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July 10, 2006

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[00:04:24] <coderanger_> cmlenz: Markup looks very cool
[00:04:59] <cmlenz> I obviously agree :-P
[00:05:50] <cmlenz> it'll be quite interesting to see how well it works in Trac
[00:06:50] <coderanger_> There is enough basic similarity with CS that the inital port shouldn't be that bad
[00:07:50] <cmlenz> yeah, definitely
[00:08:12] <cmlenz> actually, we started that here http://markup.edgewall.org/browser/trunk/examples/trac
[00:08:51] <coderanger_> nifty
[00:08:53] <cmlenz> but there's a lot of potential for improving the code in general because you could then have the presentation logic *in* the templates
[00:09:33] <coderanger_> Indeed
[00:09:57] <coderanger_> Is markup pure python?
[00:10:39] <cmlenz> yeah
[00:11:33] <coderanger_> Now all we need is a pure-python DB module and it will be possible to do single-package installers for Trac :)
[00:12:15] <coderanger_> Though since sqlite will be standard when 2.5 finally gets released I guess that would work too
[00:12:44] <cmlenz> that only includes pysqlite though, not sqlite
[00:12:50] <cmlenz> i.e. only the bindings
[00:16:25] <coderanger_> wtf, they removed searching from PyPI
[00:29:11] <cmlenz> weird
[00:54:17] <alect> apache 2.2 .... ugh
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[01:10:27] <The_Tick> cmlenz: around?
[01:10:42] <cmlenz> yeah
[01:10:52] <The_Tick> you made the spam filter plugin right?
[01:11:44] <The_Tick> just wondering if setuptools is the same as http://peak.telecommunity.com/DevCenter/setuptools
[01:11:53] <cmlenz> yeah, it is
[01:11:58] <The_Tick> the readme contains nothing about it, but the setup.py requires it
[01:12:00] <cmlenz> see also TracPlugins
[01:12:10] <cmlenz> well, setuptools is required by any Trac plugin
[01:12:19] <The_Tick> ahh
[01:12:21] <The_Tick> missed that part
[01:12:39] <The_Tick> pretty easy setup?
[01:12:52] <cmlenz> setuptools you mean?
[01:13:07] <cmlenz> mostly yes
[01:14:52] <The_Tick> meant the spam plugin itself, but that bodes well too
[01:15:16] <The_Tick> I'll just read and bother you later :)
[01:15:20] <The_Tick> I've obviously missed things
[01:16:02] <cmlenz> heh, np
[01:16:06] <alect> @plugins
[01:16:06] <evil_twin> alect: "plugins" is http://projects.edgewall.com/trac/wiki/TracPlugins
[01:16:19] <The_Tick> already there
[01:16:21] * alect pats evil_twin
[01:16:36] <The_Tick> bah, wrong window, heh
[01:31:53] <The_Tick> cmlenz: one question, before I go enabling this
[01:32:00] <The_Tick> how do you configure the filtering once you enable it?
[01:32:27] <cmlenz> there's not much to configure right now
[01:32:38] <cmlenz> you can enable/disable the various filter strategies
[01:32:43] <cmlenz> and set the API key for akisment
[01:32:47] <cmlenz> all in trac.ini
[01:33:01] <cmlenz> there's no moderation etc, though
[01:34:22] <The_Tick> the regex one looks nifty
[01:34:37] <cmlenz> and yeah, and that... configured with a wiki page
[01:35:38] <The_Tick> hmm, alright, so just add that one line to trac.ini
[01:36:49] <The_Tick> like tracspamfilter.akismet = enabled
[01:36:57] <The_Tick> this is neat :D
[01:37:22] <cmlenz> tracspamfilter.akismet.* = enabled
[01:37:27] <cmlenz> don't forget that star ;-)
[01:37:43] <The_Tick> heh
[01:38:08] <The_Tick> hmm, how do you add the api key?
[01:41:45] <cmlenz> http://trac.edgewall.org/wiki/SpamFilter#Akismet
[01:42:01] <The_Tick> ahh, missed that
[01:42:08] <cmlenz> no, you're not nuts, I just added that ;-)
[01:42:15] <The_Tick> heh
[01:42:46] <The_Tick> might be better to link to wordpress.org rather than com?
[01:44:15] <cmlenz> but that's something different
[01:44:20] <cmlenz> you get the API key from wordpress.com
[01:44:28] <cmlenz> you need to create a blog with them
[01:44:56] <The_Tick> heh, never used wordpress before, so had to go to .org to go find out wtf an api key was ;)
[01:44:56] <cmlenz> such as this awesomely interesting one here: http://edgewall.wordpress.com/
[01:44:56] <cmlenz> ;-)
[01:47:12] <The_Tick> heh
[01:47:21] <The_Tick> you have to have a blog, and not just an account, in order to get an apikey
[01:52:07] <The_Tick> heh, is there any way to verify that the plugin is enabled?
[01:52:17] * The_Tick asks all sorts of newbish stupid questions today
[01:54:14] <otaku42> The_Tick: try to post some spam on your site for testing purposes :)
[01:54:48] <The_Tick> otaku42: thought of that
[01:54:58] <The_Tick> didn't think it'd be such a good idea :P
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[02:16:44] <cmlenz> The_Tick: check whether it's listed in "About Trac" -> "Plugins"
[02:18:25] * The_Tick deletes spam then checks
[02:19:26] <The_Tick> hrmph
[02:19:28] <The_Tick> not there
[02:19:30] <The_Tick> grrr
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[02:31:02] <The_Tick> cmlenz: alright, so it's not listed in plugins that I can tell
[02:31:21] <The_Tick> cmlenz: I added the components line, specifically for akismet
[02:31:30] <cmlenz> check the logs
[02:31:32] <cmlenz> @logging
[02:31:32] <evil_twin> cmlenz: "logging" is http://projects.edgewall.com/trac/wiki/TracLogging <-- Enable debug logging to file, ensure your environments log/ directory is writeable by your web server user, check for errors.
[02:31:45] <cmlenz> we need a plugins troubleshooting guide :-P
[02:31:52] <The_Tick> ya dude
[02:32:25] <The_Tick> that's what I was going to ask, if plugins log to a separate file (I know, kinda stupid) or just whatever
[02:35:01] <cmlenz> no just to trac.log
[02:35:12] <cmlenz> if you set the log level to DEBUG you'll get messages about plugins being loaded
[02:47:57] <cmlenz> there: http://trac.edgewall.org/wiki/TracPlugins#Troubleshooting
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[03:31:01] <simmerz> I'm having major difficulty getting trac working under sarge using subversion from backports, python2.3-subversion from backports too, but trac from either the edgewall site or from debian sarge repos
[03:33:35] <The_Tick> any errors?
[03:35:02] <simmerz> yes, sorry, using python2.3-subversion, i am missing the swig libs, and i can't remember now what happens as i removed it all when i use the backports version
[03:35:18] <simmerz> might it work better if i install trac from source?
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[03:42:13] <The_Tick> simmerz: I haven't dealt with deb in a while
[03:42:24] <The_Tick> but backporting doesn't sound fun
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[04:08:56] <simmerz> The_Tick: not when it wants to mess around with my install so drastically
[04:09:06] <simmerz> wish i'd installed ubuntu now
[04:09:17] <simmerz> blasted debian release cycle
[04:09:20] <The_Tick> heh
[04:09:28] <The_Tick> just use unstable
[04:09:31] <The_Tick> or whatever it is
[04:09:48] <simmerz> not on a machine that needs the stability of something a little less temperamental
[04:10:03] <simmerz> its a production svn server
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[04:17:47] <The_Tick> heh
[04:17:56] <The_Tick> good luck then
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[04:43:56] <aspyrine> hi, how can I test plugins without making egg files ?
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[04:58:37] <vorsprung> hi
[04:59:10] <vorsprung> if I add a [ticket-custom] section to trac.ini, should the new field immediately show up on the new ticket page?
[05:03:07] <vorsprung> ah, it did I was looking at the wrong thing :)
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[06:34:04] <aspyrine> I got a wiki issue
[06:34:17] <aspyrine> I wrote a long title (===) and only the begining appears
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[06:38:31] <aspyrine> is trac cutting titles ?
[06:44:21] <aspyrine> why does wiki_to_oneliner cut strings ?
[06:52:58] <vorsprung> how do I use sqlite client to look directly at the database?
[06:53:33] <vorsprung> when I try running sqlite.exe it says "Unable to open database "d:\MIS\tracdata\db\trac.db": file is encrypted or is not a database"
[06:54:48] <aspyrine> maybe a wrong version of sqlite client
[06:55:06] <vorsprung> aspyrine, ok I'll check that, thanks
[06:57:25] <aspyrine> ok, about titles, I upgraded my version, sorry for noise :)
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[22:09:02] <hdiogenes> hello, guys! does anyone know when alec is coming back?
[22:10:11] <hdiogenes> (alect)
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[22:13:27] <asmodai> Normally he's awake around now
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[22:29:33] <asmodai> 17
[22:32:07] <hdiogenes> 17??
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[22:49:19] <otaku42> moin
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