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<danp> |
here's the sqlite to postgres migrator i wrote and just used on the rails trac if anyone is interested: http://glueless.net/ruby/trac_migrate.rb |
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<raidman|Work> |
hi |
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<raidman|Work> |
smtp_password is plain text? |
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<raidman|Work> |
or I should encrypt it, I got an error for authoriztion so I need to know that |
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<raidman|Work> |
---- |
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<raidman|Work> |
any time I change trac.conf I should restart apache? |
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<raidman|Work> |
smtp_password is plain text or I should encrypt it, I got an error for authoriztion so I need to know that? |
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<Getty> |
trac-admin component list gives me: *** Unknown syntax: list |
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<Getty> |
ah! |
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<Getty> |
what does syncing with repository mean? (trac-admin resync) |
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<skugg> |
Getty: it means that trac interrogates the svn repository to cache revisions, afaik |
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<skugg> |
for its timeline/browser view |
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<Getty> |
ah.... |
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<Getty> |
should be done on commit then or something like that, he? :) |
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<Getty> |
after using trac-admin to change stuff, must do some "save" or something? |
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<Getty> |
aehm... i removed the Roadmap from the ini file and it just moved its position to the complete right |
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<mitsuhiko> |
Getty: you don't have to call trac-admin resync normally |
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<Getty> |
ah ok |
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<mitsuhiko> |
you can use it when restoring data from a dump etc |
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<Getty> |
ok |
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<mitsuhiko> |
and yes. trac rocks :) |
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<Getty> |
what about the roadmap ? |
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<mitsuhiko> |
the roadmap is indepentend from the svn |
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<mitsuhiko> |
you can manage it using trac-admin or the WebAdmin plugin afair |
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<Getty> |
no no i mean |
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<Getty> |
i deactivated it in the ini |
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<Getty> |
but its still there |
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<Getty> |
just on another position |
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<mitsuhiko> |
Getty: then you have just disabled the navigation item |
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<mitsuhiko> |
you have to unload the roadmap to: |
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<mitsuhiko> |
[plugins] |
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<mitsuhiko> |
trac.Roadmap.* = disabled |
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<mitsuhiko> |
or something like that |
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<mitsuhiko> |
check the about page for the full path |
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<Getty> |
ah ok |
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<Getty> |
dont get it :) |
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<Getty> |
the trac.ini should have more examples |
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<snkoos> |
i'm curious which tool you guys are using to distribute / launch your php projects (project build system) ? |
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<misc> |
i think you are on the wrong channel :) |
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<otaku42> |
just wanted to type something similar :) |
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<otaku42> |
snkoos: you are aware that trac is python-based, no? :) |
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<snkoos> |
i am, and it rocks for the stuff i am using it |
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<snkoos> |
but now when i finished a roadmap, or did an svn tag and want to put in on the live servers |
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<snkoos> |
i have bash scripts doing the svn checkout |
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<snkoos> |
i am looking for something better to replace that |
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<snkoos> |
as i waste alot of time making the bash scripts 'fool proof' |
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<Getty> |
deployment is a very tricky theme |
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<Getty> |
you should not combine that in the trac (just my thought on this) |
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<snkoos> |
i won't combine it with trac |
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<otaku42> |
snkoos: the problem most probably is that such distribution jobs are very specific, making it hard to come up with general frameworks or something like that |
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<snkoos> |
i am just asking your opinions as alot of people in here are in the 'project management' branch |
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<snkoos> |
otaku42 i agree, but i am really looking for something real basic |
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<snkoos> |
i've found phing, but it doesn't support remote paths, or remove svn |
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<Getty> |
i do the following |
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<Getty> |
i got a script that just gets out the svn, makes a public dev and a public view version, dev is connected to the dev database, view version is connected to the productive database |
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<Getty> |
then i got a second script that takes a third version that is prepared from the script before and moves it to the productive system and install it there |
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<Getty> |
you could then make this script callable via buttons |
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<Getty> |
so that any dev cann make a dev/view version |
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<Getty> |
but just big boss can drop to productive system |
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<snkoos> |
Getty, thanks for the inside view |
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<snkoos> |
and i like what you are doing there |
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<Getty> |
me too |
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<snkoos> |
but that means writing alooooot of bash scripts doesn't it ? |
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<Getty> |
deployment in 1 minute that rocks |
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<Getty> |
ah |
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<Getty> |
at all we talk about 5-10 lines per script |
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<Getty> |
its just copy tar untar stuff |
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<Getty> |
actually you could make it more nice ;) but it works so i dont care |
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<Getty> |
the most important part is |
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<snkoos> |
yeah well thats exactly my problem |
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<Getty> |
that you never mess around with checkout, you always export, so clean stuff |
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<snkoos> |
i have 10+ projects where i am using the 'working script' |
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<snkoos> |
and i always export indeed |
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<Getty> |
no problem on that |
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<snkoos> |
but if something didn't work, what then ? |
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<Getty> |
taking the time making a deployment script for a project is not a shame |
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<snkoos> |
like if a file is locked ? or if the permission to write wasn't there |
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<Getty> |
i will always do a deployment script right for the project i got, never would think about preparing frameworks/libs/scripts for that |
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<snkoos> |
yeah ok�i agree, but if there are scripts like phing around |
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<Getty> |
then i got backups |
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<snkoos> |
then there should be better ones available too |
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<Getty> |
i could make a recovery script |
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<Getty> |
that just reinstalls old version |
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<Getty> |
but cause i just do deployment |
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<Getty> |
i can do it by hand in bad cases |
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<Getty> |
(never happens... tons of backups for NOTHING) |
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<Getty> |
oh another interesting part is that the developers also have own versions always connected to dev database |
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<Getty> |
and another problem that you must solve by hand: database changes |
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<Getty> |
very very very very very very hard theme |
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<snkoos> |
well i have something for that |
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<Getty> |
there is nothing for that ;) |
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<Getty> |
reality bites alwys |
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<snkoos> |
i put paches in my repository, and i run them automatically if they are newer then the date of the last checkout |
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<Getty> |
that just would fit 33% of my tables |
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<Getty> |
the other 66% are different cases |
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<Getty> |
i got 3 cases |
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<Getty> |
the table is part of the system and is copied with content from dev to prod just in moment of deployment |
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<Getty> |
the table is part of the project and just changes are made to the table, nothing on data is changed |
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<Getty> |
the table is part of the project and the new field has to be build based on the data of the rest of the table |
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<Getty> |
gimme the system that covers that all and i praise you like a god |
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<snkoos> |
well infact |
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<snkoos> |
i am thinking to write a basic webscript that generates a bash or perl script |
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<Getty> |
baeh |
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<Getty> |
"you're out!" |
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<snkoos> |
haha :) |
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<snkoos> |
you want me todo it in python ? : |
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<Getty> |
no |
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<Getty> |
its database, so do it in one layer |
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<Getty> |
i dont care which layer, but one |
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<Getty> |
best php ;) (hey btw i'm python fan!) |
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<snkoos> |
well, but then you need an entire framework |
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<snkoos> |
to catch up all possible exceptions |
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<snkoos> |
the way i am thinking of now, just has a plain simple 'generate script' button |
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<snkoos> |
you download it, put it in the fileroot, and run it |
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<snkoos> |
so you need to generate a script for each project |
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<Getty> |
ah thats wuzzie |
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<snkoos> |
whats wuzzie ? |
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<Getty> |
we talk about big projects with 24/7 runtime and 150< tables |
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<Getty> |
aehm... look at the TV series "Titus" |
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<Getty> |
there you get the idea of "wuzzie" |
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<snkoos> |
i am talking about projects with 24/7 runtime and 150+ tables |
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<Getty> |
good then be clear that such scripts are more dirty to handle then real code of the project |
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<snkoos> |
and i am using a 15line bash script now to deploy it |
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<Getty> |
why go out one layer out of the project layer if we talk about project stuff? |
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<Getty> |
deploy is one thing, changing db another |
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<Getty> |
i will combine project code with deployment soon |
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<Getty> |
then i will have my system that makes such changes ;) |
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<Getty> |
cause i rule! joke ;) |
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<snkoos> |
what language are you writing in ? |
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<snkoos> |
the existing projects i mean |
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<Getty> |
php |
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<snkoos> |
same here |
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<snkoos> |
so you will be using php, to copy your source from a svn server to a another machine ? |
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<snkoos> |
to export i mean |
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<Getty> |
no that is a bash script, but that is the preparing layer, so file actions are before any php starts, but then the php must prepare his environment, which is what i want to implement |
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<Getty> |
(i hope noone hates us cause of talking that theme here :) <wink>) |
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<snkoos> |
yeah ok�but then you're still writing bash scripts :) |
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<snkoos> |
and you could still need my generator to quickly make your scripts ! |
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<Getty> |
one deployment script ok ;) but i would never generate this from the php |
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<Getty> |
ey do you wanna see it? |
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<snk00sj> |
of cuz |
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<snk00sj> |
privatemsg |
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<Getty> |
http://paste.debian.net/8916 i hate privmsg |
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<Getty> |
and i cant do it on freenode, cause i must register |
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<snk00sj> |
can u read mine ? |
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<Getty> |
yeah |
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<Getty> |
Restarting apache btw just cause of a bug in APC |
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<snk00sj> |
looks pretty decent |
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<Getty> |
yeah |
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<Getty> |
the most complex part is the state.php |
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<Getty> |
;) |
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<snk00sj> |
still using cvs huh |
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<Getty> |
in that one yes |
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<Getty> |
the others are svn |
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<Getty> |
but i dont like svn but i dont like cvs also ;) |
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<snk00sj> |
i like it |
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<Getty> |
i started with trac my first open source project now lets see how i like it when i work with good guys together ;) |
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<Getty> |
trac rulez! ;) |
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<snk00sj> |
yeah it rules |
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<snk00sj> |
although i miss some things, its getting close to perfect |
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<snk00sj> |
now we're talking, what IDE u using ? :) |
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<Getty> |
Zend, but hey now its getting a bit to far ;) |
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<Blackhex> |
please how to simulate in operaton in clearsilver? |
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<snk00sj> |
Getty i am using Zend too :) but i don't like it anymore |
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<snk00sj> |
used to be top of the bill, but this Zend Platform thinggie, really stinks |
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<danp> |
anyone using the postgres backend? |
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<pacopablo> |
morning all |
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<alect> |
hey paco |
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<pacopablo> |
hey |
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<alect> |
:) |
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<pacopablo> |
I need to get a better ups |
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<alect> |
for evil_twin? :) |
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<pacopablo> |
yeah |
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<pacopablo> |
it's my server and I irc from it |
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<alect> |
aah |
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<pacopablo> |
lately the UPS has been cutting power |
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<pacopablo> |
for no real apparent reason |
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<pacopablo> |
so the server reboots |
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<pacopablo> |
and that sucks |
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<alect> |
i reckon :( |
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<De_Mon> |
trac doesn't seem to like me using sqlites strftime fuction |
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<De_Mon> |
strftime('%s','now') says it can't format the string |
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<cmlenz> |
try using %%s |
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<De_Mon> |
much better, thanks |
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<Luke> |
how do I make attached images display on my wiki? also are you supposed to use the "attach file" function for images? |
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<pacopablo> |
[[Image(name_of_attached_file.jpg)]] |
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<Luke> |
oh i just figured it out - i dont have mod_python |
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<pacopablo> |
that shouldn't matter |
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<pacopablo> |
you can display images using tracd, or fastcgi or plain cgi too |
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<pacopablo> |
just as long as trac is actually running |
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<Luke> |
it is running |
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<Luke> |
and i'm using that form |
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<Luke> |
oh wait i had wiki: in front of the filename |
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<Luke> |
thanks |
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<pacopablo> |
np |
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<Luke> |
so if I have a python based installation of trac I dont need cgi? |
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<pacopablo> |
define "python based installation" |
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<pacopablo> |
trac is written in python |
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<Luke> |
using mod_python |
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<pacopablo> |
right, mod_python is an alternative to cgi |
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<pacopablo> |
same as fastcgi is an alternative to cgi |
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<pacopablo> |
and tracd is an alternative to apache + {cgi/mod_python/fastcgi} |
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<pacopablo> |
though tracd is mostly recommended for testing and not production |
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<Luke> |
awesome |
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<Luke> |
thanks |
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<De_Mon> |
whats the point in hiding columns from in a custom report? |
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<De_Mon> |
I mean, why bother selecting them at all |
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<johnjosephbachir> |
is there any reason i should avoid mysqlite 2.x? |
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<johnjosephbachir> |
err, pysqlite i mean |
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<De_Mon> |
description and reporter are both hidden, and I don't understand why they are in the report at all |
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<De_Mon> |
this is in 0.9.5 |
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<pacopablo> |
De_Mon: because if you sort on a column, you have to select it |
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<pacopablo> |
so perhaps one might want to sort on acolumn, but not display it |
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<pacopablo> |
though I can't comment about the specific example |
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<De_Mon> |
reading the wiki, its so it shows up in other formats (comma delimited) |
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<pacopablo> |
ahh, that makes sense too. |
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<Luke> |
pacopablo: if i'm doing a python trac, do I still need documentroot? |
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<pacopablo> |
@faq mod_python |
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<evil_twin> |
pacopablo: "mod_python" is http://projects.edgewall.com/trac/wiki/TracModPython |
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<pacopablo> |
follow those instructions |
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<Luke> |
i am already |
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<pacopablo> |
you'll still probably need a documentroot for your vhost, or whatever, though there need not be anything in it |
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<Luke> |
it says nothing about documentroot |
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<Luke> |
i'm using this guide too: http://trac.edgewall.org/wiki/TracOnUbuntu because Ubuntu/Debian do things a little different |
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<Luke> |
but the python description is horrible |
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<pacopablo> |
if you're using the Vhost, like in the Ubuntu install doc, then set the DocumentRoot value, but it need not point to /usr/share/trac/cgi-bin/ |
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<Luke> |
what should it point to? |
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<pacopablo> |
You could try it without the document root, but I think that apache complains if a vhost doesn't have one |
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<pacopablo> |
/var/www/htdocs or something |
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<Luke> |
it doesnt complain it just doesnt work |
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<pacopablo> |
it doesn't really matter |
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<Luke> |
i think the problem might be somewhere else if docroot doesnt matter |
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<pacopablo> |
well, I believe that docroot matter to apache, just not to trac |
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<Luke> |
well i restart apache without error |
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<Luke> |
pacopablo: http://monoport.com/508 |
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<Luke> |
http://ccbanshee.openradix.org/ to see what its going (just indexing the root dir) |
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<Luke> |
curses this is not working |
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<pacopablo> |
drop the alias |
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<pacopablo> |
and what version of trac are you using? |
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<pacopablo> |
Luke: if you're using 0.9.x then you need to change the PythonHandler line to: PythonHandler trac.web.modpython_frontend |
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<Luke> |
pacopablo: the docs that came with my trac install were incorrect |
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<Luke> |
once I used the edgewall docs it worked |
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<pacopablo> |
cool |
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<Luke> |
but now my image doesnt work again =) |
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<pacopablo> |
hehe :) |
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<Luke> |
pacopablo: can you see http://ccbanshee.openradix.org/ ? |
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<pacopablo> |
it's still trying to load |
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<pacopablo> |
timed out |
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<Luke> |
pacopablo: hmm ok thanks |
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<ajt> |
coderanger: Where you the one working on the ability to make it so when a user registers they are not automatically granted access? |
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<ajt> |
s/where/were |
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<alect> |
you mean...as opposed to using the "authenticated" virtual user? |
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<ajt> |
alect: Well if you use the account plugin when someone registers they're given immediate access to trac |
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<ajt> |
I want to be able to enable the accounts manually |
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<De_Mon> |
eh? I created a report that uses a subquery. it executes fine if I connect to the SQLite db directly, but trac says it can't find a column. |
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<De_Mon> |
http://pastebin.ca/86262 |
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<De_Mon> |
line 12 is where error is comming from |
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<alect> |
ah, ok |
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<kismet> |
Hi All! I haven't see any ticket for ehancing the Ticket System so that subticket can be created, are you planning such feature? That's a very nice feature and I found it usefull when I used it with JIRA |
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<TML> |
Is there a way in trac to see "pages which link to this page"? |
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<TML> |
kismet: I'm curious. What purpose does a "sub-ticket" serve? |
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<pacopablo> |
kismet: it should be possible (if I understand what you want) with the workflow branch |
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<pacopablo> |
though one would have to write the plugin to provide said service |
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<kismet> |
TML actually is not supported but it's usufull to extend the concept of ticket to task, so for example if you have to do some big step you can create the big step as a ticket and the create as many smal step that are usufull complete the big task |
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<alect> |
tml: iirc there's a backlinks macro somewhere |
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<pacopablo> |
TML: there are a couple macros in the macro bazaar that do that |
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<TML> |
Thanks |
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<TML> |
kismet: So how is a sub-ticket different from creating one ticket for each smaller step, then one ticket that holds references to the other tickets for the "Big Task"? |
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<De_Mon> |
TML how it's displayed |
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<kismet> |
TML there is no big difference but you can improve the UI with things like progress bar... And also notification can be extended even to who is monitoring only the parent ticket |
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<De_Mon> |
I'm using milestones for that at the moment, and I don't like it |
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<kismet> |
De_Mon you don't like using milestone as Parent-Children task or you don't like the Parent-Children feature? |
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<De_Mon> |
I don't like using milestones as a parent-children task |
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<De_Mon> |
because milestones can't be the children of other milestones |
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<ajt> |
ahh |
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<ajt> |
I'd love to see ticket #111 depends on ticket #122, #123, #124 feature as well |
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<De_Mon> |
you can do _that_ just by including the ticket numbers, I want the progress bar and such :) |
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<De_Mon> |
now if milestones actually took into account tickets that are related to tickets in the milestone... |
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<wolfilein> |
hi |
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<De_Mon> |
any ideas why SQLite likes this query, but track throws an error? http://pastebin.ca/86262 |
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<wolfilein> |
i have a Problem with Trac, and is there someone who will help me?? |
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<De_Mon> |
not until you state what the problem is |
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<De_Mon> |
you are in the right place though |
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<veleno> |
hello everyone. any one using the continuum-trac integration? |
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<Luke> |
When I go to my trac website - images wont show up on the WikiStart page but if i type http://url/wiki instead of just http://url/, the images show up. Any idea how to fix this? I'm running a virtual host with ubuntuy |
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<hacim> |
veleno: whats continuum? |
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<veleno> |
oh... maven.apache.org/continuum a continuous integration system (similar to CruiseControl i guess) |
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<Luke> |
anyone know about my problem ^^ |
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<Twiggy> |
Hey whats the best way to configure users and the login page? I'm off a straight install and all I get when I hit login is a blank page |
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<TML> |
Luke: If you try to load the image URL, what does it say? |
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<veleno> |
Twiggy, what I did is to use htpasswd, the same way i confired restricted access to svn |
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<Twiggy> |
veleno: sounds good thankya |
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<veleno> |
Twiggy, maybe what you mean is to set user permissions to different panels in trac. if so, go with "trac-admin path/to/trac/project " |
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<Twiggy> |
veleno: I meant login :oD was just curious as to how people were going about it, there's not really any mention in the wiki that I could find |
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<Luke> |
TML: what do you mean load the image URL? |
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<Luke> |
TML: i'm using a macro to display it |
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<TML> |
Luke: Use you browser to see what URL the image is getting served as when it doesn't display |
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<Luke> |
http://ccbanshee.openradix.org/attachment/wiki/WikiStart/ccBanshee.png |
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<Luke> |
which is correct |
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<veleno> |
once i check out the code of this plugin: http://www.trac-hacks.org/wiki/WikiGoodiesPlugin what should I do ? |
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<pacopablo> |
install it |
