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<cboos> |
_and_ that could still be done by giving from/to object types |
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<cboos> |
no |
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<cboos> |
? |
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<athomas> |
yes quite true |
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<athomas> |
re. the attachment stuff... the IResourceIdentifier could be used |
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<athomas> |
although it doesn't have enough intelligence at the moment - no way of converting a resource ID to its trac link for example |
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<athomas> |
(unlike your object stuff) |
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<cboos> |
I really don't get why we don't have the TracObject stuff yet ;) High prio for 0.11, I'd say ;) |
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<athomas> |
perhaps you should separate out the x-ref stuff from the object stuff? |
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<athomas> |
make it a smaller patch so the resistance is lower |
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<cboos> |
yes |
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<athomas> |
it would solve many problems i think |
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<cboos> |
anyway, plus with generic change hooks, the xref could be built as a plugin |
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<didier> |
hi |
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<cboos> |
hi |
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<didier> |
I'm with trac 0.8.4 and I have a file attached to a wiki page I can't view: Error, Attachment not found |
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<athomas> |
that sucks |
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<didier> |
how can I delete the reference to this file |
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<cboos> |
athomas: ok, so I would really like that you commit the latest of #2296 ... so I can build on that |
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<athomas> |
okay. i'll just change the x-trac-ticket stuff and commit |
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<cboos> |
perhaps mark it as ''work in progress'' if you're not confident it's 100% stable... but I think it's OK |
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<cboos> |
btw, there's still the IHTMLPreviewRenderer, or you already removed it? Don't remember... |
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<athomas> |
right |
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<athomas> |
i didn't remove it. it's actually quite a big job to do it, so i thought i'd get this minimal patch in and go from there |
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<cboos> |
good |
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<cboos> |
another open point I'd like to discuss with you is my wiki syntax improvements, regarding lists/quotes |
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<athomas> |
okay |
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<cboos> |
I was not able to make your last example work, actually (I don't know if you remember it) |
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<cboos> |
it was something like: |
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<didier> |
athomas: any idea on how I can remove the reference to this missing attachment ? |
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<cboos> |
* list |
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<cboos> |
|| table || |
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<cboos> |
|| table || |
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<athomas> |
didier: remove the entry from the attachments table in the db |
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<athomas> |
or create a dummy file perhaps |
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<cboos> |
and you expected the first table to be indented deeper than the second... but on the other hand I made the changes you suggested so that the indent logic would be modelled after the new list logic, i.e. don't use the spacewidth/2 anymore ... |
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<cboos> |
The only way I see getting the above example work as you expected (i.e. backward compatible) would be to "remember" the list depth stack, even when the list is finished, and if we're starting a quote, _reuse_ the list depth stack as the initial value for the quote depth stack ... |
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<athomas> |
i was imagining the "indent" depth would be used for everything |
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<athomas> |
but would follow the new logic |
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<cboos> |
yes, that would be the idea... |
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<cboos> |
however currently in practice we have a speciic list depth stack because we need to carry the list type info used at each level |
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<athomas> |
aah |
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<cboos> |
but that could be generalized, and in the case of block quotes, don't care about that extra information |
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<athomas> |
hmmm should we use trac.wiki.model.WikiPage rather than text/x-trac-wiki ? |
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<cboos> |
ah, no!!! |
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<athomas> |
heh |
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<cboos> |
text/x-trac-wiki is a _real_ mime type ! |
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<cboos> |
it's the wiki text format... not the wiki model object... |
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<athomas> |
true |
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<cboos> |
e.g. that can be used as the svn:mime-type property for storing wiki pages in the repos (and that's what we do with the wiki-default/* pages) |
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<cboos> |
ok, I'll have a second(3rd, 4th?) look at the list/indent code... |
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<athomas> |
hehe |
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<didier> |
athomas: I created a dummy file in the right directory, and I can the remove the attachment |
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<didier> |
thanks |
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<athomas> |
hmmm |
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<cmlenz> |
http://www.codeplex.com/ |
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<cmlenz> |
wiki links to tickets... hmm ;-) |
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<cmlenz> |
although... where's the wiki? :-P |
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<athomas> |
that kind of crazy technology will never catch on |
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<athomas> |
workitems, heh |
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<athomas> |
i have no idea how to view these workitems |
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<athomas> |
ah |
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<honda_S2000> |
hi in the cc field if a user as its mail in the setting, if we put just its username in the cc field is that user notifies by email? |
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<cboos> |
honda_S2000: I believe so |
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<cboos> |
athomas: http://www.codeplex.com/WorkItem/List.aspx?ProjectName=TestProject7 |
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<honda_S2000> |
you believe or you're sure it should work? |
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<cboos> |
honda_S2000: sorry, I've never tried myself, and I'm not that familiar with the notification code... |
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<honda_S2000> |
ok so who should i talk with about that? |
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<cmlenz> |
honda_S2000: the answer is yes |
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<honda_S2000> |
oki |
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<honda_S2000> |
thanx |
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<cmlenz> |
if you have your email set in the settings, you can use just your login name in the CC |
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<honda_S2000> |
thanx for the help |
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<honda_S2000> |
you've been very helpful |
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<athomas> |
ok cboos, committed in r3305 |
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<cboos> |
thanks! |
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<athomas> |
i'll start removing IHTMLPreviewRenderer shortly |
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<cmlenz> |
can we s/get_conversions/get_supported_conversions ? |
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<athomas> |
sure thing |
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<athomas> |
i think i got sidetracked after the last time you asked that ;) |
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<cmlenz> |
hehe |
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<athomas> |
righto, done |
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<athomas> |
actually i'll add some unit tests |
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<cmlenz> |
any plans on what to do with the annotation stuff? |
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<cmlenz> |
while the current API is pretty useless, the ancient blame branch of mine has some changes that make it very useful for stuff like blame support |
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<athomas> |
hadn't really thought about it to be honest, but i can see how it would be useful for blame support |
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<athomas> |
it might be nice to have content annotation too |
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<athomas> |
eg. a jpg annotator that shows exif data |
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<cmlenz> |
yeah |
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<athomas> |
do you think EnvironmentStub should log to stderr? |
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<ktk> |
hi all |
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<ktk> |
anyone knows if I can give a permission in the wiki that all *registered* users can modify and not anonymous? I have my users in LDAP anyway but if I leave it open for anyone ig gets spammed on a regular base |
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<athomas> |
yes, use the virtual "authenticated" user |
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<ktk> |
athomas: ok tnx so instead of "anonymous" it's "authenticated"? |
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<athomas> |
correct |
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<athomas> |
@permissions |
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<evil_twin> |
athomas: "permissions" is See http://projects.edgewall.com/trac/wiki/TracPermissions for information on built-in permissions |
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<ktk> |
perfect thanks. |
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<ktk> |
ah great I can even do groups |
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<ktk> |
need to move all that into LDAP, gets too complicated with htpasswd |
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<cornernote> |
hello, i am trying to install on windows and I get this error: |
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<cornernote> |
DLL load failed: The specified module could not be found. |
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<cornernote> |
i followed this step: |
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<cornernote> |
, copy the three DLL's - libdb42.dll - libeay32.dll - ssleay32.dll from your [subversion]\bin directory to your system directory (most likely C:\Windows\system32). |
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<cornernote> |
hey - i just copied all the DLLs there and it works |
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<cornernote> |
:) |
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<cornernote> |
thanks guys |
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<cornernote> |
;) |
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<athomas> |
it was nothing |
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<cornernote> |
i never used python before |
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<cornernote> |
but trac looked pretty sexy |
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<cornernote> |
thought i'd give it a burl... |
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<cornernote> |
the install was long..... not too painful, but long |
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<cornernote> |
so many dependencies |
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<cboos> |
speaking about python... what's the most elegant way to do a FIFO? |
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<cboos> |
not a full blown class of course... just the one liner thing |
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<cboos> |
Currently I use fifo = [elt] + fifo and pop(), but that looks a bit wrong |
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<cboos> |
the list is backwards... |
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<cboos> |
In ruby, I would use << and shift ... |
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<cboos> |
much cleaner :) |
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<athomas> |
fifo.append("foo") |
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<athomas> |
fifo.pop(0) |
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<athomas> |
cboos, re #3068...i assume you're proposing we use the perm.IResourceIdentifier |
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<athomas> |
? |
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<cboos> |
well, more or less. |
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<athomas> |
but with some changes obviously |
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<cboos> |
the problem here is that there are two resources actually |
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<cboos> |
the parent one, and the attachment itself |
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<athomas> |
yes, IResourceIdentifier currently returns (parent_type, parent_id, attachment) |
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<cboos> |
And the permissions? |
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<cboos> |
it's not really clear for me what they should be and how they would be specified |
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<athomas> |
the caller specifies permissions via perm.has_permission() |
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<athomas> |
ideally each object would have VIEW, MODIFY, DELETE, ADMIN permissions |
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<athomas> |
instead of WIKI_VIEW, WIKI_MODIFY, etc. |
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<cboos> |
yes, but adding an attachment modifies the parent resource, and create the attachment resource |
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<cboos> |
and currently we are able to distinguish allowing to add attachments for wiki pages, but not for tickets, etc. |
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<cboos> |
oops sorry have to go to lunch |
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<athomas> |
well, actually those permissions are enforced in trac.ticket.web_ui or trac.wiki.web_ui |
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<athomas> |
not in trac.attachment |
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<__doc__> |
when a ticket is closed, can I get trac to send an email back to the one who reported it? |
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<coderanger_> |
[notification] always_notify_reporter |
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<coderanger_> |
@ini |
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<evil_twin> |
coderanger_: "ini" is See http://projects.edgewall.com/trac/wiki/TracIni for details on the Trac configuration file. |
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<ktk> |
wow trac envolves, wasn't possible the last time I've read it :) |
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<coderanger_> |
That option has been around for a while |
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<coderanger_> |
at least since 0.8 |
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<ktk> |
hmm ok :) can't remember that one |
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<ktk> |
ah btw something I wanted to ask for a long time: I plan to do a bigger project with several trees in subversion instead of an own repository for each tree (because they rely on each other). can I create tracs per subtree instead of one trac for all of the trees? |
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<ktk> |
I would like to have timeline etc per tree, gets a bit a mess otherwise |
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<coderanger_> |
Yes |
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<coderanger_> |
if the repo is at /var/svn/repo |
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<coderanger_> |
and the subpath is /proj1 |
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<coderanger_> |
give the repo path as /var/svn/repo/proj1 |
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<ktk> |
ah great! |
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<ktk> |
thought about that but didn't try it |
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<ktk> |
coderanger_: thanks for the hint |
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<coderanger_> |
If there are moves and such between subprojects, trac may get confused though |
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<ktk> |
yes ok |
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<ktk> |
won't happen most probably |
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<coderanger_> |
Hopefully that has been fixed by now, but it was an issue a few months ago |
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<athomas> |
hey coderanger |
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<coderanger_> |
athomas: Alo |
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<galis> |
I've fixed this before, but can't find any doc ATM |
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<galis> |
using the formula.py macro I'm getting |
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<Blackhex> |
hello |
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<galis> |
WARNING: setuptools is required for plugin deployment |
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<Blackhex> |
please, is this right? : action = req.args['action'].value |
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<galis> |
can't remember how to fix, using trac from pkgsrc 2006Q1 |
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<galis> |
don't all jump in at at once.... okay |
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<athomas> |
you need to install setuptools |
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<athomas> |
blackhex: req.args should just be a dictionary-a-like |
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<Blackhex> |
so why action = req.args['action']; self.log.debug(action); gives me Trac[core] DEBUG: MiniFieldStorage('action', 'append') |
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<Blackhex> |
? |
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<Blackhex> |
running within tracd |
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<athomas> |
ah, yes...req.args.get('action') |
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<Blackhex> |
ok, thanks |
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<athomas> |
the type of req.args depends on the frontend under stable |
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<athomas> |
0.9.x |
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<Blackhex> |
i see, i looked to sources but didn't find any standart acces method |
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<mitsuhiko> |
Blackhex: what's standart? ^^ |
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<Blackhex> |
standard, sorry, I ment same API for all frontends |
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<jave> |
whats the status of xmlrpc? will it work to use current trunk and apply the changes? |
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<athomas> |
what changes? |
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<athomas> |
it should work with trunk |
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<jave> |
bad wording, i meant install the xmlrpc plugin |
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<jave> |
athomas: thanks |
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<coderanger_> |
In python, how do you print without a newline? |
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<athomas> |
trailing comma |
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<Blackhex> |
with , in the end |
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<coderanger_> |
ahh, thanky |
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<Blackhex> |
athomas: how is ment moderators in discussion plugin please? |
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<cendrizzi> |
Is there a way to add different resolutions? I saw a ticket on it but until some way is added is there at least some way to do it? |
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<athomas> |
blackhex: i was planning on having a FORUM_MODERATOR permission |
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<Blackhex> |
athomas: should the be existing trac users or independent one? |
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<athomas> |
i was going to use trac users |
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<Blackhex> |
athomas: ok, I'll see what can I do. |
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<coderanger_> |
Hmm, is there a way to tell urllib2 to use http 1.1? |
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<coderanger_> |
Ahh, looks I just should use httplib directly |
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<cboos> |
cmlenz: hi, did you have a chance to check the ETag stuff I e-mailed you? |
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<cmlenz> |
oh right, forgot about that :-P |
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<cmlenz> |
sorry, not yet |
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<cboos> |
it seems that it doesn't work anymore, at least with tracd |
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<cboos> |
I don't see the "HEAD" requests ... |
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<cmlenz> |
that's not needed |
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<cmlenz> |
a browser should do conditional GETs |
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<cmlenz> |
hmm, works for me with firefox 1.0.8 on p.e.c |
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<cmlenz> |
and also with firefox 1.5.0.3 on windows, also against p.e.c |
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<cmlenz> |
both get the ETag, and send it back as If-None-Match, and then receive a 304 response |
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<cmlenz> |
(tested on changeset pages) |
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<Blackhex> |
how to get list of trac users? from auth_cookie table? |
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<cmlenz> |
Blackhex: in what context? for what purpose? |
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<cmlenz> |
Blackhex: the Environment class has a get_known_users() method, for example |
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<Blackhex> |
cmlenz: for list of users wich can moderate discussion |
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<Blackhex> |
thanks |
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<cboos> |
cmlenz: against which URL? I tried http://projects.edgewall.com/trac/changeset/3309, and I always get 200 back... |
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<cmlenz> |
I get 200 on the first visit, and then 304 on subsequent visits, just as expected |
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<athomas> |
cboos, re #2669, i think 'text/plain' was used for csv because browsers don't play nicely with text/csv |
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<cmlenz> |
make sure you have the cache enabled, and aren't shift-reloading ;-) |
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<athomas> |
and i used 'ck' for the iterator "key" so the final exception could use the function arg "key" for reporting |
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<athomas> |
if that makes sense |
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<cboos> |
athomas: well, text/csv is a registered MIME type... and there's still the Tab separated value as text/plain ... |
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<cmlenz> |
text/tab-separated-values |
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<athomas> |
yeah...well *shrug* |
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<cboos> |
athomas: otherwise, I don't see how to "hook" on the text/csv conversion |
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<cmlenz> |
if there's a registered mimetype, we should use that IMHO |
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<athomas> |
i just converted your code cmlenz :P |
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<cmlenz> |
and I just converted someone else's ;-) |
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<cboos> |
was not me ;) |
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<athomas> |
hehe |
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<cboos> |
following the pipeline idea of #2669, it would be easy to add automatically an extra link "Text CSV" to each existing text/csv conversion |
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<athomas> |
i guess the file extension for text/tab-separated-values should be tsv |
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<cmlenz> |
do we absolutely need a separate extension? |
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<athomas> |
well no, but it's the "official" one apparently: http://www.cs.tut.fi/~jkorpela/TSV.html |
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<athomas> |
as long as we're being correct, may as well go all the way |
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<cmlenz> |
k |
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<athomas> |
cboos: not sure i follow...conversion from text/csv to text/csv? |
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<athomas> |
or was that "tabbed csv"? |
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<cboos> |
no, from text/csv to text/plain |
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<athomas> |
ah i see |
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<cboos> |
in case someone really wants to have that... |
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<galis> |
can anybody comment on using setuptools to make my plugin work again after doing a pkgsrc update? what do I run |
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<cboos> |
cmlenz: about the cache: in the same request, I get 304 responses in the same request for the static resources, so I guess the browser (IE in this case) has the cache enabled... http://trac.pastebin.com/722638 |
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<athomas> |
i think that "format =..., convert_content(), req.send..." stuff could be factored out into a method, it looks like a common use-case |
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<athomas> |
anyway, bed time for me |
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<cboos> |
athomas: I agree |
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<Blackhex> |
cmlenz: env.get_known_users() gives me nothing |
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<cboos> |
cmlenz: thanks for the tip about the cache, it was disabled (looking at the options was not enough .... about:config + reset was needed ...) |
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<cboos> |
cmlenz: I can now fix #3116 without feeling bad :) |
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<cboos> |
(except that the conditional GET on changeset doesn't seem to work with IE, but I guess we don't care that much...) |
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<Blackhex> |
bye |
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<cmlenz> |
cboos: yeah, IE doesn't seem to send the If-None-Match header with its requests |
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<cmlenz> |
probably doesn't properly support etags :-/ |
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<cmlenz> |
IE is such a piece of crap that you just can't stop finding even more problems with it... no matter whether in CSS, HTTP, HTML forms, etc |
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<cboos> |
well, as you can see in the pasted lnk above, it supports "simple" ETags, like the one set by lighthttpd for the static content (ETag: "1313005249") |
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<cboos> |
luckily we'll soon have a IE7, fully w3c/ietf/whatever conformant ;) |
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<cmlenz> |
probably "if strlen(etag) > 16: /* ignore */ " ;-) |
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<cmlenz> |
cboos: you wish... still tons of bugs |
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<cboos> |
speaking how M$, what do we do concerning CodePlex, do we sue them? |
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<cboos> |
(Edgewall has patented the whole "integrated wiki/bts/source browser" thing, right ;) ? |
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<cmlenz> |
yeah sure, their legal department is like non-existant ;-) |
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<cmlenz> |
is it already larger than engineering? |
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<cboos> |
well, the prior art seems to be CVSTrac anyway... |
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<cboos> |
but I'm not sure M$ cares about prior art ... |
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<ktk> |
off. cu guys |
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<mofo> |
hello |
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<mofo> |
is there anu |
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<mofo> |
*any |
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<mofo> |
plugin to report the advance of a milestone |
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<kaouete> |
hi |
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<kaouete> |
i have a little problem, i installed trac on an apache2 with fcgi and python 2.3. when i try to download attachements in trac's wiki the download never end, sometimes it doesnt start, and i cant get the entire file. |
