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September 04, 2006

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[00:27:48] <X-Rob> Can anyone clue me up on why I'd be experiencing http://trac.edgewall.org/ticket/2783 - I don't know how fastcgi could not be correctly configured?
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[00:41:53] <coderanger> X-Rob: It looks like a fix was checked in a while ago
[00:42:48] <coderanger> I would try a recent trunk and see if it goes away
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[00:50:52] <coderanger> Does anyone on here have a public Trac run on Windows?
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[01:26:04] <X-Gen> hey all
[01:26:25] <coderanger> alo
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[01:37:25] <X-Rob> coderanger, yes, but that just stops warning on an exit - shouldn't fcgi's _not_ exit?
[01:37:48] <coderanger> check your webserver's log
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[01:55:05] <jesterKing> oh, I upgraded to 0.10b1 the other day :)
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[01:57:32] <coderanger> And the 5 most popular plugins:
[01:57:48] <coderanger> Webadmin, AccountManager, TracBlog, TicketDelete, Tags
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[02:38:59] <X-Gen> urg, im getting http 500 errors when it tries to download the .js or .css files. its looking for a chrome dir, that is non-exsistant.
[02:39:36] <X-Gen> should i just create the chrome dir and mode the stuff from share/trac/ into there ?
[02:44:05] <X-Gen> grrr, i have a permissions issue. :(
[02:49:01] <coderanger> X-Gen: huh?
[02:49:27] <coderanger> X-Gen: The chrome system is all done in code
[02:50:14] <X-Gen> coderanger, howcome i'm getting "fred - - [04/Sep/2006 11:46:33] "GET /test/chrome/common/css/trac.css HTTP/1.1" 500 -" in my log then
[02:50:36] <X-Gen> i looked at /usr/share/trac and thought the permissions where wrong
[02:50:56] <coderanger> whats the trac log show?
[02:52:23] <X-Gen> its got warnings about files not being found, but its looking at a windows path :( ive trying to move my windows install to linux
[02:52:33] <X-Gen> WARNING: File trac.ico not found in any of ['C:\\Python23\\share\\trac\\htdocs']
[02:53:56] <X-Gen> hmm, maybe ill need to delete the compiled python stuff that was copied accross
[02:53:57] <coderanger> ahh, you need to reinstall Trac
[02:54:11] <coderanger> you cant just move the modules
[02:54:28] <coderanger> though the env is platform-agnostic
[02:54:48] <X-Gen> i think ive just discoverd that :(
[02:55:02] <coderanger> the file in question is trac/siteconfig.py
[02:55:25] <coderanger> thats generated by the install procedure, and it contains site-specific paths and such
[02:57:57] <X-Gen> sweet, ive ignored the comment and updated the file, the site is now working
[02:58:07] <X-Gen> thanks coderanger
[02:58:14] <coderanger> I would still recomend reinstalling ...
[02:58:20] <coderanger> Its not like it takes very long
[02:59:42] <X-Gen> i dont know how to write plugins for trac, so ive implemented some changes in the actual trac code :( thus the reason for not wanting to just reinstall
[03:00:20] <X-Gen> once ive figured out how to make my changes as part of a plugin...etc i will do the re-install. oh and its installed on a old fedora core 2 box :(
[03:01:55] <X-Gen> thanks for your help once again
[03:01:59] <X-Gen> coderanger,
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[03:47:44] <coderanger> alect: SYN
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[04:22:33] <alect> evening people
[04:22:38] <alect> hey coderanger
[04:24:22] <coderanger> alect: What was it you wanted to send to the infrastructure list?
[04:24:49] <alect> umm
[04:25:03] <alect> what's your email address? i'll send you the messages that need replying
[04:25:17] <alect> nm i have it :)
[04:34:43] <alect> okay, bombs away
[04:34:47] <alect> hopefully it will get through :)
[04:34:51] <coderanger> roger
[04:34:57] <alect> sent it to your rpi account
[04:35:17] <coderanger> got it
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[04:40:12] <ynezz> hi, is it possible somehow to enable a notifications in wiki pages also?
[04:41:02] <coderanger> ynezz: Not directly
[04:41:08] <coderanger> but there is a script on trac-hacks for it
[04:41:16] <coderanger> and you can use the RSS feeds
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[04:50:31] <coderanger> alect: Okay, password emails sent
[04:51:39] <alect> excellent, thanks
[04:53:57] <coderanger> Just got a bounce for martin@python.org, i take he is the one with the non-python address?
[04:54:18] <alect> errr
[04:54:29] <alect> there names are on the psf page
[04:56:36] <alect> their even
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[04:57:24] <alect> maybe
[04:57:32] <coderanger> I got it
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[04:57:59] <coderanger> its hidden in bowels of the wiki
[04:58:16] <Getty> ok.... now i come to the point where i could need that "multiply" projects in one trac feature
[04:58:27] <Getty> tell me, what direction i should go to take use of that later?
[04:58:51] <coderanger> Getty: It depends very much on your setup
[04:58:59] <coderanger> how closely tied are the various components
[04:59:02] <coderanger> how many are there
[04:59:09] <Getty> ok, situation
[04:59:15] <coderanger> should they be in seperate tracs
[04:59:20] <Getty> we got several webprojects that consist of several components which are actual own projects itself
[04:59:31] <ynezz> coderanger: ok, thanks
[04:59:45] <Getty> all projects needs own release cycle, so i make own SVN repository for any component
[05:01:13] <coderanger> so each "webproject" should be a set of related tracs?
[05:02:36] <coderanger> and then use inter-trac links if you need to point from one to another
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[05:11:59] <Getty> coderanger: cool
[05:12:08] <Getty> coderanger: so i actual just build one trac per project, and then use inter-trac
[05:12:18] <Getty> and best if its one trac with multiply projects i mean of course
[05:12:26] <Getty> good good... i hope i get this working like i want
[05:12:31] <coderanger> One Trac == One Repo
[05:12:32] * Getty sees tracing nights
[05:12:37] <Getty> but but...
[05:12:50] <Getty> there was something where you can define several trac-paths with one trac, right?
[05:13:08] <coderanger> TRAC_ENV_PARENT_PATH
[05:13:11] <Getty> aehm aehm i have read it while making the webinterface for trac ready
[05:13:17] <Getty> yeah somehow this
[05:13:29] <Getty> so that i technical got one scriptbase but several trac paths depending on which url is access, right?
[05:13:34] <coderanger> similar to subversion ParentDir stuff
[05:13:44] <coderanger> correct
[05:13:48] <Getty> ok clear
[05:14:04] <Getty> good, "make it so" aehm no... "i make it so" ;)
[05:14:17] <Getty> and inter-trac is a plugin?
[05:14:29] <coderanger> No, it is part of the wiki system in 0.10
[05:14:38] <Getty> ah ok
[05:14:42] <Getty> 0.10 ?
[05:14:52] <Getty> oh! i got 0.9
[05:14:55] <coderanger> The release that is currently in beta
[05:15:02] <Getty> ah ok, is the beta useable?
[05:15:06] <coderanger> yes
[05:15:06] <Getty> so that i can directly deploy this one?
[05:15:07] <Getty> ok
[05:15:17] <Getty> then it will be
[05:15:28] <coderanger> You may want to look at TracForge for some more advanced stuff
[05:15:38] <coderanger> but its very undocumented still
[05:15:41] <Getty> i'm always a bit scared, but interested of course
[05:16:06] <Getty> dont want to be happy about a new feature which then is a horror in detail or cause of technical issues
[05:16:18] <Getty> dont want to start my career as development leader with a big crash ;)
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[07:31:00] <Marlun> To be able to login to trac do I only have to put trac.web.auth.* = enabled inside the trac.ini, I don't need any plugin?
[07:33:22] <Marlun> hmmm or maybe the trac.web.auth.* is for some plugin I've used before...
[07:33:24] <X-Gen> Marlun, and you need something on the cmd line, and a password in the httaccess file (if u are using tracd)
[07:33:44] <Marlun> I'm using Apache.
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[07:42:36] <Marlun> In my trac.ini files I also have [central] database = /path/to/a/dbauth.db envrott = /path/to/trac/main/folder, but now when I click on the "login" link on my trac I Get an error and in the end of the traceback is: AssertionError: Authentication information not available.
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[08:13:12] <boorad> Marlun: that seems to be left over from DbAuth plugin - if you're still using it, fine, leave it. If you want to use Apache auth, then remove it.
[08:14:00] <boorad> Marlun: I've also found that if it's in your global trac.ini file, a newer version of 0.10 copies all that's in your global trac.ini into a new project's .ini file.
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[08:29:24] <Marlun> boorad: thanks for answering me, yeah I figured it out too that it was from the DbAuthPlugin :), I'm going to test the AccountManager plugin instead so I removed all of it and now only put what the new plugins tell me to put there :)
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[09:03:27] <Marlun> Ok now I've installed AccountManager Plugin and the WebAdmin Plugin, but when I try to login I get this: AttributeError: Cannot find an implementation of the "IPasswordStore" interface named "". Please update the option account-manager.password_store in trac.ini.
[09:04:10] <Marlun> I've set the password_store = HtPasswdStore
[09:04:27] <Marlun> ah, i may not have killed the fastcgi process, brb :)
[09:05:25] <Marlun> nope, still get the same message.
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[09:07:44] <Marlun> argh, I see I did password_format instead of password_store :)
[09:10:12] <Marlun> ...still same message.
[09:13:15] <Marlun> argh, I don't look as I should, now it changed to: AttributeError: Cannot find an implementation of the "IPasswordStore" interface named "HtPasswdStore". Please update the option account-manager.password_store in trac.ini.
[09:14:34] <Marlun> Maybe I need to update my trac, since thats for 0.10, but I did update it from the latest development source code just some days ago.
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[09:18:00] <Sebastian> Trac doesn't let me create a new ticket anymore: columns ticket, name are not unique.
[09:18:02] <Sebastian> Any idea?
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[09:44:16] <X-Gen> if i have a ticket number, whats the best quickest way to navigate to it ?
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[09:51:01] <Inc> is there a svg for the paw print?
[09:53:54] <Inc> or anything that I can get the pawprint to place on my logo?
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[10:04:05] <phoenixz> Hi, I have a trac installation which is giving me a crash when I load the page. Could anybody tell me what this is? See https://trac.phoenixz.org or http://paste.lisp.org/display/25350
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[10:31:36] <coderanger> Inc: ITs in the documentation folder
[10:32:05] <coderanger> X-Gen: Enter #foo in the search box
[10:32:13] <coderanger> i.e. #1
[10:34:03] <o_cee> hey, when i tried out svn+trac today i noticed that .frm-files (VB) didn't get syntax highlighting like other VB files did.. version 1.3.2 i think it was..
[10:36:13] <coderanger> o_cee: Add that to you mime_map
[10:37:06] <coderanger> or if you are running trac 0.9.x, set their MIME type
[10:37:34] <o_cee> coderanger: using 0.10.. will look at that tomorrow. might be something to add to the defaults
[10:38:10] <coderanger> the default is to trust Subversion's MIME data ;-)
[10:38:24] <o_cee> oh :)
[10:38:31] <o_cee> silly subversion thne
[10:38:49] <coderanger> Subversion doesn't automatically set that for you, you have to do it
[10:39:03] <coderanger> svn pe svn:mime-type file
[10:39:04] <coderanger> i think
[10:39:10] <Inc> coderanger, on?
[10:39:16] <o_cee> ok.. as i said, just set it up on a test machine.
[10:39:18] <o_cee> thanks
[10:39:49] <coderanger> Inc: http://trac.edgewall.org/browser/trunk/doc
[10:44:24] <Inc> ty
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[10:53:29] <feindbild> hi =)
[10:53:35] <rob-to86> na
[10:57:43] <feindbild> I've just installed and configured trac and added a user with admin permissions .... but when I try to login I get the following backtrace:http://rafb.net/paste/results/otUhst22.html
[10:58:10] <feindbild> has anybody an idea what the problem could be ? I can't find any clues in the manual/faqs
[10:59:34] <feindbild> I'm running the standalone tracd and sqlite as db backend btw ...
[11:03:28] <coderanger> you need to give --auth
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[11:17:43] <feindbild> coderanger: Thank you ^^
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[11:32:11] <feindbild> hmm ... I've created a htdigest file, started tracd with --auth but I still get a backtrace =/ -> http://rafb.net/paste/results/fMhbBx53.html
[11:33:29] <Marlun> When adding a permission with "trac-admin /env/ permission add <user> <action> [action] [...]" what is action?
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[11:39:03] <matt_good> Marlun: it's either a permission, or the name of a group
[11:39:16] <matt_good> run "permission list" to see a list of available permissions
[11:39:36] <matt_good> or check the Trac wiki (I think the page is TracPermissions)
[11:41:09] <brianlucid> anyone know what causes this error when running tracd?
[11:41:11] <brianlucid> ImportError: cannot import name BasicAuth
[11:44:24] <matt_good> brianlucid: do you get a traceback where it's calling import?
[11:45:25] <matt_good> the class should be called "BasicAuthentication", not "BasicAuth"
[11:47:21] <feindbild> nobody having an idea why I get this backtrace -> http://rafb.net/paste/results/fMhbBx53.html ?
[11:47:38] <matt_good> brianlucid: ah, it looks like you must be using an old version of the "tracd" script with a newer version of Trac
[11:49:13] <matt_good> feindbild: the first part of the --auth should just be "leo", not the full path
[11:50:21] <brianlucid> matt_good: I downgraded to a lesser version (1.0 down to .96) so that's potentially why
[11:50:58] <brianlucid> matt_good: thought I deleted everything though, not sure what is still "lingering" around
[11:51:06] <feindbild> matt_good: thank you that worked =) everywhere else I had to specify the complete path for the project name ...
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[11:53:26] <brianlucid> matt_good: removed everything again and all appears well
[11:54:23] <feindbild> Ain't I supposed to have a admin entry in the amin menu with the TRAC_ADMIN permission ?
[11:54:32] <feindbild> s/amin/main/
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[11:54:56] <matt_good> feindbild: if you installed the WebAdmin plugin you will
[11:55:15] <feindbild> ^^
[11:55:41] <Marlun> matt_good: yes I found that, should have checked the wiki before asking :) Thanks for helping me at the google group too, at last everything seems to be working :)
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[11:57:06] <matt_good> Marlun: np
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[12:00:39] <Marlun> Is the "Page History" funktionality that trac-hacks.org has a plugin?
[12:01:23] <Marlun> +c -k
[12:07:41] <matt_good> Marlun: no, alect needs to update the code on there
[12:08:37] <matt_good> due to the addition of other items in the subnav section on the Wiki you need to click "Last Change" to get to the "Page History"
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[12:16:21] <matt_good> cmlenz: so, is there a plan for 0.10?
[12:17:23] <matt_good> I guess there are a couple things that should still be fixed, though stuff like "Database is locked" is probably not going to be fully resolved
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[12:38:23] <jborg> matt_good, do you mean #3503?
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[12:41:49] <matt_good> jborg: yeah, I guess maybe that one's more specific than general SQLite locking now that I look at it agin
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[13:08:00] <cboos> hello
[13:08:21] <cboos> alect?
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[13:22:29] <o_cee> is it possible to show files bigger than the 250kb limit?
[13:23:01] <cboos> o_cee: yeah, that's only a TracIni setting
[13:23:14] <o_cee> cboos: ooh, great. thanks
[13:23:14] <cboos> [mimeview] max_preview_size
[13:23:45] <o_cee> thanks. will check it at work tomorrow
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[14:20:20] <coderanger> jborg: Ping
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[14:27:07] <Inc> coderanger, do you develop trac?
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[14:27:31] <coderanger> Inc: Not the Trac core, but I work on a lot of plugins
[14:27:38] <Inc> ah
[14:27:42] <Inc> who started the project?
[14:28:14] <coderanger> Though one of these days I should put my money where my mouth is and help with that too probably
[14:28:21] <coderanger> Jonas and Daniel
[14:29:29] <jborg> coderanger, yes?
[14:29:36] <Inc> d1n and jborg?
[14:29:37] <coderanger> Though Daniel seems to have moved on to bigger and better things lately
[14:29:47] <Inc> ah whats he working on?
[14:29:57] <coderanger> jborg: Can you look at the trac-users list, I seem to be subscribed twice
[14:30:58] <coderanger> one is to coderanger@gmail.com
[14:31:27] <coderanger> and I think kantrn@rpi.edu got added too
[14:32:19] <jborg> coderanger, yeah, I found coderanger@gmail.com, kempf@rpi.edu and kantrn@rpi.edu
[14:32:29] <coderanger> can you remove kantrn@rpi.edu?
[14:32:37] <coderanger> coderanger@gmail just forwards there anyway
[14:32:53] <jborg> sure, done
[14:32:58] <coderanger> thanky :)
[14:33:38] <coderanger> there doesn't seem to be any way to unsubscribe non-gmail accounts :-/
[14:34:04] <coderanger> at least as a user
[14:34:54] <jborg> just send an email to trac-users-unsubscribe@googlegroups.com
[14:35:04] <jborg> http://groups.google.com/support/bin/answer.py?answer=7892&topic=251
[14:35:09] <coderanger> ahh, good to know
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[14:38:23] * ^BuGs^ might develope a bugzilla to trac conversion script...
[14:39:26] <coderanger> ^BuGs^: Its in the contrib directory
[14:40:02] <coderanger> http://trac.edgewall.org/browser/trunk/contrib/bugzilla2trac.py
[14:40:03] <^BuGs^> nvm
[14:42:30] <^BuGs^> well.. I guess I am just waiting for trac to be able to do once copy of trac for mulipule projects.
[14:42:33] <^BuGs^> one*
[14:43:02] <coderanger> what do you mean?
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[14:44:01] <^BuGs^> to keep tickets/roadmap/timeline seperated with different projects
[14:44:25] <^BuGs^> instead of it just being "combined" in one listing.
[14:45:14] <coderanger> Just use a set of separate Tracs (usually along with TracEnvParentDir)
[14:51:33] <Inc> coderanger, whats daniel working on now then?
[14:51:42] <coderanger> Inc: Don't know
[14:51:50] <Inc> ah, another opensource project?
[14:51:59] * Inc hopes so
[14:52:03] <Inc> trac is awesome
[14:52:17] <coderanger> I don't think I have every actually spoken to him. I only started working with Trac at 0.8.4
[14:52:26] <Inc> ah
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[15:08:17] <feindbild> is there a plugin repository for trac ?
[15:09:05] <alect> coderanger, thanks for all the emails to psf :)
[15:09:05] <alect> nice one
[15:09:15] <coderanger> alect: No prob
[15:09:28] <tuxipuxi> feindbild, trac-hacks.org
[15:09:52] <coderanger> Though I am honestly not sure if Trac is going to work for something of the scale they need
[15:10:34] <feindbild> tuxipuxi: thanks =)
[15:10:38] <feindbild> bye =)
[15:10:52] <tuxipuxi> np :) bye
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[15:11:31] <alect> i'm not convinced either
[15:11:47] <alect> i'll add the accountmanager plugin today
[15:12:09] <coderanger> alect: I think the one thing we have going for us is Trac is much much more flexible than the other choices
[15:12:09] <alect> is the pagination plugin well integrated?
[15:12:25] <alect> yeah agreed
[15:12:44] <coderanger> alect: So even if we aren't the best choice, we may be able to work with them to make it what they need
[15:12:51] <coderanger> Yeah, I think so anyway
[15:12:59] <coderanger> I only tested it on one of my dev tracs
[15:13:42] <coderanger> Though Brett wrote back to me saying that if it doesnt from the the Python wiki or the list, it isn't an official request
[15:13:51] <coderanger> So I'm not sure who added that
[15:13:57] <alect> hmm ok
[15:14:09] <alect> well if they don't care about pagination, then we can ignore it for now
[15:14:12] <coderanger> Its good to have made though :)
[15:14:14] <alect> but good to have it anyway
[15:14:16] <alect> heh yeah
[15:14:47] <alect> right, off to work
[15:14:49] * alect waves
[15:14:56] <coderanger> see ya
[15:16:46] <Marlun> can someone please make the difference between milestone and version a little more clear for me? =) When adding a ticket for example, I should choose both of them.
[15:17:20] <coderanger> Marlun: Usually (though Trac doesn't enforce anything) the version is the version they were suing when they had the problem
[15:17:30] <coderanger> and the milestone is the release in which you plan to have a fix
[15:18:02] <Marlun> ah :) that works, thanks!