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<krillr> |
is Trac able to handle lots of projects well? |
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<krillr> |
also, is it a standalone app or a self-contained server? (is still waiting for the trac page to load) |
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<ptman> |
krillr: it's designed for one project |
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<krillr> |
ah, it loaded |
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<krillr> |
never mind i can figure it out on my own |
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<krillr> |
ptman: ok hmm.... |
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<ptman> |
it's all in the FAQ |
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<Blackhex> |
alect is still off? |
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<alect> |
WOT |
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<Blackhex> |
alect: hi, I'd like to ask about TracTags |
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<Blackhex> |
what is href return value in TaggingSystem.name_details(self, name) good for? |
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<Blackhex> |
anyone here? |
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<alect> |
good for? |
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<Blackhex> |
where it is used |
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<alect> |
for links to the a href describing the name iirc |
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<Blackhex> |
I returned it as None but nothing changed |
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<Blackhex> |
what's iirc? |
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<alect> |
if i recall correctly |
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<alect> |
just looking now |
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<Blackhex> |
ok |
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<alect> |
it's probably used to generate links in the tag cloud |
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<alect> |
i would suspect |
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<Blackhex> |
I'll try |
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<alect> |
yes, check macros.py |
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<alect> |
home time |
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<Blackhex> |
it is only used in listtags |
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<Blackhex> |
ok, thank you then |
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<Blackhex> |
no, it isn't |
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<Blackhex> |
I searched all .py files but it is not uset anywhere (if I didn't miss something), |
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<alect> |
SUP |
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<cmlenz> |
the roundup tracker for python looks pretty nice |
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<alect> |
@on |
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<evil_twin> |
alect: Error: "on" is not a valid command. |
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<alect> |
yeah it does |
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<mitsuhiko> |
cmlenz: but i would still vote for the trac |
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<tuxipuxi> |
has anybody successfully used bugzilla2trac with trac 0.9.6? |
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<cmlenz> |
asmodai is the bugzilla2trac guru |
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<indu> |
Hi, need help in using trac in debian system |
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<indu> |
I installed trac and am able to see the trac page at http://localhost:8000/project_env |
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<indu> |
Now how to proceed further |
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<indu> |
How to access the svn repository through trac??? |
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<indu> |
Help Please |
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<indu> |
anybody there?????? |
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<felis> |
sweet, email2trac up and running on windows :) |
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<felis> |
required just a tidbit of hacking, getmail.exe and a batch script |
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<dcab> |
hi all |
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<dcab> |
where I can find javascript colorer for trac? |
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<dcab> |
{{{#!js ...}}} is very simple |
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<Getty> |
baeh installing mod_python by source is a horror 8-) |
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<Getty> |
tons of errors cause it seems that the python doesnt fit in its needs |
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<Getty> |
someone experience on this? |
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<Getty> |
http://paste.debian.net/10515 can someone tell me whats there general wrong? |
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<Blackhex__> |
http://lists.edgewall.com/archive/trac/2006-April/007763.html |
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<Getty> |
strange |
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<Getty> |
that i didnt had todo that on the other system.... |
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<Getty> |
but actually import trac works fine ;) |
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<Getty> |
totally messed up chaos now :-/ |
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<Getty> |
ok..... now the trac runs.. but the CSS isnt proper path it seems... |
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<Getty> |
what could that be? |
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<Getty> |
the banner is showed proper.. thats why i wonder why the CSS isnt loaded... |
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<Blackhex__> |
maybe TracEnv or TracUriRoot setted incorrectly |
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<Getty> |
looks fine both |
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<Blackhex__> |
or righghts of htdocs dir |
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<Getty> |
whats the proper right? |
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<Getty> |
755 its all root.root |
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<Blackhex__> |
and apache:apache ? |
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<Getty> |
i dont think its a right problem |
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<Getty> |
cause.... |
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<Getty> |
trac/chrome/common/css/wiki.css works |
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<Getty> |
but trac refers them inside the code as trac/css/wiki.css which doesnt work |
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<Blackhex__> |
so I can't help you then |
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<Getty> |
bad..... |
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<Getty> |
where is the support of you need him???? ;) SERVICE! SERVICE! |
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<Getty> |
s/of/when/ |
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<Getty> |
the service lags... impossible ;) |
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<ComcastOnline> |
Serious question - would anyone like step-by-step directions of how to install trac and subversion together on Solaris 10? |
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<Getty> |
hehehe :) have fun! :) |
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<Getty> |
hiho danbeck :) |
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<Getty> |
i dont get the point about that CSS problem, in my other trac they are referenced through chrome/common/ |
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<Getty> |
but not in this one.... |
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<asmodai> |
cmlenz: Trying to read jquery.js is scary :) |
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<cmlenz> |
which version? |
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<asmodai> |
cmlenz: latest |
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<asmodai> |
it's utterly dense :) |
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<cmlenz> |
the 1.0 alpha1 is actually rather readable |
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<asmodai> |
snippit: |
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<asmodai> |
2h-1e-2g-u":"$.1T(a,m[3],Q)","47-2g-u" |
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<asmodai> |
It's like line noise |
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<cmlenz> |
erm, that's the compressed version then ;-) |
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<asmodai> |
Yea |
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<Getty> |
noone can give me a hint on that css problem? if i may disturb you.... ;) |
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<asmodai> |
seems it only has the compressed online anymore |
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<asmodai> |
ah |
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<asmodai> |
wait |
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<asmodai> |
http://jquery.com/src/latest/sane/ |
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<cmlenz> |
http://trac.edgewall.org/browser/sandbox/jquery/htdocs/js/jquery.js |
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<asmodai> |
cmlenz: I assume when deploying you use the compressed version? |
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<cmlenz> |
not yet, but I intend to |
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<asmodai> |
*nod* |
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<asmodai> |
Just looking at jquery for some stuff I need to do |
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<ComcastOnline> |
Hey Getty... |
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<Getty> |
hey |
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<ComcastOnline> |
Are you serving the static Trac assets through mod_python? |
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<Getty> |
yes |
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<Getty> |
but that is not the problem |
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<Getty> |
the problem is that trac references inside the HTML to: "/trac/css/wiki.css" |
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<asmodai> |
cmlenz: according to the tourist information in Rotterdam about 20% of the question they get every day (of the 200 or so) about where the old part of the city is located, a large part of those asking this question are Germans, which is double ironic/painful since they bombed the shit out of it at the start of WWII |
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<Getty> |
but any other trac i saw in the world (my other 2 and the official trac) uses "chrome/common/css/wiki.css" which actually also works |
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<cmlenz> |
heh |
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<asmodai> |
cmlenz: I live/work close to/in Rotterdam ^^ |
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<ComcastOnline> |
Hmmm... When I set mine up, I used FastCGI - but I wrote some httpd.conf lines to serve the static stuff without invoking the python interpreter |
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<Getty> |
then totally different world |
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<Getty> |
do you also felt so ignored? ;) |
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<ComcastOnline> |
Maybe not. Any reason why yours is serving from /trac/css instead of through the chrome directory? |
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<felis> |
is it possible to make trac ignore case for permissions? |
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<Getty> |
comcastonline: no idea, the logo is displayed properly, thats the funny part |
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<felis> |
this windows crap is of course case insensitive :( |
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<ComcastOnline> |
Getty - and yeah - No offence to anyone that has helped people here before, but I think this IRC channel is next to useless. |
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<Getty> |
ComcastOnline: i also had good help here before, but it seems that there was too big run so the right guys doesnt look into anymore ;) |
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<ComcastOnline> |
Getty: Which ver of Trac and apache? |
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<Getty> |
0.9.6 |
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<Getty> |
do you think apache is the whore that makes the mistake? |
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<Getty> |
i mean trac defines the css url, so i guess the problem is only there, whatever is "some" apache2, somehow new |
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<ComcastOnline> |
Maybe - don't know unless I see your trac location declaration in the httpd.conf file. |
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<Getty> |
no problem i show you |
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<ComcastOnline> |
You can email it to me at john_ogrady@cable.comcast.com |
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<Getty> |
i like paste services ;) http://paste.debian.net/10522 |
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<ComcastOnline> |
Getty: By and by - are you using Apache 2.0.x or 2.2? |
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<Getty> |
2.0.58 |
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<ComcastOnline> |
Getty: Versions sound good anyway.. |
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<ComcastOnline> |
Getty: Are you setting up for a single trac project, or a trac parent group? |
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<Getty> |
aehm |
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<Getty> |
at the moment its single |
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<Getty> |
i would say |
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<Getty> |
:) |
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<ComcastOnline> |
Getty: Still looking - strange that all your css isn't sourcing from /chrome/common - might be the way you set it up with mod_python |
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<Getty> |
very strange i would say.... :-( |
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<Getty> |
i mean i must say, that i had used the debian package, removed all files and used the trac distri directly |
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<Getty> |
but that worked 2 times before very fine :) my other tracs are running so fine |
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<ComcastOnline> |
Getty: Probably better to actually use the current development trunk. There are some issues with 0.9.6... |
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<Getty> |
hmpf.... |
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<Getty> |
really?.... |
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<ComcastOnline> |
Getty: yeah - posted one I was having yesterday and no one answered. :) |
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<tuxipuxi> |
asmodai: you there? |
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<ComcastOnline> |
Getty: I don't see anything in the Location tag that would serve css differently... I'm looking at the mod_python angle |
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<asmodai> |
tuxipuxi: Think so |
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<ComcastOnline> |
Getty: ... but the Trac edgewall server is crawling today |
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<Getty> |
you are very good at trac, could that be? ;) |
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<ComcastOnline> |
Getty: Interesting - Edgewall's server seems to be broken. |
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<Getty> |
i go smoke one cigarette |
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<asmodai> |
w 16 |
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<Getty> |
and then you gimme a plan ;) |
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<ComcastOnline> |
Getty: I'm ok - I just wrote up step-by-step on how to install Trac with Subversion on Solaris 10 |
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<ComcastOnline> |
Getty: But I use FastCGI in my installations - avoids a lot of problems with mod_python |
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<ComcastOnline> |
Getty: Have you tried getting rid of the TracUriRoot directive in your Location entry in httpd.conf? |
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<ComcastOnline> |
Getty: Also make sure that your trac directory isn't under apache's htdocs directory, and isn't pointed to by any other Location or Directory entries. |
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<jborg> |
cmlenz, I just tried to use the same mod_python interpreter for m.e.o and t.e.o and it seems like that solved the problem, but I'm not sure why or if it has any side effects |
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<ComcastOnline> |
Getty: And no mod-rewrites either... |
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<ComcastOnline> |
Getty: See? A lot of the questions on here are for mod_python - No one seems to have a prob with FastCGI |
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<cmlenz> |
jborg: so we were previously using PyInterpPerDirective? |
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<coderanger_> |
Getty: Do you have htdocs_location set in trac.ini? |
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<Getty> |
coderanger_: aehm no probably, wait i check |
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<ComcastOnline> |
Ooo... didn't think of that one... |
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<jborg> |
cmlenz, it wasn't specified at all, but I believe the default value is per virtual host |
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<Getty> |
coderanger_: /trac/ |
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<Getty> |
coderanger_: should be /trac/chrome/common/ then? |
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<coderanger_> |
Getty: Just remove the line |
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<Getty> |
Wonderful! |
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<ComcastOnline> |
Getty: That's what I have in mine too - you don't need the line |
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<Getty> |
thx master :) |
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<Getty> |
ComcastOnline: but you also tried your best ;) |
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<ComcastOnline> |
Getty: No worries - I'll get the next one.. |
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<Getty> |
hehe :) |
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<Getty> |
lol |
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<Getty> |
page not modified is an error... very funny ;) |
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<Getty> |
introduced trac to the company |
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<Getty> |
another one tracinized ;) |
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<felis> |
;) |
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<felis> |
i'm tracalizing my new company these days |
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<felis> |
the downside is that I have to run it on Windows, but it works fine there as well |
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<Getty> |
iiieeehhhh |
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<ComcastOnline> |
We just finished testing out running trac on Solaris 10 with subversion - we're putting together a centralised project server and Trac is the first pm software to be approved on it.. |
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<ComcastOnline> |
So count Comcast in too... |
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<coderanger_> |
We use it at my main job (RPI Computer Helpdesk) |
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<coderanger_> |
And will be using it at my other job when we get internet access |
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<Getty> |
there is a ini value for the logo of the trac, or? |
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<Getty> |
ah stupid, got it |
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<Getty> |
but trac could really make a list of companies using trac ;) |
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<coderanger_> |
TracUsers |
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<coderanger_> |
;-) |
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<Getty> |
wonderful |
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<Getty> |
our company is in :) |
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<ikonia> |
hello trac users |
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<coderanger_> |
Hi |
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<ikonia> |
could someone explain what the /path/to/trac_project_env is a variable for when doing a trac-admin initenv |
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<ikonia> |
is that the path to the svn repo ? |
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<ikonia> |
the path to where trac will store project data? |
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<ikonia> |
etc |
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<ikonia> |
its not clear to me |
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<ikonia> |
I'm using the trac install guide from the initd.org site |
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<pacopablo> |
ikonia: it's the path to where the trac data will be stored |
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<pacopablo> |
it creates a directory structure that contains the trac.db, trac.conf, logs, plugins, templates, etc. |
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<ikonia> |
pacopablo thanks |
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<pacopablo> |
np |
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<Zodiac7> |
hey pacopablo |
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<Zodiac7> |
you know that slowness with tracd |
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<Zodiac7> |
it turned out to be this |
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<Zodiac7> |
http://trac.edgewall.org/ticket/3481 |
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<Zodiac7> |
the 'hack' fixed it |
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<pacopablo> |
Zodiac7: you can't fix your DNS? |
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<Zodiac7> |
i dunno how to fix it |
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<Zodiac7> |
what am I supposed to do? |
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<Zodiac7> |
pacopablo |
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<Zodiac7> |
the network admin said he could fix it |
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<Zodiac7> |
but gimme a hint |
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<pacopablo> |
it's probably reverse DNS |
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<Zodiac7> |
yep |
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<pacopablo> |
such that IP 1.2.3.4 needs to resolve to bob.domain.com |
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<pacopablo> |
or whatever |
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<Zodiac7> |
yes |
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<Zodiac7> |
so why would it be slow? |
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<pacopablo> |
the real question is it even setup? |
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<Zodiac7> |
so this can be setup with ease in a windows environment, right? |
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<Zodiac7> |
we do have a dns server |
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<pacopablo> |
what kind of environment? windows domain? |
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<Zodiac7> |
yes, windows domain |
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<pacopablo> |
then yes, it should be easy |
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<pacopablo> |
infact, it should probably alrady be setup, but you'd have to double check |
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<Zodiac7> |
ok, so i got to just tell my admin to setup reverse dns |
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<Zodiac7> |
or continue to use the hack |
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<pacopablo> |
I'd ask if reverse DNS is setup, and if he says yes, then continue to use the hack |
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<Zodiac7> |
by the way do newer versions of trac have an configurable option to turn off these reverse lookups? |
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<Zodiac7> |
i'm using 0.94 |
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<pacopablo> |
probably not, as I believe it is a "feature" of the python http server |
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<Zodiac7> |
i meant through the trac.ini file |
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<Zodiac7> |
hmm |
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<Zodiac7> |
ok |
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<De_mon> |
windows DNS admins are more likely not to setup it up than a linux admin |
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<pacopablo> |
true, but if you're in an AD domain, it should be setup automatically when the computer is joined to said domain |
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<pacopablo> |
given the DNS server is integrated with the AD domain, of course |
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<shawn> |
I'm running trac 0.9.6 with the new fields patch (for integers for time tracking hours) in order to install the ScrumBurndownPlugin http://trac-hacks.org/wiki/ScrumBurndownPlugin so I've installed it but the step where trac-admin /your/trac/instance upgrade is supposed to create a burndown table never happens |
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<shawn> |
it says your database doesn't need to be upgraded |
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<shawn> |
so then I never get the burndown table and never see the plugin work, etc |
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<pacopablo> |
are you sure the plugin is loading? |
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<shawn> |
no I don't think it is |
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<pacopablo> |
@faq logging |
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<evil_twin> |
pacopablo: "logging" is http://projects.edgewall.com/trac/wiki/TracLogging <-- Enable debug logging to file, ensure your environments log/ directory is writeable by your web server user, check for errors. |
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<shawn> |
yeah I enabled loggin |
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<pacopablo> |
what do you see in the log? |
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<pacopablo> |
anything saying the scrumburndown plugin is loading? |
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<shawn> |
I see webadmin and tracgantt plugins load, but no sign of this burndown plugin |
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<shawn> |
it's in the plugin dir tho |
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<shawn> |
jsut like the other two eggs |
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<pacopablo> |
is it acutally an egg? |
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<pacopablo> |
or html? |
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<shawn> |
I unzipped it to be sure |
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<shawn> |
but I think the egg might be out of date compared to last changes from repo |
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<shawn> |
so if I want to just put it in site-packages or whatever the by-hand installation process is for a plugin, where do I put the templates and css files from the egg? |
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<shawn> |
in the trac/templates etc or in /site-packages/burndown/templates ? |
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<pacopablo> |
either *should* work |
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<pacopablo> |
thoug you're probably safer with trac/templates |
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<shawn> |
ok l'll try a checkout and by-hand |
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<pacopablo> |
if you install it to site-packages, make sure you enable it in your trac.ini |
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<pacopablo> |
and you may just want to try a checkout and then a python bdist_egg |
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<pacopablo> |
and then copy the egg manually to the plugins dir of your trac project |
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<shawn> |
I don't see any setup.py in this thing |
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<pacopablo> |
um ,it should be there someplace |
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<pacopablo> |
it's in the root |
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<pacopablo> |
http://trac-hacks.org/browser/scrumburndownplugin |
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<shawn> |
well making the egg from head and putting that in plugins worked |
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<shawn> |
I had to upgrade the db as noted |
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<shawn> |
now it just fails when clicking on the tab with a burndown_length = len(component_data[component_data.keys()[0] ]) len() of unsized object error |
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<shawn> |
but at least this is progress |
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<shawn> |
thanks for the help |
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<pacopablo> |
np |
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<Jack9> |
I know I'm missing something simple ([Errno 2] No such file or directory: '/var/svn/tracenv/attachments/VERSION') ? |
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<pacopablo> |
your TRAC_ENV variable is wrong |
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<Jack9> |
in httpd.conf? |
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<pacopablo> |
yes |
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<pacopablo> |
or if specifying the path to the environment on the command line |
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<Mohjive> |
hello |
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<pacopablo> |
jello |
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<Mohjive> |
just wanted to give feedback on an issue I found just installing trac |
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<pacopablo> |
fire away |
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<Mohjive> |
it's about trac using sqlite and not beeing able to coope with php5 |
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