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May 18, 2006

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[03:20:40] <__oue> quick question
[03:20:46] <__oue> how do i reset the svn revision log
[03:20:47] <__oue> ?
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[03:33:32] <athomas> trac-admin resync
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[03:51:06] <__oue> yeah
[03:51:08] <__oue> i figured already
[03:51:10] <__oue> thanks anyway
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[07:07:52] <Jug> does trac need subversion?
[07:09:01] <athomas> 0.9.x does to initialise, yes
[07:09:18] <coderanger_> Though you can deactivate it later on
[07:09:57] <Jug> but there is no way to use trac with bazaar-ng or something else?
[07:10:10] <coderanger_> After you get it setup, yes
[07:10:16] <Jug> oh nice
[07:10:27] <coderanger_> 0.10 fixes that ;-)
[07:10:57] <coderanger_> So if you are planning to use something other than subversion, you may just want to use trunk
[07:11:18] <Jug> hmm
[07:14:37] <athomas> don't fight it
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[07:33:34] <BaconTastesGood> is there a simple guide on how to take an existing processor or macro .py file and convert it to an .egg that I can install with WebAdmin?
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[07:58:22] <mpj> anyone have any ideas on my trac-admin no such file / file exists problem on init?
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[09:35:58] <otaku42> anyone else experienced spam that via ticket comments?
[09:36:59] <otaku42> our trac has just been hit by a spammer, see http://madwifi.org/ticket/23 and http://madwifi.org/ticket/263
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[09:50:15] <coderanger_> otaku42_away: Yes, its pretty common now
[09:50:24] <coderanger_> Grab TicketDelete from trac-hacks
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[10:49:28] <coderanger_> Hey muness
[10:51:16] <muness> hi
[10:52:24] <muness> I miss this place - been interviewing and otherwise occupied lately.
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[10:53:18] <_42> is there any trac plugin which allows the diff to be shown on a per commiter basis for every revision?
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[10:56:43] <coderanger_> _42: As of trunk, you can diff arbitrary revisions
[10:56:56] <coderanger_> muness: Yeah, I know what you mean. School has taken over my life
[10:57:17] <_42> well i remember a feature in cvsweb which allowed me to look at an entire files revision history with diffs per commiter
[10:57:25] <muness> coderanger: totally. and it so sucks that I don't use Trac at work.
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[10:58:14] <muness> Looks like I may be going to ThoughtWorks. Hopefully, I'll get to use it once I am there - a lot of the folks I interviewed with seemed to know about Trac (and like it, of course).
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[11:11:05] <coderanger_> _42: I know of no such thing, though you can post a request at trac-hacks
[11:11:14] <coderanger_> muness: Nifty
[11:11:21] <_42> alright, thanks.
[11:11:26] <muness> *fingers crossed*
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[11:12:40] <coderanger_> I'm always surprised at the number of people who use/know about Trac
[11:12:51] <thenerdsangle> it seems like it caught on very quickly
[11:13:54] <coderanger_> I can just imagine that at one point I will see something I've written for it used in production somewhere, that will be hilarious
[11:14:34] <muness> I know. I get tickled by tags. :)
[11:14:47] <muness> Alec did such a good job with cleaning my implementation up. :)
[11:15:59] <thenerdsangle> question: i'm trying to install trac on my server, and i'm getting an error that /var/trac/db/trac.db isn't found. what can i do to regenerate that file?
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[11:16:33] <coderanger_> thenerdsangle: Do a new initenv
[11:17:38] <thenerdsangle> k. thx
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[11:43:32] <muness> coderanger: there?
[11:43:58] <muness> Stupid question: where should I install globally installed plugins/eggs?
[11:49:12] <coderanger_> anywhere that python can find them
[11:50:28] <coderanger_> usually /usr/lib/python2.x/site-packages
[11:52:00] <muness> Thanks.
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[11:56:48] <pacopablo> jello all
[12:04:17] <coderanger_> alo
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[12:28:49] <aib> when I move a folder in svn, should that change show up immediately in trac?
[12:29:19] <pacopablo> if it doesn't try a resync
[12:29:26] <coderanger_> Give or take about 15 seconds for the changelog to sync
[12:29:56] <aib> i did try a resync just now. i'm noticing some strange behavior in trac i guess
[12:30:11] <aib> i also flushed the browser cache
[12:36:26] <coderanger_> Do you see the change in the subversion server?
[12:36:41] <aib> definitely. i tried a fresh checkout of the entire repository and the change is made
[12:36:56] <aib> this is an empty folder. i moved it from `model' to `sims' and it still shows up as model
[12:37:02] <aib> (in trac, but not svn)
[12:37:14] <pacopablo> restar tteh web server?
[12:37:27] <pacopablo> ooh I can type today!
[12:37:34] <aib> i'll tyr ti ;)
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[12:45:00] <aib> i didn't restart it but it finally changed. looks like there is a ~10 minute delay. perhaps there is a preference somewhere for sync-delay?
[12:45:12] <pacopablo> not that I know of
[12:45:19] <pacopablo> are you using mod_python or fastcgi?
[12:45:58] <aib> mod_python yes
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[12:46:19] <pacopablo> I would suspect object caching then
[12:46:34] <pacopablo> I bet if you restarted the web server it would have changed sooner
[12:46:43] <aib> ok i will keep this in mind
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[13:18:24] <aib> is there a way to convince trac to display the source code for files larger than ~ 2mb ?
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[13:27:17] <pacopablo> that's a ini file option
[13:27:20] <pacopablo> @faq ini
[13:27:20] <evil_twin> pacopablo: "ini" is See http://projects.edgewall.com/trac/wiki/TracIni for details on the Trac configuration file.
[13:27:57] <pacopablo> specifically: max_preview_size
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[17:13:56] <athomas> morning
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[17:41:44] <aib> is there a method for me to associate .proj and .css files with c++ highlighting?
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[17:43:28] <athomas> not really
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[17:50:24] <aib> there must be a list somewhere that says that .cpp, cc, cxx etc.. are associated with the c++ language
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[18:10:30] <athomas> the trac component architecture looks almost identical to zope3 components
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[18:55:23] <Majestik_> Does anyone know if there is a .tex document to (trac) wiki converter?
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[19:11:39] <tinjaw> pwd
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[19:29:53] <datafirm> hello
[19:30:14] <datafirm> Is there a way for developers to checkout svn projects that are managed through trac
[19:30:35] <datafirm> ie svn co http://domain.tld/trac/projectname .
[19:32:30] <datafirm> Looks like I might still have to do this through apache
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[21:37:23] <ranq_> datafirm: so what you wanna achieve? you can host svn over apache
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[22:23:46] <pacopablo> evening all
[22:38:48] <athomas> hey paco
[22:39:31] <pacopablo> how goes it?
[22:41:23] <athomas> it goes excellently, i am GOOGLE MAN!
[22:41:25] <athomas> :)
[22:41:29] <pacopablo> w00t!
[22:41:33] <athomas> !
[22:41:36] <pacopablo> congratulations
[22:41:42] <athomas> thanks :)
[22:41:59] <pacopablo> I hope it's all that it's craked up to be
[22:42:06] <pacopablo> er, cracked, even
[22:42:18] <athomas> i have the feeling it will be
[22:42:29] <athomas> everything i've heard indicates it is
[22:42:34] <pacopablo> do you know what division your in, or what you'll be working on?
[22:43:25] <athomas> yep this is the jd: http://tinyurl.com/jtlp8
[22:44:39] <pacopablo> nice
[22:45:25] <pacopablo> I'm sure you'll have some "unique" issues with the google network :0
[22:45:30] <pacopablo> s/:0/:)
[22:45:50] <athomas> heh yeah
[22:46:47] <athomas> they're moving to a follow-the-sun support model, so we'll be supporting apac
[22:47:55] <pacopablo> apache?
[22:49:32] * pacopablo curses windows
[22:49:59] <pacopablo> why did they have to get all complex and crap about their networking and daemons, er services?
[22:50:22] <pacopablo> and python makes things worse
[22:50:47] <pacopablo> cus it's so easy to just get by with python, that there is precious little info about the stuff I want
[22:51:05] * pacopablo curses python's simplicity and power
[22:54:52] <athomas> nah apac = asia-pacific
[22:55:01] <pacopablo> ahh
[22:55:28] <athomas> i'm glad i don't have to deal with windows
[22:58:22] <pacopablo> I'm gald my primary work environment is linux
[22:58:35] <pacopablo> but most of our customers use windows
[22:58:45] <pacopablo> so I'm stuck with it.
[22:59:17] * pacopablo may have just found the info he needs
[23:01:30] <athomas> python is cool
[23:01:37] <pacopablo> yes it is
[23:01:50] <pacopablo> I jsut wish the win43all stuff was better documented
[23:04:56] <pacopablo> wow, I really can't type tonight
[23:05:04] <pacopablo> that was supposed to be win32all
[23:05:11] <pacopablo> 43 bit processors!
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[23:10:15] <adamu> I'm having trouble upgrading from Trac 0.8.4 to 0.9.5
[23:10:40] <pacopablo> are you following the upgrade guide?
[23:10:43] <adamu> I keep getting a "Command failed:"
[23:10:47] <adamu> yeah
[23:10:55] <pacopablo> whic command failed?
[23:10:57] <adamu> trac-admin /var/trac upgrade give
[23:11:01] <adamu> doesn't say
[23:11:07] <pacopablo> pastebin!
[23:11:12] <adamu> just gives "Command failed:"
[23:11:28] <pacopablo> turn on logging and see if there is a tracback in there
[23:11:32] <pacopablo> er, traceback
[23:12:02] <adamu> how do I do that?
[23:12:18] <adamu> could it be that I'm using a different version of python now?
[23:12:26] <adamu> went from 2.2 to 2.3.5
[23:12:39] <pacopablo> is 2.2 still on the machine?
[23:12:42] <adamu> yeah
[23:12:52] <pacopablo> it's possible that it's not using the right one
[23:13:12] <adamu> yeah, I moved the binary to python2
[23:13:16] <adamu> and python is now 2.3.3
[23:13:54] <adamu> any command I do with trac-admin seems to give the same error
[23:13:56] <adamu> well, no error
[23:14:02] <adamu> even version list
[23:14:59] <pacopablo> @faq logging
[23:14:59] <evil_twin> pacopablo: "logging" is http://projects.edgewall.com/trac/wiki/TracLogging <-- Enable debug logging to file, ensure your environments log/ directory is writeable by your web server user, check for errors.
[23:15:11] <pacopablo> do that and see if there is a traceback
[23:15:37] <adamu> cool, is that a bot?
[23:15:49] <pacopablo> si
[23:20:53] <adamu> nothing seems to be coming up in the trac.log
[23:21:06] <adamu> it created the file when I executed trac-admin so it tried to log
[23:21:11] <adamu> but nothing is in there
[23:21:24] <pacopablo> hmm
[23:23:34] <adamu> OK, I'll run through what I did...
[23:23:48] <adamu> I removed cgi-bin htdocs templates trac wiki-default
[23:24:02] <adamu> downloaded trac-0.9.5.tar.gz
[23:24:07] <adamu> untarred and ran
[23:24:26] <adamu> python2.3 ./setup.py install
[23:24:45] <adamu> now I have trac-admin version 0.9.5
[23:24:54] <adamu> and cgi-bin htdocs templates trac wiki-default were all recreated
[23:25:06] <adamu> sound right?
[23:25:38] <pacopablo> more or less
[23:25:51] <adamu> then I was getting that blank error
[23:26:00] <adamu> so I tried installing sqlite3
[23:26:08] <adamu> and upgrading the database
[23:26:14] <pacopablo> when you run trac-admin, make sure that you specify the path of the python 2.3 site-packages dir
[23:26:16] <adamu> then I tried installing clearsilver
[23:26:28] <adamu> oh ok
[23:26:57] <adamu> how?
[23:27:07] <adamu> trac-admin --packages <dir>
[23:27:09] <adamu> or somethign?
[23:27:55] <pacopablo> PYTHONPATH="/path/to/site-package" trac-admin blah
[23:29:21] <adamu> PYTHONPATH="/usr/lib/python2.3/site-packages/trac/" trac-admin /var/trac upgrade
[23:29:22] <adamu> Command failed:
[23:29:22] <adamu> PYTHONPATH="/usr/lib/python2.3/site-packages/trac/" trac-admin /var/trac upgrade
[23:29:22] <adamu> Command failed:
[23:29:22] <adamu> PYTHONPATH="/usr/lib/python2.3/site-packages/trac/" trac-admin /var/trac upgrade
[23:29:24] <adamu> Command failed:
[23:29:27] <adamu> PYTHONPATH="/usr/lib/python2.3/site-packages/trac/" trac-admin /var/trac upgrade
[23:29:30] <adamu> Command failed:
[23:29:33] <adamu> sorry, only meant to copy once
[23:30:20] <pacopablo> well, I'm not sure
[23:30:39] <pacopablo> my guess is that it has something to do with your two different versions of python
[23:30:46] <pacopablo> but I've got to head to bed now.
[23:30:50] <pacopablo> good luck
[23:30:56] <adamu> ok, well thanks for your help
[23:33:52] <adamu> anyone else have any idea what's going on?
[23:34:25] <adamu> I just upgraded from 0.8.4 to 0.9.5 and am getting "Command failed:" with no more info when running any trac-admin commands
[23:47:01] <athomas> see ya paco
[23:49:48] <adamu> OK, I sent an email to the list
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