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<cmlenz> |
pacopablo: I am now |
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<asmodai> |
cmlenz: he went to bed |
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<asmodai> |
PHP is like crack. :) |
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<cmlenz> |
ah well |
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<alect> |
except there are no highs, only lows |
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<asmodai> |
alect: :) |
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<asmodai> |
alect: How ya doin'? |
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<alect> |
good! |
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<alect> |
you? |
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<asmodai> |
mmm, depending on the subject: very fscked to very god. |
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<asmodai> |
good |
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<alect> |
~. |
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<asmodai> |
alect: heh |
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<asmodai> |
alect: ssh ? ;) |
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<[algo]> |
can I make report families ? |
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<[algo]> |
maybe reports on different pages ? |
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<[algo]> |
I have about 30 different reports , could be nice to have hierarchy of them, how can I do it ? |
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<tuxipuxi> |
will it be possible to change the timezone in trac 0.10? |
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<[algo]> |
any ideas on splitting reports ? (did I miss anything ? ) |
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<wkornew> |
how do I set the username after authentication? what does req.remote_user mean and why is it used by some plugins? do I have to use the outcookie's 'trac_auth' key or is it sufficient to set req.authname to "anonymous"? |
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<wkornew> |
instead of the cookie I could as well store everything in the session, right? |
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<cmlenz__> |
you are implementing the IAuthenticator interface |
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<wkornew> |
yes |
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<wkornew> |
hi cmlenz_ |
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<cmlenz__> |
in that case you just return the username from authenticate() and don't *set* anything |
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<wkornew> |
will req.authname be set by Trac, automatically? |
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<cmlenz> |
yes |
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<cmlenz> |
that's the idea, at least |
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<wkornew> |
okay...I've seen a few plugins set it manually |
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<wkornew> |
cmlenz: is the req.session object in authenticate() always None? |
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<cmlenz> |
hmm, yeah |
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<cmlenz> |
because the session may depend on the authname |
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<cmlenz> |
chicken and egg problem I guess |
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<wkornew> |
okay... :( |
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<wkornew> |
how can I safely store data about the user on the server-side? |
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<wkornew> |
is incookie not stored on the client? |
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<wkornew> |
I don't want to use a database for this... |
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<cmlenz> |
you can always just use a file |
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<wkornew> |
what is the auth_cookie table? is it created by Trac? |
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<wkornew> |
cmlenz: files are ugly :) |
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<wkornew> |
hmm, it looks like I could use the auth_cookie table... |
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<jerome> |
good afternoon all |
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<jerome> |
after some mods on site_css.cs, site_footer.cs, etc it happends in gecko browsers that the css is not read or not used until I purge the browser cache and then it displays nicely |
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<jerome> |
the source seems ok though |
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<jerome> |
<style ...>@import url(...)</style> in any case |
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<coderanger_> |
That is a browser issue |
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<jerome> |
coderanger: ok, so I guess I just have to have it inline. |
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<wkornew> |
how can I find out what the base url of Trac is without it being specified in config.ini? I'd like to get this from the HTTP request |
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<coderanger_> |
req.href() |
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<coderanger_> |
or req.abs_href() depending on what you need |
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<wkornew> |
ah, okay..., but the latter gives me "http://myserver..../login", for example, right? |
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<wkornew> |
I only need the server name |
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<wkornew> |
maybe including the env |
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<wkornew> |
at least, OpenID auth seems to work, now :)) |
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<wkornew> |
how can I use req.abs_href() without regex or other hacky stuff? |
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<wkornew> |
I only need http://myserver.com/ without the /someenv/... |
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<wkornew> |
ah, sorry... |
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<wkornew> |
abs_href already does this :) |
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<coderanger_> |
req.abs_href() will give you the absolute URL to the base of the Trac install |
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<wkornew> |
with env? |
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<wkornew> |
it looks like it once gave it without env and once with env... |
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<wkornew> |
coderanger_: is there some simple module or function that returns only the server portion of an URL? |
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<wkornew> |
(including protocol) |
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<coderanger_> |
wkornew: Why would you ever want that? |
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<coderanger_> |
It raise a whole host of problems with multiple installs on one server |
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<wkornew> |
I need this to specify the auth consumer URL for the OpenID server |
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<coderanger_> |
okay, that should be req.abs_href() |
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<wkornew> |
but that returns http://server.com/trac-env instead of just http://server.com |
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<wkornew> |
I'm still a Python newbie, so I don't know what to use to get only the server URL |
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<wkornew> |
there is an URL parser, but it's a lot more complicated to use... |
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<wkornew> |
also the urlparse module doesn't list the xri:// scheme as being supported |
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<wkornew> |
that's important for OpenID, though |
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<wkornew> |
hmm, I might do a little hack and say req.abs_href()[:-len(req.href()] |
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<coderanger_> |
well urlparse is better than that |
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<coderanger_> |
but this seems like a flaw in OpenID to me |
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<wkornew> |
coderanger_: I'm now using the hack :) |
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<wkornew> |
it's not a flaw in OpenID. I could as well specify the full URL, but I'd prefer to have the base url instead, so you can allow for all trac envs to be trusted (or the whole server) |
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<coderanger_> |
You should really use urlparse ... |
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<coderanger_> |
If it should be configurable, make it configurable |
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<wkornew> |
at some later point. it needs a better store mechanism, anyway. it's currently stateless |
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<coderanger_> |
configuration has nothing to do with state |
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<coderanger_> |
Trust settings should always be user determinable |
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<coderanger_> |
Or should default to being as conservative as possible at the very least |
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<wkornew> |
they are rather conservative. why would you want to have different identification domains for every env? isn't it sufficient to have all envs? |
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<coderanger_> |
Because it is not uncommon to have multiple unrelated envs on the same server |
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<coderanger_> |
Having credentials in one Trac should never grant them in another unless you have specifically set it up that way |
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<wkornew> |
coderanger_: oh, you misunderstood |
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<wkornew> |
this does not give you access to the other trac env |
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<wkornew> |
it's about asking the user whether he trusts a certain server |
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<wkornew> |
and it makes not much sense to only trust a certain env, but not the rest of the server |
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<coderanger_> |
If the other envs aren't mine, I can see that happening |
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<wkornew> |
but who cares? you don't have to login into the other envs |
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<coderanger_> |
My point is that anything authn or authz related should always err on the side of caution |
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<wkornew> |
it will get very messy if you "Trusted Sites" list is overloaded with individual envs |
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<wkornew> |
it's really good enough that way |
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<coderanger_> |
good enough isn't :P |
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<wkornew> |
heh... :) |
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<wkornew> |
well, why should someone want to trust every env individually? |
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<coderanger_> |
In anything security related, you should be asking to opposite question |
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<coderanger_> |
Always trust as little as possible |
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<wkornew> |
but do never annoy the user with too many trust questions. when it's obvious that he trusts something then don't ask for every little detail. hey, that's why Vista's security pop-ups have been removed. there were too many of them |
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<wkornew> |
okay, get it while it's hot! http://www.trac-hacks.org/wiki/OpenidPlugin |
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<wkornew> |
and bye |
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<algo_away> |
How can I make personal reports ? |
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<coderanger_> |
You cannot |
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<aspyrine> |
hi, someone know where to find setuptools 0.6 as .deb ? |
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<algo_away> |
can I make personal page with reports ? |
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<algo_away> |
well, I just want to let a person see HIS reports that interest HIM |
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<algo_away> |
e.g I'm doing Sales things, another person does HardWare |
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<algo_away> |
I don't want to see hardware tickets really |
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<algo_away> |
maybe there is some way to organize fight that ? |
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<coderanger_> |
Make a bunch of wiki pages using the Query macro |
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<algo_away> |
that's it |
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<algo_away> |
personal reports |
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<algo_away> |
Query macro, thanks |
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<algo_away> |
are there any plugins or helpers for dependancies |
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<algo_away> |
one ticket depends(linked) on others |
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<pacopablo> |
nope |
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<aspyrine> |
hi, I don't know why, I got a 500 error after putting a egg file into my plugin directory |
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<pacopablo> |
aspyrine: the egg file didn't work :) |
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<pacopablo> |
aspyrine: what does the log say? |
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<pacopablo> |
most likely your apache log |
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<pacopablo> |
and then also turn on trac logging |
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<pacopablo> |
@faq logging |
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<evil_twin> |
pacopablo: "logging" is http://projects.edgewall.com/trac/wiki/TracLogging <-- Enable debug logging to file, ensure your environments log/ directory is writeable by your web server user, check for errors. |
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<aspyrine> |
apache log, nothing |
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<pacopablo> |
cmlenz___: awake? |
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<aspyrine> |
oh, allright, I need web_uid |
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<aspyrine> |
webadmin I mean |
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<coderanger_> |
What are you trying to install? |
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<pacopablo> |
cmlenz___: what's the direction of future templating systems? Kid? or did you have some other concoction you were planning? |
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<aspyrine> |
discussion plugin |
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<pacopablo> |
does that one work? |
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<aspyrine> |
Is there a version of webadmin for 0.10 ? |
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<pacopablo> |
yes |
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<pacopablo> |
just pull trunk |
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<aspyrine> |
thanks :) |
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<cmlenz> |
pacopablo: yep |
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<algo_away> |
http://projects.edgewall.com/trac/wiki/TracCrossReferences |
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<algo_away> |
is it implemented ? |
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<coderanger_> |
algo_away: No |
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<coderanger_> |
algo_away: But feel free ;-) |
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<pacopablo> |
cmlenz: yep, you're awake? or yep you've got another concoction planned? |
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<algo_away> |
http://projects.edgewall.com/trac/ticket/31 |
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<cmlenz> |
pacopablo: I'm awake... that's the only question I heard here... have been some hiccups with the local network here |
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<algo_away> |
wow |
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<algo_away> |
its ticket 31 |
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<pacopablo> |
cmlenz: what's the direction of future templating systems? Kid? or did you have some other concoction you were planning? |
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<cmlenz> |
yeah, I am working on something |
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<cmlenz> |
but it's very similar to kid |
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<pacopablo> |
how function is it right now? |
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<pacopablo> |
er, functional |
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<aspyrine> |
hmm, I don't have any conf/VERSION file, what do I need to put into ? |
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<cmlenz> |
not sure... a lot works, but quite a bit doesn't yet... I'm starting to try it on trac |
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<aspyrine> |
0.10dev is okay ? |
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<pacopablo> |
aspyrine: works for me |
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<aspyrine> |
thanks :) |
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<aspyrine> |
with webadmin, I should have a tab with "web admin" or something like that I guess |
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<pacopablo> |
"Admin" |
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<pacopablo> |
but you need TRAC_ADMIN perms |
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<pacopablo> |
cmlenz: where can I grab it? |
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<aspyrine> |
I got this perms |
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<pacopablo> |
pastebin! |
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<pacopablo> |
@faq pastebin |
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<evil_twin> |
pacopablo: "pastebin" is http://trac.pastebin.com |
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<cmlenz> |
pacopablo: you can't yet... expect an announcement on trac-dev Real Soon Now (tm) |
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<pacopablo> |
hehe :) |
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<pacopablo> |
k |
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<aspyrine> |
oh, I got it, nice :) |
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<aspyrine> |
I got a lot of 404 pages, is it normal ? |
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<pacopablo> |
have you restarted apache? |
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<aspyrine> |
nope, I was about :) |
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<algo_away> |
How can I put trac report to wiki page ? |
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<algo_away> |
I see TracQuery module, but that seems to be something special |
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<coderanger_> |
The Query macro |
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<aspyrine> |
that's f*** nice !!!!!! :) |
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<algo_away> |
coderanger: I want custom report with my custom fields |
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<pacopablo> |
aspyrine: if you use mod_python or fastcgi, then you need to restat apache after installing a new plugin, or else you'll get 404s |
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<algo_away> |
aspyrine: you may also want to check logs... |
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<coderanger_> |
algo_away: You cannot |
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<aspyrine> |
yes, I'm sorry buging you with stupid things like that |
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<pacopablo> |
algo_away: you could just create a wiki page with links to the reoprts you want |
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<algo_away> |
query is more powerful than report module ? |
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<pacopablo> |
depends |
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<algo_away> |
it seems so :) |
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<pacopablo> |
query is a nicer interface |
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<algo_away> |
if I don't need complex joins |
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<pacopablo> |
but you can actually do more complex reports with the report module |
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<algo_away> |
query uses my custom fields |
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<algo_away> |
it seems more powerful really |
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<algo_away> |
pacopablo: which advantages report has ? |
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<pacopablo> |
you can write any report you want |
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<pacopablo> |
as you have full access to the raw SQL |
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<pacopablo> |
which means you're not limited to what the query interface gives you |
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<algo_away> |
yes |
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<algo_away> |
hm |
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<algo_away> |
I cant sort results by changedtime |
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<algo_away> |
with query |
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<algo_away> |
right ? |
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<aspyrine> |
alect: are you here ? |
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<algo_away> |
can I have blog in trac ? |
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<coderanger_> |
algo_away: TracBlog :) |
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<algo_away> |
;) |
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<alect> |
hi |
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<algo_away> |
is it prod. ready ? |
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<pacopablo> |
algo_away: depends what you need from it :) |
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<pacopablo> |
if you just need a simple blog, then yes |
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<pacopablo> |
alect uses it on trac-hacks.org |
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<alect> |
it is good |
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<pacopablo> |
just created a section of TracBlogPlugin where people can post links to their trac blogs |
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<alect> |
good idea |
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<aspyrine> |
alect: do you know what to do to make discussion plugin work with 0.10 ? |
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<nightstalker> |
hi |
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<pacopablo> |
hello |
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<nightstalker> |
is it possible to link to the timeline from the wiki without giving the exact url? |
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<nightstalker> |
like you would link to a ticket with ticket:1 |
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<pacopablo> |
not sure |
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<pacopablo> |
from the TracLinks documentation, it doesn't appear to be possible |
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<nightstalker> |
yeah, ive read that |
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<pacopablo> |
though you should be able to simply use a relative url: /timeline |
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<nightstalker> |
oh, that is possible? |
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<pacopablo> |
shoudl be :) |
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<nightstalker> |
hm, no :) |
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<nightstalker> |
http://projects.edgewall.com/trac/wiki/TracLinks#Server-relativelinks looks good |
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<pacopablo> |
just tested on trunk, and it works |
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<nightstalker> |
oh, you are right |
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<pacopablo> |
you do have to provide your "env" if you haven't configured trac to be on the root |
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<nightstalker> |
i tried [url: /timeline timeline] but that wasnt what you meant ;) |
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<pacopablo> |
nope |
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<nightstalker> |
ok thanks |
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<bobbens> |
can you delete tickets? |
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<pacopablo> |
bobbens: depends |
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<pacopablo> |
either use trunk |
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<pacopablo> |
or grab the ticket delete plugin on trac-hacks |
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<bobbens> |
ok so it isnt set by default, ill look at these trac-hacks |
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<bobbens> |
tahnks |
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<coderanger_> |
Even on trunk TicketDelete is still nicer ;-) |
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<pacopablo> |
true |
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<bobbens> |
trunk you mean latest svn right? |
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<pacopablo> |
yes |
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<bobbens> |
im using the debian package basically because im just trying it out |
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<pacopablo> |
bobbens: make sure you get 0.9.5 |
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<pacopablo> |
which I believe is in unstable |
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<pacopablo> |
cus the stable package is 0.8.4 which is woefully behind |
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<bobbens> |
0,9,5-2 :) |
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<pacopablo> |
good |
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<bobbens> |
was trying out differnt content managers |
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<bobbens> |
trac seems to be the easiest and lightest |
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<bobbens> |
does the latest svn have _alot_ of advantages over 0.9.5? |
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<pacopablo> |
depends on what you want |
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<bobbens> |
mainly want a good way to manage it from web (for some of the members using it), possibly adding stuff to svn via web (although its a pretty crazy idea) and ability to clean up tickets and such |
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<pacopablo> |
it's got ticket comment numbering, it's got a few more wiki handlers, like download:, the API is a bit nicer |
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<pacopablo> |
well, you won't be able to add stuff to svn via the web |
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<pacopablo> |
the trac svn interface is still read-only |
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<bobbens> |
still that is just a crazy idea :) |
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<fizzgig> |
pacopablo: hmmm, good point... *remembers to check 0.10 with his own plugins* |
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<bobbens> |
i prefer svn by cli |
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<bobbens> |
but somepeople cant handle cli |
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<pacopablo> |
same here |
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<bobbens> |
i wouldnt even use trac, just cli :) |
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<coderanger_> |
Its been discussed, but for now its not worth the effort it would take |
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<pacopablo> |
oh, the svn browser is nice |
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<bobbens> |
i just grep, read diffs and logs and such |
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<pacopablo> |
administration is still done via the webadmin plugin |
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<pacopablo> |
and it should be the same for 0.9 and 0.10 |
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<pacopablo> |
0.10 uses unicode internally |
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<bobbens> |
pacopablo: so would you advise me to run svn or just add a few patches? |
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<pacopablo> |
run svn |
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<bobbens> |
ok :) |
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<bobbens> |
whats the svn server, havin a bit of trouble finding it :) |
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<fizzgig> |
http://projects.edgewall.com/trac/wiki/TracDownload ... right at the bottom |
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<pacopablo> |
@faq download |
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<evil_twin> |
pacopablo: Error: No factoid matches that key. |
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<bobbens> |
nm :) |
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<pacopablo> |
@learn download as http://projects.edgewall.com/trac/wiki/TracDownload |
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<evil_twin> |
pacopablo: The operation succeeded. |
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<bobbens> |
great running svn now, but how do you delete the tickets? :) |
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<pacopablo> |
trac-admin /path/to/env ticket delete # |
