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<TMH_> |
righty, apparently trac is sort of working now (yay!) |
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<TMH_> |
now, about this whole "getting trac to work with fastcgi" thing, where do I get all the paths from and so on? |
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<benjk> |
hi, anybody here? |
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<e1ven> |
I am. |
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<e1ven> |
But I'm not a dev. |
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<benjk> |
I got an account on a trac based project web site and I was told I can upload stuff there, but I can't see anything in the user interface that says "upload files" or something like that, so I was wondering if anybody here knows whether this is part of the standard feature set or not |
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<e1ven> |
Attach file? |
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<s0undt3ch> |
the only think I can think of too is attach |
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<benjk> |
I can't find any button or any link thats called "attach" |
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<benjk> |
:( |
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<TMH_> |
well on the wiki pages |
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<TMH_> |
at the bottom, there are two options |
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<TMH_> |
"edit this page" or "attach file" |
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<TMH_> |
if the latter is missing it must be disabled by the administrator |
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<TMH_> |
you should email the administrator and ask for those priviledges |
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<TMH_> |
on the subject of tmh, trac is now throwing me this error: AssertionError: Authentication information not available. |
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<benjk> |
hmm, I don;t think that's the right place then |
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<benjk> |
because I don't intend to add to the wiki |
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<benjk> |
I intend to create a new branch in the svn tree and then upload files to that |
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<benjk> |
I think the wiki and the svn side are two different things |
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<TMH_> |
yes you are right |
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<TMH_> |
you must connect to the subversion tree with a subversion client |
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<benjk> |
so trac is only a viewer then? |
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<rustre> |
hiya people ;) |
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<alect> |
hi |
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<bryanl_> |
are there any advantages of using mod_fastcgi over mod_python? |
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<coderanger_> |
not really |
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<coderanger_> |
Its a matter of which you like more |
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<coderanger_> |
Though you can do funkier things with mod_python (like mod_auth_acctmgr for instance) |
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<otaku42> |
moin |
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<coderanger_> |
alo |
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<cmlenz_> |
guys, I'm reworking a about page text a bit... how's this: "Trac is a web-based software project management and bug/issue tracking system emphasizing ease of use and low ceremony. It provides an integrated Wiki, an interface to version control systems, and a number convenient ways to stay on top of events and changes within a project." ? |
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<cmlenz_> |
grammar corrections, suggestions? |
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<exarkun> |
"ceremony" is an interesting choice of word |
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<cmlenz_> |
heh, that one was already there |
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<coderanger_> |
cmlenz_: Wanna put a $Id in there? ;-) |
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<prologic> |
Can I get fine-grained permissions on wiki pages and the like ? |
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<prologic> |
PerPagePermissions ? |
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<cmlenz_> |
coderanger_: that would only get updated when the about template itself changed I think |
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<cmlenz_> |
$LastModifiedRevision$ or what that is |
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<cmlenz_> |
$Id$ includes the same rev IIRC |
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<coderanger_> |
Hmm |
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<coderanger_> |
The has gotta be a way to do the kind of tagging this needs |
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<coderanger_> |
Just so people can easily see what rev they are running |
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<cmlenz_> |
when we move to setuptools, the rev will be included in the version string of dev builds |
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<coderanger_> |
Hows that parent envinronment thing going? |
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<coderanger_> |
I keep finding places it would be handy |
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<cmlenz_> |
I'm not sure about that... what places? |
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<coderanger_> |
I run two EnvParentPath setups on different vhosts that have nothing to do with each other |
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<coderanger_> |
I would like to define setting that affect all of one vhost |
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<coderanger_> |
Like setting up the logo to be the same for all of them |
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<cmlenz_> |
right, so you need shared but not global settings/plugins/etc |
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<coderanger_> |
exactly |
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<cmlenz_> |
but that doesn't need to be a shared/parent *environment* |
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<cmlenz_> |
i.e. with DB and all |
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<coderanger_> |
well its a conf+plugins+macros |
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<coderanger_> |
just missing the d |
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<coderanger_> |
er, db |
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<coderanger_> |
may as well just add support for something like db_string=None |
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<coderanger_> |
That way you can reuse trac-admin to create them |
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<coderanger_> |
I could also see some db stuff being useful for inheriting |
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<coderanger_> |
like having shared permissions |
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<coderanger_> |
(though I am working on doing that in TracForge anyway) |
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<maxb> |
How is 0.10 progressing, and are there any bite-size tasks to volunteer for to help it along? |
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<bryanl_> |
is there a a way to move a group of tickets to a milestone? |
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<coderanger_> |
bryanl_: See the bulk edit script I posted yesterday |
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<bryanl_> |
coderanger_: what site? |
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<bryanl_> |
track-hacks? |
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<uber`xxiiv> |
maxb, im using .10 now -- its pretty stable so far |
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<coderanger_> |
bryanl_: http://paste.lisp.org/display/23980#4 |
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<coderanger_> |
Thas a good base |
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<maxb> |
uber`xxiiv: I'm more looking for official tarballs - stable though it may be, I'm not inclined to roll it out for production, for sites which don't have pressing demand for its features. |
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<uber`xxiiv> |
well i think your in a for a wait then |
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<uber`xxiiv> |
im using it for production and as i said i havent had any issues with it |
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<prologic> |
File "/usr/lib/python2.4/getpass.py", line 101, in getuser |
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<prologic> |
import pwd |
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<prologic> |
ImportError: No module named pwd |
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<prologic> |
wth ? :) |
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<prologic> |
that's never happened before :/ |
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<uber`xxiiv> |
pwd ?¿ |
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<uber`xxiiv> |
hmm |
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<uber`xxiiv> |
thats a odd one |
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<prologic> |
yeah |
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<prologic> |
I seem to have fixed it now |
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<prologic> |
but weird :) |
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<uber`xxiiv> |
i think python just had a code fart |
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<cmlenz> |
I've seen that before but can't remember where |
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<prologic> |
yeah well to fix it I had to: chmod 666 db/trac.db chmod 777 db chmdo 666 log/traclog chmod 777 attachements |
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<uber`xxiiv> |
it happens if USERNAME isnt set in the env or something odd happens |
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<prologic> |
then do a trac-admin upgrade |
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<cmlenz> |
don't you think those permissions are a bit too fine grained? :-P |
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<prologic> |
what you mean ? :) |
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<uber`xxiiv> |
Blackhex, still havent been able to fix the screenshot ?¿ |
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<Blackhex> |
do you mean form values thing? |
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<uber`xxiiv> |
well i still cant upload any new screenshots |
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<Blackhex> |
even with lastest changeset? |
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<uber`xxiiv> |
you just changed it ?¿ |
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<Blackhex> |
no a few hour you disconnected the day we spoken about it |
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<uber`xxiiv> |
# svn up |
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<uber`xxiiv> |
At revision 1126. |
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<Blackhex> |
when I told you that I try to make new clear template |
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<uber`xxiiv> |
new revision doesnt work then |
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<Blackhex> |
for me yes |
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<uber`xxiiv> |
and yes i did a upgrade |
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<Blackhex> |
with apache it shoud work now and I don't have 0.10 to test it |
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<uber`xxiiv> |
im not using apache anymore -- lighttpd is way faster |
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<Blackhex> |
I know |
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<uber`xxiiv> |
ahhh new template works |
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<uber`xxiiv> |
heh forgot to update mine since i customize it |
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<Blackhex> |
they should, don't know why but action="/screenshots" don't work and action="/screenshots/"does |
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<uber`xxiiv> |
heh |
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<uber`xxiiv> |
BTW its reduntant to have a description and a name field |
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<uber`xxiiv> |
both are the same thing |
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<Blackhex> |
not really |
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<uber`xxiiv> |
i only use the description |
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<uber`xxiiv> |
name isnt needed |
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<Blackhex> |
name is displayed abowe screenhsot and shoud be short and descripton is bellow and wider |
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<uber`xxiiv> |
its reduntant |
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<uber`xxiiv> |
not even photos have that |
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<uber`xxiiv> |
description is all that is needed |
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<Blackhex> |
I saw gallery where it does |
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<uber`xxiiv> |
then at least remove the default input if its not filled in |
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<uber`xxiiv> |
if nothing is used it should return <null> then |
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<Blackhex> |
you mean that there will be only "by somebody"? |
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<Blackhex> |
or nothing |
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<uber`xxiiv> |
you dont even need that |
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<uber`xxiiv> |
just nothing |
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<Blackhex> |
ok I'll make a config option to not display header |
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<Blackhex> |
but I'm little busy now |
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<uber`xxiiv> |
by sgrayban is really not needed -- if its uploaded by a authencated user it shouldnt be there -- trac_admin can delete it |
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<coderanger_> |
Things that are not fun, rewritting authors for an entire subversion repo |
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<pacopablo> |
ok, I just had a really evil idea |
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<Drune> |
hi guys. |
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<pacopablo> |
so I need someone to tell me why it's so beyond horrible that I shouldn't do it |
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<pacopablo> |
hey Drune |
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<coderanger_> |
pacopablo: Roger :) |
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<pacopablo> |
anyway, I've got some methods that I want to factor out into separate module |
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<Drune> |
i need a little help, but not with trac. I know that trac can use pysqlite + mod_python. right? |
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<pacopablo> |
however, they methods depend on database connection objects, that the caller will have |
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<pacopablo> |
however, I don't want to pass the connection object in each request |
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<Drune> |
i'm trying to use mod_python+pysqlite. |
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<pacopablo> |
so i was thinking that it might be possible to use inspect to get the calling object and then grab the db connection out of it |
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<pacopablo> |
so it wouldn't need to be passed. |
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<Drune> |
but i get a OperationalError: unable to open database file |
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<Drune> |
any idea? |
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<Drune> |
:( |
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<Drune> |
it's not a path problem. |
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<pacopablo> |
Drune: did you upgrade sqlite lately? |
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<pacopablo> |
and do you have mod_php installed? |
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<Drune> |
version 3 here. |
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<Drune> |
mod_python yeah. |
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<Drune> |
(i dont use trac) |
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<pacopablo> |
Drune: can you open the trac.db from the command line: sqlite3 |
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<Drune> |
i'm sorry. |
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<pacopablo> |
Drune: do you also have mod_php installed? |
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<Drune> |
i know that is the wrong channel. |
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<Drune> |
no. |
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<Drune> |
i dont need it. |
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<Drune> |
i'm not gonna use TRAC. |
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<pacopablo> |
trac doesn't use mod_php |
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<Drune> |
i just want to use mod_python+pysqlite |
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<pacopablo> |
but having both mod_php and using mod_python + pysqlite can cause version conflicts |
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<pacopablo> |
what version of pysqlite? |
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<Drune> |
not mod_php is disabled |
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<Drune> |
current/sqlite3 3.3.6-1 |
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<pacopablo> |
and can you open the database file from the command line? |
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<Drune> |
(archlinux here) |
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<Drune> |
pacopablo, all works from CLI |
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<pacopablo> |
what version of pysqlite ? |
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<Drune> |
extra/python-pysqlite 2.2.2-1 |
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<Drune> |
but it works from a CLI. Even if: python lalal.py it insert into database with sucess |
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<Drune> |
so i guess the problem is with apache and mod_python stuff |
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<pacopablo> |
sounds like it |
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<pacopablo> |
if mod_php is installed, I'd remove it |
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<pacopablo> |
and if you need it, recompile it without sqlite support |
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<Drune> |
no_maam, i hate php :P |
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<Drune> |
ops |
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<pacopablo> |
then just remove it |
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<Drune> |
i dont even have it installed |
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<pacopablo> |
k |
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<pacopablo> |
then I've got no clue and you might get more help from a mod_python channel if they have one |
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<Drune> |
it's a little bit weird this error. |
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<Drune> |
can be a permission problem for sure. |
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<Drune> |
but dont know where. |
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<coderanger_> |
pacopablo: You mean go up a stack frame? |
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<coderanger_> |
pacopablo: |
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<pacopablo> |
make sure the apache user has permissions to rw the database and also permissions for the parent directories too |
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<pacopablo> |
coderanger_: yes |
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<pacopablo> |
coderanger_: haven't tried it, so it might not be possible. however, just about everything else is possible in Python, so I figured that this might be too. |
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<coderanger_> |
its doabal |
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<coderanger_> |
I've done it before :P |
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<pacopablo> |
so, now tell me why it's such a heinous thing I should purge the thought from my mind |
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<coderanger_> |
getattr(inspect.stack()[-2][0].f_locals['self'], 'db') |
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<Drune> |
pacopablo, actually httpd is running under me (drune user) and everything is 777 on db directory :( |
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<coderanger_> |
The biggest problem is that if your caller doesn't follow the convention of the arg name "self" it will break |
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<pacopablo> |
how would the caller not? you mean: def func(obj, blah) instead of def func(self, blah) ? |
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<coderanger_> |
yeah |
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<uber`xxiiv> |
Blackhex, another nice thing you should add is if you have more then one screenshot and you want to delete 1 of them you can use a check box instead |
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<pacopablo> |
coderanger_: fair enough, that's not much of a hinderance to the developer |
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<pacopablo> |
since that's fairly standard |
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<pacopablo> |
coderanger_: but you're doing a lousy job at convincing me to give up my evil ways |
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<coderanger_> |
But I like evil :) |
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<pacopablo> |
coderanger_: you're just an enabler, aren't you? :) |
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<Blackhex> |
uber`xxiiv: I don't understant |
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<coderanger_> |
pacopablo: Its also a bad idea because it breaks the normal definition of a function |
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<coderanger_> |
so it may surprise future coders |
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<uber`xxiiv> |
if i have 3 screen shots and i want to delete the first one i have to delete the other 2 first |
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<pacopablo> |
that's what documentation is for |
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<coderanger_> |
Why not make it a member function of the object with the db? |
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<uber`xxiiv> |
it deletes in order you uploaded |
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<uber`xxiiv> |
which sucks |
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<Blackhex> |
uber`xxiiv: so that this is bug |
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<pacopablo> |
coderanger_: because it can be used from many different objects |
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<Blackhex> |
uber`xxiiv: i shoud be deleted only actual one |
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<pacopablo> |
and there isn't a really good central place to attach all functions to said objects |
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<uber`xxiiv> |
you should be able to choose the one you want to delete |
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<coderanger_> |
pacopablo: Multiple inheritance |
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<pacopablo> |
coderanger_: bah, why are you bringing a not so evil idea in here? |
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<Blackhex> |
uber`xxiiv: if you click on delete button the current (the biggest in the centere) should be deleted |
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<coderanger_> |
pacopablo: oh right |
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<coderanger_> |
umm |
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<pacopablo> |
coderanger_: that's actually a much better solution, thanks :) |
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<uber`xxiiv> |
ahhhh you dont want that |
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<coderanger_> |
dynamically transform the class object in a metaclass! |
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<coderanger_> |
You could add the function there |
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<uber`xxiiv> |
you want to use something like a check box |
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<coderanger_> |
with the added bonus that no one will ever figure out what you are doing ;-) |
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<Blackhex> |
uber`xxiiv: why checkbox? |
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<pacopablo> |
coderanger_: hehe |
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<uber`xxiiv> |
i didnt know it was the centre one that is deleted -- but still i would think to avoid issues is a check box |
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<uber`xxiiv> |
cause a check box is just common sense and easy |
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<uber`xxiiv> |
the end user knows exactly which one is getting deleted |
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<Blackhex> |
uber`xxiiv: I don't think so, there is current displayed screenshot and the other ones are only visual navigation |
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<uber`xxiiv> |
they current way is cumberson |
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<uber`xxiiv> |
its messy |
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<uber`xxiiv> |
your going to have users the same thing i suggested |
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<Blackhex> |
anyone with same opinion? |
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<uber`xxiiv> |
and as far i can see there isnt anyway to make any of the screenshots a center one to be deleted -- it looks like a roll of the dice move |
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<uber`xxiiv> |
not only would all of the shots be thumbs look better but check boxes for deleting is better |
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<uber`xxiiv> |
i have 6 shots -- its messy |
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<uber`xxiiv> |
i would rather have them all thumbs instead of one HUGE screenshot in the dab centre |
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<Blackhex> |
you can have your opinion but this kind of navigation was one of the reason why I implemented my own plugin, I can make a coice between flat and centered view If I'll have a time for that |
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<Blackhex> |
but I'm not going to remove it entirely |
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<uber`xxiiv> |
if you are making the plugin for your own personal design and not the end-user your heading in the wrong direction then |
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<uber`xxiiv> |
no one will use it if you arent open to ideas and suggestions for looks and design |
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<Blackhex> |
uber`xxiiv: you are right, but I'm one end user and you are another if there will be most for you way so I'll implement it prioritely |
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<uber`xxiiv> |
and as a developer myself i have learned that |
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<Blackhex> |
and I'm open as I suggest that there could be both ways of display |
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<uber`xxiiv> |
hmmm try my suggestion with many screenshots -- then try it the other way and tell me which one looks better |
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<uber`xxiiv> |
athestic wise having them all thumbs will look so much better |
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<Blackhex> |
uber`xxiiv: I had tested with more than 6 screenshtos and my way suits me well |
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<uber`xxiiv> |
the key word here is "you" |
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<uber`xxiiv> |
you need to forget that word |
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<uber`xxiiv> |
if your making a plugin you need to think everyone else |
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<Blackhex> |
you are going for to forget current way of display so much or why you coudn't suggest that there could be both ways together |
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<Blackhex> |
? |
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<uber`xxiiv> |
thats fine also |
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<Blackhex> |
ok, finally we ageed |
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<Blackhex> |
:-) |
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<uber`xxiiv> |
but deleting any screenshot should be a point and click check box so that the end user doesnt make the awfull mistake and delete the wrong one |
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<Blackhex> |
in flat view yes, but in center view it's obvious what screenshots is deleted (if it works right, I must try it sometime) |
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<uber`xxiiv> |
if it was obvious i wouldnt have deleted 4 screenshots |
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<uber`xxiiv> |
so you are wrong |
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<pacopablo> |
what plugin? gallery? |
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<uber`xxiiv> |
its obvious because you know how the plugin works |
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<Blackhex> |
maybe it is not working properly, I'll try it now |
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<Blackhex> |
pacopablo: Screenshots |
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<uber`xxiiv> |
Blackhex, your missing my point --- if the centre shot is the one deleted you have 2 problems --- how do you make any shot the centre one and 2 how does the end-user know this ?¿ |
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<uber`xxiiv> |
i see nothing in the delete part that remotely says this |
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<uber`xxiiv> |
your going to have idiots using this one day |
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<uber`xxiiv> |
and they will scream at you |
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<Blackhex> |
you make any screenshots center one by rolling by clicking on neightbouring ones |
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<uber`xxiiv> |
and again WHERE does it say this ?¿ |
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<uber`xxiiv> |
i see nothing that states this |
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<Blackhex> |
uber`xxiiv: there could be documentation when it will be considered as finished |
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<uber`xxiiv> |
no no --- forget docs -- idiots dont read them -- buttom of the buttons in bold |
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<uber`xxiiv> |
i cant count how many times i have answered the same questions over and over that are in my docs |
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<Blackhex> |
uber`xxiiv: if there will be flat (default view) for BFUs and center view for anyone who in not as lazy to read dosc, what is wrong with that |
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<uber`xxiiv> |
uggg forget it -- one day you will learn the way of less hassle |
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<Blackhex> |
uber`xxiiv: I know what you are trying to say but you didn't convince me entirely until you will be alone |
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<Blackhex> |
this is OS that is way how it works |
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<uber`xxiiv> |
hard headed too |
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<Blackhex> |
:-) |
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<uber`xxiiv> |
coderanger_, you need to enlighten the young padawa |
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