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September 03, 2006

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[03:51:13] <alect> why would somebody wget all of trac-hacks?!?!
[03:56:11] <misc> because he is wget the whole internet for offline consultation ?
[03:57:00] <The_Tick> alect: because they'll use the majority of trac-hacks?
[03:57:13] <alect> heh
[03:57:27] <alect> ask a rhetorical question, get comments from the stalls :P
[03:58:09] <The_Tick> ask a rhetorical question on irc, nobody thinks it is rhetorical and they all think you're a jerk for asking
[03:58:12] <The_Tick> :P
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[05:02:07] <tuxipuxi> alect, should i stop my daily wget cron job?
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[05:14:13] <alect> tuxi: :P
[05:14:39] <tuxipuxi> :)
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[06:25:34] <Blackhex> alect here?
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[07:20:49] <Mitja> I get 500 internal server error in Konqueror, but not in Opera. I'm viewing changes in Revision log across different revisions in svn repository. Is this still a server issue or a browser one?
[07:22:05] <misc> server side, i guess
[07:22:15] <Mitja> Is Opera more forgiving?
[07:22:23] <misc> but it may be caused by the browser :)
[07:22:38] <misc> check the log of your webserver, you will see a backtrace of python
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[07:25:00] <Mitja> Suddenly it works in Konqueror :D
[07:26:43] <Mitja> There were some complaints along the lines of no response returned by Konqueror, but I cleared the log file to reprodruce the error. And now it disappeared.
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[08:50:11] <Rhadamanthos> Can anyone give me a hand? When I installed trac, it didn't create a SQLite database file in the db directory. I tried using touch to generate a file, but I still get the error "TracError: The user www-data requires read _and_ write permission to the database file /var/trac/HDC/db/trac.db and the directory it is located in." I've used chmod and chown to assign the directory to it, and make sure it has the pemissions, but still get
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[08:57:04] <tuxipuxi> lol
[08:57:34] <tuxipuxi> better generate a fresh project using trac-admin initenv. what you're trying to do makes no sense
[08:58:04] <Rhadamanthos> Ok, there's one thing I didnt get about initenv
[08:58:24] <Rhadamanthos> It asks me for the database connection string, which the "tracOnUbuntu" guide didn't say anything about
[08:58:41] <Rhadamanthos> What's the db connection string for an SQLite database file?
[08:58:46] <tuxipuxi> simply let it stay the default
[08:58:48] <tuxipuxi> just git enter
[08:59:36] <Rhadamanthos> Ok, that's what I did last time
[09:00:09] <Rhadamanthos> Can I erase an environment and re-create it?
[09:02:01] <Rhadamanthos> Ah holy crap
[09:02:09] <Rhadamanthos> I was modding the subversion database
[09:02:15] <Rhadamanthos> Instead of the trac one
[09:02:21] * Rhadamanthos feels pretty stupid
[09:02:29] <Rhadamanthos> Thanks for putting me on the right track though
[09:02:36] <Rhadamanthos> Its fixed now
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[09:34:02] <Riccc> Hia , is there a way in the browser to see all difference between HEAD and a specific revision ?
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[10:19:47] <pacopablo> Riccc: in 0.10 there is
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[11:43:15] <cosmotic> is there an easy or prefered way to remove items from the main nav in trac?
[11:50:34] <Riccc> pacopablo: ty
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[11:54:20] <tuxipuxi> cosmotic, non-programmatically by disabling components
[11:55:11] <cosmotic> i tried installing the WebAdmin plugin, but I dont see the new navigation bar item
[11:55:26] <cosmotic> is there any way to see the installedp lugins to see if it worked?
[11:55:30] <tuxipuxi> cosmotic, logged in using a user who has TRAC_ADMIN?
[11:55:36] <cosmotic> I think so
[11:55:48] <cosmotic> I did a permission add user TRAC_ADMIN
[11:55:55] <cosmotic> and it didnt come up
[11:56:02] <cosmotic> so i restarted the server
[11:56:05] <tuxipuxi> checked http://trac.edgewall.org/wiki/TracPlugins#Troubleshooting ?
[11:56:06] <cosmotic> and its still not showing
[11:56:41] <Riccc> Someone knowing if there is a trac 0.10 debian package somewhere ?
[11:57:30] <cosmotic> it looks like i dont have pkg_resources
[11:58:40] <matt_good> Riccc: someone packaged the trunk for "experimental", but I don't know how recent it its
[11:58:44] <matt_good> *is
[11:59:08] <cosmotic> where do I get that package?
[11:59:20] <Riccc> ty matt, didnt found it in unstable/testing, searching for it in experimental
[11:59:41] <cosmotic> nverind
[12:07:46] <cosmotic> when I click login, it doesnt ask for a username or password, it just assumes one... Where is this being saved and is there a way to prevent it?
[12:11:06] <Blackhex> Do you know any tool fo Linux which will find file duplicates on disc by content (not name)?
[12:11:47] <siezer> hrm
[12:15:34] <siezer> i forget all my cs but
[12:16:27] <siezer> you could write a script to recursively walk the directory tree starting at / , taking md5 (or sha1) sums of al the files and checking the tree for duplicate nodes
[12:16:48] <siezer> would take forever and might blow up if there are too many files
[12:18:36] <Blackhex> I could, but why to write something if there is such a tool, Total Commander has this feature in Windows
[12:19:20] <siezer> im not aware of any tool for linux
[12:19:58] <Blackhex> I found fdupes but I'm looking for something with GUI now
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[12:28:41] <dsd311> does anyone here have experience setting up trac as subdomain with lighttpd?
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[13:34:28] <coderanger> morning t'all
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[15:47:45] <coderanger> alect: SYN
[16:02:25] <alect> hi!
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[16:02:57] <coderanger> Could I trouble you for a copy of the python-trac db?
[16:03:05] <coderanger> Working on the ticket pagination plugin
[16:03:32] <coderanger> And I don't have any Tracs with 1000+ tickets
[16:07:10] <alect> sure thing
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[16:07:40] <coderanger> thanky
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[16:11:55] <|-|ank> hello - im trying to get svn to work in trac, and I keep getting Unsupported version control system "svn". I changed my PYTHONHOME and now I can import svn on the cmd line. Why isn't trac playing along?
[16:12:34] <|-|ank> or rather PYTHONPATH
[16:12:49] <coderanger> what frontend are you using?
[16:12:58] <|-|ank> tracd
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[16:14:43] <coderanger> How are you running tracd?
[16:15:16] <|-|ank> well, tracd --port .... --auth ...... --base-path=/trac project
[16:15:28] <coderanger> but not from an init script or something?
[16:15:39] <|-|ank> noep
[16:16:08] <|-|ank> should slurp my env just fine
[16:18:04] <coderanger> indeed it should
[16:18:21] <coderanger> where are your subversion libs located?
[16:18:52] <|-|ank> /usr/local/lib/svn-python
[16:20:55] <coderanger> make a pth file in the site-packages folder
[16:21:04] <coderanger> containing that path
[16:23:19] <|-|ank> ok - i can still import on the cmdline and PYTHONPATH is unset
[16:23:26] <|-|ank> time to try trac
[16:23:46] <|-|ank> same problem
[16:23:58] <coderanger> anything in the Trac log?
[16:24:15] <|-|ank> where is that located?
[16:24:19] <coderanger> @logging
[16:24:19] <evil_twin> coderanger: "logging" is http://projects.edgewall.com/trac/wiki/TracLogging <-- Enable debug logging to file, ensure your environments log/ directory is writeable by your web server user, check for errors.
[16:24:53] <|-|ank> oh and daemonizing with -d breaks it
[16:24:57] <|-|ank> but with & doesnt
[16:25:33] <coderanger> what system is this?
[16:26:01] <|-|ank> fc2
[16:26:20] <coderanger> the obligatory question: selinux active?
[16:26:42] <|-|ank> SELINUX=disabled
[16:26:49] <coderanger> hmm?
[16:27:45] <coderanger> is that an env var?
[16:27:52] <|-|ank> i set log to stderr DEBUG and i get a couple messages, but nothing new
[16:27:59] <|-|ank> and no - /etc/sysconfig/selinux
[16:28:10] <|-|ank> its definitely offf
[16:28:11] <coderanger> check sestatus
[16:28:27] <|-|ank> sestatus? i dont have that
[16:28:35] <coderanger> hmm
[16:28:40] <|-|ank> oh root does
[16:28:45] <|-|ank> SELinux status: disabled
[16:28:47] <coderanger> okay
[16:33:11] <coderanger> dunno then
[16:33:28] <|-|ank> ok thanks anyay
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[16:53:25] <|-|ank> well, i tried uninstalling swig 1.3.29 and installing 1.3.27
[16:53:37] <|-|ank> now i just get blank pages
[16:57:41] <coderanger> log?
[16:58:13] <|-|ank> all im getting in the log is a 500 error that has html of what im seeing on the page
[16:58:36] <coderanger> whats that?
[16:58:45] <|-|ank> http://pastie.caboo.se/11591
[16:59:19] <|-|ank> refresh to see the error
[16:59:20] <coderanger> dumb question
[16:59:32] <coderanger> do you have more than one python?
[16:59:37] <coderanger> `type -a python`
[16:59:48] <|-|ank> nope
[17:00:45] <brianlucid> is there an uninstall command for trac?
[17:01:14] <|-|ank> hmm maybe ill switch to collaboa
[17:01:15] <coderanger> brianlucid: rm
[17:02:51] <coderanger> brianlucid: Every packaging system has its own, but Trac is just a python module (mostly)
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[17:11:45] <coderanger> grr, the object wrapping on the HDF working going in, but not coming out
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[17:37:15] <coderanger> http://www.coderanger.net/tracdev/query?page=2
[17:37:19] <coderanger> Pagination works :)
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[17:57:36] <Igloo> Am I missing something obvious? How do you add a milestone in trac?
[17:59:15] <coderanger> its on the roadmap page
[17:59:28] <coderanger> you need to have the appropriate perms
[17:59:47] <Igloo> Ah, thanks
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[18:33:20] <alect> is anybody else on the python infrastructure list?
[18:33:29] <coderanger> no
[18:33:38] <coderanger> (or at least I'm not)
[18:33:50] <alect> i can't post because the reverse for my mail server doesn't map
[18:33:54] <alect> quite annoying
[18:34:02] <coderanger> I could go join
[18:34:07] <alect> do eet
[18:34:13] <alect> they're spuposed to have white listed my ip
[18:34:16] <alect> but haven't
[18:34:17] <coderanger> probably should anyway
[18:34:36] <coderanger> I think pagination is done
[18:35:02] <alect> nice
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[19:22:23] <coderanger> hrm
[19:22:34] <coderanger> req.session['foo'] = 'bar'
[19:22:38] <coderanger> that should work right?
[19:23:02] <alect> i'm not sure, i have not used the session stuff before
[19:23:29] <coderanger> it looks like it should
[19:23:36] <coderanger> and there is other code in trac that does that
[19:24:19] <coderanger> aha!
[19:24:34] <coderanger> its because I can't call it in a pre-req handler
[19:24:42] <alect> ah
[19:24:47] <alect> makes (some) sense
[19:25:41] <coderanger> the downside is there is no way to work with session data easily from a filter
[19:26:16] <coderanger> since post filter never see most POSTs, since most of the time req.redirect() is called
[19:27:31] <alect> somebody else had an issue with filters too
[19:27:37] <alect> #3655
[19:28:39] <coderanger> yeah, filters in general need work
[19:29:33] <coderanger> they also get screwed up if an error is thrown during the main process_request (the post filters never run)
[19:30:36] * coderanger hackity hackity hackity
[19:31:09] <alect> i think that is intentional
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[19:54:59] <coderanger> to any of the devs around: Does anyone other than Jonas have admin access to the google list?
[20:01:36] <coderanger> okay, pagination plugin is uploaded, I think its time for dinner
[20:09:53] <alect> not i
[20:09:56] <alect> cmlenz does i think
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[21:44:17] <pacopablo> evening
[22:14:43] <alect> hey paco
[22:24:27] <pacopablo> hey
[22:26:20] <coderanger> haldo
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[22:34:46] <pacopablo> up late tonight :)
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[22:36:13] <coderanger> pacopablo: Only woke up at 4PM
[22:36:40] <coderanger> I was running a LAN party saturday night/sunday morning
[22:37:08] <pacopablo> ahh, fun
[22:37:17] <pacopablo> getting a little fun in before school?
[22:37:38] <coderanger> we started last week ;-)
[22:44:28] * pacopablo is not looking forward to calculus
[22:44:37] <pacopablo> why does school have to start again?
[22:45:03] * De_Mon shrugs
[22:45:09] <coderanger> I am actually almost looking forward to my classes this year
[22:45:42] <coderanger> Intro to AI, Bioterrorism/biowarfare, Software design and documentation, and our CCNP class
[22:46:21] <pacopablo> bioterrorism/biowarfare? how's that fit into a CS degree?
[22:46:36] <coderanger> it doesn't, it just looked too interesting to pass up :)
[22:47:49] <pacopablo> hehe
[22:50:17] <matt_good> damn, apparently Steve Irwin was killed by a sting ray
[22:50:43] <matt_good> it stung him in the chest
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[22:52:24] <coderanger> wow
[22:57:56] <misc> pacopablo: the real questuion is "how does documentation fit in a CS degree ?" :)
[22:59:06] <coderanger> misc: The class is mostly an annoyance, they spend 99% of the time going over the Unified Process
[23:00:15] <pacopablo> ugh, I don't like the unified process
[23:00:22] <coderanger> Nor do I
[23:00:31] <pacopablo> is it just me, or does it see like a bunch of useless overhead?
[23:00:49] <pacopablo> to sell expensive software, nonetheless
[23:01:42] <coderanger> I can see why it exists, in places of the bureaucratic scale of IBM and such
[23:02:17] <coderanger> But I would sooner write PHP webapps for all eternity than deal with that nonsense
[23:05:45] <alect> i hated that kind of subject with a passion bordering on mania
[23:05:55] <alect> it made me angry
[23:05:57] <alect> so pointless
[23:06:44] <coderanger> What I find very hilarious is that they require us to do a project, and follow a number of "best practices". 5 minutes and a few Tracs later and most were already done
[23:07:26] <pacopablo> does the cheeseshop have the package search ability anymore?
[23:07:29] <misc> this should be added to the TracHype wiki page :)
[23:13:26] <pacopablo> night all
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