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<otaku42> |
monsti: probably |
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<monsti> |
wow :) |
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<monsti> |
are there any release dates for 0.10/11, yet? |
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<alect> |
soon |
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<monsti> |
alect: ah ;) |
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<asmodai> |
and back |
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<hdiogenes> |
alect: good news |
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<hdiogenes> |
tweaking sf2trac.py and got to import 1 ticket! :) |
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<asmodai> |
yay! |
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<asmodai> |
How many do they have? :) |
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<asmodai> |
"C++: an octopus made by nailing extra legs to a dog." - Steve Taylor |
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<hdiogenes> |
only 6681 bugs to go! :) |
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<hdiogenes> |
i really have to sleep now |
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<hdiogenes> |
i hope i can get the remaining ones tomorrow :) |
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<asmodai> |
cool beans ;) |
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<hdiogenes> |
hehe |
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<hdiogenes> |
see ya! |
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<otaku42> |
questions to the python pros in here: is there an easy way to insert a string at a well-defined (but variable) position of an existing string? |
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<otaku42> |
the existing string would be something like: <a href="...">bla</a> |
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<otaku42> |
and i would like to add an additional parameter to the <a> tag (right in front of the first ">") |
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<alect> |
ooh ticket import |
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<alect> |
that is cool |
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<cmlenz> |
? |
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<alect> |
hdiogenes importing sf tickets |
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<alect> |
lo cboos |
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<cboos> |
hi |
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<cboos> |
not so much time right now ... but I 've just seen r3451 |
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<cmlenz> |
heh |
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<asmodai> |
cboos: And it put you in a state of awe? ;) |
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<cboos> |
hm, well, it's just that it was done on purpose, and undoing that without asking was a bit rough |
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<cboos> |
cmlenz: how do you think people will realize that a syntax that they're used to and just works was deprecated, if they don't see it written anywhere? |
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<cboos> |
(no they won't read the doc, as they know one way to do it, which just works) |
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<asmodai> |
alect: How does Most obvious example is the "Check to Upload" button relate to 'our' I have files to attach to this ticket? They seem to be essentially the same. |
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<alect> |
asmodai: i don't understand what you're asking..? |
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<cmlenz> |
cboos: do you really think people will notice such tooltips without actively looking for them? |
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<cmlenz> |
cboos: plus, it's a message for the admin, not the users of the site |
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<asmodai> |
alect: One of the bad features Python.org labelled of sf's tracker is the check to upload checkbox. Don't we do the same thing essentially with the 'I have files to attach to this ticket'? |
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<cboos> |
for the admins? |
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<cmlenz> |
therefore it should be somehow logged or such, but not put into the rendered output |
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<cmlenz> |
well, the authors |
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<cmlenz> |
assuming a more closed model |
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<cboos> |
yeah, but it's a wiki, so any reader may be an author, right? ;) ... and fix the wiki syntax |
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<alect> |
asmodai: ah...where did they say that? |
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<alect> |
ah i see it |
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<alect> |
i'm not sure |
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<alect> |
i don't quite see how that is bad ui design, personally |
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<cmlenz> |
cboos: but my main point is actually that using what is generally rendered as a tooltip, and thus pretty much hidden, is IMO not at all effective at communicating deprecation |
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<alect> |
what's the sf one like? perhaps it's excruciating to use |
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<asmodai> |
http://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=add&group_id=57796&atid=485457 |
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<asmodai> |
Doesn't look so much different from how trac does it. :) |
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<alect> |
hmm |
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<asmodai> |
I like gmail's attach on the fly feature, but that's probably kneedeep in Javascript. |
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<asmodai> |
I doubt it is easily solved with pure (x)html and python. |
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<cmlenz> |
cboos: and just removing it in the next release isn't going to wreak havoc... you'll just have links instead of inlined images, but working links nonetheless... and that is probably going to be the only way to make authors fix images |
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<dilinger> |
@!# |
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<evil_twin> |
dilinger: Error: "!#" is not a valid command. |
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<alect> |
perhaps their problem with it is the fact that you have to click the checkbox simply to upload, as opposed to just uploading? |
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<dilinger> |
oh the irony |
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<asmodai> |
dilinger: lol |
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<dilinger> |
i just accidentally deleted a script that i was working on to automate the process of converting repositories (using tailor) from tla/baz/git to bzr |
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<asmodai> |
alect: Possibly. |
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<dilinger> |
...i wasn't using any sort of revision control while working on the script |
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<asmodai> |
alect: But from a usability point of view neither sf's way nor trac's way is quite friendly. But I seriously wonder if it can be done otherwise save using JavaScript. |
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<cboos> |
cmlenz: hm, well, it's simply that I was hoping for a more smooth transition... gently warning users through not so disrupting "tips" (that's what tooltips are for), then removing support for that in the next release. Well, without a deprecation phase, we could just go on and remove it completely now. |
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<cboos> |
what would be the point of waiting for 0.11 if we don't do a kind of visible transition in 0.10? The deprecation warning has been done on the mailing list and on the ticket since a long time... |
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<cmlenz> |
cboos: actually, I wouldn't be opposed to remove it now |
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<cmlenz> |
I think I just convinced myself :-P |
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<cmlenz> |
the problem is that if we can't find a good way to communicate the deprecation (and I don't think a tooltip is effective enough), then it probably doesn't make sense to deprecate in the first place |
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<cboos> |
right, anyway people will soon get attentive to what has changed for the 0.10 changes notice |
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<asmodai> |
Personally, tooltips are the worst place to put deprecation notices. |
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<cboos> |
... just don't forget to put this information there ;) |
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<cboos> |
btw, maybe we could create a 0.10 changelog wiki page (in the spirit of the pysqlite ones) |
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<cmlenz> |
what's wrong with just the ChangeLog page? |
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<cboos> |
well, it's a bit terse |
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<cboos> |
if the content for 0.10 would be made similar to content for the other releases, it wouldn't be much more than what's currently in the milestone description, plus the list of closed tickets |
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<cmlenz> |
then you'd want something between that and the revision log? |
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<cboos> |
I think that maybe 0.10 deserves a bit more, maybe a paragraph for each of the major features introduced... |
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<cmlenz> |
while that might make sense, it sounds like just another thing that'll make releases more painful :-P |
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<cboos> |
We could do that collaboratively, either on the wiki or on the Trac Dev mailing list. |
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<cmlenz> |
are you talking about a separate page now? |
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<cboos> |
We could take some material from the already existing page (InterTrac, InterWiki, TracChangeset, etc.) |
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<cmlenz> |
maybe the RELEASE file would be a good place for that |
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<cmlenz> |
i.e. a more detailed description of "What's New" |
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<cboos> |
yep, something like that |
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<cboos> |
but maybe put that first in a wiki page, before integrating it in the source |
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<cmlenz> |
sure |
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<cboos> |
e.g. ReleaseNotesDotTen (as we don't have numbers in the wiki page names ...grr!) |
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<cmlenz> |
TracDev/ReleaseNotes/0.10 |
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<cmlenz> |
well, simple enough: [wiki:TracDev/ReleaseNotes/0.10] |
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<cmlenz> |
IMHO |
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<cboos> |
[TracDev/ReleaseNotes/0.10], thanks alect ;) |
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<cboos> |
though I personally prefer moinmoin style: ["TracDev/ReleaseNotes/0.10"] |
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<cmlenz> |
and I prefer the "old" Trac style ;-) |
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<cmlenz> |
I think because it's more explicit, or maybe I'm just oldschool |
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<cmlenz> |
anyway I think we have enough such options to not have to worry about making the rules for wiki page names any more complicated/flexible |
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<cboos> |
I'm a bit afraid that one day we'll find that things like [abc] shouldn't always be converted to wiki links and that way may one day go back... That's why I think ["abc"] is more future proof (and a more widespread convention) |
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<cmlenz> |
yeah, I was wondering... isn't it possible that notation will conflict with changeset links? |
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<cmlenz> |
or be too ambiguous in general |
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<cboos> |
it does, I've written a note about this: http://projects.edgewall.com/trac/wiki/WikiPageNames, the paragraph before the 'Note:' |
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<cboos> |
cmlenz: are you taking care of the removal of the deprecated image syntax, otherwise I can do it, no pb |
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<cmlenz> |
feel free to do that, I need to get back to "real work" :-P |
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<cboos> |
so should I ;) |
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<cmlenz> |
asmodai: the link hover effect here gives the list a jello-y feel ;-) http://python-trac.swapoff.org/query |
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<asmodai> |
Ah |
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<asmodai> |
I knew I still needed to fix something |
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<cmlenz> |
and the full (dashed) link underlines in the timeline should probably go, too |
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<cmlenz> |
stopping from reporting, or stopping from fixing? |
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<asmodai> |
Both. :D |
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<asmodai> |
I'll work on it this weekend if you don't beat me to it ;) |
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<cmlenz> |
where's the code for the various mods? in a repos somewhere? |
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<asmodai> |
Simply the style.css |
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<asmodai> |
on that site. |
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<asmodai> |
Probably need to break down the site wide :hover and :link to more individual entries for this |
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<cmlenz> |
so not versioned? naughty ;-) |
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<asmodai> |
I had no desire for a versioning on this one. It's a proof of concept for python.org |
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<E1ven> |
Are there any manager-ready reviews of Trac I might be able to acquire? |
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<E1ven> |
Something comparing it to say, Fogbugz, or discussing productivity? |
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<cboos> |
E1ven: http://projects.edgewall.com/trac/wiki/TracUsers |
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<cboos> |
might help ;) |
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<E1ven> |
It's a good start, thanks. |
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<E1ven> |
I'm unlikely to find something in a more formal writeup, but I thought maybe the Linux Journal, or somesuch, had done something. |
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<cboos> |
ah yes, wait ... |
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<cboos> |
there was that link posted on the Trac ML: http://virtual.vtt.fi/virtual/xp2006/activities2.html#Distributed%20design |
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<cboos> |
there's no downloadable presentation, though |
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<cboos> |
(or I haven't found it) |
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<E1ven> |
Looks interesting, but It seems I missed the presentation. I'll e-mail the author. Thanks. |
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<cmlenz> |
E1ven: there's http://software.newsforge.com/software/05/10/12/1425223.shtml |
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<E1ven> |
THAT looks good. |
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<E1ven> |
Thank you! |
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<cmlenz> |
np |
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<cmlenz> |
there was also a 4-5 page (IIRC) report in the german "linux magazin" a couple of months ago, which was awesome |
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<cmlenz> |
but of course german ;-) |
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<E1ven> |
I know this is probably a rather stupid question, but there isn't any wayt o swap out the CamelCase style page links for [[Mediawiki]] style links, is there/ |
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<asmodai> |
c't > * |
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<E1ven> |
C't is a really good magazine. I've had it reccomended to me, if only I spoke the language ;) |
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<cboos> |
E1ven: you should have come up a bit earlier, we were just discussing that... [Tracwiki] as a link to the page named Tracwiki actually works in 0.10 |
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<alect> |
it is good! |
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<alect> |
:) |
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<alect> |
i wonder if evil_twin is logging somewhere |
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<cboos> |
@contribute_back_to_trac_wiki |
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<evil_twin> |
cboos: Error: "contribute_back_to_trac_wiki" is not a valid command. |
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<cboos> |
too bad, it's not a real AI |
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<E1ven> |
.10 is the svn build? |
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<asmodai> |
cmlenz is our AI. |
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<cmlenz> |
heh |
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<cmlenz> |
sometimes you could mistake me for a real human being |
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<asmodai> |
:| |
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<cboos> |
I wondered, on about:cmlenz, that photo on the right, is that you in the front of the computer? (or are you the computer, in the light of those new revelations ;) ) |
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<cmlenz> |
yeah, that's me, but the computer is fake -- it's just a piece of paper that looks like a screen do to the lighting ;-) |
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<cboos> |
well done ;) |
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<asmodai> |
cboos: eh? where/ |
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<cboos> |
http://www.cmlenz.net/ |
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<asmodai> |
ah, hacker.png or what was it |
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<asmodai> |
cmlenz: btw, careful with the MacBook batteries |
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<cmlenz> |
hehe |
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<asmodai> |
cmlenz: Read some stories about them swelling up and cracking the case open a bit |
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<E1ven> |
Only the first batch, but yeah. Nasty. |
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<cmlenz> |
I think that's the MBP |
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<asmodai> |
heh, asmo + gf: http://gallery.in-nomine.org/v/netherlands200512/ai+062.jpg.html |
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<asmodai> |
Argh, bandwidth collapsing. |
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<otaku42> |
can someone explain me the meaning of the get_active_navigation_item method? is it a problem when a navigation item is returned there, but not returned in the get-navigation_items method? |
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<cmlenz> |
I think in that case no item would be highlighted |
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<Ikarus> |
For some reason wikiformatting isn't working, but wiki macro's ([[BR]] atleast) do work |
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<Ikarus> |
Any suggestions what I might have missed ? |
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<Ikarus> |
hrm, odd |
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<otaku42> |
cmlenz: highlighted as in: when i'm in the wiki, the "wiki" navbar item gets highlighted? |
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<cmlenz> |
yes |
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<Ikarus> |
Actually everything works with wikiformatting except any kind of list |
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<otaku42> |
cmlenz: ok, thx |
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<otaku42> |
i think i should go and locate a good python book to learn that language rather than just guessing how it might work :) |
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<maxb> |
otaku42: Python's own official tutorial is remarkably thorough introduction. |
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<cboos> |
E1ven: http://projects.edgewall.com/trac/wiki/AboutTrac |
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<cboos> |
E1ven: don't hesitate to put material there, if you happen to find some more ;) |
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<E1ven> |
cboos- Thanks again. |
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<otaku42> |
maxb: thanks for the hint, will look at that |
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<E1ven> |
Hrmm.. One more question, if I may- Is it possible to view recent SVN commits in a trac tracker? |
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<manuzhai> |
what do you mean by a trac tracker? |
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<manuzhai> |
I'd guess you want the Timeline, it shows recent commits |
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<E1ven> |
I mean.. An installation of Trac. |
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<E1ven> |
I don't know what you'd call it ;) |
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<E1ven> |
Ah. OK. The example I was looking at didn't show any svn commits there, but it must be because no one is comitting to the example svn. http://trac.adiumx.com/timeline shows me you're right. |
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<E1ven> |
I didn't see a set of docs on the webpage anywhere.. Did I just miss them, or can I only read those after DL? |
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<manuzhai> |
the docs are in the wiki at http://projects.edgewall.com/trac/ |
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<manuzhai> |
or in the wiki on any project you create on your own trac |
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<E1ven> |
that's fine- I just wanted a way to read them before installing ;) |
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<robertk> |
Hi all, a newbie question here: I've just downloaded and built TracEmoticons plugin. |
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<robertk> |
I've installed it using the ez install interface (I think), which didn't report any errors. |
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<robertk> |
However the plugin doesn't show up in the plugins list. If I try to repeat the install, I get "Plugin TracEmoticons-0.1-py2.3.egg already installed" |
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<robertk> |
'Looking in the trac/plugins directory, I see the egg there, with the same ownership/permissions as the other plugins. :-\ |
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<robertk> |
Any suggestions for how to track down why this isn't working? |
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<cedricOB> |
lookat the trac.ini |
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<cedricOB> |
robertk : not sure, but you maybe have to declare it in your conf |
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<cedricOB> |
pppfff |
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<maxb> |
Some of the 0.9.x mod_python interface code is *reeeeaaaalllly* evil. |
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<maxb> |
For instance, a string gets set into a FieldStorage object via a wrapper which puts it in a StringIO object, and then other parts of trac depend on undocumented happenstance within mod_python to get the string back out of the StringIO object before returning it! |
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<maxb> |
What's the ETA on 0.9.6, because I'm pretty sure the upcoming mod_python 3.2.9 is going to end up incompatible with Trac 0.9.5 |
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<wkornew> |
please help! how can I retrieve the user's email address (stored in session) from within a template? |
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<maxb> |
You can't retrieve arbitrary things from a template. |
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<maxb> |
The python code decides the infoset it wants to pass to a template, and that's what the template has to work with - and nothing more. |
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<wkornew> |
maxb: and how can I add something to the infoset? |
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<maxb> |
req.hdf is the HDF tree (see Clearsilver docs to understand HDF) that is revealed to the template |
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<wkornew> |
ah, now I understand what this hdf stuff is for. :) |
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<wkornew> |
thank you |
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<matt_good> |
no work today! |
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<maxb> |
Do any of the Trac developers follow mod_python development? |
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<maxb> |
I'm asking because current mod_python 3.2.x branch in svn is incompatible with trac. |
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<maxb> |
I notified the mod_python dev list of one issue, and it was fixed, but that just uncovered another two issues. |
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<maxb> |
This whole issue only matters for Trac 0.9.x, though, since the WSGI-merge in 0.10 has completely removed the affected code |
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<matt_good> |
I don't think anyone is actively following their SVN |
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<matt_good> |
we're getting down to the last bit of development before 0.10, so it should be ready for release very soon |
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<maxb> |
Good - that means that Trac 0.10 should be well established by the time mod_python 3.3 happens |
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<maxb> |
So all that matters is getting 3.2.9 to remain compatible. |
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<De_Mon> |
the anticipation of a offcial 0.10 release is going to kill me |
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<Tetraboy> |
Trac is great. |
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<cmlenz> |
hey matt_good: any reason to not put the pidfile support into trac.util.daemon? |
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<matt_good> |
cmlenz: no, I suppose that would work too |
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<cmlenz> |
I suppose you could get the executable name from sys.argv[0]... that's the only piece that's tracd specific AFAICT |
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<matt_good> |
hrm? it's not using the executable name |
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<matt_good> |
but I've gotta run |
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<cmlenz> |
kayaking... that guy's got a life! :-P |
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<cboos> |
cmlenz: what's your take on #1890, have you already discussed it with alect or maxb? Just seen another comment in favor of an is_authenticated field... |
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<cmlenz> |
yeah, we should have an "authenticated" field for pretty much every submission |
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<cmlenz> |
(ticket_change, ticket, etc) |
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<cmlenz> |
as well as an ipnr field |
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<cmlenz> |
that kind of stuff should be recorded IMO |
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<cboos> |
for 0.10? |
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<cmlenz> |
would probably be okay to push into 0.10, but I'm not sure how many changes would be required |
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<dilinger> |
ah, cool, jonas committed #3267 already |
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<cmlenz> |
cboos: about the remove/disabled aspect of the "your email or user name" field... I think I'd be okay with just removing it for authenticated users |
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<cmlenz> |
so maxb patch looks okay |
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<cboos> |
yeah, there's already the "logged in as <user>" to remind users who they are ;) |
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<cboos> |
no need to tell them once again ;) |
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<cboos> |
about the fields ... I think it's a bit of a waste to have author,is_authenticated,ipnr fields pretty much everywhere ... |
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<cboos> |
also, alect was a bit afraid on the impact on plugins, IIRC |
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<dilinger> |
ihm |
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<dilinger> |
http://projects.edgewall.com/trac/query?status=new&status=assigned&status=reopened&milestone=0.10 |
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<dilinger> |
why are closed bugs showing up there? |
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<dilinger> |
http://projects.edgewall.com/trac/query?status=new&status=assigned&status=reopened&milestone=0.10&order=status |
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<dilinger> |
also, ordering by status seems.. broken |
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<cboos> |
dilinger: those are coming from your previous query... those "closed" entries are highlighted as being changed since your last query |
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<cmlenz> |
the grouping is definitely broken with session-backed queries... haven't had a chance to fix that yet |
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<cmlenz> |
maybe also applies to sorting |
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<cmlenz> |
plus, the query "memento" is too long-lived... I thought I had it set to time out after an hour, but that doesn't seem to be happening |
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<dilinger> |
cboos: really? there are closed bugs there that i've never looked at. also, they're not highlighted. |
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<cmlenz> |
thus the confusion |
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<dilinger> |
like #2807 |
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<idnar> |
dilinger: not in italics? |
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<cmlenz> |
dilinger: I bet you'd see different results after removing session/domain cookies |
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<idnar> |
it doesn't have anything to do with whether you looked at them, just if they were there the last time you looked at the query |
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<dilinger> |
ah |
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<dilinger> |
that is really confusing :/ |
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<dilinger> |
idnar: and i'm not sure if they're italicized |
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<dilinger> |
doesn't look like it |
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<cmlenz> |
as I said, the confusion I think is due to the old query not being timed out... otherwise you probably wouldn't have noticed |
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<dilinger> |
heh, is there even a way to get rid of that behavior without removing the cookie? i applied that specific filter because i really don't want to see closed bugs. trac shouldn't be trying to second guess me.. |
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<dilinger> |
cmlenz: gotcha |
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<cmlenz> |
you can "udpate" the query, and the session stuff will go away |
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<cmlenz> |
i.e. the update button |
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<dilinger> |
thanks |
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<asmodai> |
lenzje! |
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<hacim> |
hi, the textile link in the trac help pages is broken http://dealmeida.net/projects/textile/ |
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<hacim> |
anyone know where I can get info on installing it? |
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<hacim> |
looks like maybe just installing python-textile does it |
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<idnar> |
:( Trac queries can't do OR |
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<cboos> |
http://projects.edgewall.com/trac/ticket/2647 |
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<maxb> |
cboos: Hi. About the author,authenticated,ipnr thing... yes, alect doesn't like it. I'm still convinced that it's the right (only?) way to go, and was thinking of writing up a design document to try to convince him. |
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<maxb> |
I was hoping to get the easy bit of #1890 to get committed and out of the way first. |
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<cboos> |
on |