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July 28, 2006

[00:00:38] <paolo> ah, I have discovered Update Instructions page right now, more than enough to answer my question
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[01:48:33] <cmlenz> wow, I had no idea sixapart uses trac for MT
[01:49:04] <cmlenz> and why TF is it so hard to replace the friggin logo :-P
[01:49:47] <cmlenz> we should probably ship with WTFU as the default logo (http://thedailywtf.com/forums/thread/83586.aspx)
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[02:09:31] <jenner> heya
[02:10:28] <jenner> guys, is it possible to run trac without SVN? I'd like to use it as bugt- and release-tracker only
[02:11:31] <mitsuhiko> jenner: jep. try trac0.10-dev
[02:13:02] <jenner> ah, there's even an FAQ answer: http://trac.edgewall.org/wiki/TracFaq#is-it-possible-to-disable-the-version-control-component
[02:13:08] <jenner> mitsuhiko: thanks
[02:15:12] <jenner> mitsuhiko: 0.10-dev is not even tagged yet... do you mean trunk?
[02:15:27] <mitsuhiko> jenner: jep. that's the trunk
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[02:18:22] <jenner> heh, are there any major changes since 20060710? 'cos debian has got 0.9.99+0.10svn20060710 in experimental :)
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[02:23:19] <mitsuhiko> dunno
[02:32:27] <jenner> hm, I get a 'AssertionError: Authentication information not available.' in my local tracd when I click on the login link
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[03:22:47] <tommyd> Hi all! Is there a way to import the contents of a MoinMoin wiki to trac?
[03:27:08] <tuxipuxi> cmlenz: thanks to braindead kiddies i now had to disable the permissions page. so, logging, plugins and permissions are gone now.
[03:27:25] <tuxipuxi> i can't believe that someone can be so fucking stupid
[03:27:33] <tuxipuxi> "DO_NOT_REMOVE_USER_BELOW" doesn't stop them
[03:27:36] <cmlenz> :-(
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[03:27:41] <cmlenz> it's a sad sad world
[03:27:50] <tuxipuxi> heh yeah :)
[03:28:10] <greatauk> Hi all, I have a question...
[03:28:52] <greatauk> Is there any way I can configure the timeline to show not only when the status of a ticket changes, but when someone comments on a ticket as well?
[03:29:27] <otaku42> greatauk: checking the "ticket changes" checkbox should do the trick
[03:29:57] <cmlenz> you need to enable that in TracIni
[03:30:18] <cmlenz> ticket_show_details or sth
[03:30:21] <cmlenz> in [timeline]
[03:33:14] <greatauk> all I can see in [timeline] is changeset_show_files
[03:33:47] <cmlenz> what trac version?
[03:34:10] <greatauk> wait, sorry, it was in the tracini.sample
[03:36:18] <greatauk> do I have to restart something (like apache) to get it to work?
[03:36:57] <greatauk> no, I can see it now
[03:37:41] <greatauk> aaah beautiful. Thanks alot cmlenz.
[03:37:49] <greatauk> I really love Trac!
[03:38:07] <cmlenz> cool :-)
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[04:14:04] <Gruf> yeah trac is great, gotta look the trac hacks and see if I can scrumify it
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[05:08:23] <Blackhex> which plugin added Reply button on tickets at http://track-hacks.org please?
[05:13:28] <otaku42> Blackhex: i guess the plugin is called "trac 0.10dev" :) edgewall's trac has that, too
[05:13:45] <Blackhex> :-)
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[05:49:27] <k2s> hello, could you help me with TRAC setup under Apache on CentOS ?
[05:52:09] <k2s> nobody is here ?
[05:55:06] <Blackhex> where's the problem
[05:56:06] <k2s> 1. should i use mod_phyton or fastcgi ?
[05:56:48] <Blackhex> k2s: depend on your needs
[05:56:58] <k2s> 2. my project files are in /srv/trac and I would like to install trac to run as http://my.org/projects. I am getting 403 Forbidden
[05:57:40] <Blackhex> have you set rights to /srv/trac?
[05:58:04] <Blackhex> chown apache:apache -R /srv/trac for example
[05:58:11] <k2s> I used this http://www.madboa.com/geek/trac-centos/#adding
[05:58:29] <k2s> maybe the problem is chown -R apache /srv/trac/projectname/{attachments,db,log}
[05:58:53] <k2s> because that is setting right starting on projectname directory
[05:59:10] <k2s> should I chown -R apache /srv/trac/ instead ?
[05:59:44] <Blackhex> I guess you can do that, but I may be wrong
[06:00:07] <k2s> i will try, no real projects are already there...
[06:01:12] <k2s> still the same
[06:01:24] <Blackhex> what tells you log file
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[06:02:02] <k2s> i am trying to put my config to pastebin.com, but it is slow
[06:02:32] <k2s> [Fri Jul 28 08:52:23 2006] [error] [client 10.155.160.70] File does not exist: /var/www/html/trac
[06:02:32] <k2s> [Fri Jul 28 08:52:38 2006] [error] [client 10.155.160.70] (13)Permission denied: access to /projects denied
[06:02:32] <k2s> [Fri Jul 28 09:00:40 2006] [error] [client 10.155.160.70] (13)Permission denied: access to /projects denied
[06:02:58] <k2s> hmmm, i never set something like /var/www/html/trac
[06:03:16] <Blackhex> so you have propably wrong path to environment setted
[06:05:03] <k2s> http://nopaste.snit.ch:8001/7790
[06:05:08] <Blackhex> i guess this option PythonOption TracEnvParentDir "/srv/trac"
[06:05:27] <k2s> http://nopaste.snit.ch:8001/7791
[06:05:39] <k2s> so i think i have totaly wrong config
[06:05:43] <k2s> pls. see the second link
[06:06:11] <Blackhex> PythonOption TracEnvParentDir "/srv/trac" is missing
[06:06:25] <k2s> what is the difference TracEnvParentDir and TracEnv
[06:06:45] <Blackhex> TracEnvParentDir is place where you have your projects
[06:06:55] <Blackhex> and TrcEvn is place where you have you trac installation
[06:07:46] <Blackhex> i guess i'll look to documentation rather
[06:08:07] <k2s> pls. let me know which documentation are you using,thx
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[06:08:41] <Blackhex> http://trac.edgewall.org/wiki/
[06:09:41] <k2s> i tried first to follow http://trac.edgewall.org/wiki/TracModPython, but also without success
[06:11:00] <Blackhex> TracEnv is path if you are using single project
[06:11:19] <k2s> I dont have an idea where trac is installed :-(. maybe Alias /usr/share/trac/htdocs/ ?
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[06:11:36] <exarkun> tracd just went up to a gig of ram in half an hour
[06:11:40] <Blackhex> doesn't matter, I was wrong with that
[06:12:04] <k2s> do you have it running with your apache2 ?
[06:12:12] <Blackhex> yes
[06:12:17] <k2s> could you show me your config handling Trac ?
[06:12:24] <Blackhex> ill post you my confing
[06:13:01] <k2s> that will help
[06:13:23] <k2s> that is a problem in trac documentation that there is not a final config example
[06:13:31] <Blackhex> http://nopaste.snit.ch:8001/7792
[06:16:31] <Blackhex> try figure out simething with that, I must go shopping so maybe later
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[06:17:00] <exarkun> but I guess no one cares if tracd crashes once in a while?
[06:21:10] <exarkun> the other sys admin told me this has been a nightly thing for about a week, actually
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[06:40:56] <exarkun> hey look it did it again
[06:42:16] <exarkun> how do I get some useful debug output out of trac?
[06:42:49] <exarkun> I already have "log_level = DEBUG" but it doesn't seem to log anything useful.
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[07:00:39] <cmlenz> http://code.google.com/hosting/faq.html
[07:06:44] <exarkun> from looking at strace output, it looks like trac's select loop is broken. although I didn't realize tracd even bothered with select().
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[07:08:55] <exarkun> I guess it doesn't, but svn does
[07:09:01] <exarkun> Every time I hit the file browser it tanks.
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[08:32:45] <rfligg> OK
[08:33:05] <rfligg> finally got my Suse 9.3 Apache2 w/ mod_python for multiple projects working
[08:33:09] <rfligg> I will post my solution later
[08:33:21] <rfligg> trying to install TRAC admin at the moment
[08:33:30] <rfligg> simple question but when I unzip the file
[08:33:36] <rfligg> the .egg.zip file
[08:33:47] <rfligg> it extracts everything to folders and dirs
[08:33:59] <rfligg> shouldn't it just extract a .egg file for installation?
[08:34:50] <misc> no
[08:34:50] <coderanger_> You don't unzip it
[08:34:55] <coderanger_> just remove the .zip
[08:35:04] <coderanger_> Assuming you meant WebAdmin
[08:37:49] <rfligg> ah
[08:37:57] <rfligg> well that is a bit odd
[08:38:00] <rfligg> thanx guys
[08:38:19] <coderanger_> Browsers don't recognize the .egg extension most of the time
[08:38:32] <coderanger_> So things break when you try to download it
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[08:51:34] <rfligg> ah
[08:51:36] <rfligg> OK
[08:51:42] <rfligg> so I ran easy_install, read the docs
[08:51:51] <rfligg> put the enabled string in my trac.ini
[08:51:58] <rfligg> logs say it is loading
[08:52:09] <rfligg> go into my project that has it enabled
[08:52:12] <rfligg> and nothing?
[08:52:25] <rfligg> do I need to move the .egg file to the plugins dir on all my projects?
[08:55:30] <coderanger_> No, easy_install takes card of it
[08:55:35] <coderanger_> what did you add to trac.ini?
[08:57:12] <rfligg> [components]
[08:57:12] <rfligg> trac.ticket.report.* = enabled
[08:57:13] <rfligg> webadmin.* = enabled
[08:57:29] <rfligg> sorry, I figured a 3 liner would not offend the hub too much
[08:57:41] <rfligg> so what does easy_install do?
[08:57:53] <rfligg> just wondering where it put the files
[08:58:09] <rfligg> should there be anything in each project's plugins directory?
[08:58:13] <coderanger_> your python site-packages folder
[08:58:20] <coderanger_> it also does stuff with the pth files
[08:58:25] <coderanger_> So python knows about it
[08:59:16] <rfligg> Yeah, I have all that setup in Apache vhosts.conf file for my trac multi project site
[08:59:28] <rfligg> maybe I will check the apache logs and see if it is complaining
[08:59:53] <rfligg> FYI, I have a strange multi project setup
[09:00:09] <rfligg> to get it to work under Suse 9.3 Apache2 and mod_python
[09:00:56] <rfligg> what was the pastebin site again?
[09:01:06] <rfligg> @faq pastebin
[09:01:06] <evil_twin> rfligg: "pastebin" is http://trac.pastebin.com
[09:01:33] <rfligg> got it
[09:01:39] <rfligg> is it running faster today?
[09:03:15] <rfligg> looks like it is down
[09:03:23] <rfligg> SQL Error
[09:03:24] <rfligg> Query failure: Table 'pastebin' was not locked with LOCK TABLES
[09:12:45] <rfligg> the pastebin is broken
[09:14:12] <rfligg> http://www.teleriddler.com/trac_files/vhost.conf
[09:14:15] <rfligg> my current config
[09:14:37] <rfligg> I have the SetEnv PYTHON_EGG_CACHE /srv/python_cache set in my conf file
[09:14:52] <rfligg> Location directives would not work w/ my Apache2 config
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[09:15:21] <rfligg> wondering if I should just put it in the Directory section
[09:23:38] <rfligg> getting this in the trac.log
[09:23:39] <rfligg> 10:19:30 Trac[loader] DEBUG: Loading plugin webadmin.plugin from /srv/trac/boards/plugins/TracWebAdmin-0.1.1dev_r2765-py2.4.egg
[09:23:48] <rfligg> looks like it is loading
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[09:55:05] <_gpg_> hi every one
[09:56:18] <pacopablo> jello
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[10:01:35] <rfligg> hm...........may have to give TRAC_ADMIN permissions
[10:01:38] <rfligg> trying.........
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[10:03:46] <rfligg> that was it
[10:04:05] <rfligg> sorry for bugging the channel w/ a simple perms problem
[10:05:48] <pacopablo> rfligg: got your authentication issue fixed?
[10:07:25] <_gpg_> is it possible to diplay defects / enhancements and tasks in eparates pages ?
[10:07:41] <coderanger_> _gpg_: Make a report or query
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[10:09:07] <rfligg> Yeah
[10:09:11] <rfligg> check out what I had to do
[10:09:21] <rfligg> http://www.teleriddler.com/trac_files/vhost.conf
[10:09:31] <rfligg> started from basics and kept adding until it worked
[10:09:42] <rfligg> the logout does not work but.........oh well
[10:09:50] <rfligg> pacopablo
[10:10:03] <rfligg> give me your thoughts on that config
[10:10:11] <rfligg> just got WebAdmin working too
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[10:12:11] <pacopablo> logout not working is a "feature" of how browsers handle HTTP authentication
[10:12:50] <pacopablo> that's a psycho config, but if it works ...
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[10:29:45] <coderanger_> hmmm
[10:30:04] <coderanger_> it would be really nice if trac had some kind of log size limit or rotation system
[10:33:36] <jacobat> coderanger_: Of which log?
[10:33:58] <coderanger_> trac.log, what other logfile does trac use?
[10:34:12] <jacobat> I don't know - I've never seen a trac.log
[10:34:19] <coderanger_> @logging
[10:34:19] <evil_twin> coderanger_: "logging" is http://projects.edgewall.com/trac/wiki/TracLogging <-- Enable debug logging to file, ensure your environments log/ directory is writeable by your web server user, check for errors.
[10:40:43] <coderanger_> pacopablo: Can you get to trac-hacks via https?
[10:41:20] <rfligg> coderanger, you can set the log file for different levels
[10:41:34] <rfligg> I would change from debug to critical if you don't want it filling up
[10:41:52] <coderanger_> rfligg: Not on a machine with ~1 hit/second
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[10:43:21] <coderanger_> alec-fly: STRT
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[10:51:29] <rfligg> gotcha
[10:52:06] <blue_flashlight> does anyone have authentication working with mod_python?
[10:55:20] <coderanger_> Yep
[10:58:59] <rfligg> I do
[10:59:24] <rfligg> FYI, when naming a project in trac, don't name it "cgi-bin" it REALLY doesn't like that ;-)
[10:59:53] <blue_flashlight> coderanger_: what's your authentication method?
[11:00:05] <blue_flashlight> rfligg: and yours* ;)
[11:01:53] <rfligg> I am using .htpasswd in the root trac dir
[11:02:06] <rfligg> I am running a messed up Apache2 config w/ Suse 9.3
[11:02:13] <rfligg> have a look at my vhost.conf if you want
[11:02:15] <rfligg> this worked for me
[11:02:18] <blue_flashlight> rfligg: please
[11:02:23] <rfligg> I could not get the <Location> directives to work
[11:02:38] <rfligg> http://www.teleriddler.com/trac_files/vhost.conf
[11:02:40] <rfligg> there you go
[11:03:56] <blue_flashlight> do you get the thing where the login was successful, but it doesn't show "logged in as <user>" ?
[11:04:41] <coderanger_> I use basic auth on mine
[11:04:49] <coderanger_> though in some its via mod_auth_pam
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[11:05:09] <Demian> is there work in progress to allow trac to access remote svn repositories, using http, https and svn protocols?
[11:05:14] <blue_flashlight> it works with tracd, using the same basic auth file, but not with apache... I had it with auth_pam, authnz_ldap (which would be ideal), but nothing would work :(
[11:09:54] <rfligg> hm.........
[11:10:19] <rfligg> is there a way to download and upload code to an SVN repository through TRAC?
[11:11:26] <rfligg> also, is there an easy way to copy permissions from one project to another?
[11:11:37] <rfligg> Say you setup a good permissions set on one project
[11:11:54] <rfligg> could I open the DB in SQLite and then export it and import to another DB?
[11:12:35] <De_mon> hrm... I installed the accountmanager plugin and I still get the http login prompt...
[11:12:42] <De_mon> I think it's because the login link points to domain.com/project/login instead of domain.com/project/login/
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[11:12:57] <blue_flashlight> rfligg: I think there's a dump command in the sqlite interactive console
[11:13:28] <De_mon> disabling the default login mechanism per the wiki appears to have no effect
[11:15:40] <rfligg> thanx blue_flashlight
[11:15:53] <blue_flashlight> np
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[11:23:53] <blue_flashlight> ok, so in the logs, it says DEBUG: Promoting anonymous session 794997b70808bb6ff6cd8484 to authenticated session for user testuser, but it did not promote my session at all :( ... is there a cache that should be cleared, or something?
[11:24:51] <coderanger_> blue_flashlight: Are you using SSPI by any chance?
[11:26:44] <blue_flashlight> coderanger_: not that I know of, how would I check
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[11:33:40] <coderanger_> It would be very obvious in your server config
[11:36:29] <blue_flashlight> I don't see it, no
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[11:59:51] <Demian> is there work in progress to allow trac to access remote svn repositories, using http, https and svn protocols?
[12:00:13] <Demian> ant not only local file system access.
[12:02:45] <coderanger_> no
[12:02:54] <coderanger_> Not from Trac anyway
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[12:10:20] <Demian> i wonder why
[12:12:17] <blue_flashlight> is it a feature to not prompt for password again upon logout?
[12:12:22] <s0undt3ch> Demian: because the svn python bingding are only usefull with local access to the repo, most info that trac makes available wouldnt be accecible remotly, at least thats what I think
[12:13:02] <Demian> I see, so the prob is in the python binding for svn.
[12:14:39] <s0undt3ch> Demian: don't take my word for granted, but yes I thing that's where the problem resides
[12:15:30] <s0undt3ch> but it's probably possible
[12:16:16] <s0undt3ch> an encrypted NSF remote mount tunnel is not a possible solution for you?
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[12:17:43] <Demian> though in that, but not encrypted..
[12:17:47] <Demian> ssh tunneled ?
[12:18:16] <s0undt3ch> well, thats probably the only way should have nfs in the wild :)
[12:19:26] <s0undt3ch> nfs is not a safe protocol by itself
[12:35:22] <Blackhex> alec-fly: are you here?
[12:38:40] <blue_flashlight> does anyone know where the server side session info is kept, and/or how to make a login timeout?
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[12:40:01] <coderanger_> blue_flashlight: trac.web.session I think
[12:40:14] <coderanger_> I think the default is 3 days
[12:40:26] <coderanger_> Remember that this has no effect if you don't close the browser
[12:43:14] <blue_flashlight> coderanger_: ah, what is it about closing the browser entirely? I thought closing the tab (in firefox) would be sufficient
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[12:47:22] <Blackhex> I don't think so
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[12:59:39] <coderanger_> No, you need to close the whole program for the HTTP auth cache to clear
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[13:14:05] <moisei> hello all!
[13:14:33] <Blackhex> hi
[13:14:37] <moisei> paste
[13:15:39] <moisei> I have Wiki combobox duplicated on the search page. it looks lile Tickets Wiki Wiki Changesets
[13:15:50] <moisei> oops I mean Wiki-checkbox
[13:16:12] <moisei> does anybody has an idea what's wrong?
[13:17:30] <moisei> hello??
[13:17:59] <misc> no
[13:20:34] <Blackhex> you have installed plugin which provides wiki module, you have to disable original wiki module
[13:20:34] <mitsuhiko> moisei: 0.10-dev?
[13:20:52] <pacopablo> coderanger_: nope, can't get to trac-hacks via https either
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[13:34:22] <moisei> mitsuhiko - nope. 0.93 release
[13:34:51] <moisei> pacopablo - how do i do that?
[13:35:25] <moisei> Blackhex - how do i do that?
[13:37:34] <Blackhex> in trac.ini in [components] section you have to set trac.wiki.web_ui.wikimodule = disabled
[13:37:47] <Blackhex> I hope that I wrote you right module name
[13:38:40] <coderanger_> trac.wiki.web_ui
[13:39:59] <moisei> bahh! it works :)
[13:40:36] <moisei> THANKS
[13:41:05] <moisei> so, if you are all so smart here - i have another question
[13:41:32] <moisei> i installed the code review plugin (i think this one leaded to this duplication) and now
[13:41:51] <moisei> I would like to have a code review ticket created for each commit into my repo.
[13:42:14] <moisei> do u have an idea how can I do it?
[13:43:20] <Blackhex> nope, I have no experience with corerewiev plugin, maybe some svn server script (if it is possible) or plugin
[13:44:01] <coderanger_> post-commit-hook stuff
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[13:44:34] <moisei> coderanger - yes it must be a post-commit hook. i am just wondering whether such one already exists.
[13:45:37] <rfligg> anyone using TracNav?
[13:45:44] <rfligg> I installed it globally
[13:45:53] <rfligg> it is working great for the first page I put it on
[13:46:02] <rfligg> but now additional pages are a little screwy
[13:46:13] <rfligg> I add the CSS to my global wiki.css
[13:46:42] <rfligg> First page does not display the text TracNav menu at the top
[13:46:45] <rfligg> but all the rest do
[13:47:03] <rfligg> just wondering how 1 project could differ from others
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