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July 08, 2006

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[00:04:31] <raidman|Work> pacopablo, I think I can't do that with digest authentication, right?
[00:05:10] <pacopablo> why couldn't you?
[00:05:24] <pacopablo> I'm just talking about creating an "all" user
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[00:05:49] <pacopablo> what exactly do you need/want it for?
[00:07:18] <raidman|Work> I want assign a ticket to more than one user
[00:07:34] <pacopablo> you can't really
[00:07:43] <pacopablo> so you can create a separate user
[00:07:56] <raidman|Work> yes
[00:08:02] <pacopablo> and then a) have that user's email address be an alias for multiple users
[00:08:16] <raidman|Work> yes
[00:08:28] <pacopablo> and b) create custom queries that include the special user when searching for tickets
[00:08:52] <pacopablo> something like: WHERE owner = 'bob' and owner = 'all'
[00:09:21] <raidman|Work> pacopablo, oh yes....thanks alot
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[00:28:48] <pacopablo> night all
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[00:30:32] <siebo> I had my trac instance pointed at my repositor, and then pointed that same instance at a new repo
[00:30:48] <siebo> but now I get 'No such revision 8'
[00:31:03] <siebo> which makes sense, as it has cached info for my old repo
[00:31:25] <siebo> but how do I get into trac's trac.db to clean it out?
[00:34:54] <siebo> okay, figured out how to open it in sqlite at least
[00:43:25] <ranq> siebo: trac-admin resync or something
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[00:43:50] <siebo> ranq: ah, thx good to know
[00:44:20] <siebo> I just went in and did 'delete from revision' in sqlite which seems to have sorted it
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[01:42:04] <_nadim> morning, I forgot my password to get in a trac site and I can't seem to find a "send me my password" anywhere
[01:42:18] <_nadim> isn't that implemented in trac?
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[01:43:41] <_nadim> if not, how to change the password from a CLI?
[01:43:56] <ranq> afaik it is not stored in cleartext
[01:44:13] <ranq> it depends on your authentication method
[01:44:21] <_nadim> I think it is here /var/lib/trac/pbs/trac.passwd
[01:44:38] <ranq> htpasswd ?
[01:44:39] <_nadim> ranq: isn't there an admin tool to change the passwords?
[01:45:03] <_nadim> I mean on the box itself no through the web interface
[01:45:20] <ranq> ah, standalone. dont know about that then.
[01:45:43] <_nadim> I'll take through the web interface if it exists
[01:46:02] <_nadim> we have amaintainer for trac be he's somewhere drinking beer
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[02:03:26] <skugg> it seems that trac's svn browser is not dealing well with repo reorgs... i *used* to have a {trunk,branches,tags}/{foo,bar} structure, but have changed it to {foo,bar}/{trunk,branches,tags} - pointing trac at foo or bar makes it deeply unhappy.
[02:03:30] <skugg> :(
[02:08:37] <_nadim> come on guys, someone must have forgotten his password once and remember how to get things on trac again.
[02:09:25] <misc> skugg: did you resync ?
[02:10:55] <skugg> misc: yes.
[02:10:57] <skugg> many times.
[02:11:39] <skugg> misc: you can see for yourself here: http://ggtl.org/ggtl/browser
[02:12:00] <raidman|Work> I want to know more about severity and priority but I can't find any usefull docs
[02:12:35] <_nadim> AuthType is Basic if it helps
[02:16:17] <_nadim> ranq: you were right htpasswd fixed the problem. thanks
[02:20:02] <raidman|Work> really I dont get the different between severity and priority
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[02:56:46] <ranq> raidman|Work: well, priority tells how important the ticket is compared to other ticks, it guides how to allocate resources to handle it. severity tells how severe the problem is from technical point of view. thats my take, anyway
[02:58:16] <ranq> for example, i might have some little used feature that when used crashes the program, and i rank it severity=critical. however, it does not really matter if it works or not, from business point of view, so its priority=low
[02:58:58] <raidman|Work> ranq, thanks mate :)
[02:59:47] <ranq> you could also have reverse case: like wrong font on report. it is severity=trivial, but client *really* wants to use comic sans, so it is priority=high
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[03:01:27] <raidman|Work> thanks alot ranq :)
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[03:01:43] <ranq> yeah nps
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[03:24:57] <Kismet> Hi All! Which wiki engine is used by Trac? Does exist a "formal grammar" of that language?
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[04:09:08] <otaku42> i'm curious, did anyone in here try mod-security in order to block comment spam?
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[10:31:34] <MDCore> I'm a totally newbie to linux. I'm trying to setup trac on my dev machine. I've installed the package with adept... but what now? How do I get the thing running?
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[11:53:08] <dead_mousE> I already executed make swig-py and make install-swig-py, but cannot initialize trac: Failed to initialize environment. No module named svn. What can be wrong ?
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[13:22:43] <maxb> dead_mousE: That you have not read the instructions in subversion/bindings/swig/INSTALL about the Python path
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[13:34:18] <samble> hi yall, just got trac running in my home dir on obsd, but the libsvn stuff complains and then dies
[13:34:51] <samble> ~/usr/local/lib/python2.3/site-packages/libsvn$ python fs.py
[13:35:03] <samble> import _repos
[13:35:06] <samble> import _repos ImportError: Cannot load specified object
[13:35:11] <samble> annoying, sorry, supposed to be 3 lines
[13:35:29] <samble> anyhoo, it does that for all the .py files in the libsvn subdir
[13:35:55] <samble> *.py tries to import _*
[13:36:12] <samble> then dies
[13:36:12] <misc> you should simply add ~/usr/local/lib/python2.3/site-packages/ to your PYTHONPATH, no ?
[13:36:26] <samble> echo $PYTHONPATH
[13:36:26] <samble> /pref/samble/lib/python2.3/site-packages:/pref/samble/usr/local/lib/python2.3/site-packages
[13:36:40] <samble> the last / isnt needed
[13:36:46] <misc> mhhh
[13:37:20] <samble> can you usually just import a file like '_mylib.so' with 'import _mylib.so' ?
[13:37:56] <samble> make that 'import _mylib'
[13:38:21] <misc> if you do "import svn", does it work ?
[13:38:40] <samble> yes
[13:38:55] <misc> so where is the problem ?
[13:39:29] <samble> on the trac website
[13:39:32] <samble> that i have up
[13:39:38] <samble> hmm it's behind a firewall, 1sec
[13:40:06] <misc> using tracd ?
[13:41:17] <samble> yup
[13:41:37] <samble> it's an error importing SubversionRepository from svn.something
[13:41:43] <samble> pastebinning it
[13:41:44] <misc> on trunk ?
[13:42:37] <samble> http://pastebin.ca/82678
[13:42:48] <samble> got it from obsd ports actually
[13:43:09] <samble> :/
[13:43:31] <misc> no idea, sorry
[13:44:12] <samble> okeydoke, thanks anyway
[13:44:57] <maxb> samble: You should read the error message more carefully. It's NOT importing from svn.something
[13:46:28] <samble> oh right
[13:46:35] <samble> trac.blah.svn_fs
[13:46:43] <samble> which is that _fs thing i'm thinkin
[13:46:54] <matt_good> errors importing the Trac svn_fs module usually *are* due to svn not being installed
[13:47:05] <maxb> Um, *no* svn_fs != _fs
[13:47:20] <samble> or not being installed properly
[13:47:22] <samble> orly maxb
[13:47:28] <samble> i thought that since they look different
[13:47:30] <samble> and are used differently
[13:47:32] <samble> and are different
[13:47:35] <samble> that they were equal
[13:47:40] <samble> but damn i guess you learn a lot on irc
[13:48:01] <samble> matt_good: i installed everything in my home dir, and subversion was a bitch to do that with if i'm remembering right
[13:48:06] <samble> i'll go look at that again
[13:48:17] <samble> thanks
[13:48:23] <samble> or wait maxb
[13:48:26] <samble> that was a double negative
[13:48:31] <samble> so are you trying to say theyre equal?
[13:48:40] <maxb> No!
[13:48:42] <samble> revelation!
[13:49:15] <matt_good> samble: yeah, compiling SVN does seem to be rather painful at times
[13:49:42] <maxb> samble: "i thought that since they ... are different that they were equal" ??!?! Illogical, much?
[13:49:50] <samble> oh shit
[13:49:53] <samble> maxb is on to me
[13:50:20] <samble> matt_good: it tries to include dependencies with it, i think, like in the source distribution
[13:50:25] <samble> and it flubs up where to put em
[13:50:37] <danderson> what the heck are you talking about...
[13:50:50] <danderson> my brain keeps getting syntax errors parsing what you're sayinh
[13:50:51] <danderson> -h+g
[13:51:04] <maxb> samble: As far as I understand it, that error is hinting that you've got Trac itself installed somewhere not on your Python's path
[13:51:42] <samble> sucks, danderson
[13:51:50] <samble> you should work on comprehension and speed
[13:51:54] <samble> both important in text conversations
[13:52:07] <matt_good> maxb: no, it would appear that trac *is* on the path, since it's in the traceback, the issue seems to be the SVN bindings
[13:52:30] <danderson> looks like maxb feels like helping you out, so I guess this svn developer will go back to hacking virtual ethernet :)
[13:53:04] <samble> what's virtual about your ethernets danderson ?
[13:53:05] <maxb> matt_good: But then why isn't the traceback showing an import from svn.something?
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[13:53:26] <danderson> http://vde.sourceforge.net/
[13:54:03] <samble> man, i swear
[13:54:29] <samble> one day we're gonna be running ipv4 over udp inside ipv6 over tcp over ipv4 tunneld in ipv6
[13:54:45] <samble> and the saddest part is there will be a good reason for it
[13:55:18] <samble> matt_good: i followed the instructions here: http://projects.edgewall.com/trac/wiki/TracOnOpenBSD
[13:55:44] <samble> there was an error somewheres, but i had to install ~11 packages from source and i think i just moved on without worryin too much about it
[13:55:50] <maxb> samble: Try running an interactive python, and manually trying "import svn.core"
[13:55:55] <samble> maxb: k
[13:56:07] <samble> import _core
[13:56:07] <samble> ImportError: Cannot load specified object
[13:56:10] <samble> same thing with _fs
[13:56:17] <samble> when i import fs
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[13:57:33] <Esotericisms> I am trying to move my trac db and wiki to a new server, but I keep getting the error the file is encrypted .. can anyone help?
[13:58:07] <samble> http://pastebin.ca/82689
[13:58:16] <samble> is the result of import svn.core
[13:58:41] <Esotericisms> anyone?
[13:59:03] <maxb> samble: uhh..... "samble@brunner:~/usr/local/lib/python2.3/site-packages$ python2.4" <--- see a problem? :-)
[13:59:33] <samble> yeah
[13:59:37] <samble> same thing happened w/ 2.3
[13:59:43] <samble> so i fired up 2.4
[13:59:46] <samble> i'll do 2.3 tho
[14:00:08] <Esotericisms> I am trying to move my trac from one server to another, but pyton is returning that the db file must be encrypted on the new server, can anyone help?
[14:00:11] <maxb> Esotericisms: I'm not sure, but I'd look into sqlite and pysqlite versions
[14:00:24] <samble> http://pastebin.ca/82691
[14:00:39] <Esotericisms> maybe cause I am trying to go from 0.8.4 to 0.9.0 ?
[14:00:44] <maxb> samble: For sanity's sake, I'd suggest picking ONE python version and sticking with it exclusively
[14:00:52] <samble> maxb: that's the first time i tried 2.4
[14:00:59] <samble> out of desperation
[14:01:18] <samble> cuz sanity is rare and getting rarer
[14:02:19] <samble> i think maybe...because svn is installed locally, and httpd and all interpreters are installed globally
[14:02:23] <samble> it may have done some stuff wrong
[14:02:24] <samble> hm
[14:02:28] <maxb> Esotericisms: No, I'd expect a different error if it was the Trac version difference that was the problem. It is probably because of differing sqlite or pysqlite versions between the two servers.
[14:02:34] <samble> which actual program does it look like the problem is with?
[14:03:13] <maxb> samble: "ls ~/usr/local/lib/python2.3/site-packages/libsvn" ?
[14:03:54] <samble> samble@brunner:~/usr/local/lib/python2.3/site-packages$ ls ~/usr/local/lib/python2.3/site-packages/libsvn
[14:03:56] <samble> __init__.py _client.la _core.la _delta.la _fs.la _ra.la _repos.la _wc.la client.pyc delta.py fs.pyc repos.py wc.pyc
[14:03:59] <samble> __init__.pyc _client.so _core.so _delta.so _fs.so _ra.so _repos.so _wc.so core.py delta.pyc ra.py repos.pyc
[14:04:02] <samble> _client.a _core.a _delta.a _fs.a _ra.a _repos.a _wc.a client.py core.pyc fs.py ra.pyc wc.py
[14:04:11] <samble> does that come up with blank lines inbetween the text lines for yall?
[14:04:16] <samble> cuz that's way annoying
[14:04:31] <maxb> Well, the .so files are what I'd expect, but the presence of .a files is bizarre
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[14:04:37] <samble> why's that?
[14:05:04] <samble> what platform uses those?
[14:05:14] <maxb> Because they are utterly irrelevant for a loadable module. On any platform
[14:05:36] <samble> hm
[14:05:45] <samble> oh yeah
[14:05:53] <samble> it built static and shared libs in most cases
[14:06:18] <maxb> Try: PYTHONPATH=~/usr/local/lib/python2.3/site-packages/libsvn python -c "import _core"
[14:07:32] <samble> Traceback (most recent call last): File "<string>", line 1, in ?
[14:07:37] <samble> ImportError: Cannot load specified object
[14:08:10] <maxb> hmm... then I suspect the problem is that loading _core.so is failing because it can't find the libsvn_* libraries
[14:08:41] <samble> ah
[14:08:45] <samble> LD_LIBRARY_PATH?
[14:09:24] <maxb> On a Linux system I'd question what happened to the embedded ELF RPATH and maybe wonder about ld.so.conf and ldconfig, but I'm not sure about BSD
[14:09:47] <samble> fucking
[14:09:48] <samble> boom
[14:09:50] <samble> thanks
[14:09:51] <maxb> LD_LIBRARY_PATH is a hack, but it might get things working in the short term
[14:09:58] <samble> well
[14:10:01] <samble> i cant really ldconfig
[14:10:04] <samble> cuz this is all in my ~
[14:11:32] <maxb> On Linux, I'd expect libtool to have linked the libraries with an ELF RPATH embedded, making it all just work
[14:11:44] <samble> ah that thing
[14:11:48] <samble> i think i know what you mean
[14:11:49] <maxb> on OpenBSD, I'm a bit lost what the proper solution is
[14:11:52] <samble> and i dont think i like that thing
[14:11:57] <samble> because then you can't move em around
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[14:14:42] <Esotericisms> I have installed some wiki-macros but they aren't working
[14:15:00] <samble> thank you maxb
[14:15:08] <Esotericisms> can anyone help me figure out why?
[14:15:18] <maxb> Esotericisms: installed using which method?
[14:15:26] <maxb> samble: You're welcome :-)
[14:15:31] <samble> =D
[14:15:39] <samble> if you wanna get some obsd experience
[14:15:46] <samble> i reccomend an account on silenceisdefeat.org
[14:15:53] <samble> cool place, #sd
[14:16:00] <samble> hopefully trac will be system-side there
[14:16:01] <Esotericisms> Downloaded the .py file saved it to the wiki-macros dir
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[14:16:19] <maxb> Hmm, I've only ever installed wiki macros that are plugins
[14:16:38] <Esotericisms> how do you install those?
[14:17:04] <maxb> Same way you install any other plugin.
[14:20:59] <Esotericisms> hrm, still not working weird
[14:22:06] <maxb> Do the standard macros installed in the wiki-macros dir work?
[14:22:34] <Esotericisms> there are non in the wiki-macros dir
[14:22:41] <Esotericisms> none*
[14:22:53] <maxb> oh. In my 0.9.5 installation, there are 3 macros that were installed with trac itself
[14:23:08] <Esotericisms> yeah I am running 0.9.0 right now
[14:24:38] <maxb> I'd try upgrading. It's entirely possible that something in those 5 patch releases might be relevant to your problem
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[14:40:32] <nofx_br> hello ! ! hehe... I've setup trac on mod_python <Location /trac/login>, made the .htpasswd , and I still get this error: Trac detected an internal error: Authentication information not available. any idea?
[14:40:57] <nofx_br> on trac.ini , permission_store = DefaultPermissionStore
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[15:18:35] <syonyx> can anyone point me in the right direction on installing the ticketdeleteplugin? i used easy_install on the .egg file, but when i run trac-upgrade, i'm getting an error: "UserWarning: Unbuilt egg for ticketdeleteplugin [unknown version] (/usr/local/lib/python2.4/site-packages/ticketdeleteplugin.egg)"
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[15:30:38] <maxb> syonyx: odd... I'd guess that something's wrong with the egg, and I'd try building a new egg from the source.
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[15:35:23] <syonyx> maxb: ok, that got rid of the error... what goes in [components] for this?
[15:36:33] <maxb> name_of_the_module_inside_the_egg.* = enabled
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[16:25:51] <syonyx> oh and thanks, maxb-- working fine now
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[18:23:39] <coderanger_> evening y'all
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[20:32:15] <bnovc> is there a way i can make it so only logged in users can browse source?
[20:33:36] <coderanger_> @permissions
[20:33:36] <evil_twin> coderanger_: "permissions" is See http://projects.edgewall.com/trac/wiki/TracPermissions for information on built-in permissions
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[21:22:37] <alect> coderanger: you made the 100th commit, have a cookie
[21:24:31] <coderanger_> 1000th you mean?
[21:24:50] <alect> indeed
[21:25:18] <coderanger_> heh
[21:25:28] <coderanger_> it wasn't even anything interesting :P
[21:26:43] <alect> :(
[21:26:53] <alect> we'll shoot for the starts on the 2000th one :)
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[21:54:17] <matt_good> whew, 40 tickets closed ... I think I'm done for today
[21:57:53] <raidman> can I use trac for just a part of a SVN repository, for example for just a branch?
[21:58:23] <raidman> s/just a branch/just for a branch/
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