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May 15, 2006

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[00:06:13] <luks_> athomas: are you around?
[00:06:23] <athomas> i can't reveal that information
[00:06:39] <luks_> can you please delete this http://trac-hacks.org/wiki/TracBzrPlugin
[00:06:47] <luks_> i'm really sorry for creating a dupe :(
[00:07:06] <athomas> okay...what's the dupe?
[00:07:09] <athomas> (no browser atm)
[00:07:14] <athomas> i'll do it later tonight
[00:07:20] <luks_> http://trac-hacks.org/wiki/BzrPlugin
[00:07:35] <athomas> aha
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[00:17:54] <coderanger> Taken care of
[00:19:40] <luks_> thanks
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[05:17:59] <LarstiQ> moin
[05:25:19] <LarstiQ> are there dev debs available, or should I just checkout from svn if I want something 0.10ish soon?
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[06:29:05] <__oum> hmm
[06:29:10] <__oum> i know this is probably not a trac specific thing
[06:29:28] <__oum> but.. anybody got a quick way to explain how to solve "Permission denied: '/root/.python-eggs"
[06:29:32] <__oum> i run via mod_python
[06:29:34] <bwmcadams> ya
[06:29:46] <bwmcadams> what OS?
[06:29:48] <bwmcadams> linux?
[06:29:50] <__oum> yeah
[06:29:59] <__oum> i assume its a setting somewhere
[06:30:01] <__oum> no clue where though
[06:30:04] <bwmcadams> to start with, i found that if you start apache via apachectl it tries to put it in root
[06:30:10] <__oum> odd
[06:30:11] <bwmcadams> if you start it via service httpd start it puts it in /var/www/
[06:30:15] <bwmcadams> there's a setting somewhere - lemme see
[06:30:25] <__oum> maybe mod_python takes the running user
[06:30:25] <__oum> ?
[06:30:45] <bwmcadams> http://projects.edgewall.com/trac/wiki/TracPlugins
[06:30:53] <bwmcadams> scroll down, there's a section ttitled "Setting up the Plugin Cache"
[06:33:21] <__oum> k
[06:33:22] <__oum> thanks
[06:33:24] <__oum> placed it in /tmp
[06:33:25] <__oum> works now
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[06:40:29] <__oum> another q
[06:40:39] <__oum> i use Gantt charts plugins
[06:41:10] <__oum> is it possible to hide it from the menu (use permissions to show/hide it) ?
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[07:26:46] <mpathy> Hi.. I want to setup my trac via fastcgi but in my cgi-bin directory I only found trac.cgi ?! Where is the trac.fcgi?
[07:31:47] <bwmcadams> mpathy: I just ran a locate trac.fcgi and i found mine in my cgi bin
[07:31:52] <bwmcadams> depends on how you build it i think
[07:32:31] <mpathy> bwmcadams: its the debian stable package
[07:33:04] <bwmcadams> well, that's your problem...you're using debian ;)
[07:33:12] <bwmcadams> does the debian package include fcgi?
[07:33:28] <bwmcadams> i believe i'm using a fedora package
[07:33:33] <bwmcadams> and it included it
[07:34:20] <mpathy> bwmcadams: Is it possible to copy ONLY the trac.fcgi from the sources into my cgi dir
[07:35:02] <bwmcadams> not sure.. i would presume so
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[08:11:10] <runa> hey :)
[08:11:46] <runa> how do I do to delete a page?
[08:20:15] <tuxipuxi> log in as a user with the correct privileges and click "delete this page2
[08:20:46] <runa> oh. and how do I give my user those privs?
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[08:21:17] <tuxipuxi> with trac-admin/WebAdmin
[08:21:30] <runa> tnx
[08:22:43] <tuxipuxi> yw
[08:24:11] <mpathy> the added trac.fcgi doesnt work - it seems I have to take a trac from the trac website..
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[09:13:55] <sam`> hi there
[09:14:00] <sam`> can a ticket be deleted ?
[09:14:16] <sam`> i'm under a kinda massive spam attack on trac tickets here
[09:14:20] <sam`> pretty annoying, actually
[09:14:22] <sam`> http://ssl.bulix.org/projects/zwe/report/2
[09:15:30] <pacopablo> sam`: grab the TicketDelete plugin on trac-hacks.org
[09:15:34] <sam`> ok
[09:15:41] <sam`> does it removes the entries from the timeline ?
[09:15:52] <pacopablo> don't know
[09:33:34] <coderanger_> Ye
[09:33:38] <coderanger_> er, yes
[09:38:43] <sam`> ticketdelete fails to load
[09:39:08] <sam`> http://code.bulix.org/4535
[09:39:18] <sam`> any idea what may be going wrong here ?
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[09:40:47] <pacopablo> sam`: you need the webadmin plugin too
[09:41:15] <pacopablo> and if you have it and are using 0.9.x, then it means you need to install it globally, ie, python setup.py install
[09:43:08] <sam`> it is installed -and working- globally
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[09:48:02] <pacopablo> ImportError: No module named webadmin.web_ui
[09:48:16] <pacopablo> it's not getting loaded before ticketdelete
[09:48:23] <pacopablo> is ticketdelete installed globally?
[09:48:23] <coderanger_> Is ticketdelete installed locally?
[09:48:34] <pacopablo> oooh, spooky
[09:49:16] <sam`> it's installed globally
[09:49:25] <pacopablo> install it locally
[09:49:38] <pacopablo> that will make sure that webadmin gets loaded first
[09:49:41] <sam`> let's try
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[09:51:53] <sam`> i have a new entry in the webadmin menu 'Delete Changes'
[09:52:06] <sam`> but i get an error
[09:52:08] <sam`> Unknown Admin Page
[09:53:43] <sam`> hum
[09:53:44] <sam`> actually
[09:53:45] <sam`> it's random
[09:54:02] <sam`> reloading a couple of times makes it work
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[09:55:20] <sam`> works every time now
[09:55:22] <sam`> weirdo.
[09:55:49] <sam`> hum, failed again
[09:57:37] <pacopablo> any unicode experts out there?
[10:06:46] <sam`> damn, i getting tired of all these Internal Server Errors
[10:06:58] <sam`> anyone experienced such things with trac + mod_fcgid ?
[10:07:10] <sam`> may it come from an oldish trac env
[10:07:10] <sam`> ?
[10:16:35] <pacopablo> I don't use fastcgi, sorry
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[10:24:49] <coderanger_> sam`: It is usually because you didn't HUP apache after changing something (at least with mod_python)
[10:27:14] <sam`> coderanger_: i did
[10:27:31] <idnar> try stop followed by start
[10:27:48] <idnar> oh wait, fcgi
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[10:49:27] <coderanger_> hmm, dunno then
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[12:07:53] <pacopablo> hmm, none of the unicode gurus are around
[12:08:25] <pacopablo> blog is choking on unicode characters in 0.9.x
[12:08:41] <pacopablo> but it's choking in the formatter
[12:08:56] <pacopablo> I think it's because I'm passing a unicode string that is encoded in UTF8
[12:11:11] * pacopablo curses unicode!
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[12:36:01] <pacopablo> coderanger_: if someone posts a comment to a ticket using their email address, they don't get future updates to said ticket unless they add themselves to the CC, right?
[12:36:16] <coderanger_> I think so
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[12:49:09] <soloturn> is there a possibility to operate trac in multilinugal mode?
[12:49:39] <bwmcadams> no, it only works in python
[12:49:46] <bwmcadams> :-D
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[13:01:28] <coderanger_> soloturn: Do you mean have users write in multiple langs?
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[13:08:49] <soloturn> somehow tag wiki pages with a language, yes.
[13:10:39] <soloturn> something like the polyglot plugin for wordpress: http://fredfred.net/skriker/index.php/polyglot. a little flag on top indicates that this page exists also in another language.
[13:11:39] <coderanger_> Hmm, not as of now, but I could see a plugin doing that
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[14:50:29] <sam`> hi
[14:50:32] <sam`> anybody here?
[14:50:46] * LarstiQ hides behind the couch
[14:51:07] <sam`> ok, maybe you can help, even hidden behind a couch
[14:51:14] <sam`> (did you find my sock, btw?)
[14:51:26] <sam`> let 2 trac envs A and B
[14:51:36] <sam`> both have the webadmin plugin working, installed globally
[14:51:37] <LarstiQ> I see two socks here, but they're not yours, sorry.
[14:51:44] <sam`> both have the ticketdelete plugin installed locally
[14:51:49] <sam`> it works on env A, but not on env B
[14:51:59] * LarstiQ raises eyebrows
[14:52:03] <pacopablo> env B sucks
[14:52:18] <misc> there is a bug in env A
[14:52:25] <pacopablo> env B told the ticket delete plugin to shove it, and so the ticketdelete plugin ran away
[14:52:37] <pacopablo> @faq logging
[14:52:37] <evil_twin> pacopablo: "logging" is http://projects.edgewall.com/trac/wiki/TracLogging <-- Enable debug logging to file, ensure your environments log/ directory is writeable by your web server user, check for errors.
[14:52:50] <sam`> i enabled the debug
[14:52:53] <sam`> they both outputs the same error
[14:52:57] <pacopablo> enable logging, restart server and make sure that the plugin is loading on env B
[14:52:58] <sam`> it works in A, but not in B
[14:53:09] <pacopablo> well, what's the error?
[14:53:24] <sam`> http://code.bulix.org/4535
[14:53:44] <misc> some old cache file ?
[14:53:55] <misc> check PYTHON_EGG_DIR
[14:54:14] <pacopablo> well, it can't find the webadmin plugin :)
[14:54:39] <pacopablo> sam`: in the log, do you see the webadmin plugin loading before the ticketdelete plugin?
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[14:55:00] <sam`> it seems to be loaded twice
[14:55:13] <sam`> but on both "loading shots", the ticketdelete wants to load before the webadmin
[14:55:55] <pacopablo> so, the ticket delete plugin is installed locally (in the trac environment's plugins dir) and webadmin is installed globally?
[14:56:02] <sam`> yes
[14:56:09] <sam`> you told me to do that a few hours earlier
[14:56:12] <sam`> it worked on env A
[14:56:14] <sam`> but not in env B
[14:56:19] <pacopablo> do you also have the ticketdelete plugin installed globally?
[14:56:22] <sam`> misc: PYTHON_EGG_DIR is not set for both envs
[14:56:25] <sam`> pacopablo: no
[14:56:43] <pacopablo> sam`: should be PYTHON_EGG_CACHE
[14:56:47] <pacopablo> is that set?
[14:56:51] <sam`> no
[14:57:01] <pacopablo> set it
[14:57:11] <pacopablo> to someplate writable by the web server
[15:00:08] <sam`> hum, now it does not work in both envs
[15:00:16] <sam`> damn in, trac is so ... random.
[15:00:21] <sam`> i'm getting 500 ISE randomly too
[15:00:23] <sam`> that sucks
[15:02:13] <pacopablo> you using apache?
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[15:02:27] <sam`> yes
[15:02:47] <pacopablo> then there should be some indication of the reason for the 500 in your error log
[15:03:13] <sam`> no
[15:03:20] <pacopablo> no?
[15:03:30] <sam`> mod_fcgid just says 'fuck you, i exited with an internal error'
[15:03:40] <pacopablo> wow, that's special
[15:03:49] <pacopablo> can you use mod_python?
[15:04:42] <sam`> no, mod_python makes apache2 use all the cpu, ram and swap
[15:04:43] <sam`> randomly, too
[15:04:52] <sam`> causing the box's load to go up to 200 and more
[15:05:05] <pacopablo> I think you've got some more serious issues going on with your box
[15:05:39] <sam`> like what?
[15:05:49] <sam`> runs perfectly
[15:05:50] <pacopablo> like why mod_python is causing that
[15:06:05] <pacopablo> since mod_python works great for many other people
[15:06:16] <sam`> i'm not running debian stable
[15:06:39] <LarstiQ> I'm running debian unstable, no problem with mod_python
[15:06:51] <sam`> LarstiQ: for how long ?
[15:07:07] <LarstiQ> sam`: more than a year now
[15:07:14] <sam`> (oh, while i think of it, i had the same problem on a debian testing, different hardware)
[15:07:27] <sam`> LarstiQ: like the box has 380+ days of uptime ?
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[15:07:49] <pacopablo> I'm running gentoo and mod_pyton works great for me
[15:07:59] <LarstiQ> sam`: not currently
[15:12:53] <sam`> grmbl
[15:12:56] <sam`> this is SO random
[15:13:13] <sam`> reload #1: no ticketdelete plugin
[15:13:19] <sam`> reload #2: plugin present
[15:13:27] <sam`> reload #3: 500 ISE with nothing in the apache errorlog
[15:13:32] <sam`> reload #4: plugin absent
[15:13:38] <sam`> reload #5: plugin here and working
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[15:15:43] <misc> reload, or restart ?
[15:16:23] <sam`> page reload
[15:16:30] <sam`> not even *server* reload
[15:16:34] <sam`> just reload on the client side
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[15:16:56] <misc> caching proxy, anything ?
[15:17:06] <sam`> nop
[15:17:20] <sam`> and i always reload with C-S-r
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[15:40:10] <Blackhex> hi all
[15:42:11] <pacopablo> jello
[15:43:16] <Blackhex> do anyone know some free trac or vserver provider?
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[15:46:03] <pacopablo> http://www.assembla.com/
[15:46:42] <pacopablo> http://projects.edgewall.com/trac/wiki/CommercialServices
[15:46:53] <Blackhex> thx
[15:48:16] <Blackhex> any xp with them?
[15:48:30] <pacopablo> a little with assembla.com
[15:48:45] <pacopablo> looked promissing, created a free project, and then never really had anything to put up ther
[15:48:49] <pacopablo> er, there
[15:49:53] <Blackhex> ok, I'll try, I know vserver.pipni.cz where I run my projects curently but it's offline often
[15:50:51] <tuxipuxi> free vservers, sure :>
[15:50:58] <Blackhex> yes
[15:51:17] <Blackhex> 333MHz 2G disk 128RAM
[15:51:32] <tuxipuxi> free svn hosting, ok, but how would someone pay free vserver hosting?
[15:52:21] <Blackhex> they have non-free services with 666 MHz or 1GHz
[15:52:37] <Blackhex> normal web hosting and other services
[15:52:43] <tuxipuxi> still strange
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[15:54:23] <Blackhex> look yourself http://pipni.cz/ if you know czech :-)
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[16:21:39] <Blackhex> pacopablo: Is there any chance to import existing trac environment into assembla?
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[16:30:27] <pacopablo> Blackhex: no clue
[16:36:47] <Blackhex> bye
[16:36:57] <pacopablo> later
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[16:45:30] <fholmes> How do I setup user names and passwords in Trac?
[16:45:53] <fholmes> I only see how to grant permissions. It does not say anything in the wiki on how to setup passwords that I can find
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[17:16:02] <pacopablo> ftrac uses HTTP AUTH
[17:16:14] <pacopablo> so however your webserver handles it
[17:16:25] <pacopablo> with apache, it generally means htpasswd
[17:16:35] <athomas> morning
[17:16:37] <athomas> hey paco
[17:16:48] <pacopablo> morning athomas
[17:18:27] <s0undt3ch> pacopablo: hello there again, now I've followed a Kerb/Ldap how to, still ran into trouble
[17:18:42] <s0undt3ch> pacopablo
[17:18:44] <s0undt3ch> oops
[17:18:59] <pacopablo> how far did you get this time?
[17:19:24] <s0undt3ch> pacopablo: pv?
[17:24:06] <s0undt3ch> pacopablo: I get stoped when running a ldapsearch
[17:25:39] <fholmes> Ok so I figured that part out now I am having a problem with parsing the .htaccess file for some reason. Is there anyother configuration I need to put into the .htaccess file besides using the htpasswd -c /var/trac/.htaccess root to setup the initial passwd file?
[17:27:25] <fholmes> I get an: Invalid command 'root:encrypted password', perhaps misspelled or defined by a module not included in the server configuration, referer: http://mysite/projectname
[17:29:07] <pacopablo> what's that error from? tracd? apache? htpasswd?
[17:29:16] <fholmes> My subversion works properly with the same .htaccess file.
[17:29:21] <fholmes> The error is in apache
[17:30:08] <fholmes> It is such a vague message it is hard to search for. I have checked my permissions and tried moving the file all over the place, inside the trac path outside etc. No luck so far.
[17:33:04] <pacopablo> pastebin your apache config
[17:33:08] <pacopablo> for the login section
[17:33:13] <fholmes> such one minute
[17:35:33] <fholmes> http://pastebin.com/719814
[17:35:50] <fholmes> I have tried initially /var/trac and /var/trac/projectname
[17:36:44] <pacopablo> well, that looks like it should work
[17:37:08] <pacopablo> sorry, I gotta run
[17:37:12] <pacopablo> later all
[17:37:17] <fholmes> thanks anyway
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[17:53:58] <somecat> i am having some problems getting trac running on SLES9...I know it is a silly path issue in my apache configuration, but am having a hard time getting it workign...anyone have a sec to help me out?
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[18:09:54] <athomas> weee
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[18:29:12] <somecat> anyone interested?
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[22:36:17] <megalO-> anybody awake that has experience with soruceforge2trac?
[22:36:32] <megalO-> i am getting the error "Error: no such column: kind" when trying to run the script
[22:41:36] <megalO-> just put in a test ticket and now it says it won't modify a DB with existing tickets
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