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August 01, 2006

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[01:19:14] <TTT> um, are there backports of most recent trac for debian/sarge?
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[01:57:04] <klando> hello, I have a problem for login a newly created user
[01:57:30] <klando> I try to restart apache
[01:57:35] <klando> but login still fail
[01:58:08] <klando> this is a linux user, and I have add him to pemission list
[01:58:17] <klando> is there some I can have forget ?
[01:58:27] <klando> (+step)
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[02:09:18] <klando> heeeeeelp :)
[02:10:33] <cmlenz> are you using htpasswd or ?
[02:10:52] <cmlenz> if so, you'll also need to add the user to the password file, of course
[02:11:07] <klando> no
[02:11:19] <klando> I am using trac on apache 1.3
[02:11:24] <klando> it is a linux
[02:11:35] <klando> I thought linux users are ok ?
[02:11:45] <cmlenz> erm, no
[02:11:57] <cmlenz> you would need something like mod_auth_shadow
[02:12:14] <klando> I already have trac up and working using lot of users
[02:12:30] <klando> trac conf is ok
[02:12:52] <klando> step I use :
[02:13:03] <klando> useradd xxx --group yyy
[02:13:14] <klando> trac-admin prermision add xx developer
[02:13:16] <cmlenz> one thing you need to realiize is that trac does't even do the login itself... apache does that
[02:13:27] <klando> yes
[02:13:34] <klando> that why I restart apache
[02:13:38] <klando> hum ok
[02:13:47] <klando> well I look more on apapche way
[02:14:57] <klando> okay :/ I am confuse
[02:15:05] <klando> thank you cmlenz
[02:15:39] <klando> I though it was directly manage using standard users acounting
[02:16:04] <klando> not via apache,... perhaps add a 'tip' on TracPermission' ?
[02:16:16] <klando> (I mean the wiki on edgewall
[02:16:49] <cmlenz> yeah
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[04:09:52] <truls> hiya
[04:11:11] <truls> i was playing around with putting mathml into a wiki-page
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[04:11:21] <truls> (browser-rendered)
[04:11:28] <truls> but couldn't get it to show properly
[04:12:24] <truls> stuffing the code into a pastebin now
[04:13:14] <truls> http://pastebin.ca/109919
[04:13:25] <truls> it seems all the mathml-code is stripped by trac
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[04:15:43] <truls> i i prepend <h1>hey</h1> to the mathml-code, and check the htmlsourcecode of the resulting wikipage, only the <h1>hey</h1> part is passed through
[04:15:48] <truls> s/i /if /
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[05:15:00] <truls> cmlenz: you know if the htmlprocessor ( {{{#!html ... }}} ) strips code?
[05:15:11] <cmlenz> yeah it does
[05:15:18] <truls> ack..
[05:15:23] <truls> trying to get mathml trhough
[05:15:24] <truls> through
[05:15:51] <cmlenz> yeah, that won't work
[05:16:05] <truls> any way to get it to work without rewriting the processor?
[05:16:35] <truls> we really need mathml, and my boss almost threw in mediawiki to get math-markup...
[05:16:51] <truls> i just convinced him that browser-rendered mathml should cover most needs though
[05:16:52] <truls> :)
[05:17:03] <truls> so hopefully we wont' have to go that far
[05:18:42] <TTT> um, browser rendered? does IE render mathML?
[05:19:02] <truls> not IE 6 atleast
[05:19:33] <truls> IE 7 might, but as long as the useful browsers (firefox, opera) support it, that's okey
[05:21:29] <TTT> ah, i've been designing web apps for lusers for too long. For me unsupported by IE = unusable
[05:21:46] <cmlenz> you'll need to add a custom processor, but that's trivial
[05:22:07] <cmlenz> if the site is not public-facing, at least
[05:28:56] <cmlenz> truls: you know there's a LatexFormulaMacro on trac-hacks?
[05:29:39] <truls> cmlenz: nope, i'll check it, thanks. i googled for mathml, trac, but hacks keeps evading me ;)
[05:32:13] <ptman> http://www.dessci.com/en/products/mathplayer/
[05:32:24] <ptman> it you get it working, that's how you get it to show in ie
[05:32:36] <ptman> ie7 doesn't seem to support it
[05:33:38] <truls> silly ie7
[05:33:57] <ptman> truly
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[05:54:13] <truls> ack, LatexFormulaMacro requires write-permissions to ht-docs/formula...
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[05:59:05] <truls> permission problems are always frustrating
[06:00:12] <truls> /usr/share/trac/htdocs/ are now owned by www-data, apache is run as www-data, www-data can create a directory in /usr/share/trac/htdocs/, but the wiki-macro seemingly isn't able to
[06:03:16] <truls> ah... it tries to create /var/lib/trac/htdocs/formulas
[06:04:19] <truls> sorry bout venting here...
[06:08:15] <truls> what exactly does env.href.chrome('site', ...) refer to? (resolves to url /trac/chrome/site/...)
[06:09:53] <truls> is chrome the parent of individual sites when installing several tracs to one server or something?
[06:20:10] <truls> could someone confirm that the example at the bottom of http://trac.edgewall.org/wiki/WikiProcessors is lacking something?
[06:20:51] <truls> i.e. the name to address the processor? i tried naming the file mypro.py, then use #!mypro as processor, but no go
[06:21:12] <truls> so i'm starting to believe that the example isn't 0.9-compatible or lacking in some way
[06:21:24] <truls> (file placed in <tracdir>/wiki-macros)
[06:22:19] <truls> i just get:
[06:22:20] <truls> Error: Failed to load processor mypro
[06:22:21] <truls> No macro named [[mypro]] found
[06:24:39] <ptman> chrome is where instance independent stuff (like images) is kept
[06:25:03] <truls> ah
[06:25:25] <ptman> I think earlier versions of trac kept it somewhere called trac-htdocs
[06:25:27] <truls> but do i have to set it up in apache specificly? or will it map to somewhere in /usr/share/trac/htdocs?
[06:25:30] <ptman> usually /trac
[06:25:48] <ptman> it has to be set up in apache also
[06:25:51] <ptman> I think
[06:26:02] <truls> ok, i'll go with the wikiprocessor approach then
[06:26:03] <ptman> but my installation is an old 0.8 from debian stable
[06:26:08] <truls> heh
[06:26:20] <truls> as long as i can figure out how to get it working
[06:29:54] <truls> almost seems that macros/processors have been deprecated by plugins, without it actually being stated on the webpages
[06:31:05] <jerome> grmpf. Trac sends mails in base64
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[06:37:27] <truls> ok, finally got it working
[06:37:48] <truls> after checking the traclogs properly the macro couldnt find the example import
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[06:39:30] <truls> so made a raw processor, just returning the string you put in...
[06:39:51] <truls> somehow firefox wont render mathml if inside a div or something, but that's not trac-related
[06:39:56] <truls> thanks for helping folks
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[07:00:57] <coderanger_> alect: STRT
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[07:28:08] <truls> ack... can only get mathml-notation to work in firefox when files are names .xml
[07:31:06] <truls> seems content-type needs adjusting
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[07:36:25] <coderanger_> This sounds like you may need to wrap it in an <iframe>
[07:41:16] <truls> isn't that evil?
[07:45:01] <coderanger_> Yes
[07:45:12] <coderanger_> But MathML is weird
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[07:48:20] <truls> no sh..
[07:48:45] <truls> hm, i even started messing with trac.web.* files now, messing up content-types... argh
[07:48:50] <truls> maybe try again tomorrow
[07:54:19] <coderanger_> Hmm, this looks like it "should work"
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[08:26:19] <pacopablo> morning
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[08:41:57] <coderanger_> alo
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[08:51:08] <rfligg> A few questions
[08:51:23] <rfligg> anyone know how to copy a permissions structure setup in one project to another?
[08:51:48] <rfligg> Has anyone experienced problems with viewing the source tree in a project?
[08:51:55] <rfligg> I have some sources showing up and some are not
[08:52:07] <rfligg> and I have TRAC_ADMIN rights to all projects
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[09:10:01] <agnul> quick question. What should I do if I wanted to copy the "priority" values of all my tickets to the "severity" and then clear the priorities (or just reset them to some default)?
[09:10:22] <agnul> should I run some SQL or what?
[09:13:53] <pacopablo> SQl would be the ting
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[09:14:40] <agnul> oooook, is there some page on the trac-wiki with the schema? also I'm completely new to sqlite, any hints? :-)
[09:14:56] <pacopablo> sqlite trac.db
[09:14:58] <pacopablo> .tables
[09:15:06] <pacopablo> .schema ticket
[09:15:10] <rfligg> yeah, that would be nice to know
[09:15:25] <rfligg> I am trying to copy a permissions structure I setup in 1 project to another?
[09:15:42] <rfligg> is there an sqldump function for SQLite?
[09:15:47] <rfligg> I have not found one on their site
[09:15:58] <pacopablo> sqlite trac.db .dump > dumpfile
[09:16:13] <pacopablo> http://trac.edgewall.org/wiki/TracDev/DatabaseSchema
[09:17:40] <agnul> mhhh I suspetct that changing the "ticket" table will reduce the "ticket_change" entries to a mess :-\
[09:18:56] <rfligg> Thanx pacopablo
[09:21:24] <agnul> mmmm ok, think I can manage. thanks :-)
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[09:34:12] <rfligg> hm..........
[09:34:22] <rfligg> I don't seem to have an sqlite command on my system
[09:34:33] <rfligg> is there a client?
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[09:38:24] <rfligg> found it
[09:38:26] <rfligg> sqlite3
[09:40:06] <rfligg> just a thought
[09:40:12] <agnul> note to self: never do an update before thinking twice and then some more about it :-)
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[09:41:26] <rfligg> could I copy the trac.db to other projects?
[09:41:39] <rfligg> all that is stored is permissions and help files and session stuff correct?
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[09:48:05] <coderanger_> rfligg: And wiki pages, and tickets, etc etc
[09:48:38] <coderanger_> rfligg: The database contains basically everything except the actual attachment files (though there is metadata for them)
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[10:49:26] <cold> hi
[10:50:23] <cold> i found something to fix on the wbxml2-0.9.0
[10:51:00] <cold> cp -Rp doc/* /usr/local/share/doc/wbxml2-0.9.0/manual
[10:51:00] <cold> cp: ne peut �luer `doc/*': Aucun fichier ou r�rtoire de ce type
[10:51:23] <cold> cp -Rp doc/* cant work
[10:51:38] <cold> because * was not interpreted
[10:51:41] <cold> so
[10:53:48] <cold> i was obligated to creat a folder doc\* ...
[10:53:50] <cold> -_-
[10:53:54] <cold> ok
[10:53:58] <cold> ...
[10:54:12] <cold> so activ chan ^^
[10:55:59] <cold> ok i'm not on the good chan ...
[10:56:20] <coderanger_> I think you are in the wrong place ...
[10:56:32] <cold> like i said
[10:57:14] <cold> sorry for flood :(
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[11:35:39] <pacopablo> table indexes are nice
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[12:17:35] <philn> good evening
[12:19:21] <philn> i developed a small macro, it works like a charm :) But i had to embed a mini svn helper client in it, i'd like to directly use trac for that, is it easily doable? my macro is there btw: http://svn.pythonfr.org/public/pythonfr/utils/trac/rest_macro/
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[12:40:51] <Thanatermesis> how i can extract a email from a user on trac ? (is on the DB ?)
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[12:43:13] <pacopablo> Thanatermesis: check the settings table
[12:44:27] <Thanatermesis> where ? how ? well... don't worry, i have found the email of this user in a website ;) thx
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[13:40:27] <exarkun> tracd still broken, now sometimes it doesn't crash, it just wedges and never responds to any requests
[13:41:20] <pacopablo> yummy
[13:41:45] <pacopablo> what version?
[13:44:22] <exarkun> r2034
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[13:46:02] <pacopablo> that's really old
[13:46:20] <Pyretic> anyone know if it's possible to group by keywords ?
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[14:04:05] <cmlenz> anyone understand what this is about: http://trac.edgewall.org/ticket/3500 ?
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[14:19:55] <pacopablo> I'm a little baffled as to what a "backspace hack" is
[14:22:11] <idnar> is that anything like a garbage file?
[14:22:12] <idnar> ;)
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[14:24:18] <idnar> I'm afraid I have no clue what he's talking about either
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[14:37:20] <BurgerX40> hey guys, how do I add trac users? directly in the db ?
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[14:38:17] <pacopablo> BurgerX40: trac-admin /path/to/env permissions add newuser TRAC_PERM
[14:38:38] <pacopablo> but you also have to make sure they are setup in your htpasswd file, or whatever method of authentication you use
[14:38:40] <BurgerX40> pacopablo, damn i was sure I checked out the help on trac-admin ! sorry!
[14:38:57] <BurgerX40> pacopablo, ok thnx
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[14:41:08] <galis> pacopablo: remember my memory error problem...
[14:41:23] <pacopablo> vaguely
[14:41:41] <galis> put more mem in also needed to raise semaphores...
[14:42:15] <galis> (yes kernel raise) and now still get memory error as rendering to html (aparently)
[14:42:37] <pacopablo> dang
[14:42:38] <galis> changing '&' to '&amp;'
[14:43:00] <galis> funny thing is I limit to 1 byte for rendering
[14:43:16] <galis> and break the path to all the rendering env
[14:43:28] <galis> but it still gets rendered in memory
[14:44:02] <galis> *sigh* we signed up with a 3rd party ssl file sharing service
[14:44:33] <galis> but I'd like to get this squashed. to use the wiki etc
[14:44:43] <pacopablo> wasn't your problem with attaching large files?
[14:45:42] <galis> yes, over about 22Mb of 'y' the page turns blank, or with a big rtf I get the str replace mentioned above
[14:46:01] <galis> lots of memory left but memoryError
[14:46:20] <galis> I think it's semaphore again
[14:46:30] <pacopablo> and it isn't ulimt
[14:46:37] <galis> unlimited
[14:46:59] * pacopablo searches for a large file
[14:47:30] <pacopablo> you're using trunk of 0.9.x?
[14:47:34] <pacopablo> s/of/or
[14:48:11] <galis> pkgsrc (2006Q2, apache2-ssl, mod_python)
[14:48:24] <galis> leme see version
[14:49:20] <galis> trac-0.9.5 ... why does it clearsilver in memory?
[14:50:05] <galis> want the full oops?
[14:50:34] <pacopablo> yeah, but pastebin it
[14:50:43] <galis> url please..
[14:50:58] <pacopablo> @faq pastebin
[14:50:58] <evil_twin> pacopablo: "pastebin" is http://trac.pastebin.com
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[14:53:59] <galis> pastebin is pretty darn slow, my send may timeout...
[14:54:35] <pacopablo> try: http://pastebin.ca/
[14:54:48] <pacopablo> I wonder why pastebin.com has been having issues
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[14:57:50] <galis> pacopablo: ok done at http://pastebin.ca/
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[14:59:35] <galis> ...oh http://pastebin.ca/110755
[14:59:43] <pacopablo> yeah, i found it ;)
[15:01:14] <galis> context: wanted to change attachment.cs to simply say "successful!" and wiki pages to download attachments, but env does not make that possible.
[15:02:53] <pacopablo> is the error when uploading the attachment? or viewing it?
[15:03:08] <galis> when uploading
[15:03:24] <galis> (doh!)
[15:04:18] <galis> that error was with a large rtf file, with a 'y' txt file the browser goes blank, full stop.
[15:08:05] <galis> I added some debug log to http://pastebin.ca/110755
[15:09:43] <galis> technically 2 problems, practically one, I guess
[15:11:55] <galis> pacopablo: I need to step away, what do you think?
[15:12:08] <pacopablo> I think it's wierd
[15:12:14] <pacopablo> I'm trying to duplicate it
[15:12:48] <pacopablo> while trac isn't incredibly memory efficient when handling large files, I'm surprised that you're getting those errors.
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[15:14:12] <galis> maybe I should give you my templates... I don't think I broke anything... but...
[15:14:29] <pacopablo> did you only change the templates?
[15:14:51] <galis> yep, I reverted the other stuff
[15:15:12] <pacopablo> a template change shouldn't be the cause of this
[15:15:28] <pacopablo> it's happening in another part of the code
[15:15:31] <galis> btw I'm using python 24
[15:15:51] <galis> cause 23 gave me the same problem
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[15:19:51] <cbrinker> hello all
[15:19:58] <galis> pacopablo: please add comments to http://pastebin.ca/110755 I need to step away... if there is anything I can do let me know...
[15:20:11] <pacopablo> cbrinker: hello
[15:20:13] <pacopablo> galis: ok
[15:20:15] <cbrinker> I am having a bear of a time getting apache handling turned off for my trac install...
[15:20:50] <cbrinker> We are using Jrun, and no matter what directives I add to the /trac Location block I cannot get jrun to not attempt to process the file.
[15:21:51] <pacopablo> not sure what to tell you, as I have no experience with Jrun.
[15:22:21] <pacopablo> might have more luck in an apache or jrun channel
[15:23:22] <cbrinker> pacopablo: thanks
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[15:45:20] <cmlenz> http://trac.edgewall.org/browser/sandbox/markup/templates/timeline.html
[15:45:34] <cmlenz> isn't that a nice template now? :-)
[15:45:49] <cmlenz> compared to http://trac.edgewall.org/browser/trunk/templates/timeline.cs
[15:48:44] <pacopablo> yes, much nicer
[15:50:15] <pacopablo> why is it that there is always a cow-orker that really gets on my nerves?
[15:52:01] <cmlenz> heh
[15:56:38] <pacopablo> gah, screw pastebin.ca. too compilcated for me :(
[15:57:06] <pacopablo> galis: I'm not sure what to tell you, I successfully attached a Knoppix ISO to my personal trac site.
[15:57:55] <pacopablo> galis: it looks like it's not really a trac problem per se
[15:58:18] <pacopablo> galis: perhaps an apache restriction? mod_python restriction? python itself?
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[16:34:46] <chun> hi all
[16:35:17] <chun> i have a trac install, in which the permission of the attachments is set to:
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