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<asmodai> |
moin cmlenz |
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<didier> |
hi |
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<cmlenz> |
hi asmodai |
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<asmodai> |
How's life? |
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<cmlenz> |
fine |
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<tuxipuxi> |
anybody know if the mantis2trac script works with 0.9.5? |
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<tic> |
Anyone working on the ReStructuredText macro for Trac? With a =======\n Title\n====== you get a <h1 class="title">. Then, I do a Heading\n======= and get a <h1>. After that I have SubHeading\n~~~~~~~~~~~ but get a *new* <h1> there. How come? |
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<tic> |
that's actually in http://projects.edgewall.com/trac/ticket/1077 - but that sounds weird; restructuredtext should handle those kind of headings said there. Dunno if Trac passes them on wrong? |
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<wkornew> |
hey tic |
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<ubulfluff> |
hi |
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<ubulfluff> |
is it possible to set TracTags of a wiki by a custom com control like a select on some pages? |
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<tic> |
15 |
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<ubulfluff> |
I wrote a html form to do this but the edit method of a page requires page version too...Is there a macro to query page version? |
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<coderanger_> |
morning y'all |
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<coderanger_> |
Hmm, is there any decent way to store arbitrary data (a dict in this case) in custom ticket fields? |
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<coderanger_> |
sqlite doesn't like picked data because of the newlines (i think) |
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<bnovc> |
can i convert an existing trac instance from sqllite to mysql |
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<coderanger_> |
probably, just sqlite /path/to/db .dump | mysql tracdb |
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<bnovc> |
i'm not sure where trac put the database |
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<bnovc> |
i would try that and then do database = mysql:tracdb? |
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<coderanger_> |
by default the sqlite db is /path/to/env/db/trac.db |
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<chillywilly> |
I just upgraded my system and for some reason I cannot add a ticket...it just spins...I have nothing in the trac or apache logs (in fact I see no files in the log entry for that trac instance) anyone have any ideas how I can debug this? |
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<chillywilly> |
upgraded Ubuntu that is |
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<chillywilly> |
the OS |
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<chillywilly> |
s/entry/dir/ |
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<bnovc> |
coderanger_: what client should i use to connect to sqlite to run that dump |
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<bnovc> |
i dont have a 'sqlite' binary(at least in my path) |
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<chillywilly> |
I tested the database connection too with phppgadmin |
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<chillywilly> |
didn't try to insert anything as that user though |
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<bnovc> |
and locate sqlite|grep bin is empty |
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<coderanger_> |
bnovc: sqlite3 |
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<bnovc> |
coderanger_: dont have that |
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<chillywilly> |
my trac db user can write to the db too |
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<coderanger_> |
Are you sure you have sqlite install? |
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<bnovc> |
i dont have any binaries with sqlite in the name |
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<chillywilly> |
I just inserted a record with phppgadmin |
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<bnovc> |
coderanger_: well, trac is working fine and it says its using it |
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<bnovc> |
oh, i see a package i can get |
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<bnovc> |
i'll try that |
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<chillywilly> |
I can view tickets and search thinngs, just seems the POST to add a ticket never completes |
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<bnovc> |
chillywilly: tried it from another computer? |
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<chillywilly> |
yep |
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<chillywilly> |
same issue |
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<chillywilly> |
my partner in crime tried it out for me |
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<chillywilly> |
;P |
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<chillywilly> |
just sits and spins |
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<bnovc> |
coderanger_: dumping it into mysql gives errors |
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<bnovc> |
on the first line ;) |
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<bnovc> |
jesus, this thing is 8300 lines |
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<bnovc> |
guess i have to manually run segments of this |
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<coderanger_> |
bnovc: I suppose the SQL sqlite produces is not compatible with MySQL then |
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<bnovc> |
#1170 - BLOB/TEXT column 'name' used in key specification without a key length |
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<bnovc> |
i get that on the table it tries to make |
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<bnovc> |
i'm not sure how to fix that, apparently text fields can't be primary keys |
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<bnovc> |
it works if i take off PRIMAR KEY |
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<bnovc> |
and every insert into is wrong |
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<bnovc> |
it quotes the tables |
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<ubulfluff> |
hi |
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<mef> |
I'm having a problem with the 0.9.5 contrib/trac-post-commit-hook ... when the script attemps to close a ticket due to a "fixes" keyword, it errors out with "Unexpected error while processing ticket ID 8: columns ticket, time, field are not unique" on line 140: ticket.save_changes(self.author, self.msg, self.now). I believe it's because I'm using multiple trac_env's with one svn repo, can anyone offer any insight? |
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<coderanger_> |
mef: Thats a database error |
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<coderanger_> |
Sounds like the auto-increment broke |
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<coderanger_> |
bnovc: You may have better luck doing the transfer in python |
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<mef> |
coderanger_, I see... would deleting the rows from table ticket and then reimporting them, letting sqlite work the autoincrement fix it do you think? |
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<coderanger_> |
mef: No idea, try it and find out ;-) |
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<coderanger_> |
(though I would backup your db first) |
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<ubulfluff> |
I need some form handling on some wiki pages, storing some properties of wiki, is it possible? |
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<mef> |
Good advice. One question, what indicates to you that it's an auto_increment problem? This script should only be doing an UPDATE query |
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<coderanger_> |
mef: No, ticket_changes are stored in their own table, one row per change |
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<mef> |
oh, I see that now |
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<coderanger_> |
ubulfluff: What are you trying to do |
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<bnovc> |
coderanger_: i dont know any python, so probably not |
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<bnovc> |
i think ill just make a perl script to convert what SQL i can find thats different |
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<ubulfluff> |
coderanger_: Actually I use TracTags. So I want a select to some pages to choose tag instead of the default text edit |
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<coderanger_> |
ubulfluff: That is not currently possible |
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<mef> |
coderanger_: found the problem... my commit message had "re #8, fixes #8 |
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<mef> |
" |
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<mef> |
I guess if you comment and fix a ticket in the same line, you hit a unique key collision |
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<mef> |
dunno if that's a bug, but the script ends up adding the comment, but not closing the ticket |
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<ubulfluff> |
coderanger_: ok, tnx |
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<mef> |
coderanger_, what do you think, should I file a ticket at edgewall? |
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<coderanger_> |
Yes |
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<bnovc> |
when i do login in trac, i get these headers but never get redirected http://pastebin.com/731627 |
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<asmodai> |
ey coderanger_ |
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<mef> |
coderanger_, submitted. thanks again for your help. |
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<coderanger_> |
asmodai: alo |
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<asmodai> |
coderanger_: How's tricks? |
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<coderanger_> |
hmm? |
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<coderanger_> |
Has anyone ever gotten a "OperationalError: near "/": syntax error" with sqlite before? |
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<asmodai> |
how's tricks = how's life/how's it going |
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<coderanger_> |
asmodai: Heh, not bad |
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<coderanger_> |
work continues to be annoying |
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<coderanger_> |
and I don't understand why I am getting errors from Trac with this new plugin |
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<coderanger_> |
how bout you? |
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<asmodai> |
Work sucks hard at the moment. |
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<asmodai> |
I'm supposed to be hired to do innovation and research |
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<asmodai> |
instead I'm doing sysadmin and god knows how many helpdesk things |
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<asmodai> |
only because a certain percentage of my direct colleagues are too dumb to help out |
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<coderanger_> |
asmodai: Sounds like what I do all day |
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<asmodai> |
You also work a uni library? |
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<coderanger_> |
Uni computer helpdesk |
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<coderanger_> |
frontline tech support :-/ |
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<asmodai> |
ouch. |
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<asmodai> |
You got separate helldesks per faculty or one central one? |
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<coderanger_> |
some depts have a tech guy, but we are the main one |
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<bnovc> |
how do i rename a wiki page? |
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<coderanger_> |
bnovc: download WikiRename from trac-hacks |
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<bnovc> |
k |
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<bnovc> |
thanks |
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<bnovc> |
why aren't the "hacks" built into trac? |
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<asmodai> |
coderanger_: we have a helldesk per faculty as well as for the library. Guess what's happening at the moment. ;) |
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<coderanger_> |
With rename support, its planned but waiting on a few other things |
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<coderanger_> |
So that hack is just a temporary thing (for various definitions of temporary) |
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<coderanger_> |
asmodai: Those other ones are just persistent illusions, they don't really exist ;-) |
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<wadeb> |
hi all. is there a plugin for trac to create tickets by sending emails to an address that is associated with trac? like, a daemon that would watch a pop account. |
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<coderanger_> |
wadeb: email2trac on trac-hacks |
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<wadeb> |
ty! |
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<tic> |
coderanger_, is there really more to it than "update wiki set name=foo where name=bar"? |
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<coderanger_> |
asmodai: OOC, what do you guys use for incident tracking? |
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<coderanger_> |
tic: Yes |
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<coderanger_> |
tic: You need to move things like attachemnts and other metadata |
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<tic> |
Oh, nm |
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<tic> |
well, true. |
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<coderanger_> |
tic: And then you need to find links to the page and change them |
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<tic> |
Yeah, I just remembered that one. :) |
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<tic> |
gets trick with different mimeviewers. |
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<tic> |
trycky |
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<tic> |
beh. _tricky_ |
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<coderanger_> |
WikiRename currently only rewrites explicit links ([wiki:foo]) and only in wiki pages |
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<tic> |
Ok. |
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<tic> |
Need to do that in tickets and such, too. |
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<tic> |
and commit messages! yay, fun fun. |
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<wadeb> |
ok, one more q: has anyone written an importer for best practical RT? http://www.bestpractical.com/rt/ |
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<coderanger_> |
And now you see where it gets annoying ;-) |
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<tic> |
coderanger_, right. :) I've previously just done naive renames where I don't reference it from anywhere. |
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<tic> |
coderanger_, btw, do you think Trac is suitable for use as an app server? You've got auth and a nice wiki, after-all. :) |
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<coderanger_> |
tic: We use it at work as such |
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<tic> |
coderanger_, cool. |
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<tic> |
realized that a CMS is way more annoying than a (read-only) wiki for content. only problem is that you'd like to have your custom stuff within the wiki, say a photo album or some such. Do you base everything on the wiki and add plugins for the functionality, or what's the easiest way? |
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<bnovc> |
is there an 'egg' file for webadmin like the plugin installation tutorial says to use? |
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<tic> |
(I'm working on a photo album, that's why.) |
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<coderanger_> |
tic: There is actually a partial gallery plugin already |
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<coderanger_> |
bnovc: Its attached to the WebAdmin wiki page |
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<bnovc> |
the problem was a missing python extension |
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<bnovc> |
i didn't have the setuptools package |
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<tic> |
coderanger_, I really dislike the templating engine used by Trac, so that's why I'm staying out of it. I've done a mockup at http://mikael.jansson.be/photos/photo.html -- customizing Trac to make it fit into that was very hard last time I checked, clashing CSS files, etc. |
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<tic> |
(hard to have self-contained things, often need to patch the base Trac source) |
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<coderanger_> |
tic: Not working from a plugin |
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<coderanger_> |
You get total control over the output |
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<tic> |
Hm? |
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<tic> |
Ah, cool. |
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<tic> |
Although.. That doesn't solve the layout/css in Trac in general. |
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<coderanger_> |
Its pretty flexible |
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<coderanger_> |
I mean look at http://python-trac.swapoff.org/ |
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<tic> |
It's certainly *doable*, just requires a huge amount of time because Trac's not supposed to be used like that :) For example, I tried merging WordPress and Trac to get a coherent look (my own, not the Trac default one), which took me a lot of time and in the end didn't quite work. |
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<bnovc> |
i have done a checkout on this plugin but there is no egg file .. svn co http://trac-hacks.org/svn/hackinstallplugin |
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<tic> |
How interesting, both Trac-Hacks and Python-Trac are not responding. |
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<bnovc> |
there is a setup.py but it will not run; am i just being stupid about this? |
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<tic> |
there, trac-hacks on again. |
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<coderanger_> |
bnovc: HackInstal currently quasifunctional |
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<tic> |
coderanger_, the Python Trac instance is really nice, yeah. |
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<bnovc> |
oh, you literally type bdist_egg...i thought that was a file name :| |
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<bnovc> |
well, thats better now :) now it dies on a missing python file |
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<coderanger_> |
tic: Check out http://trac-hacks.org/wiki/GalleryPlugin |
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<coderanger_> |
Its a place to start if nothing else |
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<asmodai> |
coderanger_: my helldesk: TOPDesk |
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<asmodai> |
coderanger_: some inferior piece of software running on Windows |
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<asmodai> |
coderanger_: I've been waging a battle to get it changed. |
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<tic> |
coderanger_, saw it. Broken links to brucec's site and nowhere to see it in use :) Tahanks though. |
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<asmodai> |
BUt 90% of my team never dealt with proper incident tracking. |
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<tic> |
I think I should try to go home. |
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<asmodai> |
So I am the only idiot that really uses it next to the main helldesk guy to really record information |
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<bnovc> |
the trac admin page SAYS i can just download this and put it in plugins but that does not work |
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<bnovc> |
and /log has no files |
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<coderanger_> |
bnovc: Did you download the file or the HTML prview? |
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<coderanger_> |
asmodai: We too are using some crazy IIS/ASP based junk (Applix iHelpdesk) |
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<asmodai> |
coderanger_: It's annoying eh? I mean, there's so many better systems out there. |
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<coderanger_> |
asmodai: Yeah, I am slowly trying to get it (and our POS list manager) replaced |
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<asmodai> |
I am trying to get that and my manager replaced :) |
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<bnovc> |
coderanger_: i have egg files |
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<bnovc> |
i tried the prebuild and i tried building them |
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<bnovc> |
i have 2 egg files in my plugins directory and neither are loaded |
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<coderanger_> |
is your log set to DEBUG? |
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<bnovc> |
yes |
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<bnovc> |
log_type is none though |
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<coderanger_> |
make that "file" |
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<bnovc> |
hm, after restarting apache, trac wont even load so i'll figure that out first i guess |
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<hacim> |
I'm having trouble installing the TicketDelete plugin, I built it, I copied the egg to the project plugins directory, I restarted apache... but I dont see anything under the Ticket section of the webadmin area |
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<coderanger_> |
hacim: Anything in the log? |
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<hacim> |
I'll check |
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<hacim> |
coderanger_: no |
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<bnovc> |
http://home.bnovc.com/trac_error.log |
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<bnovc> |
thats what happened |
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<hacim> |
coderanger_: this is with 0.10 |
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<coderanger_> |
bnovc: You need to install TracCtxtnavAdd |
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<bnovc> |
another plugin? |
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<coderanger_> |
Yes, its a dependency |
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<bnovc> |
ok. |
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<coderanger_> |
or just easy_install TracWikiRename |
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<bnovc> |
i'm going to move this trac install to another server soon so i'd rather make it just for this instance |
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<hacim> |
coderanger_: shouldn't this sentence be switched around, "There will be a new WebAdmin sub-page in the Ticket category called 'Delete'" -- shouldn't it be "There will be a new Ticket sub-page in the WebAdmin category called 'delete'" |
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<hacim> |
or... I'm looking in the wrong place |
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<coderanger_> |
It is a "WebAdmin sub-page" |
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<coderanger_> |
In the Ticket category |
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<hacim> |
ok yeah, that makes sense |
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<bnovc> |
coderanger_: is that plugin not on trac-hacks? |
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<hacim> |
unfortunately, I've only got Components, Milestones, Priorities, Severities, Ticket Types, and Versions, no Delete :P |
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<coderanger_> |
bnovc: It should be |
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<bnovc> |
a search brought me to an empty page |
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<coderanger_> |
hacim: Do you see the plugin loading? |
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<coderanger_> |
http://trac-hacks.org/wiki/CtxtnavAddPlugin |
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<hacim> |
coderanger_: I need to change my loglevel to something more verbose to see that? I've just got log_level = WARN |
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<coderanger_> |
hacim: set it to DEBUG |
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<hacim> |
coderanger_: yes, I see the plugin loading |
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<hacim> |
2006-06-26 18:30:36,091 Trac[loader] DEBUG: Loading plugin ticketdelete.web_ui from /usr/lib/python2.3/site-packages/TracTicketDelete-1.0-py2.3.egg |
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<coderanger_> |
hacim: What if you go to "/admin/ticket/delete" |
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<hacim> |
coderanger_: Unknown Admin Page |
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<coderanger_> |
Do you have TRAC_ADMIN? |
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<bnovc> |
coderanger_: i installed that plugin and the same thing happens |
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<hacim> |
coderanger_: yes |
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<bnovc> |
coderanger_: http://home.bnovc.com/trac.log |
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<bnovc> |
i get that with a 500 internal error |
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<bnovc> |
apache's error log is empty |
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<bnovc> |
ok i restarted apache again and the page loads w/no extensions |
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<bnovc> |
nevermind, thats because i moved the plguins |
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<bnovc> |
and if i remove everything but that cx pacakage i get an internal error with some trac stuff around it saying 'ModPythonRequest' object has no attribute 'href' |
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<coderanger_> |
bnovc: Are you using the wrong version? |
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<bnovc> |
coderanger_: i dont think so, i used python setup.py |
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<coderanger_> |
You would see that error if you used the 0.10 version on a 0.9 Trac |
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<bnovc> |
this is really frustrating...every time i refresh i get something different |
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<bnovc> |
i'm not using any prepackaged eggs |
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<bnovc> |
i'm building them |
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<coderanger_> |
There are still different code branches for 0.9 and 0.10 |
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<bnovc> |
oh! you're probably right |
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<bnovc> |
i thought that was a version of ctxt |
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<coderanger_> |
That would explain why nothing is working :P |
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<bnovc> |
coderanger_: awesome, thanks! |
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<bnovc> |
coderanger_: so rename only works on newer trac? |
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<coderanger_> |
No, you just need to use the correct version |
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<bnovc> |
i get an error about 50% of the time i load /admin |
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<bnovc> |
that there is no handler |
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<bnovc> |
the other 50% it seems to work fine |
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<coderanger_> |
0.10 has some non-backwards-compatible changes |
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<coderanger_> |
Whats the log say? |
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<coderanger_> |
And are you running 0.9? |
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<bnovc> |
yea |
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<bnovc> |
the unstable debian package |
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<coderanger_> |
Probably a load order issue |
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<coderanger_> |
The only solution is to upgrade |
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<coderanger_> |
0.10 has load order checking, 0.9 doesn;t |
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<coderanger_> |
As a possible fix you can try installing CtxtnavAdd as a system plugin and WikiRename as a local plugin |
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<bnovc> |
eh..perhaps after a while |
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<bnovc> |
thanks for the info |
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<coderanger_> |
You can also try fidling with the names to get them to load in the correct order |
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<bnovc> |
/wikirenameplugin/0.9 |
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<coderanger_> |
thats the correct version, yes |
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<bnovc> |
i compiled that one and put it in plugins and have no rename button |
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<bnovc> |
coderanger_: put them in alphabetic order to load or what? |
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<coderanger_> |
bnovc: Its system dependent, it uses the "directory ordering" |
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<coderanger_> |
Whatever that happens to be |
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<bnovc> |
oh, ok |
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<bnovc> |
coderanger_: is there any command i can use to see that listing |
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<bnovc> |
ls shows them in the right order but its alphabetic by default i think |
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<coderanger_> |
no |
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<pacopablo> |
@faq logging |
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<evil_twin> |
pacopablo: "logging" is http://projects.edgewall.com/trac/wiki/TracLogging <-- Enable debug logging to file, ensure your environments log/ directory is writeable by your web server user, check for errors. |
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<coderanger_> |
man 3 readdir |
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<pacopablo> |
restart your server and watch which order they load in |
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<coderanger_> |
hey pp |
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<pacopablo> |
hey :) |
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<pacopablo> |
why do conversions suck so much? |
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<coderanger_> |
pixies |
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<coderanger_> |
whatr you converting frome/to? |
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<pacopablo> |
GroupStupid to WORLDOX |
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<pacopablo> |
the reaction to that from the WORLDOX tech support was along the lines of: oh, that sucks, I'm sorry. |
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<coderanger_> |
I've come to the conclusion that any software that uses the term "Enterprise" should be dragged out into the street and shot |
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<pacopablo> |
pretty much |
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<pacopablo> |
Enterprise just means: a) it costs more, b) it's harder to use, and c) there isn't any documentation available unless you pay more. |
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<asmodai> |
GroupStupid? |
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<asmodai> |
GroupWise |
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<asmodai> |
? |
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<pacopablo> |
yeah |
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<pacopablo> |
it's an evil bastard |
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<pacopablo> |
same with sExchange |
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