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August 11, 2006

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[00:55:02] <timofey> I use Trac 0.9.6, apache 2.0.58 under Win2003, python 2.3, sqlite, svn 1.3.2
[00:55:43] <timofey> After installing Trac it doesn't work with TimeLine. 35 point from the TracOnWindows did not help me.
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[00:57:56] <timofey> What should I do?
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[01:22:33] <timofey> I look trough the site. But nothing helps me.
[01:23:03] <timofey> I tried every solution was provided. Theese dll's are now at every place of my drive. =) It did not help
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[05:13:10] <uber`xxiiv> Blackhex, you awake ?¿
[05:13:30] <Blackhex> uber`xxiiv: yes but going out, something quick
[05:13:34] <Blackhex> ?
[05:13:58] <uber`xxiiv> anyting new on the plugin ?¿
[05:14:10] <uber`xxiiv> i did a update and still the same
[05:14:35] <Blackhex> I couldn't subscribe to trac-dev mailing list so I can't ask where is problem
[05:14:39] <uber`xxiiv> whats odd is before we messed with the bloody image problem the upload worked
[05:14:58] <uber`xxiiv> couldnt ?¿ why ?¿
[05:15:21] <Blackhex> uber`xxiiv: there will be some stupid mistake I make some test today later
[05:15:30] <uber`xxiiv> heh
[05:15:45] <Blackhex> I didn't recieve validation mail
[05:15:54] <uber`xxiiv> btw i got trac running on LightTPD and damn if it flies
[05:16:11] <Blackhex> uber`xxiiv: works?
[05:16:19] <uber`xxiiv> fastest i have it seen it run
[05:16:27] <Blackhex> ok
[05:16:37] <uber`xxiiv> no not your plugin but trac flies with LightTPD
[05:17:18] <uber`xxiiv> it makes apache and tracd look like snails
[05:18:12] <Blackhex> ok bye for now
[05:18:37] <uber`xxiiv> later -- ill look at the code this morning for a bit and see if i can figure out what we screwed up
[05:19:20] <Blackhex> I'll make a new template with simple form to distinguish if problem is in template or code
[05:20:20] <uber`xxiiv> ok
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[06:25:56] <Blackhex> coderanger: problem is somewhere in template
[06:28:18] <coderanger_> hmm?
[06:28:43] <Blackhex> problem with ScreenshotsPlugin
[06:30:21] <coderanger_> yeah, im just not sure where
[06:32:31] <Blackhex> I'm starting from empty template now and appending parts
[06:32:34] <Blackhex> of old one
[06:34:51] <coderanger_> Heh
[06:35:18] <coderanger_> Maybe some bad <form> tags somewhere?
[06:36:38] <Blackhex> I was checking that already
[06:38:43] <Blackhex> I've found it
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[06:39:56] <Blackhex> If form has action property setted to /screenshots it don't work if there is no action property it works
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[06:45:43] <Blackhex> actually with leading slash it works
[06:46:15] <Blackhex> so with action="/screenshots/" it works but with action="/screenshots" don't
[06:46:26] <coderanger_> Odd
[06:46:36] <coderanger_> Time to break out the LiveHTTPHeaders ;-)
[06:46:50] <Blackhex> isn't that a bug?
[06:47:24] <coderanger_> Yes, but the question is where
[06:47:45] <coderanger_> Browser, Trac, Apache, etc etc
[06:48:36] <Blackhex> I think that Trac cause it does wiht 0.9 mod_python but not tracd and 0.10 everywhere
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[06:51:38] <Blackhex> anyway it works so thank you for consultation
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[07:27:23] <jazzman> i ran an upgrade, .9.6 to .10dev. I don't have an htdocs dir now. Should I just copy it from the install tree?
[07:28:14] <jazzman> and is there anything else that the upgrade command doesn't do that I would need to do manually?
[07:29:20] <De_mon> can I set ticket defaults based on the username?
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[07:30:06] <De_mon> jazzman htdocs was there after I update...
[07:30:56] <jazzman> i followed the UPGRADE instructions and deleted various folders under share/trac before running the upgrade
[07:31:14] <jazzman> the manual copy seemed to work though
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[07:35:17] <jazzman> i see for milestone .10 that there are 15 active tickets and 268 closed tickets. Is .10 getting close to being complete?
[07:35:37] <cmlenz> yes
[07:35:49] <cmlenz> but no specific eta yet
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[07:37:58] <jazzman> what are the stages once it is ready.. are there alpha/beta stages?
[07:38:13] <jazzman> or just "released"
[07:39:32] <coderanger_> cmlenz: *cough*0.10b1*cough*
[07:39:51] <cmlenz> probably one beta
[07:39:56] <cmlenz> maybe a RC
[07:40:04] <cmlenz> depends on how well the beta goes
[07:40:21] <cmlenz> but lots of people are already using 0.10 in production, so I expect it'll go well
[07:42:36] <jazzman> good to know that .10 is in production use.. I'm really excited about trac and .10 seems to have fixed the svn issues I was having.
[07:43:58] <jazzman> i may have missed this in the docs.. is there a way to clear out all the trac documents that come with an installation
[07:44:30] <coderanger_> jazzman: No, and you probably shouldn't
[07:44:41] <jazzman> that was my next question
[07:44:42] <jazzman> thanks
[07:45:08] <jazzman> wasn't sure if they were intended as just samples
[07:45:11] <coderanger_> The internal docs are very useful at times, like teaching people wiki markup
[07:45:55] <jazzman> definitely
[07:46:51] <cmlenz> they're also linked to from the UI in many places, as contextual help, so to say
[07:47:59] <coderanger_> Those are easy to hide though
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[08:22:42] <cedricOB> is it possible to change lot of ticket from one type to another ?
[08:23:13] <coderanger_> Not from the web
[08:23:13] <cedricOB> (afeter major change in the project, we want to move all tickets to OLD )
[08:23:23] <cedricOB> yes i am in tra-admin as well
[08:23:26] <coderanger_> A quick python script can do it
[08:23:50] <cedricOB> :/ huhuh since I install trac I say myself : 'cedric start python hack...'
[08:24:04] <cedricOB> I do not know very well python
[08:24:11] <cedricOB> I will lok at trac-hack perhaps
[08:24:14] <cedricOB> +o
[08:24:25] <coderanger_> There isn't anything on there to do that
[08:24:30] <cedricOB> oki
[08:24:40] <coderanger_> diveintopython.org
[08:24:50] <cedricOB> :)
[08:25:49] <cedricOB> interesting
[08:26:04] <cedricOB> if i solved
[08:26:10] <cedricOB> is there a place to post the script ?
[08:26:56] <coderanger_> trac-hacks probably, but its pretty trivial
[08:27:36] <cedricOB> ok
[08:27:50] <cedricOB> and I am going to do that directly into sqlite I think
[08:28:13] <coderanger_> That will be much harder
[08:28:18] <cedricOB> really ?
[08:28:28] <cedricOB> schema seems simple
[08:29:04] <coderanger_> one sec
[08:33:08] <cedricOB> quit easy
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[08:33:16] <cedricOB> update ticket set type = 'xxx';
[08:33:30] <coderanger_> That won't be reflected in the ticket change tables
[08:33:38] <cedricOB> (after trac-admin add type for sure!)
[08:33:45] <cedricOB> oh !
[08:34:10] <cedricOB> oops oops oops ((i had backup just before ;) )
[08:34:49] <cedricOB> what is it for this table ?
[08:35:22] <lisppaste5> coderanger pasted "Retype tickets" at http://paste.lisp.org/display/23980
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[08:35:30] <coderanger_> Use that
[08:35:59] <cedricOB> okay !
[08:36:04] <coderanger_> Give or take that I wrote it in 5 minutes, it should work
[08:36:05] <cedricOB> thank a lot coderanger
[08:36:29] <coderanger_> If nothing else its a base
[08:38:45] <coderanger_> Any devs afoot?
[08:44:29] <cedricOB> hum ... i must use your paste as a plugin ?
[08:44:45] <cedricOB> sorry, but how to use it ?
[08:45:01] <cedricOB> oops
[08:45:04] <cedricOB> forget
[08:45:14] <cedricOB> sys.argv[1:4] --> it is so clear
[08:46:09] <cedricOB> env_path --> I assume this is the trac project env .
[08:46:34] <coderanger_> yes
[08:47:12] <cedricOB> AttributeError: 'FakeReq' object has no attribute 'cursor'
[08:47:35] <cedricOB> you want my output on a pastebin ?
[08:48:31] <lisppaste5> cedricOB annotated #23980 with "first pass" at http://paste.lisp.org/display/23980#1
[08:48:44] <coderanger_> What version are you using?
[08:49:10] <cedricOB> 0.9.4-2
[08:49:11] <cedricOB> debian
[08:49:23] <coderanger_> Ahh, thatl do it
[08:49:43] <cmlenz> req.cursor?
[08:49:49] <cedricOB> yep
[08:50:03] <cedricOB> heu non sorry
[08:50:15] <coderanger_> cmlenz: The req param was only added in 0.10
[08:50:20] <lisppaste5> coderanger annotated #23980 with "0.9 version" at http://paste.lisp.org/display/23980#2
[08:52:42] <cedricOB> AttributeError: 'trac.env.Environment' object has no attribute 'href'
[08:53:32] <cedricOB> oops I was wrong on the diff
[08:54:18] <lisppaste5> klando annotated #23980 with "second pass" at http://paste.lisp.org/display/23980#3
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[09:01:33] <coderanger_> hmm
[09:02:04] <lisppaste5> coderanger annotated #23980 with "try this again" at http://paste.lisp.org/display/23980#4
[09:03:36] <cedricOB> no error
[09:04:04] <cedricOB> it seems that it works perfectly
[09:04:11] <cedricOB> thank you coderanger
[09:04:35] <cedricOB> You have add a new feature to trac in less than one hour
[09:04:47] <cedricOB> :p
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[09:05:25] <coderanger_> Like I said, the script is pretty trivial
[09:05:34] <cedricOB> sure
[09:05:54] <cedricOB> but it works fine, i haven't try whith wrong path, type etc...
[09:06:27] <cedricOB> have a good week-end
[09:06:31] <coderanger_> Making a good bulk ticket editor is an open request on trac-hacks, but it will be hard to make a good GUI
[09:06:48] <cedricOB> GUI is every time the s....g thing
[09:07:13] <cedricOB> trac-admin is a good first step
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[09:11:20] <coderanger_> A bulk editor CLI tool would be even harder
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[09:28:24] <pacopablo> morning
[09:29:51] <coderanger_> Alo
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[09:42:17] <woody22> Was wondering how you do user management (add/delete) users in trac?
[09:42:59] <coderanger_> woody22: You don't
[09:43:10] <coderanger_> Trac has no concept of users on its own
[09:43:13] <woody22> Ok. How do you setup passwords for users
[09:43:25] <coderanger_> It relies on the server to handle authentication
[09:43:29] <woody22> k
[09:43:41] <coderanger_> You can look at some plugins on trac-hacks that provide internal management htough
[09:43:46] <woody22> So if there is an account fo the user on the server then the user will be able to login?
[09:43:54] <coderanger_> AccountManager/DbAuth for example
[09:44:04] <coderanger_> woody22: It depends on how your webserver is setup
[09:45:06] <woody22> ah. I set it up to use AuthType Basic and then have a password file that I'm using from another instance of trac that was setup
[09:45:48] <woody22> I'm not 100% sure how he generated the passwords in the file because they are encrypted
[09:46:05] <coderanger_> the htpasswd tool that comes with Apache
[09:48:05] <woody22> Very Nice! Thanks coderanger!!
[09:48:38] <woody22> =)
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[10:12:46] <matt_good> woody22: I recently added an admin portion to the AccountManager plugin, so you may want to check it out
[10:13:04] <matt_good> although the admin page is only implemented in the plugin for Trac 0.10
[10:14:40] <coderanger_> matt_good: Question for you
[10:14:59] <coderanger_> Why isnt IAuthenticator done as an OrderExtensionsOption
[10:16:09] <cmlenz> it was added before there OEO existed
[10:16:09] <coderanger_> it seems like "auth = AcctmgrLoginModule" would be easier than having people disable LoginModule
[10:16:37] <coderanger_> cmlenz: Is there a reason not to change it? ;-)
[10:16:46] <cmlenz> not really
[10:17:10] <cmlenz> we should give you commit access already ;-)
[10:17:33] <coderanger_> Bah, then I would have to actually fix things
[10:17:37] <pacopablo> lol
[10:17:39] <cmlenz> hehe
[10:17:41] <coderanger_> Its much more fun to just complain :)
[10:18:52] <pacopablo> but then we'll have, what, 2 devs that live in the US?
[10:19:00] <pacopablo> so I won't have to stay up late to complain :)
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[10:19:38] <coderanger_> Just convince Alec to move back the SF, then he'll even be in the same timezone
[10:21:14] <matt_good> coderanger_: well, simply changing the IAuthenticator doesn't address the fact that the default LoginModule still catches requests for /login
[10:22:17] <coderanger_> matt_good: That could be fixed by making a single RequestHandler that passes through to the Authenticator(s) somehow
[10:23:01] <coderanger_> Maybe just pass the request on to the first component in the list
[10:27:57] <coderanger_> Its an API change so its probably better left until post-0.10, but just something to stew over :)
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[10:41:40] <matt_good> coderanger_: I wonder if I could just make the AcctMgr login module preprocess requests for "/login" to make sure it overrides the default module
[10:42:10] <pacopablo> I can't think of a good way
[10:42:20] <pacopablo> without modifying trunk, the is
[10:42:31] <pacopablo> I'd love to have the ability to preprocess requests
[10:42:42] <matt_good> such as IRequestFilter?
[10:42:46] <pacopablo> would make SecSession possible
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[10:42:51] <coderanger_> matt_good: You could do it in a filter
[10:43:00] <pacopablo> hmm, maybe, wonder when that got addaed
[10:43:10] <coderanger_> matt_good: If path_info matches, just change the handler
[10:43:17] * pacopablo hasn't been following too closely
[10:43:38] <matt_good> pacopablo: it's new for 0.10, it's been in for a little while, but I haven't used it yet
[10:44:47] <coderanger_> Its shiny
[10:44:53] <coderanger_> Good for doing very evil things
[10:45:04] <pacopablo> yeah, looks promissing.
[10:45:10] <pacopablo> I'll have to update SecSession
[10:46:00] <coderanger_> matt_good: In general the login system needs some work
[10:47:10] <pacopablo> matt_good: have any suggestions on #3506
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[11:01:19] <De_mon> coderanger_ simpleTicketPlugin ini settings arn't visible using iniAdminPlugin. which plugin whould need to be fixed?
[11:02:29] <De_mon> I'm guessing simpleTicketPlugin needs to support iniAdminPlugin...
[11:02:54] <coderanger_> SimpleTicket was written for 0.9, which doesn't use the new config API
[11:06:36] <coderanger_> Its a pretty trivial fix, I'll look at it later
[11:10:19] <De_mon> ah, cool.
[11:10:31] * De_mon looked & didn't see how to fix it
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[11:15:12] <coderanger_> De_mon: SimpleTicket uses the old self.config.get() system
[11:15:22] <coderanger_> Instead of hte trac.config.* descriptor classes
[11:15:57] <pacopablo> can XMLRPC return a tuple?
[11:23:53] <matt_good> pacopablo: I think any standard Python data structure is ok, though I don't know if a tuple would be encoded differently than a list
[11:24:14] <matt_good> pacopablo: re #3506, I think I'll still try to get that in for 0.10
[11:24:42] <pacopablo> matt_good: any suggestions on fixing it up?
[11:25:04] <pacopablo> right now, one must use *,passwd.realm for auth when using --serve-root
[11:25:59] <pacopablo> it's a bit more intuitive to use project,passwd,realm but it's also much harder to actually figure out what the project name is
[11:25:59] <matt_good> hmm, I haven't really had a chance to check on that
[11:26:02] <pacopablo> k
[11:26:16] <pacopablo> it's a working dirty hack
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[11:26:27] <pacopablo> a good pair of eyes would be greatly appreciated
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[11:38:15] <pacopablo> hmm, is there any way to give a method declared outside a class and then attched to the class, access to the the class's self object?
[11:38:39] <pacopablo> ie: def foo(self, s): print self.boo
[11:38:49] <pacopablo> obj.f = foo
[11:38:57] <pacopablo> and then obj.f(s)
[11:38:59] <pacopablo> ???
[11:39:11] <pacopablo> the above doesn't work, btw
[11:39:52] <pacopablo> guess I'll just have to pass self
[11:42:37] <coderanger_> Not sure I know what you are asking
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[11:44:33] <Royal-team> Genre il y a personne qui parle ...
[11:45:28] <pacopablo> coderanger_: inside an object, I want to access a member function that doesn't get added until runtime
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[11:45:47] <pacopablo> and said member function is declared outside the original class definition
[11:45:54] <Royal-team> Ouais
[11:45:58] <Royal-team> Je suis d'accord
[11:46:15] <pacopablo> any french speakers around?
[11:46:17] <coderanger_> Royal-team: There are a few
[11:46:31] <Royal-team> Ouais i'am french :)
[11:46:46] <pacopablo> Royal-team: I noticed
[11:47:03] <pacopablo> hence my question, because I can't read french
[11:47:26] <Royal-team> I'am french ?!
[11:47:55] <pacopablo> nm, forget I'm even herre
[11:48:25] <Royal-team> OUAIS BIEN JE COMPREND RIEN
[11:48:31] <exarkun> D'AC!
[11:48:52] <Royal-team> exarkun ?
[11:48:57] <Royal-team> Quoi D'ac ?
[11:49:00] <Royal-team> oO
[11:49:01] <exarkun> Je m'appelle exarkun
[11:49:09] <Royal-team> Ah !!!
[11:49:09] <exarkun> Qu'est ce que tu t'appelle?
[11:49:19] <Royal-team> Ton vrai pr�m ?
[11:49:37] <Royal-team> I'am Kevin
[11:49:40] <Royal-team> Compris ^^
[11:49:50] <exarkun> Bon jour Kevin
[11:50:02] <exarkun> Comment t'allez vous?
[11:50:11] <pacopablo> coderanger_: any ideas on my nasty problem that I should just find another way to accomplish?
[11:50:19] <Royal-team> Bonsoir exarkun , bien et vous ?
[11:50:30] <pacopablo> other than finding another way to accomplish it, that is.
[11:50:36] <Royal-team> Je vais manger je reviens
[11:50:37] <coderanger_> pacopablo: I would have to see the code I think
[11:50:50] <exarkun> comme çi comme ça
[11:50:51] <pacopablo> I'll pastebin and example
[11:50:53] <pacopablo> lisppaste5: url
[11:50:53] <lisppaste5> To use the lisppaste bot, visit http://paste.lisp.org/new/trac and enter your paste.
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[11:55:21] <lisppaste5> pacopablo pasted "nasty object stuff" at http://paste.lisp.org/display/23984
[11:55:32] <pacopablo> there you go coderanger_
[11:55:45] <pacopablo> it's obviously not functional, but should explain what I want to do
[11:56:11] <pacopablo> the more I'm thinking about it though, I'm thinking it can't be done
[11:56:33] <coderanger_> ugh, yeah
[11:56:37] <coderanger_> What you mean is this
[11:56:51] <coderanger_> hander.__class__.batch_transer = foo
[11:57:06] <coderanger_> I think anyway
[11:57:12] <pacopablo> hmm, I'll try that
[11:57:47] <coderanger_> Object functions live is in the class objects, not the instances
[11:59:04] <coderanger_> whee, I love how easy some things are in Python and Trac
[12:02:09] <pacopablo> wow, that's neat
[12:02:13] <pacopablo> nasty, but neat :)
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[12:03:44] * coderanger_ is probably too familiar with that kind of evil for his own good
[12:04:01] <pacopablo> hehe
[12:04:11] <Sebastian> Hello, where I can download "Trac 0.10dev" ???
[12:04:28] <pacopablo> svn co http://trac.edgewall.org/svn/repos/trunk
[12:04:51] <Sebastian> this url is for 0.96
[12:04:54] <Sebastian> :(
[12:04:59] <pacopablo> or, if you want a zip, go to the trunk folder in the browser, and click the link "Download as zip format"
[12:05:04] <pacopablo> Sebastian: no, it's not
[12:05:08] <Sebastian> no?
[12:05:14] <pacopablo> no, it's for trunk
[12:05:23] <Sebastian> why the ChangeLog file say 0.96 ??
[12:05:23] <pacopablo> which is currently 0.10dev
[12:05:40] <pacopablo> becaue 0.10dev hasn't been released?
[12:05:45] <Sebastian> je
[12:05:52] <pacopablo> because the ChangeLog and the subversion log are different?
[12:06:21] <pacopablo> because the devs are justifiably lazy and don't update both the ChangeLog and the subversion log on each commit?
[12:06:25] <pacopablo> just some guess
[12:06:28] <pacopablo> er, guesses
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[12:16:28] <coderanger_> trac-hacks seems slow today
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[12:17:35] <Sebastian> I have that error when i connect with the svn
[12:17:47] <Sebastian> svn: PROPFIND request failed on '/'
[12:17:55] <Sebastian> svn: PROPFIND of '/': 200 OK (http://trac.edgewall.org)
[12:18:09] <mef_> hi, I'm having a problem copying my trac system from one machine to another -- I did a hotcopy, stopped apache, copied the hotcopy into the trac directory, started apache again, and I get a "Trac detected an internal error: list.index(x): x not in list" when I try to browse the source.
[12:18:36] <mef_> It seems to be something in trac.db, because if I copy the trac.db from a new initenv trac environment, trac can connect to the repos fine
[12:18:52] <pacopablo> Sebastian: sorry: http://svn.edgewall.org/repos/trac/trunk
[12:19:11] <mef_> what exactly is trac-admin doing that's machine-specific when you execute initenv?
[12:19:25] <coderanger_> mef_: Very little
[12:19:36] <pacopablo> mef_: was there a version change in trac?
[12:19:48] <Sebastian> gracias pablo!
[12:19:49] <mef_> pacopablo, 0.9.5 to 0.9.6
[12:20:03] <coderanger_> Makes some directories and makes a new database
[12:20:08] <pacopablo> mef_: did you do a resync?
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