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<ranq> |
asmodai: btw is there "timeline" equivalent on jira? |
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<asmodai> |
ranq: Not sure to be honest. |
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<asmodai> |
eh |
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<otaku42> |
the topic should be updated in regards of the latest version (which is 0.9.6, at least that's what |
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<otaku42> |
erm |
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<otaku42> |
... what http://projects.edgewall.com/trac/milestone/0.9.6 says |
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<otaku42> |
:) |
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<asmodai> |
this is fun |
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<asmodai> |
Seems as if the plugin cannot register itself |
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<asmodai> |
ok, strange, it *is* in my $TRAC/plugins |
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<asmodai> |
Yet I need to add webadmin.* = enabled to trac.ini |
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<otaku42> |
and maybe http://projects.edgewall.com/trac/wiki/TracDownload should also be updated regarding 0.9.6 |
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<asmodai> |
Which seems to contradict the text on the wiki page: http://projects.edgewall.com/trac/wiki/WebAdmin |
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<asmodai> |
And the same applies for TicketDelete |
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<asmodai> |
needed to add ticketdelete.* = enabled |
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<asmodai> |
hmm |
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<asmodai> |
this might also explain my spamfilter issue |
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<otaku42> |
asmodai: spamfilter issues? |
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<asmodai> |
I have to enabled each of my plugins in trac.ini |
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<asmodai> |
AFAIK if they're in $TRAC/plugins they should be enabled by default |
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<otaku42> |
asmodai: afaik that behaviour (explicitly enabling plugins that you want to use) was already and still is intended, but i could be wrong |
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<asmodai> |
otaku42: http://projects.edgewall.com/trac/wiki/WebAdmin#EnablingthePlugin |
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<asmodai> |
ok |
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<asmodai> |
so how on earth does one enabled the SpamFilter plugin? |
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<asmodai> |
enable |
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<asmodai> |
Mmm, unless it sees i have TRAC_ADMIN and allows me to spam |
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<asmodai> |
ah, tracspamfilter.* and yes as TRAC_ADMIN you can spam |
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<ajt> |
Good morning all, will trac-webadmin become part of trac in 0.10? |
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<ajt> |
ok i just answered my own question |
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<ajt> |
My next question is there a way got get trac-webadmin for 0.9.5? |
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<wkornew> |
hi, I need help with the query template. I'd like to retrieve the current user's login name from within query.cs, but I don't know how to do it. can anybody help, pretty please? :)) |
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<maxb> |
wkornew: trac.authname, I think. |
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<wkornew> |
yeah! :)) |
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<wkornew> |
thanks |
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<wkornew> |
maxb: do you know how I can set the default page after I login? it always goes to "/wiki". I'm using DBAuth |
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<wkornew> |
I disabled the wiki |
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<maxb> |
I think I saw someone saying you could set that in conf/trac.ini |
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<maxb> |
aha: http://projects.edgewall.com/trac/wiki/TracIni [trac]default_handler |
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<wkornew> |
I set it to TimelineModule |
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<wkornew> |
maybe it's the wrong name? |
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<wkornew> |
or maybe DBAuth has it fixed to "/wiki"... |
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<maxb> |
peek into the DBAuth code and see |
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<wkornew> |
yeah, I'll try |
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<wkornew> |
thanks, anyway |
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<nl> |
Hi people, I'm trying to setup trac with apache2.2.2 using CGI, on gentoo, and I'm having no luck. Can anyone spare a few minutes ? |
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<nl> |
my project works using tracd |
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<nl> |
it's just a matter of setting the vhost for trac up |
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<tuxipuxi> |
alect: you there? |
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<otaku42> |
anyone knows if tracd provides last-modified headers? |
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<nl> |
Hi, I'm trying to set a vhost for trac using cgi on gentoo. No success so far, I really don't understand the def for it. I've read this howto : http://www.gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Trac but I can't get it to work. |
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<nl> |
Anyone ? |
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<maxb> |
nl: Have you tried Trac's own docs? |
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<maxb> |
I tend to be suspicious of HOWTOs that begin "There are a lot of bugs in this HOWTO..." |
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<nl> |
maxb: good point. |
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<maxb> |
nl: Also, if you be more precise about "can't get it to work", you will likely get some useful suggestions here. |
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<maxb> |
Wow... that howto looks to be very heavy on Gentoo-specific config details. |
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<nl> |
Well basically, I've got my project setup, my vhost works, but it doesn't show my trac project, probably because it's missing half of the requirements, but since I don't understand this doc, I can't figure out what are my exact needs |
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<Sonderblade> |
is there a way to list bugs in chronological order? |
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<nl> |
I just want trac.domain.com to be right in the trac. I'm using cgi, because both mod python and mod fcgi are not available yet for apache2.2.2 |
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<maxb> |
"doesn't show my trac project"... what does it show, then? |
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<nl> |
my index.html that sits in the htdocs for that vhost... |
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<nl> |
reading this now. Probably better. http://projects.edgewall.com/trac/wiki/TracCgi |
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<maxb> |
Very probably. That gentoo howto looks like one person's personal setup, rather than an attempt at a generic installation walkthough. |
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<nl> |
in the doc though, it says to do this : ScriptAlias /trac /usr/share/trac/cgi-bin/trac.cgi - but I guess that's if I want trac as domain.tld/trac right ? |
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<nl> |
I'm using suexec. That seems to be a bit of a problem too. |
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<otaku42> |
does anyone know a trac installation that is served by tracd rather than apache or something like that? |
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<Sonderblade> |
otaku42: i run that |
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<otaku42> |
Sonderblade: with a proxy in front of it, or straight thru? |
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<Sonderblade> |
straight through |
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<otaku42> |
Sonderblade: may i have a look at it? i'd like to see if tracd provides last-modified headers... |
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<Sonderblade> |
no, its non-public |
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<otaku42> |
Sonderblade: just need the URL |
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<otaku42> |
ah, ok |
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<otaku42> |
Sonderblade: any chance you can check if tracd provides last-modified headers? |
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<Sonderblade> |
otaku42: sure, how do i do it? |
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<otaku42> |
Sonderblade: there are several ways... you don't happen to use firefox with livehttp headers plugin, do you? |
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<Sonderblade> |
otaku42: no |
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<otaku42> |
Sonderblade: firefox without that plugin? |
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<Sonderblade> |
otaku42: yep |
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<otaku42> |
Sonderblade: if you visit one of the pages served by tracd and right-click somewhere on the page, then select "View page info", do you have a "Headers" tab in the property window? |
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<otaku42> |
i'm not sure if that is generated by the mentioned plugin or not... |
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<Sonderblade> |
otaku42: no headers tab |
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<otaku42> |
Sonderblade: hmm, damn. ok, have a telnet client at hands? |
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<Sonderblade> |
otaku42: yes |
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<otaku42> |
Sonderblade: is that on linux? |
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<Sonderblade> |
yes |
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<otaku42> |
Sonderblade: then call the client with "telnet <ip or domain served by tracd> 80". telnet session opens, you should get a line like "Escape charater is '^]'.". then type: "GET / HTTP/1.0" (without quotes, case matters) and press return twice |
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<Sonderblade> |
otaku42: cool.. but there is no Last-Modified header there |
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<otaku42> |
Sonderblade: hmm... damn. ok, thanks a lot |
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<Sonderblade> |
no problem |
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<ranq> |
btw, anyone here using trac to track change requests or perhaps decisions? |
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<otaku42> |
ranq: change requests more or less. for example, we ask users who ask us about enhancements to file a corresponding ticket |
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<otaku42> |
ranq: although that is not done consistently. means: when we decide on something that has no ticket filed, we don't file a new ticket just to record the decision. |
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<otaku42> |
ranq: we is madwifi.org in this regard, by the way |
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<ranq> |
yeah just wondering it it would be a bit of overkill to track decisions, and how it would play out actually |
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<iloveitaly> |
ok, newbie to Trac here. How do you setup authentication? When I go to the "login" page I get this error: Authentication information not available. |
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<coderanger_> |
iloveitaly: What method are you using to run it? |
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<iloveitaly> |
fastcgi |
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<iloveitaly> |
through a bash script |
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<coderanger_> |
Well you would need some kind of webserver to support fcgi ... |
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<iloveitaly> |
Yeah, its on a webserver. I'm a dreamhost server. I enabled fcgi and setup a shell script that runs the Trac webinterface |
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<iloveitaly> |
I didn't setup any permissions or anything |
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<iloveitaly> |
the documentation seems vauge in this area |
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<coderanger_> |
Ugh, dreamhost is weird |
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<coderanger_> |
ask on the ML |
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<coderanger_> |
I know you can do it, but I don't deal with commercial hosting personally |
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<boorad> |
coderanger_, if I need to req.redirect to the default_handler, how would I do that? |
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<boorad> |
req.redirect(req.base_path) ?? |
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<coderanger_> |
boorad: req.redirect(req.href()) |
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<boorad> |
ty |
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<coderanger_> |
or req.redirect(req.href(self.config.get('trac','default_handler','wiki'))) I support |
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<boorad> |
yeah, I was trying to avoid that mess |
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<asmodai> |
coderanger_: thanks btw |
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<asmodai> |
coderanger_: TicketDelete works a charm. |
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<asmodai> |
coderanger_: Also, found out that every plugin I added into $TRAC/plugins needed to be specified explicitly in [components] to enable them |
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<asmodai> |
coderanger_: Hence the spam getting through. |
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<asmodai> |
coderanger_: What I don't understand is that I thought $TRAC/plugins auto-enabled plugins |
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<coderanger_> |
asmodai: Yeah, seems to be a recent trunk bug |
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<asmodai> |
ah |
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<asmodai> |
So it's not me :D |
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<coderanger_> |
Nope, I had the same problem after my last upgrade |
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<asmodai> |
That explains why I got spamz0red |
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<boorad> |
coderanger_, fyi, req.href() alone worked... |
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<Pistos> |
I have 0.9.5... what's the recommended course of action for Trac spam? |
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<Pistos> |
I'm starting to get hit pretty bad these days, and I'm about to go try and block IPs... |
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<asmodai> |
coderanger_: Is there a ticket about it btw? |
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<boorad> |
maxb, if you see wkornew again, tell him DbAuth has been fixed to solve his issue - it now uses default_handler |
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<coderanger_> |
Pistos: TicketDelete is the only thing for 0.9 |
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<coderanger_> |
asmodai: Don't know |
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<asmodai> |
coderanger_: Shall I file one? |
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<iloveitaly> |
Anybody have any idea why the TracWebAdmin plugin wont work |
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<coderanger_> |
asmodai: Go for it, I hadn't looked into it much |
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<iloveitaly> |
I'm logged in as admin |
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<iloveitaly> |
and I granted admin the TRAC_ADMIN priv |
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<asmodai> |
coderanger_: At least then we know one exists :) |
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<Pistos> |
coderanger_: Is that a plugin? I never got the hang of plugin installation... it seemed "betaish"... |
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<iloveitaly> |
yeah, its a plugin |
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<Pistos> |
I just looked, and there are too many random IPs for me to do any effective IP blocking. |
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<Pistos> |
Looks like I'll have to close ticket editing and creation to the public. :( |
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<Pistos> |
Kinda sucks. |
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<asmodai> |
coderanger_: #3288 |
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<wkornew> |
hi, is it possible to query for all tickets sorted by last modification date? how could I add this feature? |
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<wkornew> |
can one only track ticket changes by using mailing lists? |
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<boorad> |
wkornew, I fixed DbAuth to not default to /wiki |
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<Pistos> |
Hm, deleting from the sqlite DB directly is not so bad/difficult. |
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<wkornew> |
boorad: thanks! Charlie??? :) |
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<Pistos> |
Just delete from ticket and ticket_change tables. |
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<boorad> |
Charlie??? |
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<asmodai> |
Pistos: I used SpamFilter and webadmin + ticketdelete |
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<asmodai> |
Pistos: Works a charm |
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<Pistos> |
asmodai: I'm not prepared or willing to go past 0.9.5 until it is marked as stable... |
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<asmodai> |
Right. |
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<Pistos> |
:) |
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<wkornew> |
boorad: who are you? I never saw your nick :) |
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<asmodai> |
At least the webdeveloper/ticketdelete is available for 0.9 |
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<asmodai> |
webadmin even |
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<Pistos> |
asmodai: Two delete statements in the DB is actually somewhat trivial, so I may actually make it a cronjob. |
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<asmodai> |
Allows you to click through change deletions |
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<wkornew> |
boorad: ah, now I know. you saw my complain, right? ;) |
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<boorad> |
wkornew, oh, I'm just a squirrel trying to get a nut |
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<Pistos> |
But for the moment, I just turned off anon ticket creation and modification, |
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<asmodai> |
hands of my nuts. |
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<Pistos> |
because I basically get zero public mods anyway. |
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<asmodai> |
(bad one) |
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<boorad> |
wkornew, yep, read back in the IRC logs - I watch for DbAuth |
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<wkornew> |
boorad: cool. when will DbAuth get a real admin interface and encode passwords with MD5? |
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<boorad> |
wkornew, not sure - everyone who promosed to help with crypto has kinda left me hanging, and I'm busy with work |
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<boorad> |
not that crypto is difficult, just match md5 version to what is in the table |
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<wkornew> |
boorad: also, it would be nice if the Cc field could accept the username and ask DbAuth for the actual email (so I don't have to expose it to others and receive SPAM...) |
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<Sonderblade> |
how do you upload files to the trac wiki? |
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<boorad> |
wkornew, DbAuth does have the email address in tables, but I'm not sure if it's coming through in code for use elsewhere... Besides, you'd have to patch Trac with p.e.c. #2456 to accomplish that - really close, though |
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<wkornew> |
boorad: well, too bad. we really need something like DbAuth... |
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<boorad> |
wkornew, I also don't know what you mean by real admin interface |
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<boorad> |
to add / admin users? |
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<wkornew> |
boorad: I mean that it should be integrated with WebAdmin |
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<wkornew> |
boorad: yep |
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<wkornew> |
boorad: or at least, to edit yourself. but removing SPAM users would be nice, too |
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<boorad> |
well I know the crypto stuff is an open ticket for that plugin, but not sure if the admin screen is or not |
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<boorad> |
there's also a bug in trac-hacks to combine the AcctMgr Plugin and others with DbAuth - take best of each - like the register screen from AcctMgr, etc. |
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<wkornew> |
boorad: when will this IUserDirectory stuff be integrated with Trac? |
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<boorad> |
wkornew, devs say 0.11 or 0.12, when they can put some thought into it, as opposed to my *very* incomplete patch on #2456 |
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<wkornew> |
oh yeah, the register feature would be neat, too...Trac really needs a lot of work... |
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<boorad> |
wkornew, don't be shy... |
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<boorad> |
patches are welcome |
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<boorad> |
;) |
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<wkornew> |
I'm already working on a modification for the Haiku project |
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<wkornew> |
but it has to be a little bit hacky because Trac is so incomplete |
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<boorad> |
BeOS? |
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<wkornew> |
yep |
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<wkornew> |
(was OpenBeOS, now it's Haiku) |
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<boorad> |
cool |
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<wkornew> |
they could at least accept the IUserDirectory code. I mean, would it harm? also, the Cc feature must be replaced with real subscriptions (see FlySpray) |
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<wkornew> |
boorad: wanna help us? ;) |
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<wkornew> |
we could need a few more developers |
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<boorad> |
wkornew, well, a little change of pace every once in a while to hack on Trac would help us, and possibly be fun |
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<boorad> |
wkornew, I'm kinda tied up with dsource.org |
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<boorad> |
and getting D off the ground |
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<wkornew> |
oh, cool :) |
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<wkornew> |
we had a few suggestions about switching to D in a later release. but I find it a little bit too overloaded. I'd prefer a programming language that takes its power from simplicity (less is more) |
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<boorad> |
I guess, but it has most of the power of C++ and is quite a bit simpler |
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<wkornew> |
well, it introduces even more features |
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<boorad> |
wkornew, as for IUserDirectory, I've tried to get it in, even in its current state, as it doesn't hurt anything, but no dice |
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<wkornew> |
that's annoying. one can't really use Trac for a big project in its current state |
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<wkornew> |
but Bugzilla is so incredibly user un-friendly and ugly |
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<boorad> |
it's not too bad - and am trying to be patient |
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<boorad> |
because it's so much better than BZ ;) |
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<asmodai> |
wkornew: big project and current state? do elaborate |
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<wkornew> |
we really need good ticket monitoring support |
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<wkornew> |
i.e.: replace the Cc field with a nice "Watch this ticket" link |
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<wkornew> |
(or "Stop watching") |
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<wkornew> |
then, big projects need better categorization |
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<wkornew> |
one level is not enough. we already have a unlimited-level category field (see: http://haiku.jansson.be/trac/newticket) |
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<asmodai> |
yay, Forbidden |
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<asmodai> |
:D |
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<wkornew> |
really? :) |
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<asmodai> |
And I *still* love the Haiku logo |
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<asmodai> |
Hai, honto, honto! |
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<asmodai> |
Errr, I mean, yea, for real. |
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<wkornew> |
oh, yeah, please login as haiku:haiku ;) |
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<asmodai> |
Excuse me, talking to my Japanese gf as well ;) |
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<wkornew> |
it's still not finished (see open bugs) |
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<wkornew> |
(and tasks) |
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<asmodai> |
Ah, but still, additional category specifiers looks nice |
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<wkornew> |
what do you mean? |
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<wkornew> |
sorry, I meant component (not category) |
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<asmodai> |
Click drivers and get more choices. |
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<asmodai> |
Category/component |
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<asmodai> |
What's in a name? |
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<wkornew> |
oh, so you like it? I misunderstood the "but still" |
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<asmodai> |
To your not finished. |
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<asmodai> |
:) |
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<wkornew> |
it's still rough. the query feature doesn't work correctly with those categories and the Milestone details view lists the flat raw list |
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<boorad> |
wkornew, your #6 can be solved with the #2456 patch and activate it in dbauth |
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<wkornew> |
also, the admin interface should make it easier to edit category trees |
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<boorad> |
trac.userdir.* = enabled |
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<wkornew> |
boorad: and how do I specify which users are allowed to be assigned to tickets? |
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<wkornew> |
using a special group? |
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<wkornew> |
also, this should work with a drop-down list (instead of a free-form text field) |
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<boorad> |
hmm, I think it defaults to all users in your DbAuth db |
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<boorad> |
it is a drop-down list |
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<boorad> |
and not a text field |
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<wkornew> |
yes, I can enable that without DbAuth, already, but it would show all known users |
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<wkornew> |
I'm thinking about adding a special permission TICKET_ASSIGNABLE |
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<wkornew> |
only users with that permission can be assigned to |
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<onox> |
How do I get rid of the blank login page? |
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<boorad> |
but with DbAuth, it's not known users, it's users in your db |
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<wkornew> |
I'd really love our patches to get added to the official Trac |
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<wkornew> |
boorad: we want all users to register before they are allowed to submit tickets |
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<boorad> |
also, your #9 is handled in the Trac 0.10 version of DbAuth - see http://www.trac-hacks.org/wiki/DbAuthPlugin for how to hook up your db schema to the plugin |
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<onox> |
Why do I get a blank page when I want to login? |
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<onox> |
I am using tracd |
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<wkornew> |
boorad: yep, sounds nice. does it support MySQL or even better: Postgres? |
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<boorad> |
wkornew, supports all backends that Trac supports - see comment below conf instructions, about [838] |
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<wkornew> |
currently, we don't have a CMS, yet. it's just a plan. the registration and user management stuff could then be handled by the CMS and everyone would have one single login for everything |
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<wkornew> |
boorad: damn, I could have read that ;) |
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<boorad> |
on dsource, I have tied phpBB, Trac, Drupal, SVN - all to the same users/groups tables in PG |
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<wkornew> |
yeah, that's very cool. |
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<wkornew> |
we'd like to do that, too. but it's still a lot of work until we get there... |
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<boorad> |
well, just give Trac and trac-hacks a closer look and hang out here, before determining it's not ready for big projects and such ;) |
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<wkornew> |
seriously, that's not enough to get started without one line of coding |
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<wkornew> |
see http://haiku.jansson.be/trac/query?group=milestone&order=priority for the full list of tasks we have to do |
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<boorad> |
but at 0.10 and going to 0.11 dev soon, I don't think anyone should expect Trac to be ready w/o coding just yet |
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<wkornew> |
(or have done) |
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<onox> |
OMFG |
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<wkornew> |
well, it does *a lot*, but somehow people seemed to forget that it must also make ticket handling very easy. I mean, Trac has a wiki, SVN, Roadmap, etc. |
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<wkornew> |
there is a lot of source code for such a simple ticket system |
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<boorad> |
wkornew, Trac's roadmap is packed full of goodies that will get it on par and surpass BZ and others. |
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<wkornew> |
let's hope it will not feature-bloat ;) |
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<boorad> |
hopefully you just choose the plugins you want, no bloat |
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<boorad> |
s/no bloat/no bloat unless you choose it/ |
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<wkornew> |
we want something *now*, not in two years. Trac development is rather slow, so I can't understand why the developers are so picky about patches |
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<wkornew> |
yes, plugins are the way to go. the base system should be minimal, but do everything one needs. basically, I don't need much more than a base system |
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<wkornew> |
it's annoying that Trac sometimes just marks "resolve as: fixed" although I just want to add a comment or change the description |
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<asmodai> |
eh? |
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<wkornew> |
back to my original question: is it not possible to adjust the query view to sort the results by modification date? |
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<asmodai> |
Haven't had that happening. |
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<wkornew> |
asmodai: it's happening every now and then. maybe after reloading the page... I don't know how to reproduce it, yet |
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<schultzconsult> |
Hi I have followed http://projects.edgewall.com/trac/wiki/TracOnDebianSarge step by step, but http://213.150.56.152/futte/ is not correct... what is wrong with the SetEnv? |
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<wkornew> |
asmodai: yep, seems to be on reload |
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<asmodai> |
mmmm |
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<wkornew> |
but it doesn't happen at trac-hacks.com |
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<schultzconsult> |
Im running 0.8.4 |
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<wkornew> |
neither on the official trac site |
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<pedroooo> |
hello guys. anyone using trac to support scrum? i'd like to discuss about it, share some ideas |
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<wkornew> |
asmodai: strange...but maybe it's because I'm logged in via DbAuth? there is one other annoying "feature" when logged in: the "View Tickets" query page searches for *my* tickets, by default. this is not expected and very annoying (for example, tic even asked why he could not see any tickets) |
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<wkornew> |
asmodai: (that's because no tickets were assigned to him at that moment) |
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<wkornew> |
asmodai: if you are one of the developers could you please remove that feature? is it really needed? did you see how I solved it in our Trac instance? just a simple extra link above the Query page. if you really want to search for *your* tickets you can click the link, but it doesn't annoy everyone else |
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<asmodai> |
I am but a meager contributor. |
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<wkornew> |
by default, grouping by milestone is all that should be done |
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<wkornew> |
(if at all) |
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<asmodai> |
alect, coderanger_, jborg, matt_good, cmlenz |
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<asmodai> |
and cboos |
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<wkornew> |
asmodai: too bad. how many active developers are there? |
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<asmodai> |
those are 6 of the most active hackers at least |
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<boorad> |
cboos, eblot |
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<wkornew> |
alect, coderanger_, please fix this feature. and please accept all my patches that I might soon send you ;) |
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<wkornew> |
for example, our Components-as-tree feature could easily become official. it shouldn't disturb anyone. everything works as before if you don't put a "/" in your component names. what about that? do you want to add it? :)) |
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<schultzconsult> |
nobody who have followed http://projects.edgewall.com/trac/wiki/TracOnDebianSarge ? |
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<wkornew> |
anyway... |
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<schultzconsult> |
It looks to me like something is missing in that guide.. |
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<fletch_> |
hi everyone |
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<fletch_> |
I have a question that I'm guessing gets asked a lot but I can't find a reference to it searching the Trac wiki or via Google so I thought I'd ask in here (be gentle) |
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<schultzconsult> |
go for it |
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<schultzconsult> |
;-) |
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<fletch_> |
I'm working for a company that uses Test Track Pro and I want to show them how good Trac is (since I'm really not a TTP fan) and I was hoping there was an easy way to export -> import the db |
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<asmodai> |
From Test Track Pro? |
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<fletch_> |
I've found an xslt script that'll move the TTP xml format to bugzilla and I know that there is a Bugzilla to Trac converter but that seems long winded |
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<fletch_> |
yeah |
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