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May 25, 2006

[00:06:33] <pacopablo> night all
[00:06:41] <athomas> bye paco
[00:11:10] <asmodai> which trac.ini parameter would be showing the plugin directory?
[00:11:27] <asmodai> oh duh
[00:11:38] <asmodai> it's not the conf environment, but the dir environment
[00:12:09] <asmodai> older tracs don't have a trac/plugins dir
[00:21:11] <asmodai> mmm
[00:21:16] <asmodai> matt_good: around?
[00:26:48] <asmodai> *cries*
[00:27:05] <asmodai> Wonder how to report this spam-filter issue to cboos, ticket or wiki page, mmm
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[00:46:16] <asmodai> matt_good: http://projects.edgewall.com/trac/ticket/3187 when you get a chance
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[02:01:26] <asmodai> Anyone using SpamFilter and particularly the akismet part?
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[07:50:28] <Moof> how would I go about plugging my bug reporting system into trac?
[07:51:07] <Moof> as in, I'd rather use trac's ticket manager, but I want to automagically send reports to it from my application
[08:00:17] <puetzk> athomas: I'm back now if you're still around. Sorry about forgetting to set /away when I got dragged off yesterday
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[08:04:59] <id_> hi there, I have few questions on Trac Wiki
[08:04:59] <id_> 1. is that possible to setup e-mail notifications on Wiki articles update?
[08:04:59] <id_> 2. is that any way to disable Case Sensitive links (so page /TheWiki could be accessible by /thewiki too)?
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[08:14:45] <pacopablo> Moof: install trunk and then grab the XMLRPC plugin
[08:15:23] <pacopablo> id_: 1: no
[08:17:09] <pacopablo> id_: 2: not that I know of
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[08:17:51] <pacopablo> id_: though for 2 you can simply create a page named /thewiki and then use [wiki:thewiki Page Name] link syntax to link to it
[08:19:21] <puggy> I'm having a little problem with authz. I have set my repository_dir to be a sub directory of my root svn, but if a person logs in who does not have permissions to view that section of the repository it does not show the standard permissions error you'd expect... it in fact shows:
[08:19:33] <puggy> Trac detected an internal error:
[08:19:34] <puggy> (None, 220001)
[08:19:58] <puggy> Is this because of the authz module I have defined? As I defined it as the module of the root trac.
[08:20:05] <puggy> root svn even
[08:20:38] <puggy> is there a way of setting the module to be = myrootsvn:/myproj like in the authz configuration file.
[08:20:42] <puggy> if that is even the problem.
[08:22:57] <id_> pacopablo: thanks, I know that, but I wanted to use links in emails or other cases and to be sure people do not type manually /inlowercase instead of /InUpperCase...
[08:23:30] <id_> so they should see the article in any way (regardless on case typed...)
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[08:29:38] <pacopablo> id_: the only thing that CamelCase really does is automatically create a link for the page. So if you create a page: /thispage and don't manually create a link to it, then the only place you'll be able to find it is in the TitleIndex.
[08:30:23] <pacopablo> id_: additionally, if you create a wiki page, it won't create a link to any non CamelCase pages unless you specify it by using the [wiki:pagename Desc] syntax
[08:32:56] <id_> as I told, it's not a problem for me to create pages in CamelCase (with appropriate links), I just wanted to know if there is any way to setup Wiki to show my page from /lowercase too (synonyms or what?)
[08:35:22] <pacopablo> no
[08:35:31] <id_> ok, thanks
[08:35:47] <pacopablo> unless you do some URL rewriting via apache or something
[08:35:57] <pacopablo> but that's probably way more work than it's worth
[08:36:12] <id_> btw, maybe some plugins for Trac available?
[08:38:06] <pacopablo> there are plenty of plugins for trac available, but none that I know of that do that
[08:38:23] <pacopablo> trac-hacks.org is the semi-official repository for trac plugins
[08:40:42] <matt_good> id_: you should fix the colors in your IRC client, when you put "pacopablo: " the text became black, which doesn't work very well on a black background
[08:44:09] <id_> heh, I copied and pasted RED "pacopablo: "... :)
[08:44:09] <id_> anyway, thank you very much
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[08:49:15] <Moof> is there a way to link to a line number in a source file uing a source: lin in the wiki?
[08:54:40] <pacopablo> I think it's #L32
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[09:27:38] <Jug> is it possible to install trac w/o having admin permissions on a server?
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[09:28:47] <tuxipuxi> what's admin permissions?
[09:29:37] <Jug> well being root..
[09:29:44] <tuxipuxi> without root rights, yes
[09:29:44] <Jug> and having access apache configs and so on
[09:30:00] <Jug> and actually use it..?
[09:30:03] <tuxipuxi> but you'll need the admin for changing the apache config
[09:30:16] <Jug> well that what I meant :)
[09:30:34] <Jug> what does it actually need in apache config then?
[09:31:05] <Jug> I guess at least <location> directive doesnt work in .htaccess file
[09:31:18] <tuxipuxi> mainly two simple location blocks which depend on the backend you use(mod_python, cgi, fastcgi)
[09:34:51] <Jug> yep
[10:11:32] <Blackhex> athomas: are you here?
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[10:28:02] <Moof> can I install trac trunk using setuptools?
[10:28:33] <prologic> probably not
[10:28:43] <prologic> just checkout the trunk and python setup.py install it
[10:28:46] <prologic> not hard
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[10:53:50] <Moof> hmmm
[10:55:40] <Moof> how would I go about writing a plugin that displays a variable-size list of links to a website of mine detailing inputs to an error?
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[10:57:55] <coderanger_> moof: Looks at the docs on clearsilver
[10:58:07] <coderanger_> It supports looping constructs
[10:58:34] <Moof> as in, I have an error-reporting system. I will get a *lot* of repeats of the same error, but I want ot manage it such that I only have one trac ticket per error (hasing hitngs like filename, line number, type and content of error, etc). I want to then be able to display a list of those erro reports inside my error ticket
[11:01:26] <coderanger_> Ahh, that you can't do
[11:01:41] <coderanger_> I would add a comment for each error report
[11:02:05] <coderanger_> With those extra things as custom fields on the ticket
[11:02:22] <Moof> there's potentially hundreds of them before the ticket is closed.
[11:02:38] <Moof> it would bugger up my timeline somethng cronic, let alone any serious discussion
[11:05:55] <Moof> can a custom filed be a list?
[11:05:56] <Moof> er
[11:05:58] <Moof> field?
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[11:08:34] <coderanger_> I would ask Alec, he reworked the entire ticket system, so even if it can't right now, I bet its possible
[11:09:05] <Moof> on a mailing list?
[11:09:31] <Moof> or rather, which one?
[11:09:43] <coderanger_> either ask on trac-dev, or wait a few hours until he is awake
[11:10:01] <Moof> what does he go under?
[11:10:07] <Moof> er
[11:10:11] <Moof> what's his nick?
[11:10:19] <matt_good> Moof: athomas
[11:10:24] <Moof> ok
[11:10:24] <coderanger_> athomas or alect
[11:11:22] <coderanger_> He is usually one by around 10 or 11 Sydney time
[11:11:27] <coderanger_> er, on by
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[14:46:07] <Blackhex> hi, do anyone know in what timezone http://trac-hacks.org is placed?
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[17:11:16] <evilbulgarian> hi, how can i insert an link to a file that is on an windows share?
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[17:37:23] <coderanger_> evilbulgarian: I don't think you can easily
[17:37:34] <coderanger_> Maybe with a funky InterWiki setup
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[17:44:23] <evilbulgarian> how about getting rid of the attachment html preview stuff and how do i delete attachments i am admin and dont see it
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[17:49:48] <coderanger_> evilbulgarian: In the attachment page there is a button for it
[17:50:06] <coderanger_> As for the preview, do you just never want a preview?
[17:50:40] <evilbulgarian> coderanger_: yeah lets start with that no preview
[17:50:52] <coderanger_> @tracini
[17:50:52] <evil_twin> coderanger_: Error: "tracini" is not a valid command.
[17:50:55] <evilbulgarian> coderanger_: i can see delete attachment for other ppls attachments but not the ones i added
[17:51:17] <coderanger_> evilbulgarian: Just set the max_attachment size to 1 or something
[17:51:24] <coderanger_> Itl never to a preview then
[17:52:24] <evilbulgarian> coderanger_: but then it wont have a max on the attachment ?
[17:52:25] <evilbulgarian> or
[17:52:43] <evilbulgarian> [attachment]
[17:52:43] <evilbulgarian> max_size = 10485760
[17:52:47] <evilbulgarian> is what i have now
[17:53:16] <coderanger_> http://projects.edgewall.com/trac/wiki/TracIni#mimeviewer
[17:53:30] <coderanger_> max_preview_size=1
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[17:55:11] <evilbulgarian> [mimeviewer]
[17:55:11] <evilbulgarian> php_path = php
[17:55:11] <evilbulgarian> enscript_path = enscript
[17:55:11] <evilbulgarian> tab_width = 8
[17:55:12] <evilbulgarian> max_preview_size = 1
[17:55:18] <evilbulgarian> and its still doing it
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[18:12:59] <coderanger_> Did you reboot your server?
[18:15:52] <athomas> morning
[18:20:15] <eblot> morning (3:20am here) ;-)
[18:21:01] <eblot> someone was looking for the timezone of trac-hacks.org some hours ago.
[18:21:38] <eblot> someone = blackhex
[18:22:10] <athomas> timezone is GMT+10, australian EST
[18:22:39] <athomas> i wonder why he wanted to know
[18:24:24] <evilbulgarian> coderanger_: i dont have to restart apache just for ini change
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[18:25:01] <coderanger_> evilbulgarian: What frontend do you use?
[18:25:13] <evilbulgarian> coderanger_: python
[18:25:18] <eblot> I can't tell ;-) Maybe to track the time of the changes made on Trac DB?
[18:25:51] <coderanger_> evilbulgarian: as in mod_python?
[18:26:02] <evilbulgarian> coderanger_: its running on windows so i think so
[18:26:29] <coderanger_> For both mod_python and fcgi, a server restart can be needed to force a reparse of trac.ini
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[19:03:15] <matt_good_> coderanger_: erm, that hasn't been necessary for a while now
[19:04:25] <matt_good_> unless there's maybe there's some module that's only reading the value in __init__
[19:07:25] <athomas> i think it is still necessary
[19:08:02] <athomas> many a time, plugin upgrades do not get picked up until a server restart
[19:09:38] <matt_good_> yeah, installing/upgrading plugins will, but trac.ini is re-read as necessary at runtime
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[19:52:50] <BaconTastesGood> Is there an easy/fast way to disable all permissions for anonymous?
[19:57:44] <matt_good_> BaconTastesGood: in trac-admin "permission remove anonymous *"
[19:57:58] <BaconTastesGood> huh
[19:58:13] <BaconTastesGood> as opposed to "permission remove anonymous WIKI_VIEW"?
[19:58:19] <BaconTastesGood> like, no parameter == "remove all"?
[19:58:44] <matt_good_> * is a wildcard
[19:58:48] <matt_good_> it removes them all
[19:58:52] <BaconTastesGood> ah
[19:59:10] <BaconTastesGood> but when I tried doign "permission add anonymous *" it globbed from my filesystem and added new permissions that were filenames
[19:59:13] <BaconTastesGood> so I assumed that didn't work
[19:59:20] <matt_good_> uh, no
[19:59:32] <BaconTastesGood> I swore it did that
[19:59:39] <matt_good_> it'll work in the trac-admin interactive mode
[19:59:50] <BaconTastesGood> oh, not on the command line
[19:59:53] <matt_good_> if you do it on the command-line you need to put it in quotes
[20:00:09] <matt_good_> otherwise the shell expands it automatically
[20:00:10] <BaconTastesGood> put the * in quotes?
[20:00:32] <matt_good_> "*" or '*'
[20:01:17] <BaconTastesGood> k, thx
[20:12:20] <boorad> athomas, matt_good: anyone thought of high volume sites using memcached in front of some of the db calls ??
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[20:18:40] <smileaf> Hello.
[20:18:57] <smileaf> anyway I can disable that rxyz link creation in the wiki?
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[20:30:22] <bigethan> Wow, lotsa people
[20:31:08] <bigethan> anyone got a moment to help me with an install issue (apache setup)
[20:31:31] * bigethan is new to fedora and yum goodness
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[22:11:43] <Blackhex> hi
[22:12:56] <athomas> hi
[22:13:23] <Blackhex> athomas: do you know somethin about DoxygenPlugin and Jason Parks?
[22:14:23] <athomas> no
[22:15:43] <Blackhex> athomas: I post him an e-mail where I asked if is he still maintaining his plugin and he told me that he is not, so I asked if I could maintaint it but he didn't respond.
[22:16:27] <Blackhex> athomas: I'd like commit my multi documentation patch after some changes
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[22:21:03] <athomas> get him to send me a mail saying he's happy for you to take over, and i'll give you write access
[22:21:30] <Blackhex> ok, I'll try
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[22:56:51] <pacopablo> jeloo tracers
[23:12:50] <athomas> hey paco
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