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June 18, 2006

[00:38:49] <prologic> hmm
[00:38:52] <prologic> anyone still around ?
[00:39:09] <prologic> I've been meaning to clear something up with the rpc plugin
[00:39:43] <prologic> how do you authenticate ? (obviously you don't want to give xml privelges to anonymous, for fear someone would write a script to spam trac websites via xmlrpc) :)
[00:44:52] <coderanger> prologic: the /login/xmlrpc path
[00:45:07] <prologic> right
[00:45:14] <prologic> but how do you specify a user/pass ?
[00:46:00] <coderanger> are you using xmlrpclib?
[00:46:08] <prologic> yeap
[00:46:17] <prologic> using the examples right off the xmlrpcplugin page
[00:46:25] <coderanger> http://username:pass@server/login/xmlrp
[00:46:39] <prologic> hmm okay
[00:46:40] <coderanger> Look at how the HackInstall plugin works
[00:46:42] <prologic> lemme try that
[00:50:01] <prologic> hmm
[00:50:05] <prologic> I still get forbidden
[00:50:15] <prologic> will it work with the acctmgr plugin ?
[00:50:18] <prologic> form-based logins
[00:50:48] <coderanger> No
[00:51:15] <prologic> oh
[00:51:19] <coderanger> You need to setup HTTP auth for at least that path
[00:51:31] <prologic> okay
[00:51:57] <coderanger> XML-RPC uses HTTP as the transport level protocol, so any restrictions placed at that level will apply
[00:52:36] <prologic> k
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[02:16:17] <paolo_> Hi, is there a way to add comments in a wiki page?
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[05:15:40] <nl> Hi, I'm setting trac up on gentoo, just one project : trac.project.com, and I'm struggling (relatively new to trac, and very new to gentoo). Can someone give me a hand ?
[05:18:46] <nl> actually, my problem is mostly with setting up the virtual host for trac.
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[05:21:36] <nl> Can anyone help me setup a virtualhost for my trac project ? (trac server works fine - just need to setup apache)
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[05:37:58] <nl> anyone here ?
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[05:44:36] <nl> I'm seeing a 403 in apache when trying to access my trac. Can someone please give me a little help ?
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[06:42:54] <nl> trac + mod_python -> is it a good idea ? I heard it's still experimental
[06:45:01] <Blackhex> nl: i was always running trac via mod_python and didn't experience any problems
[06:45:37] <nl> Blackhex: thanks. I can't seem to get it to work with cgi or fcgi so I'm going to try that.
[06:48:36] * LarstiQ has been using mod_python with trac for a couple of years now
[06:52:11] <nl> LarstiQ: well I guess I'll have to go that way then. Can anyone point to a good howto for apache2, mod_python and trac-0.9.5
[06:53:55] <LarstiQ> nl: http://projects.edgewall.com/trac/wiki/TracModPython
[06:56:10] <nl> thanks$
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[07:30:48] <sam`> a little bug in the wiki parser
[07:31:25] <sam`> any ! before a style-termination markup makes the parser ignore it
[07:31:57] <sam`> for example, ''Hello !'' makes Hello '' in italic, not Hello !
[07:32:12] <sam`> inserting a space between the ! and the ' makes it work
[07:36:12] <jborg> sam`, That's not a bug it's a feature. Otherwise it would be impossible to write Hello '' in italic
[07:36:23] <sam`> oh.
[07:36:23] <sam`> ok :)
[07:36:40] <sam`> this should be specified in the WikiFormatting page, i guess
[07:36:47] <jborg> it is :)
[07:38:05] <jborg> Exclamation marks can be used to escape almost all wiki formatting commands. The WikiFormatting page only mentions wiki links though
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[09:44:32] <luks> hmm, a new style of trac spam? http://trac-hacks.org/ticket/70
[09:44:38] <luks> look at the last comment
[09:44:45] <luks> {{{
[09:44:47] <luks> #!html
[09:44:48] <luks> <div style="overflow:auto; height: 1px;">
[09:44:50] <luks> ...
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[10:19:47] <mitsuhiko> luks: that's an old trick
[10:20:04] <luks> i've never seen it with #!html
[10:20:09] <mitsuhiko> i'm running trac antispam with the moin filters and that fixes those problems
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[10:32:13] <cubetto> have seen this?
[10:32:15] <cubetto> Traceback (most recent call last):
[10:32:15] <cubetto> File "/usr/bin/trac-admin", line 35, in ?
[10:32:15] <cubetto> from trac import sync
[10:32:15] <cubetto> File "/usr/lib/python2.2/site-packages/trac/sync.py", line 22, in ?
[10:32:17] <cubetto> from svn import core, fs, delta, repos
[10:32:43] <coderanger> @pastebin
[10:32:43] <evil_twin> coderanger: "pastebin" is http://trac.pastebin.com
[10:33:42] <cubetto> http://trac.pastebin.com/716797
[10:33:45] <cubetto> sorry
[10:38:17] <coderanger> Ugh, trac-hacks got spammed
[10:39:21] <coderanger> And a recent trunk change borked TicketDelete
[10:43:47] <coderanger> cubetto: It means you don't have the subversion bindings installed
[10:44:07] <cubetto> thanks coderanger, i'm looking into it
[10:53:42] <cubetto> i believe i do have the bindings installed
[10:53:49] <cubetto> i'm not sure how can i check that
[10:53:55] <coderanger> run python
[10:53:58] <cubetto> i have centOS
[10:53:59] <coderanger> type "import svn"
[10:54:14] <cubetto> no module named svn
[10:54:15] <cubetto> : )
[10:54:22] <coderanger> nope
[10:54:44] <cubetto> ok, so its nots the swig the binding
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[10:54:55] <coderanger> no, those are the right bindings
[10:55:12] <cubetto> i have lots of swig files
[10:55:18] <cubetto> maybe its a config option
[10:55:22] <cubetto> to enable them
[10:55:59] <cubetto> to sum it up: i installed trac using yum
[10:56:09] <cubetto> i run centos 4, and subversion is running ok
[10:56:35] <cubetto> supposedly yum installs all needed dependencies
[10:56:47] <cubetto> maybe python isnt run with the svn module?
[10:56:53] <coderanger> maybe
[10:57:00] <coderanger> try yum install subversion-python
[10:58:06] <cubetto> Cannot find a package matching subversion-python
[10:58:14] <cubetto> using dags and dries
[10:59:48] <coderanger> dunno
[10:59:55] <coderanger> It says it should just work
[11:00:11] <coderanger> I haven't used a RH-related distro in a while
[11:02:25] <cubetto> how would i manually config python to use svn module?
[11:02:37] <cubetto> is there a conf file?
[11:02:48] <cubetto> or should i recompile python?
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[11:07:19] <coderanger> no, it means that the subversion RPM didn't install the module
[11:07:30] <coderanger> ls /usr/lib/python2.*/site-packages
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[11:16:27] <cubetto> its not here
[11:16:41] <cubetto> some websites say in redhat it sometimes get installed in
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[11:17:49] <cubetto> sorry if i said something twice
[11:17:57] <cubetto> this irc client kinda blocked
[11:18:06] <cubetto> now i cant find svn-python anywhere
[11:18:20] <cubetto> is there a way to install it independently?
[11:26:40] <coderanger> I dont really know, with Gentoo is installed as part of the subversion package
[11:28:06] <jfalvarez> hi :), just a question, tarc doesnt create an rss feed like mediawiki for recent changes ?
[11:28:34] <coderanger> jfalvarez: It does
[11:28:53] <jfalvarez> really ? k
[11:28:58] <coderanger> http://projects.edgewall.com/trac/wiki/TracRss
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[11:36:25] <coderanger> any devs on?
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[11:47:21] <tuxipuxi> anybody with p.e.c WIKI_ADMIN prevs here?
[11:53:03] <coderanger> Anyone having problems where the current trunk doesn't see .eggs in the plugins folder unless you explicitly enable them?
[12:04:17] <tuxipuxi> coderanger: i guess i have.. tested the xmlrpc plugin and had to enable it
[12:04:43] <tuxipuxi> btw do you know of any plugin/tool which relies on the xmlrpc plugin?
[12:04:47] <cubetto> hi coderanger
[12:05:01] <cubetto> i got a subversion-python binding
[12:05:13] <cubetto> but i cant install it cos it requires some libraries
[12:05:17] <coderanger> tuxipuxi: Trac-hacks does
[12:05:24] <cubetto> now i don't know exactly how to install this libraries
[12:05:37] <coderanger> and HackInstall uses the trac-hacks API
[12:05:49] <cubetto> one of them is libdb-4.2.so
[12:06:16] <cubetto> i'm just lost at finding a source for this
[12:06:22] <coderanger> cubetto: Like I said, I don't do RPMs
[12:06:28] <tuxipuxi> coderanger: for what?
[12:06:40] <cubetto> yep, sorry coderanger
[12:06:44] <cubetto> thanks anways
[12:07:35] <coderanger> cubetto: Ask on the ML, you have a better chance of finding someone who has done this on there
[12:07:42] <coderanger> tuxipuxi: Which one do you mean
[12:08:02] <tuxipuxi> coderanger: ah you mean "trac-hacks known" ok
[12:08:29] <coderanger> huh?
[12:09:25] <tuxipuxi> i wondered if you may know some tools which use the xmlrpc api from the top of your head because going through the whole list on trac-hacks is annoying
[12:09:57] <coderanger> I don't know of any other than the trac-hacks plugin that offer a remote API
[12:17:22] <tuxipuxi> ah
[12:22:24] <cubetto> hi again, got the binding now i get http://trac.pastebin.com/716999
[12:30:58] <coderanger> alect: When you get to it, the 0.10 version of TicketDelete should work now
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[12:44:09] <moisei> hello!
[12:44:44] <moisei> I am looking for the funny guy who told me he managed to use trac with existing large repository
[12:45:01] <moisei> is he still around?
[12:45:29] <coderanger> matt is probably who you mean
[12:45:40] <coderanger> though there are many people who use Trac with large repos
[12:46:07] <moisei> yes!
[12:46:08] <moisei> matt
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[12:46:10] <moisei> thanks!
[12:46:35] <moisei> I have a question because I probably miss some point
[12:46:52] <moisei> I ran the initenv on my repo and of course it stuck forever
[12:46:56] <[ArGroup]Seth> Hi guys - quick question. I'm running trac with tracd right now, and whenever I go to the login page, it doesn't work
[12:47:08] <[ArGroup]Seth> The browser returns a dropped connection error
[12:47:13] <moisei> now I found a time to trace it down and I've found it runs svn diff between each two revisions
[12:47:20] <[ArGroup]Seth> Any idea why that is?
[12:47:59] <moisei> so could anybody explain me how trac could even work on the large repositories? doing such a diff will take forever.
[12:48:18] <moisei> our code base is about 10M LOC.
[12:48:48] <moisei> mat|work ?
[12:49:31] <moisei> anybody else?
[12:51:11] <coderanger> moisei: It will work, itl just take a while, the whole idea of the cache is that it only does that once
[12:52:01] <coderanger> How long did you leave it running?
[12:52:09] <moisei> coderanger - did you ever run diff on 20.000 files?
[12:52:31] <coderanger> moisei: Yes, quite ofter recently in fact
[12:52:45] <coderanger> Over a bad NFS link at that
[12:52:57] <moisei> coderanger - it does not matter for how long i leave it running. it still getting the diff on the same revision
[12:52:58] <coderanger> takes about 36 hours to run through 100GB of file
[12:53:46] <moisei> :)
[12:53:56] <moisei> 36 hour - per 100 GB?
[12:54:44] <moisei> coderanger - i have two revisions when I imported the old branches from sourcesafe into subversion.
[12:55:10] <moisei> this is about 100.000 files added in one revision.
[12:55:15] <coderanger> Somewhere around that, this was also on a pretty fast machine (3GHz HT)
[12:55:34] <moisei> how long do you think it will take to build the diff and have it cached by trac?
[12:55:43] <moisei> coderanger - do your bet
[12:55:51] <moisei> the machine is good.
[12:56:09] <coderanger> I would start it before leaving friday, and check back monday morning
[12:57:25] * coderanger -> errands
[12:57:30] <moisei> coderanger - this is definitely the case but only in case of the monday morning next year
[12:57:34] <coderanger> hopefull alec will be awake when I get back
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[12:59:05] <moisei> coderanger - no my question come - is there any way to disable this funny indexing?
[12:59:39] <moisei> coderanger - i am not interesting in the indexing of my code. could I disable it somehow?
[13:00:04] <LarstiQ> if you dont cache it, it will run more often?
[13:00:12] <asmodai> ok
[13:00:14] <asmodai> this is weird
[13:00:25] * asmodai wonders why he is spammed even with SpamFilter active
[13:00:25] <coderanger> Not that know of, though in trunk you can swap out the VCS backend completely, so you could make a non-caching one probably
[13:00:38] <coderanger> asmodai: Because its not very good yet?
[13:01:19] <asmodai> coderanger: I even added one of the hostnames of the spam urls to the BadContent, thought that ought to help =\
[13:01:32] <moisei> coderanger - what if i do following: move my rpo aside and create an empty one in the same folder. then I run init env. and then i put my repo back?
[13:01:49] <coderanger> It caches on the fly
[13:02:05] <moisei> coderanger - what do u mean?
[13:02:16] <asmodai> Crap, how on eart does one clean up ticket comment spam anyway
[13:02:22] <coderanger> It will just rebuild the cache the next time it sees the repo
[13:02:26] <coderanger> asmodai: TicketDelete
[13:02:55] <asmodai> Come again?
[13:02:58] <moisei> coderanger - in the background? or it will be freezed?
[13:03:10] <coderanger> moisei: No idea
[13:03:25] <coderanger> But it would take just as long as doing it at the start
[13:03:29] <coderanger> its the same cacher
[13:03:38] <asmodai> A plugin.
[13:03:42] <asmodai> mmm
[13:03:48] <moisei> ok... so it will freeze the entire application i guess
[13:04:25] <moisei> coderanger - can i hack it and tell do not cache anything before revision X ?
[13:04:37] <coderanger> moisei: Go look at the code
[13:04:59] <coderanger> asmodai: Its even compatible with trunk as of 20 minutes ago :)
[13:05:38] <coderanger> moisei: You clearly need a very non-standard setup, you are going to have to hack something together that meets your needs
[13:06:26] <asmodai> coderanger: erhm, does that allow *comment* deletion or only full ticket deletion?
[13:06:46] <coderanger> asmodai: It supports change delete
[13:06:50] <asmodai> ah
[13:06:53] <coderanger> I really need to rename it
[13:06:59] <coderanger> Every single person asks that ;-)
[13:07:10] <asmodai> No, the page on trac-hacks is unclear.
[13:07:18] <asmodai> Also, bdist_egg gives me three eggs
[13:07:23] <asmodai> 1 which I can discard
[13:07:25] <asmodai> since I don't use 2.3
[13:07:29] <asmodai> but then I have 0.1 and -dev
[13:07:44] <asmodai> Making me go: err?
[13:07:50] <coderanger> 0.1 == Trac 0.1
[13:07:52] <coderanger> dev == trunk
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[13:08:00] <coderanger> er, 0.1 == Trac 0.9
[13:08:19] <asmodai> Oh, I thought that was what the 0.9 and 0.10 dirs in the svn repo were for
[13:08:25] <coderanger> they are
[13:08:42] <coderanger> 0.9 should build TracTicketDelete-0.1
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[13:08:54] <coderanger> 0.10 should build TracTicketDelete-dev
[13:09:24] <coderanger> what did you run exactly?
[13:09:34] <asmodai> being in 0.10 and running its setup.py with build and bdist_egg I got three eggs
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[13:10:32] <coderanger> I only get one
[13:10:59] <coderanger> dist/TracTicketDelete-dev-py2.4.egg
[13:11:19] <asmodai> (/home/asmodai/ticket-delete/0.10)
[13:11:19] <asmodai> [5:09] [root@tendra] (510) {0} # ls dist
[13:11:19] <asmodai> .svn TicketDelete-0.1-py2.4.egg
[13:11:20] <asmodai> TicketDelete-0.1-py2.3.egg TracTicketDelete-dev-py2.4.egg
[13:11:45] <coderanger> Looks like youve built the plugin befor
[13:11:51] <asmodai> No I didn't.
[13:11:58] <asmodai> I just fetched the source.
[13:12:00] <coderanger> hmm
[13:12:12] <asmodai> Until 15 minutes ago I didn't even know it existed.
[13:12:35] * asmodai goes to take a shower and will deal with this all tomorrow.
[13:12:52] <coderanger> Aha, looks like I had included pre-built versions a while ago
[13:15:53] <coderanger> dunno why they didn't show up in my checkout at first
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[14:34:42] <tuxipuxi> anybody with p.e.c WIKI_ADMIN prevs here?
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[14:54:00] <wkornew> hi, how can I get the username from within the query.cs template? what is the field that stores the username?
[14:56:14] <hacim> is there a way i can get something like a google calendar ical feed into the wiki
[14:56:15] <hacim> ?
[14:56:42] <Moof> hacim: you can embed google calendars into the wiki
[14:56:49] <Moof> the standard way
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[14:57:09] <hacim> Moof: i guess I dont know "the standard way" :) how do i do it?
[14:57:48] <Moof> ok, go to google calendar
[14:57:58] <hacim> ok
[14:58:17] <Moof> click on the little arow next to the calendar you want to share
[14:58:30] <Moof> and select "Calendar settings
[14:58:45] <Moof> click on one of the HTML buttons
[14:58:59] <Moof> and there's a configuration utility that'll generate the HTML for you
[14:59:23] <hacim> use the HTML, not the XML or ical buttons?
[14:59:39] <Moof> yup
[14:59:46] <hacim> nice
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[15:00:59] <Moof> it wont' be integrated into the timeline, but I suspect that's nto what your'e after
[15:01:21] <hacim> Moof: hmm, how do I "share" it to my trac wiki? Its a private calendar
[15:01:40] <Moof> use the private address
[15:01:43] <hacim> naw, I just want to put it on the front page of the wiki to have the events on the main page
[15:02:15] <Moof> but if you want to make it public, then look at the options in "share this calendar"
[15:03:02] <hacim> got it
[15:03:10] <hacim> then I need to specify in the wiki that this is HTML
[15:03:43] <hacim> by putting the google link all in {{{
[15:03:44] <hacim> #!html
[15:04:16] <hacim> hmm, its not showing up
[15:04:37] <coderanger> hacim: What exactly are you trying to do
[15:04:41] <coderanger> Just link to it?
[15:04:51] <coderanger> Or include it in some kind of formatted way
[15:04:56] <hacim> coderanger: I'm trying to get it to display on the wiki
[15:05:11] <coderanger> So you want the entries inlined on the page?
[15:05:36] <hacim> google gave me this HTML: <iframe src="http://www.google.com/calendar/embed?src=6mtigvh3ffijakhsrvbdp3iok%40group.calendar.google.com&title=Eggplant%20calendar&height=614" style="border-width:0 " width="480" frameborder="0" height="614"></iframe>
[15:05:46] <coderanger> You cant do that
[15:05:49] <hacim> (i've changed the private link)
[15:06:10] <coderanger> Trac filters html its given, and I don't think it passes iframes
[15:06:19] <hacim> hm
[15:06:22] <coderanger> one sec
[15:06:58] <coderanger> 0.9.5?
[15:07:02] <hacim> 0.10
[15:07:37] <coderanger> http://projects.edgewall.com/trac/browser/trunk/trac/util/markup.py#L183
[15:07:43] <hacim> well, from cvs (the one dilinger packaged which is 0.9.99+0.10svn20060610-1)
[15:07:52] <coderanger> <iframe /> tags will be sanitized
[15:08:44] <hacim> so I could add iframe to the safe list to have it work?
[15:09:25] <hacim> this is a private wiki, so I'm not concerned about the people who have access doing bad things
[15:10:36] <coderanger> You will need to make a macro I think
[15:12:14] <hacim> if I add iframe to markup.py it works
[15:12:33] <coderanger> Yes, but that change will be removed the next time you svn up
[15:12:54] <hacim> yeah
[15:13:44] <hacim> i've not looked into making macros yet, I hope its not very difficult
[15:14:14] <coderanger> Its not
[15:16:32] <hacim> maybe a plugin is better because they can "directly access the HTTP request"?
[15:17:13] <coderanger> You don't need the request though
[15:18:48] <hacim> ok, so all I need to do is figure out how to pull an HTML page in python and return that
[15:21:01] <coderanger> I think there may already be one that does that on the macro bazaar
[15:23:02] <hacim> huh, maybe the include macro would do it -- "Inserts the output of an external URL."
[15:23:24] <coderanger> yeah
[15:27:32] <hacim> hrm, the include macro chokes on the URL with a "list index out of range", maybe because of the query string
[15:28:34] <coderanger> It may have also not been updated for 0.10
[15:29:00] <hacim> yeah i think not
[15:29:05] <hacim> because including just http://google.com fails
[15:30:42] <hacim> if I add ", None" it works: [[Include(http://google.com/, None)]]
[15:32:02] <hacim> but it doesn't load the calendar, hrm
[15:34:22] <coderanger> anything in the log?
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[15:42:56] <hacim> no, there isn't
[15:43:16] <hacim> I tried the RSSget macro, but thats only RSS2 (no xml, or atom)
[15:43:48] <coderanger> looks like you may have to DIY ;-)
[15:43:58] <hacim> i guess so :P
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[16:09:26] <tuxipuxi> alect: you there?
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[16:19:03] <coderanger> tuxipuxi: Its still early over there
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[16:20:23] <tuxipuxi> ah :)
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