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August 30, 2006

[00:03:28] * otaku42_away is now known as otaku42
[00:12:46] <X-Gen> wrt custom fields, if i save a ticket and dont make any changes to the custom field, i always get an entry in the change history for that field
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[00:18:26] <otaku42> moin
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[01:11:01] <tag> man
[01:11:13] <tag> http://www.blisted.org/wiki/papers/opinions/JavaScript2.0 <-- why am I getting that error?
[01:11:39] <mitsuhiko> tag: man unicode :)
[01:12:06] <mitsuhiko> you have something in your data stream that's not valid utf-8
[01:12:22] <tag> fuck how do I fix it?
[01:13:11] <mitsuhiko> tag: i would open the database with sqlite3 and look for the JavaScript2.0 entry and update the text so that the invalid data isn't there any more :)
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[01:16:36] <tag> what I did
[01:16:45] <tag> is because I've updated the trunk several times and this shit just started happening
[01:16:48] <tag> was copy the data
[01:16:51] <tag> empty the page
[01:16:53] <tag> paste it back in
[01:16:56] <tag> submit it again
[01:17:00] <tag> now it seems to render
[01:21:12] <mitsuhiko> tag: is that correct?
[01:21:12] <mitsuhiko> def Constructor:
[01:21:13] <mitsuhiko> def __init__ (example):
[01:21:13] <mitsuhiko> if (isinstance(example, Constructor))
[01:21:13] <mitsuhiko> raise error "Invalid argument!"
[01:21:20] <mitsuhiko> shouldn't it be class Constructor?
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[01:24:34] <tag> mitsuhiko: I don't know?
[01:24:59] <mitsuhiko> classes are defined with "class" not "def" in python
[01:27:33] <tag> mitsuhiko: sure whatever
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[01:37:46] <angrymike> anyone having problems with the source browser and the workflow branch ?
[01:43:42] <Getty> is there btw anything new about the multiply project management? (having separated groups for different projects, but one combining access also)
[01:43:47] <Getty> (one or several lol ;) )
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[02:22:28] <angrymike> hi all
[02:22:45] <angrymike> something strange happened when I upgraded from 0.8.1 to 0.94 and then to 0.10 (workflow branch)
[02:22:57] <angrymike> one wiki page from 0.8.1 had a '/' on the end of it
[02:23:15] <angrymike> now if you try and go to that page in 0.10 it says it doesn't exist
[02:23:45] <angrymike> but you can sure search for it and the attachments are still inside the project dir
[02:24:05] <angrymike> is there a simple way to edit the database and remove the '/' some how ?
[02:25:21] <cmlenz> UPDATE wiki SET name='PageName' WHERE name='PageName/';
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[02:27:45] <angrymike> cmlenz: great will give it a go now
[02:28:03] <angrymike> cmlenz: would it be dangerous to change it while the project is "live" ??
[02:28:30] <cmlenz> no, but you may want to make a backup of the DB before doing any manual changes
[02:28:48] <angrymike> cmlenz: thanks will give it a go
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[02:34:06] <moolight> how much change to get plugins broken if i upgrade 0.9x to 0.10?
[02:34:10] <moolight> chance
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[07:41:05] <k0s> looking at the source for 0.9.6 vs. 0.10b1 it seems that get_environment has disappear. is there a reason for that?
[07:44:24] <coderanger> k0s: What do you mean?
[07:46:45] <k0s> in trac/web/main.py from 0.9.6 there is a function def get_environment(req, options, threaded=True):, and no such function in 0.10b1
[07:46:58] <coderanger> http://trac.edgewall.org/browser/trunk/trac/web/main.py#L417
[07:47:46] <coderanger> A lot of trac.web was changed when we moved to WSGI
[07:48:01] <k0s> that has a slightly different name and a different calling signature.
[07:48:12] <k0s> is it supposed to be the same function?
[07:48:24] <coderanger> http://trac.edgewall.org/browser/trunk/trac/web/main.py#L285
[07:48:34] <coderanger> No, that is a different function
[07:48:51] <coderanger> The code to determine which env to load is now part of the dispatch system
[07:49:01] <coderanger> Why would you ever need that for anything else?
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[07:53:12] <k0s> i'm trying to get Trac working with ZopeTrac, the latest version of which still apparently uses the 0.9.6 type interface
[07:53:24] <coderanger> zopetrac?
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[07:53:48] <coderanger> given that 0.10b1 was only released on monday, that makes sense
[07:53:57] <k0s> a frontend for Trac for the Zope webserver
[07:54:29] <k0s> i'll try the 0.9.6 release, i was just curious the reason for the change. thanks
[07:54:56] <coderanger> Just look for a WSGI frontend for Zope
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[07:55:20] <coderanger> Trac moved to use it as part of 0.10, so most of the web-frontend stuff was changed
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[08:10:23] <hpnadig> need some help with the vhost config - trac is now throwing up just index of files: http://trac.sampada.info/
[08:10:33] <hpnadig> I'm using mod_python way
[08:11:59] <coderanger> hpnadig: pastebin your apacheconfig
[08:12:03] <coderanger> lisppaste5: url
[08:12:03] <lisppaste5> To use the lisppaste bot, visit http://paste.lisp.org/new/trac and enter your paste.
[08:13:41] <lisppaste5> hpnadig pasted "Vhost configuration" at http://paste.lisp.org/display/24989
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[08:14:29] <lisppaste5> hpnadig pasted "httpd.conf entry" at http://paste.lisp.org/display/24990
[08:15:38] <coderanger> Well the url you poster was to /
[08:15:40] <coderanger> not /trac
[08:15:45] <ikonia> evening all
[08:16:06] <coderanger> hpnadig: Anything in the apache error log?
[08:16:14] <hpnadig> coderanger: no, nothing.
[08:16:21] <hpnadig> it is the old apache 1.x
[08:16:43] <coderanger> hpnadig: You cannot use Trac with mod_python on 1.3 I think
[08:16:52] <coderanger> The API is too different to support both easily
[08:17:13] <hpnadig> ok
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[08:17:26] <coderanger> hpnadig: Lemme double check that
[08:17:52] <coderanger> hpnadig: something isnt right
[08:18:09] <coderanger> hpnadig: IS this behind a mod_rewrite or a proxy?
[08:18:29] <hpnadig> coderanger: the server? no.
[08:18:55] <coderanger> hpnadig: Why do you have <Location /trac> if you want it served from / then?
[08:20:22] <hpnadig> coderanger: Let me correct that.
[08:20:38] <hpnadig> coderanger: on my local setup, the /trac for location worked fine... so :D
[08:20:55] <coderanger> well it should work, but its not your goal ;-)
[08:21:11] <ikonia> are any of you using trac against postgres ?
[08:22:39] <hpnadig> coderanger: well, I corrected it to <Location />, but its just the same
[08:22:57] <coderanger> hpnadig: Can you paste the whole vhost, not just the snippet
[08:23:05] <coderanger> its possible something is interfering
[08:24:25] <hpnadig> coderanger: well, its the same on almost two servers I tried installing trac :)
[08:24:36] <hpnadig> which have different vhost configs
[08:26:47] <lisppaste5> coderanger pasted "My mod_python config" at http://paste.lisp.org/display/24991
[08:27:12] <coderanger> maybe that will help
[08:30:31] <ikonia> oooh check it out, trac 10 can use mysql backend
[08:30:33] <ikonia> very cool
[08:31:23] <ikonia> even better than postgres, has anyone tried it against mysql yet ?
[08:32:06] <coderanger> ikonia: A few people on here have been using it
[08:32:25] <ikonia> any feedback
[08:32:35] <coderanger> seems okay
[08:32:35] <ikonia> I'm pleased that a few people have been trying it
[08:32:37] <ikonia> good good
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[08:32:49] <ikonia> makes it easier to have 1 db engine running on a box rather than 2 due to product limitations
[08:32:59] <coderanger> why not use SQLite :P
[08:33:00] <ikonia> really pleased with that
[08:33:05] <ikonia> well, that was one of my questions
[08:33:24] <ikonia> the reason I was looking at mysql = 1 db for all projects, trac/php/mail/logging etc etc
[08:33:31] <ikonia> but is there any benifit to using sqllite ?
[08:33:44] <coderanger> simplicity
[08:33:48] <coderanger> thats about it
[08:34:03] <coderanger> if you are going to be running a "big" db anyway, i would use that
[08:34:22] <ikonia> looking at the docs, it doesn't look that much more simple to setup, and if your better with mysql at db managment, than sqllite which you've never used, its seems sensible to use a product you know ?
[08:34:31] <ikonia> but I'm only talking theory - not experience with trac --> db
[08:34:52] <coderanger> if you have no idea how to setup my/pg, sqlite is much easier ;-)
[08:35:06] <cedricOB> +1
[08:35:06] <coderanger> the setup on the trac side is no different
[08:35:09] <ikonia> I've got mysql and postgress running fine
[08:35:19] <ikonia> very happy with mysql
[08:35:23] <ikonia> reasonably happy with pg
[08:35:23] <cedricOB> then sqllite will notr be a problem at all
[08:35:27] <ikonia> I have never used sqllite
[08:35:37] <ikonia> cedricOB thats good to hear
[08:35:55] <ikonia> I was only thinking about overall server managment, 1 db engine for everything
[08:36:00] <ikonia> eg: all db's held in mysql
[08:36:04] <coderanger> ikonia: I would give mysql a shot, if it doesn't work you can just do a dataswap later
[08:36:07] <ikonia> rather than different db egines for different product
[08:36:13] <ikonia> coderanger thats a good call
[08:36:19] <ikonia> thats probably where I am going to go with it
[08:36:26] <cedricOB> afaik sqlite not working like a 'real' server
[08:36:36] <ikonia> cedricOB as I've said, never used it
[08:36:43] <ikonia> not looked into it yet
[08:36:46] <ikonia> looks like a flat file format
[08:36:53] <cedricOB> like berkeley
[08:36:59] <ikonia> yes
[08:37:07] <ikonia> I should be able to grasp it
[08:37:10] <ikonia> but I'll try mysql
[08:37:18] <ikonia> then as suggested move if it sucks
[08:37:21] <cedricOB> :/ do it with pg :)
[08:37:29] <cedricOB> mysql sucks
[08:37:31] <ikonia> cedricOB any reason you suggest pg
[08:37:31] <ikonia> ?
[08:37:39] <cedricOB> transactionnal
[08:37:47] <ikonia> mysql 5 has transactions
[08:37:51] <ikonia> (not arguing just understanding)
[08:39:11] <coderanger> mysql 5 (with the correct table backend) is just as ACID as postgres
[08:39:24] <ikonia> ACID ?
[08:39:24] <cedricOB> hum afaik mysql5 is not really nice, and this mysql devs who said that
[08:39:34] <neuralis> cedricOB: define 'nice'
[08:39:42] <ikonia> I'm totally open to suggestions options
[08:39:43] <neuralis> ikonia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ACID
[08:39:48] <ikonia> just tyring to understand why
[08:39:50] <cedricOB> in my company they simply said : do not use
[08:40:01] <neuralis> cedricOB: that's what's commonly known as FUD.
[08:40:01] <cedricOB> but it is for heavy usage
[08:40:42] <coderanger> personally I like using sqlite becuase I have a large number of tracs, and having the entire trac env in one place (since sqlite uses files for the db) is a godsend for management
[08:40:43] <ikonia> well I've had good experiences with mysql 5, most of the other project on this box use mysql, so it makes sense to try it
[08:40:57] <ikonia> coderanger thats the sort of feedback I was looking for
[08:40:59] <neuralis> ikonia: mysql5 is a good database. thumbs up here.
[08:41:30] <ikonia> thanks for the feedback guys, I appriciate mysql 5 intergration is new with trac
[08:41:34] <coderanger> I also worry less about things like SQL injections, since every Trac is isolated
[08:42:06] <ikonia> coderanger that is a fair point
[08:43:05] <hpnadig> coderanger: are you using apache2?
[08:43:13] <coderanger> hpnadig: Yes
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[08:46:07] <neuralis> coderanger: speaking of which, i'm experiencing a bizarre issue; mapped to /trac via mod python, the home trac page shows up fine; anything deeper (e.g. /trac/report) gets a 404
[08:46:20] <neuralis> 403, sorry
[08:46:24] <coderanger> neuralis: Do you have TracUriRoot set?
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[08:46:42] <neuralis> it's a 403, all the permissions look file, tracuriroot is set
[08:47:02] <neuralis> look fine, d'oh. weird keyboard.
[08:47:19] <coderanger> Too much caffeine again? ;-)
[08:48:16] <coderanger> does Apache record the reason for the 403?
[08:48:24] <coderanger> should be in the access log I think
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[08:50:29] <neuralis> that's the first place i looked; the logs throw a 403 on the virtual path, which is useless
[08:51:15] <coderanger> Just for the heck of it, does everything work with tracd?
[08:51:24] <neuralis> lemme try
[08:53:46] <neuralis> yep, works fine
[08:54:03] <neuralis> actually, screw it, i suppose for hacking trac, tracd -r is more practical anyway
[08:54:09] <coderanger> wanna paste your apachefu somewhere?
[08:54:11] <coderanger> heh, yeah
[08:54:49] <coderanger> I should really setup a dev environment at some point
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[09:25:16] <neuralis> coderanger: have a few minutes during the day today for some handholding with hacking this codebase?
[09:25:24] <coderanger> sure
[09:25:33] <coderanger> Ive got nowhere to be until 6 :)
[09:25:38] <neuralis> cool
[09:25:49] <neuralis> i want to add an option that affects the query module
[09:26:14] <neuralis> which has no other options, as i can tell, so i'm not sure whether i just need to add one, or put it somewhere else in the ticket system
[09:26:23] <neuralis> option in the trac.ini sense
[09:27:08] <coderanger> is this on 0.10?
[09:27:27] <neuralis> truk
[09:27:29] <neuralis> trunk, even.
[09:28:19] <coderanger> http://trac.edgewall.org/browser/trunk/trac/ticket/query.py#L349
[09:28:40] <coderanger> add "my_option = Option('mysection', 'mykey')"
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[09:30:50] <coderanger> default= and doc= are optional args too
[09:30:59] <neuralis> yep, makes sense. wasn't sure if it belonged in another file.
[09:34:14] <neuralis> coderanger: you'd put options before stating the implemented interfaces? my knee-jerk reaction was to put the option on L352
[09:34:25] <coderanger> Its a matter of style
[09:34:56] <neuralis> okay, i'll keep it consistent with the rest of trac
[09:35:52] <coderanger> hows your git craziness going over there?
[09:36:12] <neuralis> i think samat has it almost finished
[09:36:21] <coderanger> cool
[09:37:21] <neuralis> but just embedding gitweb works nicely enough that it almost makes me wonder if a proper git trac backend was more hassle than it's worth
[09:38:29] <coderanger> heh
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[10:18:39] <Blackhex> is cboos here?
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[10:27:09] <coderanger> Survey: I am working on the tracforge project membership system, can you guys think of needed roles other than "member" and "admin"?
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[11:13:10] <jenner> heya
[11:14:52] <coderanger> Hi
[11:20:49] <jenner> is there a plugin which would enable some nice hiliting of java and xml sources?
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[11:32:23] <coderanger> Hmm
[11:32:30] <coderanger> Thats a toughie
[11:32:40] <coderanger> SilverCity will do XML
[11:32:48] <coderanger> and Enscript will do Java
[11:32:58] <coderanger> But you can onyl use one or the other :P
[11:34:30] <jenner> bummer
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[11:43:41] <matt_good> coderanger: no, you can install both
[11:43:58] <coderanger> I thought it went with the first it found
[11:44:04] <matt_good> Trac will pick the appropriate one depending on the mime type
[11:44:31] <coderanger> nifty
[11:44:40] <coderanger> jenner: well they you go, just install both
[11:45:37] <jenner> well, I'vew got python-clearsilver and encscript installed, but XML isn't hilited
[11:47:30] <cmlenz> s/clearsilver/silvercity
[11:47:43] <cmlenz> not the same thing
[11:47:56] <cmlenz> clearsilver is the template engine, silvercity the syntax highlighter
[11:48:14] <jenner> oops
[11:48:18] <jenner> right :)
[11:48:44] <jenner> I wonder why it's not in debian... scintilla isn't as well
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[11:49:10] <sam`> hi
[11:49:22] <sam`> i'm getting a lot of 'broken pipe' python error recently
[11:49:23] <sam`> like http://code.bulix.org/wv6d77-15309
[11:49:25] <sam`> any hints ?
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[11:56:19] <jenner> nice, it works :)
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[12:22:54] <De_Mon> Hmm
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[12:24:01] <De_Mon> I found out why some of my .diff files arn't being rendered in html. tortiseSVN created patch files had mixed line endings!
[12:24:34] <De_Mon> -- being rendered by trac's mime viewer
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[12:59:51] <De_Mon> exit
[12:59:53] <De_Mon> doh
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[13:52:30] <killing-joke> boorad: which piece of your dbauthplugin must I put in my project's plugins directory?
[13:54:52] <boorad> killing-joke: you need to compile it to an egg and put the egg there, or in your global site-packages dir for Python
[13:55:27] <killing-joke> ahhh, thanks. :)
[13:56:01] <coderanger> @plugins
[13:56:01] <evil_twin> coderanger: "plugins" is http://projects.edgewall.com/trac/wiki/TracPlugins
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[14:02:51] <coderanger> Is there an API to find what groups a username is in?
[14:03:33] <coderanger> hmm, guess not
[14:05:48] <The_Tick> hmm
[14:06:05] <The_Tick> coderanger: you could list what built-in permissions trac has
[14:06:14] <The_Tick> and then you could compare that to permission assignments
[14:06:22] <The_Tick> and those that don't match I guess are groups
[14:06:29] <coderanger> That doens't take into account aternate group providers
[14:06:40] <The_Tick> never heard of them
[14:06:55] <coderanger> HtGroupsPlugin and UnixGroupsPlugin for example
[14:07:28] <coderanger> I can just cycle over the extension point on DeftaultPermissionStore
[14:09:00] <The_Tick> ahh
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[14:37:42] <De_Mon> I've been extracting my eggs and putting plugin.egg folders in the plugins dir, That way it's not having to dump stuff to a cache location -- right?
[14:37:56] <De_Mon> folders heh, stupid windows speak
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[15:27:07] <coderanger_cs> hmm
[15:27:31] <coderanger_cs> There should probably be some kind of error if an Option isn't found, and no default is set
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[15:53:21] <jwulff> is there anyway to have the global trac.ini override individual project's trac.ini?
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