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June 11, 2006

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[00:04:22] <whereami> i'm trying to install TracPoll from trac hacks. i ran 'python setup.py install', and added tracpoll.* = enable to trac.ini, and restarted apache, but it's not working. the plugin doesn't even show up in webadmin. the egg is in site-packages though.
[00:05:11] <alect> = enabled
[00:05:37] <whereami> yah, that's what i have.
[00:06:54] <alect> @logging
[00:06:54] <evil_twin> alect: "logging" is http://projects.edgewall.com/trac/wiki/TracLogging <-- Enable debug logging to file, ensure your environments log/ directory is writeable by your web server user, check for errors.
[00:12:44] <whereami> alect, http://rafb.net/paste/results/znExfk89.html
[00:13:24] <luks> ouch, trac 0.10 now converts commit messages like [project @ 549379] to wiki links :/
[00:19:16] <whereami> alect, the important error seems to be: ImportError: cannot import name WikiMacroBase
[00:20:19] <alect> whereami: ahm, that is a 0.10ism
[00:20:26] <alect> whereami: one moment, i'll fix it
[00:21:52] <alect> luks: you're flirting with danger using that kind of text in any trac-wiki formatted text :)
[00:22:49] <luks> tailor adds that by default to all commit messages
[00:22:59] <alect> whereami: ok, try the latest snapshot
[00:23:01] <luks> and i just upgraded trac and was a bit suprised :)
[00:23:07] <alect> luks: what's tailor?
[00:23:21] <luks> a tool to convert VCS repositories
[00:23:26] <luks> svn -> bzr in my case
[00:23:31] <alect> aah
[00:24:29] <alect> actually that won't work whereami..wait a sec'
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[00:25:02] <alect> right, try r843
[00:26:21] <whereami> alect, lol, i started getting 500 errors, you scared me.
[00:28:10] <whereami> alect, that seems to be working now, thanks!
[00:29:02] <alect> np
[00:34:01] <asmodai> alect: dude
[00:34:10] <alect> hey hey
[00:35:34] <asmodai> morning ;)
[00:36:10] <asmodai> All's well?
[00:36:17] <alect> yeah not bad
[00:36:19] <alect> you?
[00:36:35] <alect> i'm working on #1890 atm
[00:38:56] <asmodai> just woke up
[00:39:03] <asmodai> going to beat the CSS some more
[00:39:29] <asmodai> 'Cause a part of it is annoying me
[00:39:56] <asmodai> Opera 9 when I tested it had this horizontal bar and a friend at Opera using Opera 9 didn't :S
[00:40:07] <alect> heh
[00:40:14] <alect> css "standards" eh
[00:40:21] <asmodai> *grin*
[00:40:28] <asmodai> In general opera and firefox act pretty ok
[00:40:42] <alect> yeah
[00:49:08] <asmodai> mm
[00:49:13] <asmodai> interesting ticket yea
[00:50:15] <asmodai> alect: So what you have in mind to solve this?
[00:51:26] <dilinger> boorad: ping?
[00:51:58] <alect> asmodai: not sure yet...
[00:52:25] <alect> i was going to just add checks to ensure that users couldn't impersonate others
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[00:54:06] <Marlun> If theres more then one version of python installed on my computer, which version does trac use?
[00:54:08] <asmodai> alect: *nod*
[00:54:29] <asmodai> alect: That's one of the reasons you typically see: restrict account to this-or-that IP address
[00:55:14] <asmodai> alect: Another one might be to add a [logged in] or [authenticated] behind usernames in comments etc after they logged in
[00:56:01] <alect> yeah
[00:57:04] <alect> i've never been really fond of trac's authentication behaviour
[00:57:09] <alect> seems too....loose
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[01:05:21] <dilinger> anyone here have python-mysqldb installed?
[01:05:28] <dilinger> a version older than 1.2.1, that is
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[01:07:39] <dilinger> hm. in theory, i have p.e.c commit access..
[01:08:10] <dilinger> ah, there we go
[01:09:50] <alect> not i, sorry
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[01:14:21] <dilinger> what repository url should i be using? svn+ssh://dilinger@svn.edgewall.com/repos/trac/trunk ?
[01:15:07] <alect> https://
[01:15:46] <dilinger> oh.
[01:15:47] <dilinger> thanks
[01:16:01] <dilinger> and, uh, ignore my numerous ssh login attempts :)
[01:17:29] <alect> hehe
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[01:30:40] <asmodai> alect: I don't like it either
[01:30:49] <asmodai> alect: especially the .htpasswd authentication
[01:31:16] <asmodai> alect: highly annoying whereas it could just be put in the database.
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[02:24:44] <alect> tumtetum
[02:28:23] * asmodai hands alect his amavisd.conf
[02:28:24] <asmodai> KILL IT
[02:28:28] <alect> haha
[02:29:17] <alect> actually i lied before, i use clamav
[02:31:58] <asmodai> You lied?
[02:32:57] <alect> i think i said i also use amavis
[02:34:06] <asmodai> ah ok
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[04:02:47] <Blackhex> prologic: hi, are you here?
[04:13:07] <prologic> yeh
[04:13:50] <Blackhex> prologic: could you please upgrade my environment?
[04:14:00] <prologic> sure
[04:14:22] <Blackhex> prologic: and there is some permission problem that i couldn't upload attachments
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[04:28:51] <OCG> how do i setup apache to work with trac ... do i trac-admin /var/svn/project1 initenv ? or do i set that as where i want trac to create its db?
[04:29:56] <Blackhex> OCG: trac-admin path-to-database
[04:30:33] <Blackhex> path to svn repository you set only in trac.ini
[04:30:50] <OCG> ok. thats where i was confused ;]
[04:31:14] <Blackhex> but you'l be asked for it
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[05:03:32] * asmodai just fed 2 adult and 5 young swans ;)
[05:04:50] <alect> hey cool :)
[05:04:54] <alect> white swans or black ones?
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[05:16:37] <asmodai> White
[05:16:40] * asmodai took photos
[05:17:12] <Blackhex> alect: when I'll implement http://trac-hacks.org/ticket/431 could I commit it immediately or should I wait when there will be more changes?
[05:19:10] <alect> yeah go for it
[05:20:12] <Blackhex> alect: ok
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[05:29:32] <alect> blackhex: did whatsisface get back to you about the other plugin you had patches for?
[05:30:25] <Blackhex> whatisface?
[05:33:43] <Blackhex> alect: if you mean what is new about doxygen plugin, so I send another e-mail to Jason Parks as you suggest but I did't receive answer.
[05:35:12] <alect> hmm
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[06:29:45] <Blackhex> gtg, see you
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[06:47:06] <ZyX> hi
[06:48:02] <ZyX> is there a global way to change timestamp format from MM/DD/YY to DD/MM/YYYY or YYYY-MM-DD ?
[06:49:56] <ZyX> http://projects.edgewall.com/trac/wiki/TracFaq#how-do-i-change-the-format-used-for-displaying-date-and-time :)
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[07:52:38] <monsti> hi
[07:55:44] <monsti> i want my customers add bugs/requests in trac - but i dont want to give them trac access - is there a solution available for this?
[07:55:47] <monsti> e.g. by creating a 2nd page and using xmlrpc?
[07:56:04] <alect> email2trac
[07:56:07] <alect> is one
[07:56:16] <alect> you could also use xmlrpc
[07:57:10] <monsti> email2trac sounds nice
[08:05:58] <monsti> any idea how to organize testcases in trac?
[08:07:15] <monsti> we created a wiki page testcases and added a table with a list of testcases e.g. wiki:1testcase1 ... description ... wiki:testcase2 ... description
[08:07:42] <monsti> this is simple but not very scalable
[08:10:42] <prologic> use the TagsPlugin and just create a page per test case
[08:10:49] <prologic> eg: TestCases/TestCaseOne
[08:11:00] <prologic> then use [[ListTags(testcases)]] :)
[08:12:30] <monsti> tags are metatags for a wikipage?
[08:13:13] <prologic> the TagsPlugins provides a nice simple wiki category feature
[08:13:28] <prologic> you could scale up easily doing this then, don't have to fiddle with the table
[08:13:32] <monsti> ahh ok
[08:13:34] <prologic> just write up the new TestCase page
[08:13:57] <monsti> namespaces for wiki
[08:14:04] <prologic> yeah
[08:14:52] <prologic> you may also find the ChooseTemplate usefull
[08:16:41] <monsti> checking
[08:17:27] <monsti> any url?
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[08:18:11] <prologic> hold up
[08:18:36] <monsti> email2trac = 100% what i need ;)
[08:18:50] <prologic> ahh
[08:18:55] <prologic> it's on MacroBazaar
[08:19:06] <prologic> on Trac's wiki
[08:19:46] <monsti> checking
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[08:59:46] <alect> email2trac is annoying
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[10:51:26] <monsti> The following error occurred while trying to extract file(s) to the Python egg
[10:51:26] <monsti> cache:
[10:51:26] <monsti> [Errno 13] Permission denied: '/root/.python-eggs'
[10:51:31] <monsti> any idea?
[10:51:42] <monsti> gentoo uses a tracd user
[10:53:31] <alect> @plugins
[10:53:31] <evil_twin> alect: "plugins" is http://projects.edgewall.com/trac/wiki/TracPlugins
[10:59:18] <monsti> some "export" expression was missing in a gentoo start script for enviornments
[11:00:48] <monsti> is there an easy wy to create custom reports with a short description under each ticked?
[11:00:54] <monsti> ticket sorry
[11:01:14] <monsti> "custom query" offers this option
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[13:57:34] <coderanger_> alo y'alls
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[14:46:15] <boorad> dilinger: pong
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[14:55:59] <maxb> Is there a way to dump out all the HDF for a request?
[14:56:30] <maxb> I want to see if there's anything in the HDF I can use to tell whether the user is authenticated or not.
[14:57:02] <boorad> add ?hdfdump=1 to your request
[14:57:24] <maxb> excellent!
[15:02:10] <coderanger_> maxb: req.authname
[15:02:27] <maxb> No, trac.authname
[15:02:47] <coderanger_> Thats a python variable, not an hdf variable ;-)
[15:04:29] <coderanger_> If you are looking to write something new, I wouldn't make it use the hdf for things like that
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[15:05:20] <maxb> I think I'd find it pretty hard to conditionally include a part of a template without using HDF.
[15:06:20] <coderanger_> templates are okay, i just mean if you were doing it in code
[15:06:48] <coderanger_> just looking to the upcoming template switch
[15:38:06] <coderanger_> alect: ping
[15:39:29] <coderanger_> still early over there I support
[15:39:31] <coderanger_> *suppose
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[16:30:12] <maxb> Hmm.. I just tried to use AccountManagerPlugin, and changed my password - it produced duplicate entries in the htpasswd file for my user.
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[16:34:52] <coderanger_> maxb: I think there is a ticket about that
[16:35:18] <maxb> Its a pretty serious 'first impressions' bug.
[16:35:36] <maxb> Now I'm rather disturbed about letting it play with my password file.
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[16:37:26] <tat_> hello, is it possibill to download tarballs from the svn with trac ?
[16:42:07] <coderanger_> tat_: tarballs no, zipfiles yes (trunk only)
[16:42:52] <tat_> do i need a plugin to do so ?
[16:42:55] <coderanger_> No
[16:43:12] <tat_> i need to setup a trunk ?
[16:45:31] <coderanger_> I mean that the feature is only available in the current development version
[16:47:37] <tat_> is there no plugin to download tarballs from the svn :(
[16:49:52] <coderanger_> no
[16:50:11] <coderanger_> zipfiles are easier to work with, and better supported on most platforms
[16:55:57] <tat_> that's true.
[16:57:44] <tat_> i jsut installed the downlaod plugin, so i will put my tarballs there, maybe i can hack a cgi bin which makes a tarball from the last revision and link it from the wiki, this is probably the best way .
[16:58:03] <coderanger_> tat_: email alec about it
[16:58:17] <coderanger_> he used to do it as a post-commit-script
[16:58:25] <coderanger_> before Trac itself supported it
[16:58:45] <tat_> coderanger_ : do you got it's email ?
[16:59:00] <tat_> coderanger_ : or know where i can find it ?
[16:59:29] <coderanger_> http://trac-hacks.org/wiki/athomas
[16:59:44] <coderanger_> alec@trac-hacks.org
[17:00:21] <tat_> coderanger_ : and i don't wanne bug you, but you know if there is a multiLanguge plugin for trac ?
[17:00:43] <coderanger_> tat_: No, though there is a French translation
[17:03:22] <tat_> coderanger_ : i mean a multiLanguage support for the wiki, my project is documented in english and spanish and i would like to have a way of swapping in the wikki between the two languages
[17:03:37] <coderanger_> Ahh, no, though it has been suggested
[17:03:53] <coderanger_> The wiki system is not currently flexible enough to do that easily
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[17:09:09] <coderanger_> Feel free to do it though ;-)
[17:10:31] <tat_> yes features features features, i think this problem has any code hacker, the queue never ends, anyway i like trac the way it is and i think it's the best envireoment to hack free code :)
[17:12:03] <tat_> i have sero experience in python, and on top i'm bussy like hell so i think there is a very small chance that i will make that one working (0_0)(-_0)
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[18:01:31] <bnovc> how can i change the path trac thinks its at?
[18:01:43] <bnovc> i modified it in trac.ini but it still tries the old one
[18:03:41] <coderanger_> TracUriRoot
[18:05:19] <bnovc> coderanger_, how can i modify that? the only place grep finds it is in trac.db
[18:05:35] <coderanger_> You set it in the webserver config
[18:05:57] <coderanger_> either the env var TRAC_URI_ROOT, or the mod_python option TracUriRoot
[18:06:33] <bnovc> ok i'll try that, thanks
[18:08:47] <bnovc> coderanger_, SetEnv TracUriRoot "/"
[18:08:52] <coderanger_> no
[18:08:52] <bnovc> oh, TRAC_URI_ROOT
[18:08:57] <coderanger_> yeah
[18:09:31] <bnovc> SetEnv TRAC_URI_ROOT "/" .. still tries to load from /gs-trac/..stuff
[18:12:45] <bnovc> coderanger_, is there another place i should look into?
[18:13:05] <coderanger_> You restarted the server?
[18:13:16] <bnovc> yes
[18:13:21] <coderanger_> hmm
[18:13:29] <bnovc> there is no mention of TRAC_URI_ROOT in my trac instance or the trac script directory
[18:13:30] <bnovc> in any files
[18:13:55] <coderanger_> Its not generally needed, apache usually figure it out on its own
[18:14:14] <coderanger_> Can you pastebin your trac.ini?
[18:15:12] <bnovc> sure
[18:15:13] <bnovc> one second
[18:15:36] <bnovc> coderanger_, http://home.bnovc.com/trac.ini
[18:15:53] <bnovc> i'm trying to get it to load at genericselect.com
[18:16:02] <bnovc> which is redirect to http://home.bnovc.com/gs-trac
[18:17:09] <coderanger_> Try setting [trac] \n base_url = /
[18:17:14] <bnovc> k
[18:17:48] <bnovc> its set, no different
[18:19:57] <coderanger_> wait, are these two different tracs?
[18:20:06] <coderanger_> or is one proxying to the other
[18:20:29] <bnovc> coderanger_, same trac
[18:20:37] <bnovc> genericselect.com is being rewriten to home.bnovc.com
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[18:21:14] <coderanger_> can I see the vhost for this
[18:21:29] <bnovc> i didn't setup a vhost
[18:21:33] <bnovc> i used mod_rewrite
[18:22:12] <coderanger_> Thats going to confuse things greatly
[18:22:31] <coderanger_> You can't have the same trac at two different paths
[18:22:31] <bnovc> i wasn't sure how else to do it so i did that :)
[18:22:42] <bnovc> i don't care if its accessible at home.bnovc.com
[18:22:55] <coderanger_> Then you want to use a vhost ;-)
[18:23:19] <bnovc> i can't just set it to use / instead of /gs-trac ?
[18:23:47] <coderanger_> No, because after the rewrite, Trac will be very confused at the conflicting path_info and TRAC_URI_ROOT
[18:23:56] <coderanger_> I would guess there are errors in your log right now
[18:24:38] <bnovc> humph
[18:24:48] <bnovc> ok i'll google how to do a virtual host
[18:26:32] <bnovc> there is probably a way to set the DNS for the domain to go to home.bnovc.com/gs-trac
[18:26:33] <bnovc> i just didnt know how
[18:27:29] <coderanger_> No, DNS is just for resolving names to IPs
[18:27:44] <bnovc> what is the preferred way of doing this then?
[18:28:00] <bnovc> i would want the DNS to point to the same ip as home.bnovc.com and use a virtual host there?
[18:28:23] <coderanger_> yes
[18:28:37] <coderanger_> you put each domain in a vhost
[18:29:04] <coderanger_> and then apache uses the Host: header and the ServerName directive to figure out which to use for a request
[18:30:00] <bnovc> i currently just have <VirtualHost *>...everything</ so i assume that can't stay anymore
[18:30:35] <coderanger_> No, that stays
[18:30:41] <coderanger_> You just make another
[18:30:55] <coderanger_> with a different SeverName
[18:32:19] <bnovc> damn it, DNS won't update to my ip
[18:32:35] <coderanger_> How were you serving the site before?
[18:32:37] <bnovc> i think my computer is just caching
[18:32:52] <bnovc> coderanger_, it was directed to the same ip as the DNS (not home.bnovc.com) and that had an apache rewrite
[18:34:07] <bnovc> guess i have to wait 48 hours for my ISP to update my dns
[18:35:20] <coderanger_> DNS in general takes 24-48 to fully update
[18:35:45] <coderanger_> Most servers will cache entries for at least that long
[18:35:52] <bnovc> i changed genericselect.com. A to my ip versus that one
[18:35:56] * bnovc sigh
[18:36:06] <bnovc> so much waiting involved
[18:36:22] <bnovc> i suppose i could just hack trac's files to directly point to right place
[18:36:23] <bnovc> force it to
[18:38:18] <bnovc> coderanger_, is there a way i can force my computer to know the new location?
[18:38:24] <bnovc> so i can finish setting this up
[18:38:30] <coderanger_> /etc/hosts
[18:40:07] <bnovc> do i need to restart something afteward? 64.136.219.176 genericselect.com
[18:41:21] <coderanger_> No
[18:41:31] <boorad> anyone know how to include a .css file, but just for one project?
[18:41:35] <coderanger_> UNIX doesn't do the whole "restart to do everything"
[18:41:44] <bnovc> coderanger_, i meant restart some daemon
[18:41:53] <bnovc> boorad, there is a templates directory with header
[18:41:54] <coderanger_> boorad: Two options, site_css.cs
[18:41:57] <bnovc> can add <link ...?>
[18:42:05] <coderanger_> or SysCss plugin on TracHacks
[18:42:09] <boorad> site_css.cs is global, iirc
[18:42:26] <coderanger_> boorad: Its a CS temple, so it looks up the load path for it
[18:42:41] <coderanger_> if it finds it in /path/to/env/templates itl use that one
[18:42:53] <bnovc> coderanger_, ping genericselect.com should show 64.. now then, correct?
[18:42:56] <boorad> k, lemme give it a whirl - thx
[18:44:00] <coderanger_> bnovc: Yes
[18:44:09] <bnovc> well, it doesn't :(
[18:45:58] <coderanger_> bnovc: Um, what does /etc/nsswitch.conf say for hosts?
[18:46:25] <bnovc> i don't have an nsswitch.conf
[18:47:30] <coderanger_> What kind of system is this?
[18:47:45] <bnovc> OSX
[18:47:48] <coderanger_> Ohhhhh
[18:47:54] <coderanger_> That explains it
[18:47:59] <bnovc> home.bnovc.com is debian, i'm using an OSX computer
[18:48:08] <coderanger_> Apple kind of changed all that stuff
[18:48:24] <coderanger_> No easy way to alter the hosts data
[18:48:36] <bnovc> so i just have to wait to do this?
[18:48:51] <coderanger_> Yep
[18:49:08] <bnovc> arg..
[18:49:28] <bnovc> is there any way i can test setting up apache without being able to access it through the domain
[18:50:18] <coderanger_> Not really, since vhost dispatching is all based on hostnames
[18:50:34] <coderanger_> there is some way to fool it using paths, but that wouldn't help in this case
[18:55:25] <bnovc> coderanger_, could you tell me how i modify this so only that domain goes to trac? http://rafb.net/paste/results/xM6yRB40.html
[18:55:56] <coderanger_> Flip the order
[18:56:04] <coderanger_> the first vhost is also the default on
[18:56:12] <bnovc> oh ok
[18:56:50] <bnovc> well that worked...i don't know if genericselect.com is working now though
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[19:12:33] <bnovc> coderanger_, main page works with this setup but all the other pages are hosed...is this correct? http://home.bnovc.com/httpd.conf
[19:15:11] <coderanger_> Which vhost isnt working?
[19:17:11] <bnovc> coderanger_, the bottom one
[19:17:20] <bnovc> trac loads on the main page but all subdirectories die
[19:17:27] <bnovc> you can see it on genericselect.com if you add it to your hosts file
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