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July 13, 2006

[00:01:09] <otaku42> alect: hmm. i think the plugin would need to make sure it's called as last in the row of nav_contributors, right?
[00:01:41] <alect> it can't remove them though, it doesn't have access to the original list
[00:08:31] <otaku42> alect: and i guess there is no chance to get access to it without modifying the trac core, right?
[00:08:48] <alect> right
[00:09:58] <otaku42> alect: doh! yet another plugin idea died just now :) i had the idea for a plugin that adds tooltip descriptions to the navigation items. but i guess that this would suffer from the same limitation?
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[00:52:19] <otaku42> moin cmlenz
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[00:53:02] <cmlenz> hi otaku42
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[01:53:43] <asmodai> cmlenz / alect: dudes!
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[02:14:37] <cmlenz> hey asmodai
[02:42:40] <asmodai> cmlenz: :)
[02:42:49] <asmodai> cmlenz: Saw you moved markup to edgewall.org :)
[02:42:54] <asmodai> Cool bananas.
[02:43:02] * asmodai turns off report for his trac instance
[02:43:25] <cmlenz> yeah
[02:43:36] <asmodai> mmm, the query page gives me two errors btw
[02:43:54] <asmodai> addEvent is not defined and searchHighlight is not defined.
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[02:45:55] <cmlenz> hmm, works here
[02:46:09] <cmlenz> probably the js file didn't get loaded
[02:46:21] <asmodai> I wonder why it did not get loaded though then
[02:46:56] <asmodai> cmlenz: Should I nuke the share/trac dir and reinstall, see if that clears?
[02:47:24] <cmlenz> oh, you're talking about your install?
[02:47:31] <cmlenz> I thought you meant on m.e.o
[02:47:39] <asmodai> Ahh, no sorry
[02:47:42] <asmodai> my install. :)
[02:47:48] <asmodai> I just updated according to the latest SVN.
[02:47:53] <asmodai> s/SVN/truk
[02:47:54] <asmodai> nk
[02:48:14] <cmlenz> well, check what URL trac is trying to load the js from, and check why that URL isn't working
[02:48:53] <asmodai> That's most likely query.js it wants to load?
[02:49:07] <cmlenz> trac.js has addEvent/searchHighlight
[02:49:53] <asmodai> Peculiar, the entire source for the page rendered by /query doesn't include trac.js.
[02:49:59] <asmodai> I do see query.js though.
[02:50:08] <cmlenz> oh
[02:50:12] <cmlenz> that may be a bug
[02:51:26] <cmlenz> hmm, it works here with trunk
[02:51:37] <cmlenz> wait...
[02:51:45] <cmlenz> definitely try nuking/reinstalling the shared templates
[02:51:52] <asmodai> Mmm, none of the files in templates includes trac.js. See it's added through trac/web/chrome.py
[02:52:06] <asmodai> ok
[02:52:08] <asmodai> moment
[02:52:36] <asmodai> Ah
[02:52:40] * asmodai might have an idea.
[02:53:38] <asmodai> Yeah
[02:54:12] <asmodai> cmlenz: I use easy_install for installing trac, but using that it will only do the bdist_egg target, which doesn't do anything for /usr/local/share/trac, although it does install the scripts.
[02:54:46] <asmodai> Heh, I'm surprised the installation still worked.
[02:56:02] <cmlenz> heh
[02:56:20] <cmlenz> yeah, we need to get rid of the share/trac stuff when we move to setuptools
[02:56:27] <cmlenz> still don't have a bright idea how to do that
[02:56:28] <asmodai> cmlenz: question though, http://trac.tendra.org/roadmap <-- milestones never sort numerically? Only on date assigned and then chronologically down?
[02:56:47] <cmlenz> by duedate, then by name
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[03:04:39] <asmodai> cmlenz: Mmm, I'll take a peek about the share issue for setuptools
[03:04:51] <cmlenz> cool
[03:05:00] <cmlenz> see sandbox/setuptools for the branch
[03:05:29] <asmodai> ok
[03:05:45] <asmodai> cmlenz: So, what about markup + trac now?
[03:06:47] <cmlenz> well, markup was basically written for trac
[03:06:57] <cmlenz> we've started a prototype here: http://markup.edgewall.org/browser/trunk/examples/trac
[03:07:07] <cmlenz> only a couple of templates migrated so far
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[03:15:13] <tuxipuxi_> hi there, anybody know how I can disable the "Tag List" page for anonymous users? somehow it can see them even with 0 permissions granetd
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[03:21:42] * asmodai studies markup some more
[03:21:53] <asmodai> cmlenz: I do like how you made filtering its own separate domain
[03:27:48] <cmlenz> what do you mean?
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[03:51:13] <asmodai> cmlenz: a separate part in the entire process.
[03:57:59] <cmlenz> yeah
[03:59:04] <cmlenz> well, what I really like is that everything is just generators working on streams, basically every component has the same API
[04:02:16] <asmodai> *nod*
[04:02:21] <asmodai> Make sense too in my opinion
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[05:01:44] <rubella> root@Qdevel64:/etc/trac/bin# ./trac-admin /Storage/trac/main initenv
[05:01:44] <rubella> Traceback (most recent call last):
[05:01:44] <rubella> File "./trac-admin", line 21, in ?
[05:01:44] <rubella> from trac.scripts.admin import run
[05:01:45] <rubella> ImportError: No module named trac.scripts.admin
[05:01:48] <rubella> helloww
[05:01:57] <rubella> someone an idea?
[05:04:10] <rubella> have completely no idea...
[05:04:25] <otaku42> rubella: did you check the installation instructions, and followed them?
[05:04:40] <otaku42> rubella: ah, no, wait
[05:04:43] <rubella> yes, it's not the first time i install trac...
[05:05:01] <rubella> you know something... :)
[05:05:02] <otaku42> rubella: forget about that, missed the part where you called trac-admin, sorry. i thought it was about web-admin
[05:05:12] <rubella> i see
[05:05:13] <otaku42> rubella: no, unfortunately not
[05:05:21] <rubella> aiii :(
[05:05:24] <rubella> ;)
[05:05:50] <rubella> no, very strange, i have 4 servers with trac, it's the first time i have this issue
[05:09:02] <rubella> i am thinking...
[05:09:16] <rubella> it's the first time i install it on 64-bit
[05:09:28] <rubella> can this be the problem?
[05:13:32] <xjjk> rubella: are you using python 2.3?
[05:14:07] <rubella> nope, 2.4
[05:14:12] <xjjk> hrm, ok
[05:15:03] <rubella> i think i just fucked it up while using the prefix during installation
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[05:28:15] <rubella> idd, the prefix is the cocksucker... using this one fucks up the whole installation... :))
[05:28:33] <rubella> excuse me for my language... :)
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[05:49:08] <maj> hi
[05:52:52] <maj> anyone? :)
[05:59:50] <maj> bye
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[06:00:30] <cmlenz> yeah, that's how IRC works
[06:03:18] <sam`> hi
[06:03:32] <sam`> UserWarning: Module ticketdelete was already imported from ..., but ... is being added to sys.path
[06:03:42] <sam`> any idea why i keep getting these in the error log?
[06:04:19] <sam`> (i have put the ticketdelete plugin in the plugins/ directory of more than one trac env, but i don't know how to make it in an other way)
[06:04:45] <danderson> sam`: have you installed ticketdelete systemwide?
[06:06:03] <sam`> no, because it does not work system wide -don't know why, though
[06:09:15] <danderson> you have to explicitely enable the plugin after a systemwide install
[06:09:33] <danderson> eg. in the trac.ini [components] section:
[06:09:41] <danderson> ticketdelete.* = enabled
[06:10:08] <sam`> k
[06:10:16] <sam`> i thought it was a subcomponent of the webadmin component
[06:10:36] <danderson> it integrates with the webadmin component
[06:10:46] <danderson> but it still needs to be enabled by itself
[06:10:49] <sam`> ok
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[06:41:26] <SirSushi> quick question: is it possible to write colored text in the trac wiki?
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[06:45:53] <[miles]> afternoon #trac
[06:46:04] <[miles]> I'm having some problems getting notifications to work...
[06:46:21] <[miles]> I've set in the trac.ini the smtp server name, username, pass etc
[06:46:23] <[miles]> but get
[06:46:35] <[miles]> http://pastebin.ca/86893
[06:46:36] <[miles]> every time
[06:46:42] <[miles]> anyone who could assist please?
[06:46:53] * [miles] is no Python guy
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[06:51:32] <[miles]> 0.9.4 btw
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[07:55:57] <pacopablo> well, we'll see how well that does
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[09:13:01] <coderanger_> Alo y'all
[09:13:17] <keyjaque> hi all
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[09:16:25] <coderanger_> It's amazing how many people seem hellbent on duplicating work
[09:24:25] <pacopablo> nihs
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[09:29:00] <whitelynx> i'm running into some problems with the NavMoverPlugin from TracHacks...
[09:29:12] <whitelynx> if I enable it at all, all my main navbar items disappear
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[10:06:57] <whitelynx> i just ran across another problem... now that I installed the WebAdmin plugin and the Tags plugin globally on my server, a couple of my Trac projects no longer work
[10:07:03] <whitelynx> they give me the error "No handler matched request to"
[10:07:11] <whitelynx> https://adidas.servegame.org/projects/dbz
[10:07:21] <whitelynx> and the log doesn't give any helpful information except a traceback
[10:07:36] <benny`work> hi! want to store some static documents (images, pdfs, etc)...if i put them into "htdocs", how do i get them via browser? mytracinstall/htdocs does not work...
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[10:10:45] <coderanger_> whitelynx: Pastebin the traceback?
[10:11:29] <coderanger_> benny`work: http://trac.edgewall.org/wiki/TracStandalone#Servingstaticcontent
[10:12:01] <coderanger_> Though if you are using a real webserver instead of tracd, its recommended that you use its own mechanism for serving static data
[10:12:07] <coderanger_> (mostly for speed reasons)
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[10:15:12] <benny`work> ok works..thanks coderanger
[10:16:17] <jhh> good evening!
[10:18:28] <coderanger_> alo
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[10:19:17] <jhh> i thought i pop in to see if anyone got a hint for me...
[10:19:47] <mute> howdy. Is there any combination of permissions that will prevent viewing any (SVN) file contents, but allow viewing checking messages and such?
[10:20:30] <jhh> I am using a few trac-projects in that "parent"-mode or what it's called, and it has this startpage as overview... I would like to set up an individual view for users depending on what trac-projects they can see... should I better do it manualy including accassing the database, or should I dive into trac, which I did not do at all yet
[10:20:33] <mute> turning off FILE_VIEW prevents viewing the files directly through the browser, but you can still go through the changeset view and see a diff area.
[10:21:17] <mute> *shrug* on that...
[10:21:53] <jhh> sorry mute, I can't help you here. rather new to trac, i am "using"it, but did not dive into internals
[10:22:50] <mute> know any python?
[10:23:15] <whitelynx> coderanger: http://www.rafb.net/paste/results/ZbgEoe81.html
[10:23:24] <whitelynx> sorry that took so long
[10:23:38] <jhh> "sort of" ;) I guess I could find things somehow, and I think I could change things as well, but "knowing" is probably too much. but that's no reason to go into it if needed ;)
[10:24:13] <mute> yeah, I'm about to start doing a lot of undereducated guessing, too, it seems.
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[10:24:22] <mute_lnch> back in a few...
[10:24:33] <jhh> haha, "undereducated guessing", funny :)
[10:26:16] <coderanger_> jhh: Thats not easy
[10:26:46] <jhh> either way, or the "dive-into" way?
[10:27:15] <coderanger_> You will need to make a new template at the very least
[10:27:16] <jhh> i guess it's version 2 on the roadmap what I'd like most ;)
[10:27:38] <jhh> i guess that's needed anyway, as the default pages looks just boring ;)
[10:27:57] <matt_good> mute_lnch: I believe that 0.10 hides the diffs in the changeset view if the user doesn't have FILE_VIEW permissions
[10:28:29] <coderanger_> jhh: How would you be identifing users?
[10:29:17] <jhh> no idea yet. strictly they are system users. i guess they are somewhere in the globals, I guess I could find them. the larger problem seems to be how to connect them to one or more of the trac instances
[10:29:37] <jhh> or not system users, you know...
[10:29:53] <coderanger_> jhh: Wait a month and ask again
[10:29:58] <coderanger_> jhh: Its in the works
[10:30:29] <jhh> for which release? I could have a look at those tickets and keep an eye on them
[10:30:42] <coderanger_> Its actually being built as a plugin
[10:30:51] <coderanger_> Look at the TracForge plugin on trac-hacks
[10:31:16] <jhh> ah, oh, so I can not see it in the official trac. no problem... is there any plugin page in the wiki which shows what is in progress?
[10:31:23] <jhh> ok, thanks, I'll search that
[10:31:42] <coderanger_> multi-project support is a hard problem to tackle
[10:31:52] <jhh> i know :)
[10:32:25] <jhh> just as a general question, how much budget and time do you estimate the team (if there is any ;)) needs to get it done?
[10:32:28] <whitelynx> coderanger_: did you see the traceback?
[10:33:18] <coderanger_> whitelynx: Yeah, not sure what to tell you
[10:33:24] <jhh> http://trac-hacks.org/ found it. thanks a lot
[10:33:42] <coderanger_> jhh: The team is me
[10:34:18] <coderanger_> jhh: And I am hoping to have most of it done in about 4 weeks
[10:34:27] <coderanger_> give or take how much free time I have
[10:34:56] <coderanger_> whitelynx: It seems to be confused as to what path_info is
[10:35:32] <whitelynx> hm
[10:35:41] <whitelynx> any ideas what would cause that?
[10:35:49] <coderanger_> Not off hand
[10:37:26] <jhh> those plugins at trac-hacks.org are ment to run with the 0.10-release, did I get that right?
[10:38:02] <coderanger_> jhh: Yes, by the time the plugin is usable, 0.10 should be out (or very close to out), so I am targetting that release
[10:38:13] <jhh> ok, thanks
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[10:54:59] <mute> matt_good: thanks, maybe it's worth checking out the changeset view source and copying the useful parts into 0.9.x for now, since I won't have to track changes through 0.10
[10:56:11] <benny`work> hm..want to set float=left for an image in my trac wiki...but it does not work with the image macro :( [[Image(htdocs:exclipse_ss.jpg, float=left, nolink)]]
[10:58:20] <benny`work> ok..done :d
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[12:01:29] <alect> moo
[12:03:06] <coderanger_> bah
[12:04:50] <coderanger_> Still at google?
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[12:18:46] <dcab> hi all
[12:19:16] <dcab> all running trac dev 0.10
[12:19:40] <dcab> where I can find setup for it? (msi file)
[12:19:51] <dcab> or I need to get it from svn?
[12:20:53] <misc> i think there isn't
[12:21:30] <dcab> %(
[12:23:18] <matt_good> dcab: you need to get it from SVN
[12:23:44] <dcab> matt_good: ok
[12:24:44] <dcab> matt_good: from trunk?
[12:25:37] <matt_good> yeah
[12:37:27] <alect> coderanger: yeah
[12:37:52] <coderanger_> alect: Wow, long training
[12:38:04] <alect> here for another two weeks after this one
[12:42:35] <coderanger_> It takes a long time to absorb your essence into the Collective ;-)
[12:50:52] <alect> heh yeah
[12:51:07] <alect> bloody ran out of disk on swapoff
[12:51:12] * alect pats lvextend
[12:52:19] <alect> i like the new interface to browsing the history of a page
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[13:03:53] <pacopablo> good afternoon all
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[13:09:24] <pacopablo> look at coderanger running away when I come in :)
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[13:18:46] <pacopablo> cmlenz: I love the new edgewall.com layout!
[13:19:01] <pacopablo> at fist I wasn't so crazy about the gray on either side
[13:19:34] <pacopablo> but it's worth it because the google adds now don't overlap the wiki content on small resoulutions.
[13:19:37] <pacopablo> good job ;)
[13:21:18] <alect> hey paco
[13:21:24] <pacopablo> hey alect
[13:22:47] <pacopablo> when you taking a road trip up to portland? :)
[13:22:53] <alect> heh
[13:23:00] <alect> no time for that unfortunately
[13:23:02] <alect> and no car also ;)
[13:23:19] <pacopablo> hitchhiking? :)
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[13:24:01] <alect> heh
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[13:28:08] <erg> does anyone have a recipe for using 0.10 with the debian packaging tools?
[13:29:10] <erg> browsing the source, it looks like there are .deb releases thru 0.9.6, but I sure would like to run 0.10 (smtp_default_domain... yummy :)
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[13:31:16] <pacopablo> erg: 0.10 isn't released yet
[13:31:20] <pacopablo> so you hav eto grab it from svn
[13:31:43] <erg> yeah, but often times there is debbuild support in the upstream repository
[13:36:07] <erg> what I want (right now) out of 0.10 is the ability for trac to notify users of ticket changes (via email) without them having to provide a full e-mail address in the [owner|reporter|cc] ticket fields.
[13:36:43] <pacopablo> it's pretty easy to install from an svn checkou
[13:36:48] <pacopablo> er, checkout
[13:37:08] <pacopablo> and uninstall is pretyt easy too.
[13:37:20] <erg> when someone logs in and provides the data requested at [Settings], is there any way to automatically use that e-mail address?
[13:37:35] <erg> er, with ticket change notifications, I mean
[13:38:16] <pacopablo> in the CC field, if you just specify username, and not email address, then it'll use the email address entered into the settings page.
[13:38:32] <erg> how about the owner field?
[13:38:39] <pacopablo> same deal
[13:39:29] <erg> so if I have always 'notify owner = true' in my project's trac.ini, and a user has provided their e-mail in the settings, it should e-mail them, right?
[13:39:57] <pacopablo> right
[13:40:03] <erg> I mean, when there's a change to a ticket that they own
[13:40:09] <pacopablo> yes
[13:40:51] <erg> that goes for the reporter as well (assuming I set 'always notify reporter = true')?
[13:40:57] <pacopablo> yes
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[13:51:33] <erg> it seems that the order of lines in my trac.ini is modified, perhaps by some plugin, is this known behavior?
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[14:01:56] <matt_good> erg: are you using WebAdmin?
[14:02:04] <erg> yep
[14:02:08] <matt_good> yeah
[14:02:27] <matt_good> the Python ConfigParser module doesn't preserve the order when it saves the config
[14:02:27] <erg> it reorders trac.ini directives within the sections?
[14:02:31] <erg> aha
[14:02:51] <erg> do you know if there's any way to have WebAdmin order the select boxes in the admin console?
[14:03:12] <matt_good> which select boxes?
[14:03:13] <erg> eg, for adding permissions to a user, the perms list is all out of order
[14:09:09] <erg> ok, another q:
[14:09:26] <erg> I used WikiRename to move some pages around, after having tagged them using the TracTags plugin
[14:09:52] <erg> now, TracTags seems to be maintaining a reference to the old page...
[14:11:06] <erg> eg, when I use the wantedPages macro, it lists several pages that are only referenced by the TracTag, which I can verify when I go to http://host/trac/tags/%27tagname%27
[14:11:59] <erg> is there any way to force TracTags to resync with the wiki?
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[14:17:30] <hacim> is there a way I can dump the wiki/tickets and then re-import them into a new project? I want to _downgrade_ to the 0.99 release from the svn devel release
[14:18:51] <hacim> I see that I can do a wiki dump, and then maybe I can pull things in from that
[14:19:00] <matt_good> that's just the wiki pages
[14:19:09] <matt_good> plus you lose the history of the pages
[14:19:39] <matt_good> any particular reason to downgrade?
[14:19:49] <matt_good> 0.10 is getting pretty close to completion
[14:19:59] <hacim> matt_good: I can't get the email2trac to work with it
[14:20:23] <hacim> I filed a ticket and it hasn't been resolved yet, and I just ran into another issue and I need a working system
[14:20:57] <hacim> i dont really need the history of the pages, as they are all fairly new, but I dont see any way to backup tickets either
[14:21:03] <matt_good> are you using the on provided with Trac, or this one: http://trac-hacks.org/wiki/EmailtoTracScript
[14:21:50] <hacim> matt_good: that second one... I was not aware that there is an email2trac script provided with trac
[14:22:25] <matt_good> well, the one on trac-hacks is getting more development
[14:23:47] <hacim> so no way to dump tickets?
[14:24:00] <matt_good> not easily
[14:24:39] <hacim> hrm
[14:25:07] <matt_good> you can dump the database, but you'd need to reverse the schema changes that have been made in order to import them into an older db
[14:25:20] <hacim> yeah, not easy
[14:25:26] <matt_good> hacim: which ticket did you file http://trac-hacks.org/report/9?COMPONENT=EmailtoTracScript
[14:25:46] <hacim> matt_good: http://trac-hacks.org/ticket/490
[14:26:15] <hacim> matt_good: which I tracked down to changes made to notification.py, so I filed a bug there: http://trac.edgewall.org/ticket/3361
[14:26:45] <hacim> now its a matter of the emailtotrac author needs to have a look at how things have changed and respond to that ticket
[14:27:08] <hacim>