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July 21, 2006

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[00:13:45] <otaku42> moin
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[00:39:54] <asmodai> alect: no, didn't
[00:42:22] <alect> dooo eeeet
[00:56:51] <mitsuhiko> pacopablo: http://trac.pocoo.org/irclogs <-- finished :)
[00:57:11] <mitsuhiko> i'll add the regex overwriting via config later
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[04:01:18] <flosch> hi
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[06:12:38] <otaku42> re
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[07:50:13] <capitalfellow> can i ask a question about login?
[07:55:20] <gakman> asking to ask a question on irc is a funny thing to see :)
[07:55:58] <gakman> most people are alseep, so im not sure if u can get a good answer at the moment
[07:56:15] <gakman> s/alseep/asleep/
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[08:12:17] <Twiggy> Hey is there a way to change the default page a user goes to when they visit the project page? I've got trac on an internal web server, we have no need for teh wiki
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[08:19:12] <capitalfellow> gakman: well I wasn't sure if a question about configuration might be too involved for irc
[08:19:25] <capitalfellow> gakman: should I check back in 4 hours?
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[08:47:29] <matt_good> Twiggy: default_handler http://trac.edgewall.org/wiki/TracIni#trac
[08:49:44] <Twiggy> matt_good: thankya
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[09:15:45] <ajt> When I surf to http://localhost/trac/browser I get the error " Insufficient permissions to access /" what could be wrong?
[09:20:46] <Blackhex> path to svn repository?
[09:21:23] <ajt> huh?
[09:23:19] <Blackhex> repository_dir = <path_to_repository> line in [trac] section of trac.ini configuration file
[09:25:10] <ajt> it looks like it's got proper permission
[09:25:19] <ajt> the webserver has read write access
[09:25:40] <pacopablo> ajt: are you using authz or anything?
[09:26:11] <pacopablo> also, turn on logging and see if anything shows up there
[09:26:13] <pacopablo> @faq logging
[09:26:13] <evil_twin> pacopablo: "logging" is http://projects.edgewall.com/trac/wiki/TracLogging <-- Enable debug logging to file, ensure your environments log/ directory is writeable by your web server user, check for errors.
[09:26:28] <ajt> pacopablo: let me double check the authz file
[09:27:20] <ajt> [repo:/] * = rw
[09:30:45] <ajt> PermissionDenied: Insufficient permissions to access / 09:37:34 Trac[svn_fs] DEBUG: Closing subversion file-system at /home/localhype/var/svn/tob
[09:30:51] <ajt> doesn't tell me anything additional
[09:30:59] <ajt> http://sdn.seagullsystems.com/trac/localhype/tob/browser
[09:31:13] <ajt> http://sdn.seagullsystems.com/svn/localhype/tob/
[09:32:16] <pacopablo> not sure what to tell you
[09:32:27] <pacopablo> it does look like some kind of permissions error
[09:33:23] <ajt> humm
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[09:48:56] <pacopablo> yummy :)
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[10:07:19] <Epcylon> Is there anyway to make relative links in WikiFormatting? For instance if I want to link to the the about page from a wiki-page..
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[10:08:34] <erg> I'm trying to figure out how to install trac within a user's home directory... INSTALL isn't much help
[10:08:49] <erg> anybody have trac running out of a homedir
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[10:11:16] <pacopablo> Epcylon: [/relative linkname]
[10:11:19] <pacopablo> erg: yes
[10:11:35] <pacopablo> erg: python setup.py install --prefix=/path/to/install/dir
[10:12:06] <erg> and that'll correctly reference the site-packages, and keep everything tidy?
[10:12:09] <erg> :)
[10:12:45] <pacopablo> then: PYTHONPATH="/path/to/install/dir/lib/python2.X/site-packages" blah
[10:13:00] <pacopablo> erg: you'll have to make sure the PYTHONPATH is set properly
[10:13:11] <erg> do you need to put that in .bashrc or equivalent?
[10:13:26] <erg> or in an apache site config?
[10:14:35] <pacopablo> depends on how you run trac
[10:14:55] <pacopablo> if you're running it via apche, then ti's fine to just set the env variable in the apache config
[10:15:07] <pacopablo> if you're running tracd, then you need to make sure it's set in the shell
[10:16:30] <erg> ok, I'm trying to serve it via apache mod_python (or fastcgi if necessary) out of a user's home directory
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[10:17:08] <erg> to the extent possible, I'd rather not hard code the PYTHONPATH in the apache virtual host config
[10:17:48] <erg> do you think I can use a glob in the apache virtual host config for the PYTHONPATH?
[10:18:34] <erg> eg, PYTHONPATH="/home/*/path/to/trac/install"
[10:18:39] <pacopablo> not sure
[10:18:59] <pacopablo> depends on if it actually gets expanded when the env var gets set
[10:19:18] <pacopablo> actually, that would probably cause problems
[10:19:40] <pacopablo> as if it did get expanded, then the python path would be set to all users local installs
[10:19:51] <erg> or maybe $USER? do you know if variables get expanded?
[10:19:57] <pacopablo> I don't
[10:20:09] <pacopablo> that's a question that's better for an apache channel
[10:20:19] <erg> good point :)
[10:20:26] <erg> thanks very much for your help
[10:20:59] <pacopablo> np, good luck
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[10:29:10] <cboos> hi cmlenz
[10:29:36] <cmlenz> hey cboos
[10:29:38] <cmlenz> welcome back :-)
[10:29:54] <cboos> yeah, lot of distraction away from trac, at work ...
[10:29:59] <cboos> unfortunately ;)
[10:30:16] <cboos> I just noticed that the egdewall Tracs are serving again the /chrome stuff
[10:30:30] <cboos> that could explain the slowdowns and lots of locks I'm seeing there ...
[10:30:34] <cmlenz> oh
[10:30:46] <cmlenz> I'll look into that later
[10:30:53] <cmlenz> nice catch
[10:31:06] <cboos> yep, wanted to inform someone from the inner circle ;)
[10:32:03] <cboos> those painful locks occurred also a lot when I was saving comments here and there, so I'm not sure the patches I made will get noticed
[10:32:33] <cboos> I'd like in particular the one about early errors to be reviewed by you or mgood
[10:32:43] <cmlenz> ah cool
[10:32:47] <cmlenz> what ticket # was that?
[10:32:54] <cboos> i.e. #3328
[10:33:08] <cboos> see http://trac.edgewall.org/ticket/3328#comment:7
[10:33:39] <cmlenz> thx
[10:33:41] <cmlenz> bbiab
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[12:11:56] <alect> hi
[12:12:01] <coderanger> alo
[12:12:22] <pacopablo> jello
[12:13:00] <pacopablo> anoyne have a brilliant idea of how I can get supy bot to not create the log files w/ perms set to 600 ?
[12:16:11] <coderanger> what user does it run as?
[12:16:49] <pacopablo> me
[12:16:56] <pacopablo> and I've changed my umask to no affect
[12:17:18] <pacopablo> not that I should had needed to change it, since my usmask doesn't create 600 perms
[12:17:35] <pacopablo> so I'm thinking that it might be in the code? what else affects file creation permissions?
[12:17:37] <coderanger> grep the source and see if/where it changes the umask or chmods the file?
[12:19:30] <coderanger> It would be really nice if RepoSearch got included with Trac at some point
[12:19:40] <erg> heck yeah it would
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[12:22:17] <pacopablo> grr, it doesn't look like the ChannelLogger plugin is modifying the file permissions in any way :(
[12:22:53] <pacopablo> I guess I could just run the bot as the apache user
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[12:28:20] <erg> this is a n00b question, but.... for developing trac plugins, would you recommend locally checkout of the trac trunk, or mirroring the edgewall svn in a local repo (via 'vendor drop' or `svn:externals`)?
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[12:29:11] <coderanger> I just use a custom ebuild to install from the current trunk, and refresh it every now and then
[12:29:31] <erg> for development or production?
[12:30:00] <erg> oh
[12:31:25] <erg> but I'm on debian :)
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[12:32:54] <coderanger> pacopablo: Got it I think
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[12:33:41] <coderanger> grep umask scripts/supybot
[12:34:01] <coderanger> It resets the umask before daemonizing
[12:35:05] <coderanger> Wow, supybot is awful
[12:35:36] <xjjk> coderanger: yah it is
[12:35:49] <xjjk> there's some irc bot that uses twisted... forgot the name
[12:36:11] <coderanger> Just within the same screen of text as the umask call, they close stdin twice
[12:36:30] <coderanger> 2 lines between the calls
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[12:42:02] <coderanger> all better?
[12:42:26] <pacopablo> we'll see
[12:42:33] <pacopablo> I commented out the umask line
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[12:44:16] <mitsuhiko> re
[12:44:23] <pacopablo> much better
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[12:44:52] <coderanger> I love the comment a few lines up "We should respect the users umask", and then the call is commented out
[12:45:08] <pacopablo> yeah
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[12:45:57] <pacopablo> well, supybot now uses the umask that I set for it :)
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[12:46:18] <pacopablo> which will make the irclog plugin much more effective :)
[12:46:29] <pacopablo> mitsuhiko: I like the new calendar
[12:46:57] <pacopablo> mitsuhiko: however, o nthe detail page, it can screw up long lines if there are any in the first 10 or so lines
[12:47:08] <mitsuhiko> jep. that's a problem
[12:47:28] <pacopablo> not sure I have a solution though
[12:47:28] <mitsuhiko> and navigating to dates with no entry just raises en TracError and doesn't display the calendar box any more
[12:47:41] <pacopablo> true
[12:48:10] <mitsuhiko> pacopablo: it was hard enough to make the lines autowrap in all browsers whilst saving whitespaces :(
[12:48:17] <pacopablo> hehe :)
[12:48:57] <mitsuhiko> white-space: pre-wrap;
[12:48:57] <mitsuhiko> white-space: -moz-pre-wrap;
[12:48:57] <mitsuhiko> white-space: -pre-wrap;
[12:48:57] <mitsuhiko> white-space: -o-pre-wrap;
[12:48:58] <mitsuhiko> word-wrap: break-word;
[12:48:58] <mitsuhiko> _white-space: pre;
[12:49:05] <mitsuhiko> each browser it's own white-space setting...
[12:49:08] <mitsuhiko> that sucks
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[13:03:27] <mitsuhiko> asmodai: ping
[13:03:44] <mitsuhiko> asmodai: http://trac.tendra.org/codetags <-- your trac? if yes, the bug is fixed now
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[13:09:48] <chjunior> hi people! somebody knows how can I define the filetype XMI to don't expand, but to download....
[13:10:18] <chjunior> because when I click in a link of a XMI file, it is showed as a text file
[13:12:31] <pacopablo> what server are you using?
[13:12:34] <coderanger> chjunior: There should be a link at the bottom to download
[13:13:27] <chjunior> thank you!
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[13:23:23] <chjunior> how to enable e-mail in trac?
[13:23:35] <pacopablo> @faq ini
[13:23:36] <evil_twin> pacopablo: "ini" is See http://projects.edgewall.com/trac/wiki/TracIni for details on the Trac configuration file.
[13:23:47] <pacopablo> take a look at the notification section
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[13:42:07] <bijan> how can I delete the closed tickets from the system, I do not one to have them at all.
[13:43:08] <coderanger> "Don't"
[13:43:22] <coderanger> If you really want to you can use TicketDelete
[13:43:31] <coderanger> But thats not a good way to run a tracker
[13:48:26] <bijan> Coderanger: I can not find the TicketDelete button, where is it?
[13:48:39] <coderanger> bijan: Its a plugin on trac-hacks
[13:49:10] <bijan> how can I do it manually
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[13:49:20] <coderanger> Don't
[13:49:43] <bijan> if I want should I go to the db
[13:50:03] <coderanger> Is there a reason to not just install the plugin
[13:56:29] <chjunior> how to configure TLS authentication method of SMTP in Trac?
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[13:59:09] <pacopablo> chjunior: not sure that you can
[13:59:32] <chjunior> yeah, i'm seeing, there is a ticket for this
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[14:02:48] <pacopablo> chjunior: looks like it is actually available in the current trunk
[14:03:43] <pacopablo> http://trac.edgewall.org/changeset/3336
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[14:08:33] <chjunior> pacopablo, when will you release the next version of Trac with TLS support
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[14:09:19] <pacopablo> I wont, since I'm not a trac dev :)
[14:09:25] <pacopablo> but it should be out soon
[14:09:32] <pacopablo> probably some time in August
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[14:10:26] <chjunior> pacopablo, are you dev of psycopg ?
[14:10:30] <pacopablo> no
[14:10:48] <pacopablo> I'm not a dev of much :)
[14:10:58] <chjunior> pacopablo, sorry, I confunded you with somebody :D
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[14:43:20] <erg> is there any way to implement conditional fields within ticket-custom?
[14:44:23] <erg> for instance, I have two drop-downs, and I want the second to display a subset of the total possible options, based on the value of the first
[14:44:39] <erg> is it possible with custom ticket fields as they exist in 0.9.6?
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