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July 01, 2006

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[03:51:21] <veleno> hello. for some reasons i don't see the Milestone and the Roadmap view. i have the following settings http://rafb.net/paste/results/cBNbqu70.html
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[06:48:29] <prologic> http://pastebin.shortcircuit.net.au/41
[06:48:36] <prologic> why isn't the __del__ being called ?
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[07:37:26] <ubulfluff> hi
[07:38:10] <ubulfluff> can I reach form variables within a simple macro?
[07:38:33] <ubulfluff> or do I need a plugin for this?
[07:47:37] <ubulfluff> hm, hdf would help :)
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[10:17:39] <maxb> prologic: Components never die, I think
[10:21:12] <matt_good> prologic: that only deletes your local reference to it, but the component manager will still have a reference
[10:23:00] <maxb> Somehow, it still seems to live on after you delete the manager, too. Reference cycle?
[10:35:46] <prologic> oh
[10:35:50] <prologic> my question from before
[10:35:50] <prologic> hehe
[10:35:55] <prologic> I actually solved it
[10:36:04] <prologic> not sure if the implementation is good but it works
[10:37:17] <prologic> I created a method called unregister in my Component class (similar but different to Trac's)
[10:37:32] <prologic> which unregisters it's filters/listeners attached to the event manager
[10:38:48] <alect> hi
[10:38:57] <prologic> hi alect
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[10:48:41] <asmodai> alectje!
[10:48:42] <[ArGroup]Seth> Hi guys - very quick question
[10:48:56] <[ArGroup]Seth> How do I add extra fields to the ticket form?
[10:51:31] <s0undt3ch> pacopablo: hello there! are you arround?DBD-Pg
[10:51:34] <s0undt3ch> oops
[10:51:35] <s0undt3ch> lol
[10:51:38] <s0undt3ch> pacopablo: hello there! are you arround?
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[11:08:52] <[ArGroup]Seth> anybody?
[11:09:43] <s0undt3ch> somebody :)
[11:10:09] <s0undt3ch> sorry, don't know the answer to your question
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[12:05:01] <alect> hey prologic, asmodai :)
[12:16:40] <alect> osx is awesome
[12:38:07] <mitsuhiko> alect: yeah. ships more propritary formats than windows
[12:38:11] <mitsuhiko> that's awesome
[12:38:43] <s0undt3ch> proprietary stuff is not neat
[12:44:22] <alect> they're formats, it's not like you have to use them
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[13:30:22] <mitsuhiko> alect: then why should i use mac os x?
[13:30:38] <mitsuhiko> then i have to install free software which I can do on ubuntu too
[13:30:48] <mitsuhiko> i like mac os X because of the software
[13:30:53] <mitsuhiko> but the file formats just suck
[13:32:09] <alect> i don't care if you use it or not. each to their own
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[14:18:26] <coderanger_> alo
[14:28:04] <alect> hey coderanger
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[15:20:04] <Jonty> I'm installing Trac, and I've done the swig-py thing with Subversion. While I've got Python to use the python files created, it still can't find the shared libraries created. How can I make it do that?
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[15:23:37] <Jonty> Anyone?
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[16:04:29] <Jonty> I'm installing Trac, and I've done the swig-py thing with Subversion. While I've got Python to use the python files created, it still can't find the shared libraries created. How can I make it do that?
[16:05:42] <Jonty> In other words, how can I make the files SWIG outputs work properly with Python (2.4)?
[16:09:05] <matt_good> Jonty: you may want to check on #svn for help building the bindings
[16:09:56] <Jonty> thanks
[16:10:30] <Jonty> Heh. I was about to type in cd ./svn. I've been at the shell too much installing Trac :(
[16:11:34] <matt_good> good the shell is your friend ;) (unless you're on Windows)
[16:12:58] <Jonty> Indeed. In which case it is a serious health risk :D
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[16:37:07] <wycats> Is there a way to call one macro from another?
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[16:46:16] <matt_good> wycats: what macro are you trying to call?
[16:47:12] <wycats> SubWiki
[16:47:14] <wycats> and ParentWiki
[16:48:39] <matt_good> on Trac 0.9.x or 0.10-dev?
[16:49:39] <matt_good> actually it looks like it's the same
[16:50:53] <matt_good> well, it depends on the style of macro
[16:53:07] <matt_good> you need to implement the macro in a plugin like this example: http://trac-hacks.org/browser/easterplugin/0.9
[16:53:59] <matt_good> then you could do "WikiProcessor(env, 'SubWiki').process(req, 'macro parameters', True)
[16:54:24] <wycats> =-o
[16:54:33] <wycats> I think I'm just gonna stick with the two macros ;)
[16:54:45] <wycats> I combined them... made one new one ;)
[16:54:50] <matt_good> heh
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[17:21:00] <wycats> I'm having an issue with env.href.wiki(page)
[17:21:19] <wycats> if I pass a list as such (x, y, z)
[17:21:37] <wycats> it considers it as " y" and thus I get a link to http://root/ y
[17:23:15] <wycats> sorry... fixed it ;)
[17:23:18] <wycats> added .strip()
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[17:43:04] <coderanger_> wycats: Depending on what you are doing, you may want to look at the HierWiki plugin on trac-hacks
[17:43:16] <coderanger_> It has both subwiki and parentwiki as plugins
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[18:51:44] <wladston> anyone ?
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[19:01:46] <coderanger_> wladston: Try asking a question
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[19:04:28] <wladston> thanks coderanger_ :) well, I'm starting to implement trac and I wonder what is the most effective way to define milestones ...
[19:04:48] <coderanger_> you mean how to actually enter them?
[19:05:07] <wladston> well, no ...i see how it works, but I don't get the idea ..
[19:05:22] <coderanger_> Look at how the Trac site uses them
[19:05:35] <coderanger_> Personally I don't use them on most of my sites
[19:05:40] <wladston> of what a milestone is suposed to reprensent on a project ... yeah - looking atm
[19:06:19] <wladston> it's like a version release ...
[19:09:44] <wycats> Is there a way to stick something at the top of every wikipage?
[19:10:50] <wladston> my project woudn't be able to use milestones like trac uses - the team prefer not to plan toooo far on the future - so I'm wondering if I can addapt it to be a general "objective grouper" system ... or of it's best not to use it
[19:12:52] <Squee-D> umm establish a milestone for what needs to be done next
[19:12:56] <Squee-D> and one for later?
[19:13:38] <wladston> hum .... yeah, why not ?? :)
[19:13:50] <matt_good> wladston: yeah, I often only have one or two open milestones on my projects
[19:14:30] <matt_good> but it keeps things grouped together that you want in the next release, and you have a history of items completed w/ each release
[19:14:47] <wladston> huumm .. yeah
[19:15:02] <wladston> the problem is that the Components of the project are not soo related ... :/
[19:15:08] <Squee-D> release processes ftw
[19:15:23] <wladston> we have different applications that togueter make up the project
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[19:15:50] <Squee-D> do they originate from a common set of libraries?
[19:16:05] <wladston> no. Actualy we are starting
[19:16:07] <Squee-D> or perhaps target a specific 'system' ?
[19:16:15] <Squee-D> you might want more than one trac instance
[19:16:21] <matt_good> wycats: no
[19:16:25] <wladston> the project is to make up an open source firmware or an mp3 player
[19:16:31] <wladston> *for an
[19:17:40] <Squee-D> its really easy to produce seperate instances of trac, least it seems so to me
[19:17:44] <wladston> there is the hardware simulator, the firmare kernel+api, and another program to debug on the player ..
[19:18:41] <Squee-D> other thing is to just have milestones with particular prefixes?
[19:19:03] <coderanger_> This is a prime example of why tracforge is needed!
[19:19:10] <Squee-D> sim_1.0 firm_0.2 and pdg_2.1 ?
[19:19:16] <wladston> yeah
[19:19:20] <wladston> kind of ..
[19:19:29] <wladston> no, that's it :)
[19:19:54] <Squee-D> you gotta have milestones, they're very satisfying :)
[19:20:02] <Squee-D> and help provide a focus.
[19:20:07] <wladston> yeah, I can imagine !
[19:20:14] <Squee-D> just dont move them on people
[19:20:40] <coderanger_> They can also be very generic
[19:20:42] <coderanger_> "Soon
[19:20:43] <Squee-D> establish a change and feature creep process with the project managers
[19:20:46] <coderanger_> Future
[19:20:48] <coderanger_> etc etc
[19:21:32] <wladston> the problem is that i don't know if we can place all the objectives as milestones ... i'm very confused :s
[19:21:37] <Squee-D> i think its generally worth being specific tho.
[19:22:23] <[ArGroup]Seth> Hi guys
[19:22:38] <[ArGroup]Seth> Quick question for ya coderanger_
[19:22:52] <[ArGroup]Seth> How do I add extra fields to the ticket form?
[19:23:09] <wladston> this is on the faq ... trac.ini iirc
[19:23:28] <coderanger_> [ArGroup]Seth: TicketCustomFields
[19:23:28] <wladston> oh sorry - manual
[19:24:24] <[ArGroup]Seth> aha. thanks
[19:24:39] <wycats> Do macros not work inside headers?
[19:24:50] <coderanger_> headings you mean?
[19:25:08] <wycats> yeah
[19:25:22] <coderanger_> because the wiki parser is very simple, it checks for headings before macros probably
[19:25:43] <coderanger_> Just have your macro output <h*> tags
[19:25:50] <wycats> hmmm
[19:25:53] <wycats> it's not specific to the header
[19:26:16] <wladston> Squee-D : i'll stick with your idea of using prefixes and i'll try to work with milestones like the trac web page ... thanks for the suggestion ;)
[19:26:19] <wycats> it's one part of the header
[19:26:37] <coderanger_> wycats: Got an example?
[19:26:52] <wycats> === [[Expression]].text() ===
[19:28:06] <matt_good> wycats: most formatting is not allowed inside headers
[19:28:57] <wycats> can I use HTML?
[19:30:10] <coderanger_> [[html(<h1>Blaaaaah</h1>)]]
[19:30:12] <matt_good> wycats: http://projects.edgewall.com/trac/wiki/WikiHtml
[19:30:17] <wycats> yeah
[19:30:19] <wycats> I see
[19:30:37] <wycats> Does [[html(...)]] work natively
[19:30:40] <wycats> or is it a plugin?
[19:31:03] <wycats> anyhow... can I use a macro inside them?
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[19:36:41] <wladston> i can't put two SNV repositories to work on a single instance of trac, can i ?
[19:45:59] <matt_good> not in a single project
[19:46:32] <matt_good> you can have 2 projects on a single Trac server though
[19:46:33] <wladston> yeah - thanks for confirming
[19:47:01] <wladston> we're getting hosted on opensvn, anyways ...
[19:47:18] <wladston> coudn't install trac on the main server :/
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[19:58:58] <wladston> now I'm starting to realise that "tickets" and "todo-list" are the SAME thing with different formats ... :)
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[20:11:37] <wladston> oh - and can i share users between different projects ?
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[20:48:54] <wycats> In a macro, is there a simple way to get the contents of the current page, or do I need to do an SQL search?
[21:01:47] <coderanger_> wycats: You will need to make a plugin to do that
[21:01:56] <coderanger_> at least to do it properly
[21:02:17] <coderanger_> You need access to the request
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[21:06:13] <matt_good> wladston: I don't know what opensvn offers
[21:06:27] <matt_good> typically you can use the same authentication for all your project though
[21:06:42] <matt_good> either using a single .htpasswd file, or other shared method
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[22:35:04] <ubulfluff> hi
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[22:57:35] <wycats> Can I get inline syntax highlighting for JS via silvercity?
[22:57:39] <wycats> or is it just for .js files?
[23:00:17] <matt_good> wycats: you can put the mimetype for any code block and it will try to highlight it http://projects.edgewall.com/trac/wiki/WikiProcessors#CodeHighlightingSupport
[23:01:10] <matt_good> JS would be text/x-javascript
[23:02:10] <matt_good> er, the silvercity and enscript modules differ on that :(
[23:02:38] <matt_good> application/x-javascript in silvercity, text/ in enscript
[23:02:39] <wycats> oy
[23:03:06] <wycats> so you do #!text/x-javascript
[23:04:17] <matt_good> yeah
[23:04:59] <wycats> sweet
[23:05:00] <matt_good> well, application/ for SilverCity ATM
[23:05:00] <wycats> thx
[23:05:59] <wycats> yeah
[23:06:08] <wycats> can I just patch silvercity to make it use text/?
[23:06:47] <matt_good> it's not silvercity itself, it's the Trac module for SilverCity
[23:06:59] <matt_good> I'm gonna patch it in the trunk ... one sec
[23:08:30] <ubulfluff> hi, can I reach form variables from a simple wiki-macro?
[23:08:48] <wycats> :)
[23:09:00] <wycats> I'm not using svn, so it won't do me any good ;)
[23:10:51] <matt_good> wycats: well, you can apply the change to your version if you want
[23:10:57] <wycats> :)
[23:11:00] <wycats> yu[
[23:11:02] <wycats> yup
[23:11:20] <matt_good> ubulfluff: yes hdf.getValue("args.formfieldname", "defaultvalue")
[23:13:50] <ubulfluff> tnx, I'll try
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[23:41:46] <jml> talk about rotten timing