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June 12, 2006

[00:00:14] <alect> well, nothing broke at least:)
[00:00:21] <hdiogenes> :)
[00:00:30] <hdiogenes> any chance of running apache only as a proxy to tracd?
[00:00:33] <alect> except i'm still getting segfaults
[00:00:34] <alect> goddammit
[00:01:01] <alect> maybe, but tracd is not for production imo
[00:01:28] <hdiogenes> i really don't know
[00:01:32] <hdiogenes> if you say so... :)
[00:01:45] <alect> could try fcgi under apache i guess
[00:01:46] * alect hmms
[00:02:02] <hdiogenes> well, at least i think tracd won't segfault :)
[00:02:09] <alect> heh
[00:02:19] <alect> it might if the culprit is in svn or clearsilver
[00:02:30] <alect> which is entirely possible
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[00:02:33] <hdiogenes> yeah
[00:02:52] * alect bounces the server
[00:11:27] <hdiogenes> well, running tracd for a few hours, you can at least be sure its not modpython's fault
[00:12:32] <hdiogenes> but if you feel like upgrading svn, go ahead!
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[00:14:59] <alect> mod_python is aggravating
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[00:30:45] <hdiogenes> i'm going
[00:30:59] <hdiogenes> alect: good luck with the server
[00:31:26] <hdiogenes> alect: let's hope that python adopts trac ;)
[00:31:54] <hdiogenes> bye
[00:31:56] <alect> heh
[00:31:58] <alect> see ya
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[00:42:02] <asmodai> back
[00:42:18] <asmodai> ah
[00:42:28] * asmodai checks what hdiogenes said
[00:44:33] <asmodai> We're the only contender at the moment anyway :)
[00:45:21] <asmodai> ok
[00:45:24] <asmodai> now to realign the logo
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[01:34:43] <asmodai> alect: Watch that inbox.
[01:34:50] <alect> hokay
[01:45:46] <alect> okay updated
[01:45:49] <alect> mmm purty
[01:46:21] <imajes> is cmlenz around much?
[01:46:28] <imajes> i haven't seen him in a bit
[01:46:47] <alect> yeah he is
[01:46:52] <alect> haven't seen him since friday though
[01:49:41] <asmodai> Over the years people have been crushed, hit on the head, welded and even had molten aluminium poured over them by robots.
[01:49:48] <asmodai> alect: ta ;)
[01:50:03] <alect> damn robots
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[02:27:21] <alect> asmodai: do you want to copy the rest of the python.org menu?
[02:27:31] <alect> eg. the top-level sections ABOUT, NEWS, etc.
[02:28:31] <asmodai> alect: What do you think? A problem though is the fact that they introduce a few more divs
[02:28:56] <alect> does that cause problems?
[02:29:11] <asmodai> Not sure yet, it uses them for the layout
[02:29:15] <asmodai> Of said menu
[02:31:21] <alect> also be cool if the trac quicksearch was styled the same as python.org's
[02:32:27] <alect> just to make your life difficult :)
[02:36:00] <asmodai> alect: I looked at that, need to check again, they do an evil thing there ; )
[02:36:11] <alect> it looks evil
[02:36:15] <alect> but...SEXY
[02:36:35] <asmodai> alect: http://thedailywtf.com/default.aspx
[02:38:35] <alect> anything in particular?
[02:38:41] <alect> the outlook launching one is pretty classy :)
[02:46:38] <asmodai> alect: a little bit like this:
[02:46:39] <asmodai> http://trac.in-nomine.org:81/trac/
[02:46:40] <asmodai> ?
[02:46:50] * asmodai needs to fix the font
[02:48:13] <alect> what am i looking at?
[02:50:46] <asmodai> the button :P
[02:50:48] <asmodai> for search
[02:51:12] <asmodai> reload, updated some parts ;)
[02:53:33] <alect> aha!
[02:54:01] <alect> you should be able to lower case the S too with css
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[03:05:40] <Lukhas> hello
[03:06:08] <Lukhas> I've got a question regarding users in trac
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[03:06:31] <Lukhas> say, a user is added to .htaccess, he can log in, etc.
[03:06:46] <Lukhas> trac-admin sees him, we can alter his permissions
[03:07:02] <Lukhas> but he's not listed in the Users page of trac
[03:07:21] <Lukhas> the Admin/Users page
[03:07:55] <kaouete> a user is listed in it only if there is special permissions for him, no ?
[03:08:31] <Lukhas> he's got wiki_admin, report_admin
[03:08:48] <Lukhas> according to trac-admin and to the Permissions page
[03:09:06] <kaouete> oh ok
[03:10:00] <Lukhas> if anyone here has the slightest idea to help us... :)
[03:13:10] <asmodai> alect: http://trac.in-nomine.org:81/ and check the bottom ;)
[03:13:15] <maxb> I can't seem to find a Users or Permissions page in my trac at all. Are you using a plugin which adds them?
[03:13:37] <Lukhas> it's in the Admin section
[03:14:00] <Lukhas> no idea if it's a plugin or not, I'm a newcomer in trac
[03:14:33] <Lukhas> hmm, ther's a plugin called TracWebAdmin
[03:14:57] <Lukhas> there's, even
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[03:17:51] <alect> asmodai: haha :)
[03:17:58] <alect> hey looks cool
[03:20:00] <alect> lukhas: i have webadmin installed but it does not have a "user" section
[03:20:09] <alect> another plugin is probably adding it
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[03:20:43] <Lukhas> the other plugin listed is Trac 0.9.4
[03:21:16] <Lukhas> I'm not sure I want to click on it, it's a production server, and I don't feel like breaking everything
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[03:53:59] <prologic> bloody stupid fools ;)
[03:54:08] <prologic> someone just spammed one of my trac instances
[03:54:18] <prologic> fix that! *turns of all anonymous write access*
[04:07:25] <alect> quite annoying that
[04:09:41] <asmodai> prologic: SpamFilter
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[04:41:02] <asmodai> cboosje!
[04:41:37] <cboos> hello
[04:42:01] <asmodai> :D
[04:42:03] * asmodai pats cboos
[04:42:09] <asmodai> Sup?
[04:42:33] <cboos> asmodai: how's the python-trac progressing? (what's the URL again?)
[04:43:14] <asmodai> http://trac.in-nomine.org:81/ < current version
[04:43:21] <asmodai> this is what's at alect's site: http://python-trac.swapoff.org/
[04:44:06] <cboos> cool ;)
[04:44:14] <asmodai> Glad you like it :)
[04:44:24] <cboos> you saw my suggestion for the horizontal bar thing? Or did you use another fix?
[04:44:33] <asmodai> I learnt a great deal more about CSS by now
[04:44:40] <asmodai> cboos: you were hdiogenes?
[04:44:48] <cboos> ?
[04:44:50] <cboos> no
[04:45:04] <asmodai> cboos: What was your suggestion for the horizontal bar?
[04:45:09] <cboos> http://trac.in-nomine.org:81/trac/wiki/HowToGetRidOfTheHorizontalScrollbar
[04:45:21] <cboos> ;)
[04:45:31] <asmodai> Ah
[04:45:33] <asmodai> it was simpler
[04:45:51] <asmodai> #header had a margin: 0 -10px to make sure the logo lined out well
[04:46:00] <asmodai> I dropped that and aligned differently.
[04:46:25] <asmodai> And apparently I spotted a (potential?) bug in Opera which I forwarded through my Opera contact.
[04:46:33] <cboos> ok I see
[04:47:19] <asmodai> But you can do cute effects with buttons
[04:47:20] <cboos> in the Timeline, the links are still in red
[04:47:28] <asmodai> Yeah, still have some things to fix
[04:47:43] <asmodai> I keep emailing alect new versions whenever they work well
[04:47:48] <asmodai> }:)
[04:48:05] <asmodai> like the button CSS addition which he wanted ;)
[04:48:14] <asmodai> Going to fix the rest
[04:48:25] <cboos> I just had a look on the sf python tracker data.
[04:48:31] <cboos> It's quite messy
[04:48:38] <asmodai> That bad?
[04:48:45] <cboos> The .xml files only contain minimalistic data,
[04:48:52] <asmodai> Anything we can use?
[04:49:05] <cboos> the comments and attachments info have to be extracted from the .html file ...
[04:49:32] <asmodai> Oh yech.
[04:49:44] <cboos> yeah, we can use all the info in the .xml, but the .html will have to be parsed for getting all the rest
[04:49:46] <asmodai> That's a shitload of extra work.
[04:49:57] <asmodai> Surely there must be a better way?
[04:51:35] <asmodai> because this way you need to create an intermediate storage for the crawling data, otherwise you need to recrawl on each import, which will be fun
[04:54:15] <cboos> ah wait, I haven't read effbot.org's page thoroughly. There are already some scripts written for converting those xhtml pages to something more reusable.
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[04:54:37] <asmodai> Oh.
[04:54:43] <asmodai> Thankfully
[04:55:05] * cboos tries...
[04:58:20] <cboos> ah didn't know that, effbot already uses Trac ;)
[05:01:32] <asmodai> Hahaha
[05:01:39] <asmodai> Will be easy selling it this way :D
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[05:24:09] <alect> evening
[05:24:35] <cboos> hi alec
[05:25:26] <alect> hey hey
[05:25:45] <cboos> I've had this little TracLinks improvement idea:
[05:26:21] <cboos> when we have a [module:target] link, we currently display "module:target"
[05:26:39] <cboos> what about displaying "module target" i.e. getting rid of the ":"?
[05:27:13] <cboos> example: this is for Trac [milestone:0.9] -> "this is for Trac milestone 0.9" ("milestone 0.9" being the label)
[05:27:48] <cboos> I think this would look good for most (all?) modules.
[05:27:58] <cboos> What do you think?
[05:29:55] <asmodai> alect: ok, got one last one for today that I will sent to you in a few minutes :D
[05:30:14] * asmodai is probably hated by now *grin*
[05:34:39] <alect> yeah i think you could be right cboos
[05:35:11] <alect> actually i think we drop module: if you surround it with brackets?
[05:35:19] <alect> asmodai: heh okay
[05:35:31] <alect> upgrade my nvidia drivers and now X won't start
[05:35:35] * alect hates linux sometimes
[05:36:34] <cboos> alect: ha, you're right ;) I knew I had a strong incentive that just dropping the ":"
[05:36:45] <alect> hehe
[05:37:25] <cboos> so yes, it's actually to have "this is for Trac [milestone:0.9]" rendered as "this is for Trac milestone 0.9" instead of "this is for Trac 0.9",
[05:37:57] <cboos> because actually now you end up writing things like "this is for Trac milestone [milestone:0.9]"
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[05:41:07] <alect> i think i like it as is..
[05:41:21] <alect> plus [wiki:foo] would look very odd
[05:41:38] <alect> although all the others would be okay
[05:41:58] <alect> actually i'm not vehemently opposed :)..."milestone 0.9" would look pretty cool
[05:41:58] <cboos> yes... the wiki: would have to be an exception to this scheme.
[05:42:27] <cboos> OTOH, you can now write [foo] :)
[05:42:33] <alect> yeah :)
[05:45:00] <cboos> About the ticket comment/description for the Tracker
[05:45:11] <cboos> one alternative to dropping the wiki syntax would be to respect the line endings,
[05:45:22] <cboos> like we do for changeset messages
[05:57:02] <alect> true
[05:57:56] <alect> pity we don't have the "context" passed to the formatter yet
[05:58:19] <cboos> how would that help here?
[05:58:22] <cboos> (just curious)
[05:59:18] * cboos 's going through some Tracker description/comments right now
[06:00:00] <alect> well if it were pluggable as well, the formatter could change the formatting for tickets only
[06:00:27] <alect> how does it work with changesets? special-cased?
[06:00:45] <cboos> well, it's a flag in wiki_to_html
[06:01:00] <alect> ah
[06:01:14] <cboos> and it's not configurable for changesets, but could easily be done so for tickets
[06:02:09] <cboos> as usual, the most difficult/controversial thing there will be the choice of the option name ;)
[06:02:45] <cboos> lots of &amp;gt; stuff in comments ... double HTML escape ...
[06:03:06] <alect> :\
[06:03:23] <cboos> actually I've yet to come across a simple &gt; ;)
[06:03:35] <asmodai> Reminds me of spam bots
[06:03:48] <asmodai> Replacing some things with unicode entities
[06:06:40] <cboos> another thing that would help make those comments render well using our wiki syntax is if we would start lists even if the bullet/minus is on the first column...
[06:06:59] <cboos> that convention seems to be used quite a lot, at least on the excerpt I'm examining now
[06:07:44] <cboos> I already suggested doing that, btw, see last comments on #126. I don't see a problem with doing that...
[06:08:20] <cboos> err, s/126/124/ actually
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[06:14:33] <cboos> ... then you have the citation syntax, which comes handy most of the time, as they're citing comments at times... except when you have stuff like: >>> print "some python code". But then, you'll simply have ||| print "some python code", not sure that would be that annoying ...
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[06:22:18] <cboos> bbl
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[06:26:19] <tat_> how to install a post commit hook for svn, i find a lot of examples but nonone sayes where to save the file , how to call it or which confgig gile to open ???
[06:27:03] <kaouete> you should read the svn doc
[06:27:10] <kaouete> there is a chapter about hooks
[06:27:38] <maxb> http://svnbook.red-bean.com/
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[06:44:26] <imajes> hey maxb
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[07:41:28] <TheSquire> hello all
[07:44:15] <TheSquire> this might be a stupid question, but I get a "file contains no section headers" internal error
[07:44:22] <TheSquire> virtual host setup
[07:44:27] <TheSquire> it prints my password file
[07:44:52] <TheSquire> NameVirtualHost *
[07:44:52] <TheSquire> <VirtualHost *>
[07:44:52] <TheSquire> ServerAdmin webmaster@localhost
[07:44:52] <TheSquire> ErrorLog /var/log/apache2/error.log
[07:44:52] <TheSquire> # Possible values include: debug, info, notice, warn, error, crit,
[07:44:54] <TheSquire> # alert, emerg.
[07:44:56] <TheSquire> LogLevel warn
[07:44:58] <TheSquire> CustomLog /var/log/apache2/access.log combined
[07:45:00] <TheSquire> ServerSignature On
[07:45:02] <TheSquire> <Location />
[07:45:04] <TheSquire> SetHandler mod_python
[07:45:06] <TheSquire> PythonHandler trac.web.modpython_frontend
[07:45:08] <TheSquire> PythonOption TracEnvParentDir /var/trac/
[07:45:10] <TheSquire> PythonOption TracUriRoot /
[07:45:12] <TheSquire> </Location>
[07:45:14] <TheSquire> <Location /TestProject/login>
[07:45:16] <TheSquire> AuthType Basic
[07:45:18] <TheSquire> AuthName "Trac"
[07:45:18] <alect> uh
[07:45:20] <TheSquire> AuthUserFile /etc/apache2/dav_svn.passwd
[07:45:21] <alect> @paste
[07:45:21] <evil_twin> alect: "paste" is http://trac.pastebin.com <- paste your text here
[07:45:24] <TheSquire> Require valid-user
[07:45:26] <TheSquire> </Location>
[07:45:28] <TheSquire> </VirtualHost>
[07:45:30] <TheSquire> ah
[07:45:32] <TheSquire> sorry about that
[07:45:34] <TheSquire> yeah sorry
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[07:46:03] <TheSquire> http://trac.pastebin.com/704382
[07:46:10] <TheSquire> not that it makes a difference now...
[07:46:49] <TheSquire> I have the login location hardcoded
[07:46:56] <TheSquire> it was regex before
[07:47:42] <TheSquire> changed that now
[07:47:44] <TheSquire> any ideas?
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[07:53:36] <alect> no not really, not if your password file is showing up
[07:56:49] <ftoledo> hi all i can use trac with subtree , im change the repository_dir option in the ini file (FAQ 2.6), but raise an error :
[07:57:43] <ftoledo> (sorry shold be say i can NOT use)
[07:57:46] <ftoledo> the error:
[07:57:52] <ftoledo> "Can't open file '/var/lib/svnroot/educacion/format': No such file or directory", 2
[07:58:11] <alect> awhat version of trac?
[07:58:17] <ftoledo> my repo is in /var/lib/svnroot and /educacion is a path of my project
[07:58:46] <ftoledo> 0.81 in debian stable
[07:58:55] <alect> 0.8 doesn't spport subtrees
[07:59:12] <TheSquire> alect, sorry, my bad. wrong line in trac.ini, plus old cookies
[07:59:24] <alect> np
[07:59:26] <TheSquire> alect, removed bad line and deleted cookies, and it worked
[07:59:42] <ftoledo> alect: ohh! i think that will upgrade them
[07:59:49] <ftoledo> alect: thanks you
[08:01:18] <alect> np
[08:01:22] <ftoledo> will trac support for remote repo's?
[08:02:39] <alect> not yet
[08:02:48] <alect> it's a limitation of the svn python bindings
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[08:04:47] <ftoledo> alect: ok .thanks again
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[08:20:01] <hacim> how do I create components? I can see where I assign tickets to components, but I can't find where I edit them
[08:20:17] <pacopablo> hacim: trac-admin
[08:20:20] <pacopablo> or the webadmin plugin
[08:20:46] <hacim> oh huh, it only can happen there? thats odd..
[08:21:27] <pacopablo> well, you can install the webadmin plugin, and that will do it
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[08:22:34] <hacim> i'll do that, thanks
[08:23:18] <ftoledo> hi agaim
[08:23:27] <hacim> pacopablo: I notice that there is no webadmin plugin available for 0.9.5
[08:23:39] <ftoledo> i upgrade to trac 0.9.5 and repository_path using subtree work fine!
[08:23:50] <pacopablo> hacim: yeah there is :)
[08:23:54] <pacopablo> @faq webadmin
[08:23:54] <evil_twin> pacopablo: "webadmin" is http://projects.edgewall.com/trac/wiki/WebAdmin
[08:24:23] <pacopablo> just download the one for 0.9.3
[08:25:01] <pacopablo> I believe that a checkout of trunk will work fine in 0.9.5 too.
[08:25:01] <alect> ftoledo: was there any doubt? :P
[08:25:02] <hacim> thanks
[08:25:24] <pacopablo> morning alect. you're up late :)
[08:25:38] <alect> watching the football!!!
[08:25:42] <alect> AUSSIE AUSSIE AUSSIE!
[08:25:53] <ftoledo> :) now, i wan to setup trac using authz , i have a apache location /svn using mod_dav_svn
[08:26:07] <ftoledo> i now setup a /trac location but i get a login error
[08:26:36] <pacopablo> hehe
[08:26:50] <ftoledo> and the apache logs say:
[08:26:50] <ftoledo> The server is misconfigured: either an SVNPath or SVNParentPath directive is required to specify the location of this resource's repository. [500, #190000], referer: http://svn.pressenter.com.ar/cgi-bin/trac.cgi/settings
[08:27:01] <pacopablo> ftoledo: pastebin your apache config
[08:27:07] <pacopablo> @faw pastebin
[08:27:07] <evil_twin> pacopablo: Error: "faw" is not a valid command.
[08:27:19] <pacopablo> oh, shutup evil_twin, you should know what I mean
[08:27:23] <pacopablo> @faq pastebin
[08:27:23] <evil_twin> pacopablo: "pastebin" is http://trac.pastebin.com
[08:27:28] <alect> heh
[08:27:34] * pacopablo slaps evil_twin upside the head
[08:27:47] <alect> stupid bot
[08:28:28] <pacopablo> yeah
[08:28:36] <pacopablo> I should put some smarts into him sometime
[08:30:34] <ftoledo> here is my vhost http://trac.pastebin.com/704452
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[08:34:17] <ftoledo> i thin that my error is in the localtion /trac
[08:35:37] <pacopablo> you should be able to drop the AuthzSVNAccessFile /etc/dav_svn.authz from the trac.cgi/login section
[08:35:59] <pacopablo> also, your /trac alias should point to cgi-bin/trac.cgi
[08:36:22] <pacopablo> unless you want people to have to type in http://mydomain.com/cgi-bin/trac.cgi
[08:36:26] <imajes> hmm
[08:36:40] <pacopablo> also, I would highly suggest mod_python or fastcgi
[08:41:02] <ftoledo> perfect i can login now
[08:41:27] <ftoledo> i have set various security levels for some users unden my subtree
[08:41:51] <ftoledo> how to trac use that levels? its posibble?
[08:41:55] <ftoledo> sorry my english
[08:41:59] <ftoledo> im speak spanish
[08:42:14] <ftoledo> unden=under
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[08:49:26] <sudoer> is there a script to have trac notify people via im when code is committed?
[08:51:10] <ftoledo> sudoer: i think that you must use subversion-tools , thay have hooks to send mails when commit
[08:51:46] <ftoledo> i use a post-commit hook
[08:52:00] <ftoledo> REPOS="$1"
[08:52:01] <ftoledo> REV="$2"
[08:52:01] <ftoledo> /usr/lib/subversion/hook-scripts/commit-email.pl "$REPOS" "$REV" -h pressenter.com.ar -s "SVN Pressenter" commits@pressenter.com.ar
[08:54:36] <ftoledo> i send the commits to mailinglist for developers
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[09:29:48] <alect> morning paco
[09:29:52] <alect> err coderanger
[09:32:39] <coderanger_> heh, gmorn
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[09:38:49] <pacopablo> morning coderanger_
[09:39:05] <coderanger_> glad to see youre still alive
[09:39:09] <pacopablo> how's the multi-project support going?
[09:39:15] <pacopablo> heh, i was on vacation for a week
[09:39:29] <pacopablo> with no intarweb access :)
[09:39:40] <coderanger_> haven't started it yet, still waiting to see if anyone has idea/comments about it
[09:39:49] <coderanger_> figured I would give people a day or two
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[09:46:55] <pacopablo> well, I'll probably have some questions :)
[09:47:01] <pacopablo> haven't had time to read the wiki page yet, though
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[09:50:02] <coderanger_> There isn't much there
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[09:52:12] <coderanger_> I have to convince them to replace my laptops HD
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