[13:21:13] <Pistos> Fun.
[13:21:15] <coderanger_> At least not without breaking other things
[13:21:19] <coderanger_> like all the help links
[13:21:24] * Pistos ponders life.
[13:21:29] <Pistos> k, let's see about those perms...
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[13:34:49] <rbd> hi guys, anyone have a page discussing adopting trac for use with agile methodologies (scrum/xp) and QA...I see the NewWorkflow wiki pages, but I was wondering if this data was all collected at a certain point with a agile focus
[13:35:11] <Pistos> coderanger: Thanks for help.
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[13:35:57] <coderanger_> rbd: What specifically are you looking for?
[13:37:43] <rbd> coderanger: burndown graph, time estimates in tickets (which allow us to gather velocity figures), and the modified workflow supporting QA...noting very advanced
[13:38:00] <rbd> a project http://goedel.uiah.fi/projects/calibrate/wiki has that burndown graph...not sure where they got it from though
[13:38:33] <coderanger_> For time estimates, you can look at the time-tracking patches, and for the new workflow, it just means you will have to use alec's workflow branch
[13:39:35] <coderanger_> As for the graph, I would email to group and see if they would be willing to release that plugin, as I don't recognize it
[13:41:20] <coderanger_> I dont know if the time-tracking patches will work well with trunk (which the workflow branch is based off of)
[13:41:30] <coderanger_> So it may require some monkeying
[13:42:45] <rbd> okay, found the time tracking patches...they are for 0.9.4 so from what you're saying it may require some porting
[13:43:34] <coderanger_> yes, there have been a lot of changes between 0.9.x and 0.10 (trunk)
[13:45:45] <rbd> okay, I think the simple default workflow should work for us (we share QA and release management)...so in that case I can go with the time tracking patches, then hopefully get the guys with the burndown graph to release it to the world
[13:46:28] <rbd> great project btw...working on training a development team in india with its use
[13:47:13] <coderanger_> If they need a place to post it, you can point them at trac-hacks
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[13:51:31] <rbd> coderanger: will do, thank you for your help
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[16:15:58] <cornet> hey, trying to get trac working with apache1 on debian. have done own build of trac installed into /usr/local and procject lives in /srv/www/trac/cowshop .. using the standalone webserver works fine, apache keeps giving me a directory listing. apache config is here: http://pastebin.com/717767
[16:17:00] <cornet> Apache/1.3.33 (Debian GNU/Linux) mod_python/2.7.10 Python/2.3.4 <-- from apache logs
[16:17:06] <cornet> so mod_python def working
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[17:56:29] <athomas> hi
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[20:02:15] <grim> anyone have any issues with sourceforge2trac.py with 0.9.5?
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[20:54:39] <bradleym> hello
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[21:56:15] <coderanger> If I have a plugin that needs some kind of basic templating system (for an email), how hard is it to use CS from within a plugin?
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[22:07:27] <athomas> not very
[22:08:20] <athomas> check out web.hdf.HDFWrapper.render()
[22:08:51] <athomas> in fact the notification system does that very thing iirc
[22:17:38] <coderanger> Nifty
[22:22:45] <coderanger> athomas: As you generally have sane opinions, what do you think of this concept? Create a plugin called TracCron, that lets other plugins register timed events in a similar format to cron, though at a 1 second resolution instead of 1 minute.
[22:23:30] <athomas> not a bad idea. i could optionally use that with reposearch
[22:24:20] <coderanger> The problem is that you can only trigger checks on a page view, so if you want something like real cron, you need to be reloading a page continually, either via real cron or some other means
[22:25:38] <athomas> what use case are you thinking of for it?
[22:26:09] <coderanger> I have this logging plugin for work, and it needs to send a summary email to my boss once a week.
[22:26:36] <coderanger> It would be nice to have all the scheduling of that configurable from within Trac (i.e. via WebAdmin)
[22:27:15] <athomas> ah
[22:28:07] <athomas> might be overkill though
[22:28:26] <coderanger> Yeah, I may just stick with my current cron setup
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[22:58:50] <coderanger> Looking at the HDFWrapper code. HDFWrapper.set_value is a very odd function
[23:00:10] <athomas> why's that?
[23:00:53] <coderanger> The inner function isn't really needed
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[23:01:47] <coderanger> set_value could just call itself recusively
[23:04:03] <athomas> looks like it, true
[23:05:02] <coderanger> Not bad per se, just non-standard
[23:06:09] <coderanger> Though it would affect pysco acceleration, since it can't handle inner functions
[23:06:46] <athomas> psyco has a negligible effect on trac apparently
[23:07:19] <coderanger> Yeah, most of the time issues with Trac are in IO and Sqlite