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<alec_away> |
hmm |
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<alec_away> |
lo cmlenz |
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<cmlenz> |
hey alec |
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<alec_away> |
0.10 looks fairly close eh? |
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<alec_away> |
and in even cooler news, australia got through to the second round at the world cup |
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<alec_away> |
:) |
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<cmlenz> |
yay to both :-D |
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<alec_away> |
should we move the various listener interface hooks to after the db.commit()? |
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<alec_away> |
seems kind of unpleasant that a listener can break a transaction |
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<alec_away> |
ticket/wiki/attachment change listeners i meant |
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<cmlenz> |
good point |
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<cmlenz> |
yeah, would probably be better |
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<alec_away> |
it appears akismet requires utf-8 content, which attachment filtering can break |
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<cmlenz> |
the adapter would need to decode the content |
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<cmlenz> |
also, it probably shouldn't try to post binary content to akismet |
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<alec_away> |
hmm |
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<alec_away> |
that is going to make life tricky |
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<alec_away> |
all a spammer need do is put enough content for the attachment to be seen as binary, and the rest could be visible spam |
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<alec_away> |
hahah "It?s possible that if Trac and Chuck Norris walked into a bar, only Trac would leave. |
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<alec_away> |
http://e-scribe.com/news/241 |
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<cmlenz> |
hehe |
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<cmlenz> |
enough content to be seen as binary? not sure what you mean |
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<alec_away> |
i mean we'll have to test the content to see whether it's binary somehow (eg. trac.mimeview.api.is_binary()) |
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<alec_away> |
so if a spam attachment looks like binary to trac and is consequently not sent to akismet... |
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<alec_away> |
pity i didn't keep any of the attachment spam :( |
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<alec_away> |
did you keep some? |
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<cmlenz> |
I think matt did |
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<wkornew> |
hi |
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<wkornew> |
cmlenz: will the second patch not be applied? http://projects.edgewall.com/trac/ticket/3295 |
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<cmlenz> |
if trac thinks it's binary, it won't be displayed either |
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<wkornew> |
cmlenz: it belongs to the other patch that disallows non-developers to assign tickets to someone |
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<alec_away> |
cmlenz: this is true |
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<alec_away> |
but still, not ideal |
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<wkornew> |
and the workflow branch won't implement this out of the box, so this should be part of 0.10 before it's too late... |
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<cmlenz> |
alec_away: if the attachment uses a binary format (think word), akismet wouldn't be able to check it anyway |
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<cmlenz> |
(I think, at least) |
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<cmlenz> |
as it expects text |
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<cmlenz> |
wkornew: I'm not sure but I tend to agree with cboos here |
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<wkornew> |
cmlenz: well, what about a simpler patch? it could be as simple as checking for has_permission('TICKET_MODIFY') in web_ui.py and setting field['skip'] = True if False |
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<cmlenz> |
wkornew: that sounds better, I was just going to suggest something like that |
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<wkornew> |
I mean, this *should* be in 0.10. otherwise it's not a complete patch. I mean, why should you be allowed to assign when creating a ticket, but not afterwards? |
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<cmlenz> |
well, making it depend on TICKET_MODIFY doesn't make all that much sense either ;-) |
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<cmlenz> |
but might be an okay workaround until the proper workflow/permissions stuff lands |
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<wkornew> |
cmlenz: I think that there should be a way to mark developers and admins and give them special permissions. maybe we need another permission level. I just think that it's not good to give normal users TICKET_MODIFY permission. they should only have TICKET_CHGPROP |
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<cmlenz> |
bbl |
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<wkornew> |
normal users should not interfere with the planning and admin process |
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<wkornew> |
cmlenz: the new patch is ready for integration. I also updated the default wiki TracPermissions documentation to make it more clear what TICKET_MODIFY means |
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<wkornew> |
http://projects.edgewall.com/trac/ticket/3295 |
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<Laatz> |
hi |
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<Laatz> |
I've just upgraded from 09b to 0.10b I did all the steps upgra�ng the environment but I have error |
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<Laatz> |
File "/usr/lib/python2.3/site-packages/trac/web/main.py", line 176, in dispatch |
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<Laatz> |
req.path_info) |
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<Laatz> |
HTTPException: 404 Not Found (No handler matched request to /tags_demo) |
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<Laatz> |
please help |
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<maxb> |
Laatz: I'm not aware of any versions describing themselves as "09b" or "0.10b". Possibly you mean "0.10dev" for the second? |
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<Laatz> |
sure |
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<maxb> |
Anyway sounds like the error refers to a plugin which isn't being picked up by the new version. |
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<maxb> |
Since /tags_demo isn't a standard trac url |
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<maxb> |
wkornew: An issue with your patch is that it doesn't enforce the permission in the python code at all. Nothing prevents someone from trivially mocking up a modified form to bypass absence of the field in the template. |
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<wkornew> |
maxb: indeed. it was intended as a UI-improvement for 0.10. it will be replaced with the workflow branch, anyway |
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<Laatz> |
no plugin was installed |
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<maxb> |
Laatz: Why do you expect yourtracurl/tags_demo to work? |
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<Laatz> |
what's the correct url? |
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<Laatz> |
maxb: I do not know. It was working that way, I upgaded and it is not working anymore. it is a live system so I feel rude |
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<Blackhex> |
hi all |
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<maxb> |
Laatz: /tags_demo is not an URL provided by Trac at all. If it was working before, it was something other than Trac making it work. Perhaps a Trac plugin. |
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<maxb> |
Hmm... "No handler matched request" produces a pretty error page with 0.9, but a text-only traceback with 0.10 |
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<Laatz> |
maxb: I put back the 0.9 but it says the db is newer. can I downgrade it somehow? |
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<maxb> |
Laatz: No, it is not possible to downgrade trac dbs. |
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<maxb> |
cmlenz: "No handler matched request" produces a pretty error page with 0.9, but a text-only traceback with 0.10 ... is this a bug? |
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<maxb> |
Laatz: What do you even expect to show up when you access /tags_demo ? |
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<maxb> |
Laatz: Clearly, you DID have a plugin. You just didn't know you did: trac-hacks TagsPlugin |
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<Laatz> |
http://threebit.net/mail-archive/trac/msg01104.html, I need this but I use postgres and I do not know how to write back the version of db |
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<Laatz> |
I _must_ do that |
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<maxb> |
Downgrading the database version requires that you have a good knowledge of SQL. |
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<Laatz> |
I have good knowledge of sql |
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<Laatz> |
so I renamed back that two columns but it is not enough |
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<Laatz> |
I think there's somewhere a version number but I can't find it |
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<Laatz> |
so, if it is possible to do it please help with some hints |
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<maxb> |
The version number is in the system table, but renaming those two columns may not be enough. The email you referred to related to db version 17, but current 0.10 uses db version 19 |
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<Laatz> |
ah..tnx |
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<maxb> |
DB version 18 involved *big* changes |
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<Laatz> |
hm, so It is no way, I can see now...thanks |
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<s0undt3ch> |
someone called me!? |
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<Laatz> |
so I installed back 0.10 I have some old databases too . Can I find which plUgin I need? all the stuff is behind apache |
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<vbgunz> |
I have subversion and subversion tools installed. I am trying to create an environment. how do I find out where my local subversion repositories are? |
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<maxb> |
vbgunz: They are whereever you put them. |
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<vbgunz> |
maybe I never put them somewhere :( |
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<vbgunz> |
I only installed sub and tools. do I have to 'add' /dir to make a repo? |
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<maxb> |
If you're going to be administering Subversion, you should read the Subversion Book. |
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<neuralis> |
or pick a vcs that doesn't require reading a book to administer. :) |
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<vbgunz> |
maxb: I am just trying to check out trac |
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<vbgunz> |
I might not like it but it looks like it'll be cool, just want to test it out |
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<maxb> |
'svnadmin create' |
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<vbgunz> |
I created a repo, I think |
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<vbgunz> |
yeah, I used that command :) |
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<vbgunz> |
maxb: I seemed to create a trac project without a problem, I'll continue reading the help to get it working with Apache, etc :) |
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<vbgunz> |
thansk |
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<Laatz> |
so I installed back 0.10 I have some old databases too . Can I find which plUgin I need? |
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<Laatz> |
all the stuff is behind apache |
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<maxb> |
Why are you attempting to upgrade trac without even knowing which plugins are in use? |
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<maxb> |
And why can't you just look on your system to find out? |
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<maxb> |
And what's "all the stuff is behind apache" got to do with plugins? |
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<Laatz> |
I understand. bye |
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<Laatz> |
I stay maybe some athers can help me to |
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<Laatz> |
you are very very nice and helpful guys here :p |
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<Yury_> |
Hi |
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<Yury_> |
I have problems to enable code Syntax Coloring |
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<Yury_> |
I have installed SilverCity 0.9.5 but still doesn't work |
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<Yury_> |
what else should I do? |
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<Yury_> |
I want to color csharp and sql files |
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<yury2> |
is anybody here? |
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<Blackhex> |
me, but I dont know |
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<yury2> |
m.. |
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<coderanger> |
I don't think silvercity does C# by default |
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<coderanger> |
Both should do SQL though |
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<coderanger> |
In fact neither backend supports C# |
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<neuralis> |
coderanger: ping |
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<coderanger> |
Alo |
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<yury2> |
coderanger: are still here? |
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<coderanger> |
yep |
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<yury2> |
si installed silvercity but get plane text %( |
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<coderanger> |
For what? |
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<yury2> |
for sql |
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<coderanger> |
Are you setting the mime type correctly? |
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<yury2> |
errr.... i didn't set it |
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<yury2> |
where should i set it? |
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<yury2> |
"To activate syntax coloring, simply install either one (or more) of these packages. No additional configuration is required" |
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<yury2> |
from http://projects.edgewall.com/trac/wiki/TracSyntaxColoring |
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<coderanger> |
Yes, but silvercity needs to know what syntax to use for each file |
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<coderanger> |
the MIME type should be text/plain |
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<coderanger> |
and the file should end in ".sql" |
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<coderanger> |
You can also try application/x-sql and text/x-sql |
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<yury2> |
where I should set MIME type? |
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<coderanger> |
in subversion |
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<coderanger> |
Yep, Trac expects text/x-sql |
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<coderanger> |
If the filename ends in .sql, it will also work |
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<NK`> |
em |
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<NK`> |
is it possible to set the original format as default in the browser ? |
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<NK`> |
to browse php project for an exemple |
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<yury2> |
ahhhh. got it! |
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<yury2> |
my file ends with .SQL |
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<NK`> |
anyone know ? |
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<yury2> |
end trac didn't get it %( |
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<yury2> |
I need sql in lower case |
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<coderanger> |
yury2: I would file a bug report |
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<coderanger> |
NK`: What do you mean? |
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<NK`> |
coderanger: I was wondering if it is possible to browse my php projet which is in subversion without have to checkout it into an apache directory |
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<coderanger> |
You can view the source files if thats what you mean |
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<NK`> |
coderanger: do you know if it's possible ? |
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<coderanger> |
Trac can't run a PHP program |
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<NK`> |
em |
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<NK`> |
when you ask for the original format of php files |
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<NK`> |
they are executed I think |
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<coderanger> |
No, they are passed to the PHP compiler for hilighting |
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<NK`> |
so maybe it's possible to ask trac to set the original format as default |
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<coderanger> |
What do you mean by "original format" |
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<NK`> |
em into trac browser there is an original format button |
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<NK`> |
(I believe) |
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<coderanger> |
Yes, that just suspends all processing and dumps the file out |
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<NK`> |
coderanger: do you know something that can help to browse subversion php projets ? |
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<dilinger> |
can anyone recommend some invoicing/billing software? |
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<dilinger> |
in ruby or python |
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<dilinger> |
(a trac plugin would be awesome, but i didn't see anything) |
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<coderanger> |
NK`: Trac can browse PHP just fine |
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<NK`> |
coderanger: yes but it will show the source only, does'nt it ? |
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<coderanger> |
NK`: Are you saying you want something that will execute PHP code directly out of subversion? |
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<NK`> |
coderanger: yes |
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<NK`> |
coderanger: something a bit like that |
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<coderanger> |
I very much hope that doesn't exist |
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<coderanger> |
It just screams "Look at me, I'm a security hole" |
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<coderanger> |
More realisticaly I would say you should make a post-commit hook at that updates a live copy somewhere |
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<misc> |
well, a auditable and revertable security hole , thanks to svn |
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<NK`> |
coderanger: I see what you means but subversion can prevent not know user to add anything |
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<NK`> |
it 's necessary a security hole |
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<coderanger> |
misc: The problem would be that if you ever had a security hole, then that version would be runable |
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<coderanger> |
I suppose you could rig up some kind of "you are allowed to run only these revisions" system |
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<misc> |
coderanger: that is a nice effect :) and a big feature ( from the security hole point of view, of course ) |
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<coderanger> |
Things like this are exactly why post-commit hooks exist |
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<NK`> |
coderanger: I can add into crond a command to checkout my projet into an apache directory |
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<NK`> |
but it's really clean |
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<NK`> |
+not |
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<NK`> |
(what are post-commit hooks ?) |
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<coderanger> |
http://svnbook.red-bean.com/nightly/en/svn.reposadmin.create.html#svn.reposadmin.create.hooks |
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<coderanger> |
A script that is run after every commit |
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<NK`> |
okay I see |
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<coocoon> |
hello |
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<coocoon> |
may i ask if there is anywhere a documentation how to become the webstyle of trac to work |
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<coocoon> |
have access to dev.home.tld but it looks very boring |
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<coocoon> |
;-) |
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<coocoon> |
i do not know exactly where are the templates stored or how tio implement them |
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<coocoon> |
emerged it with gentoo |
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<coocoon> |
hm i am sorry i have it ;-) |
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<coocoon> |
thanx a lot http://cade.datamax.bg/away/docs/web_bart-google.gif.jpg ;-) |
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<k_o_f_t> |
Rob Levin ( aka lilo ) is a charlatan |
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<coocoon> |
hello someone there |
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<coocoon> |
boorad: morning |
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<boorad> |
howdy |
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<boorad> |
almost bedtime here |
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<coocoon> |
boorad: i need a little bit help here with trac |
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<boorad> |
k, I have a few mins |
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<coocoon> |
boorad: i use gentoo and emerging of trac works fine now ;-) |
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<coocoon> |
boorad: i am newbie in gentoo and also in trac |
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<coocoon> |
boorad: which doesn't mean i am newbie in linux |
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<boorad> |
what's the issue you're having? |
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<coocoon> |
boorad: but my problem is to get the browser of trac |
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<coocoon> |
boorad: apache works |
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<coocoon> |
boorad: trac messages are that it can't find clearsilver but it is installed also get exception errors after starting tracd |
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<boorad> |
what exception errors? |
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<coocoon> |
boorad: socket errors |
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<boorad> |
what port did you start tracd on? |
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<boorad> |
anything else there? |
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<coocoon> |
mom |
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<coocoon> |
boorad: sorry i have deinstalled trac |
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<coocoon> |
boorad: thanx for ur try |
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<coocoon> |
maybe later it will work |
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<coocoon> |
so i coome back |
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<boorad> |
check the docs at the website in the title |
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<boorad> |
it works and is great, but setup isn't too easy just yet - it will be, and it's worth it. |
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<coocoon> |
boorad: docs a lot of there |
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<coocoon> |
;-) |
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<boorad> |
and Gentoo should be easy after emerge - is there a post-build script or tasks to be done? check Portage's logs |
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<coocoon> |
boorad: ok thanx |
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<boorad> |
and decide whether to use tracd or Apache with either mod_python or FastCGI (or CGI, I guess) |
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<boorad> |
good luck - later |
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<coocoon> |
boorad: ok |
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<coocoon> |
if i use apache i do not need tracd |
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<coocoon> |
right |
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<coocoon> |
to start i mean |
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<coocoon> |
starting tracd |
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<boorad> |
you do not need both |
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<boorad> |
I use Apache and FastCGI |
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<coocoon> |
boorad: ah ok fastcgi is better than mod_python u think |
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<boorad> |
I had some issues with mod_python, but I'm doing some funky stuff |
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<coocoon> |
ah ok |
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<coocoon> |
thanx a lot |
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<boorad> |
others think mod_python is fine |
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<coocoon> |
fast cgi installlation is very complicated i thought i have treid it under debian |
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<coocoon> |
so i mdecided to install mod_python |
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<coocoon> |
but with gentoo it could be easier |
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<boorad> |
http://projects.edgewall.com/trac/wiki/TracFastCgi |
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<coocoon> |
boorad: how to implement clearsilver and start it |
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<boorad> |
emerge clearsilver |
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<coocoon> |
i do not found any docs |
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<boorad> |
that's pretty much it - you don't need to start it |
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<boorad> |
it will be called from the Python code when needed |
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<coocoon> |
thats all ok, but where to configure it |
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<coocoon> |
that apache finds it |
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<boorad> |
I have only done "emerge clearsilver" and then it works |
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<coocoon> |
ok |
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<coocoon> |
i will ask later more |
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