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September 07, 2006

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[00:50:15] <cboos> cmlenz: hi, did you already update the SpamFilter to r3696?
[00:50:41] <cmlenz> doing that right now
[00:54:20] <cmlenz> done
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[01:07:11] <fireun-dubh> anyone awake?
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[01:18:07] <cboos> cmlenz: good! and sorry for having removed the comment check in r3686 :-\
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[01:18:49] <cmlenz> np... IIRC I reviewed the patch, and didn't notice the problem either ;-)
[01:20:04] <cboos> speaking about reviewing patch.. you could have a look at #3679
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[01:20:37] <cmlenz> yeah
[01:20:52] <cmlenz> added my 0.02 cents already ;-)
[01:20:58] <cmlenz> well, €0.02
[01:21:50] <cboos> I agree
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[01:22:25] <cboos> I'll update the patch sometimes later...
[01:22:33] <The_Tick> !ticket 3679
[01:22:37] <The_Tick> hrmph
[01:22:38] <The_Tick> no bot?
[01:22:57] <cboos> maybe
[01:23:02] <cboos> @ticket 3679
[01:23:02] <evil_twin> cboos: http://projects.edgewall.com/trac//ticket/3679
[01:23:08] <cboos> he
[01:23:15] <The_Tick> ooh
[01:24:25] <Sebastian> I am running Trac 0.9.6 and have just installed TracWebAdmin-0.1.1dev_r2765-py2.4.egg using easy_install and enabled it in trac.ini. However I don't get the "Admin" tab. And, yes, my user has the TRAC_ADMIN permission. Any hint appreciated.
[01:24:43] <cboos> cmlenz, and there's also the last attachment on #3655
[01:24:48] <cboos> @ticket 3655
[01:24:48] <evil_twin> cboos: http://projects.edgewall.com/trac//ticket/3655
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[01:30:13] * cmlenz gets TracLinks autolinked in my IRC client ;-)
[01:31:48] <cmlenz> cboos: maybe make those instance methods?
[01:32:05] <cmlenz> _post_process_request() and _pre_process_request()
[01:32:12] <cmlenz> and inline the post_process_after_error
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[01:32:33] <cboos> post_process_after_error is called at least twice... if not 3
[01:32:34] <marlun> The url that the boot generates doesn't work, because of the double slash /.
[01:32:59] <cboos> no, twice
[01:32:59] <cmlenz> cboos: I see two
[01:33:17] <cmlenz> I think it'd make the code clearer
[01:34:28] <cboos> well, it's a try/except block inside... so inlining that would make the total indentation get quite deep
[01:34:50] <cboos> try/try/except/try ...
[01:35:39] <cboos> ha, but yes, it's clearer as I see now a bug ;)
[01:36:29] <cboos> lines 241/242 should be exchanged
[01:37:05] <cmlenz> can't you just "raise" (no argument)
[01:37:18] <cboos> you loose the original backtrace
[01:37:29] <cmlenz> I don't think so
[01:37:49] <cmlenz> just "raise" with no args reraises the current exception
[01:38:23] <cboos> yes, but with the current location, i.e. the line where you "raise" will be in the backtrace
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[01:38:45] <cboos> (and the original location is lost)
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[01:42:11] <cmlenz> no
[01:42:37] * cmlenz pasted http://pastie.caboo.se/12146
[01:43:42] <cmlenz> try it :-)
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[01:53:55] <cboos> he, on pastie, the way they separate the line numbers from the line content is cool
[01:54:29] <cobaltsixty> do you know if trac has any pastebin plugin?
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[01:56:53] <cboos> cmlenz: ok, I was wrong... ;)
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[02:02:06] <cmlenz> yup :-)
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[02:19:10] <aLeSD> hi all
[02:19:20] <aLeSD> I have a question on the wiki system of trac
[02:19:25] <aLeSD> could I insert images ?
[02:20:27] <aLeSD> and another thing ... could someone send me a link of a trac with the doxygen plugin ?
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[02:21:33] <jave> the html saniizer in trac, will it handle src="javascript:" contructs?
[02:25:16] <cmlenz> it will strip them
[02:25:57] <jave> we are thinking of using it in a project of our own. is that feasible?
[02:27:34] <jave> also, what basic strategy does the sanitizer employ
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[02:28:18] <cboos> aLeSD: http://trac-hacks.org/wiki/DoxygenPlugin
[02:28:21] <cboos> and
[02:28:24] <cmlenz> jave: I would recommend Markup (http://markup.edgewall.org/) for a reusable implementation, if you just want to use an external library
[02:28:30] <cobaltsixty> oh, btw. how could I publish a wiki page from a shell script?
[02:28:34] <cboos> @WikiMacros#Image-macro
[02:28:34] <evil_twin> cboos: Error: "WikiMacros#Image-macro" is not a valid command.
[02:28:43] <cboos> @wiki WikiMacros#Image-macro
[02:28:43] <evil_twin> cboos: http://projects.edgewall.com/trac//wiki/WikiMacros#Image-macro
[02:28:52] <jave> cmlenz: tnx
[02:29:01] <aLeSD> so I cannot insert images ?
[02:29:05] <cmlenz> jave: the strategy is: parse the HTML, strip out any potentially dangerous elements, attributes, and link targets
[02:29:21] <cboos> aLeSD: of course you can: http://trac.edgewall.org/wiki/WikiMacros#Image-macro
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[02:29:41] <cboos> (that macro is part of the standard Trac)
[02:29:50] <aLeSD> ok ... thanks
[02:29:51] <cmlenz> jave: see the tests (http://markup.edgewall.org/browser/trunk/markup/tests/filters.py#L22) for what kind of stuff it handles
[02:30:34] <cmlenz> if you just want to rip out the HTMLSanitizer from Trac to use it in your code, that works two... both just offer similar safety
[02:33:02] <jave> many thanks cmlenz
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[02:50:03] <aLeSD> is it possible to deactivate the tickets ? Cause we are using bugzilla
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[02:57:18] <cboos> aLeSD: yes, it's possible; in addition, you can even write a plugin that will redirect the #xyz references to bugzilla ...
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[02:58:19] <stian> Greetings
[02:58:30] <cboos> aLeSD: see http://trac.edgewall.org/attachment/wiki/ChristianBoos/mantis_tickets.py
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[03:00:10] <X-Gen> hey all
[03:00:38] <X-Gen> default_handler = WikiModule, what other values can i put in there ? can i put in logon page ?
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[03:02:00] <stian> I just moved my svn repo from one server to another (using svnadmin dump), and I just now installed trac. Using tracd everything works fine, but when I integrate it into my lighttpd config I get the following result -> http://projects.lignu.no/neural I tried to just touch VERSION so it was there, but that gives me an IO error. Any suggestions?
[03:02:27] <stian> nevermind
[03:02:41] <stian> I just realised I set it to the svn repo, not the trac env :P
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[03:55:39] <aLeSD> really could someone give me the link of a trac with doxygen plugin activated ?
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[04:33:17] <cboos> anyone trac-hacks.org admin around? coderanger?
[04:34:14] <cboos> quite "serious" spam on TH tickets #1, #130 and #215 ... should be deleted
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[04:41:57] <Sebastian> Hi! I am using the AccountManager plugin with Trac served by lighttpd. I am using htdigest but the AccountManager plugin writes user::hash instead of user:Domain:hash. What can I do?
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[04:45:58] <bobbens> hello, i recently did a debion upgrade, havent touched my config but now i get: "Directory index forbidden by rule:" in my error log and internal server error on the client
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[05:06:06] <bobbens> nm solved :)
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[05:35:55] <o_cee> hey, tried the windows post commit script from #1602 and can't get them to work, anyone know what the database_version of 0.10b1 is? seems the scripts wants version 7, don't know if it's safe just to change that
[05:44:04] <o_cee> no one?
[05:45:13] <o_cee> doesn't seem like the default script checks that at all...
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[06:09:37] <alect> what the hell is going on with these spammers
[06:09:58] <alect> they seem to have increased their spam significantly
[06:10:15] <cmlenz> yeah
[06:11:08] <alect> you see that redirect ticket, #3684?
[06:11:24] <alect> the attachments, if there were any, had already disappeared
[06:13:41] <cmlenz> I must admit I don't grok the problem yet
[06:13:47] <cboos> actually, when I tried to see them, I could see the source, but trying to view the "Original Format" redirected me to some other point in the web... The spam html files did contain <script> tags, and the javascript code must have done the redirect
[06:14:29] <cmlenz> erm
[06:14:31] <cboos> ... so probably lighthttpd has the render_unsafe_content flag set to true ... or there's a problem with that part of the code
[06:14:48] <cmlenz> right, that's what I was just going to say
[06:14:49] <alect> fucking spammers
[06:15:46] <alect> somehow this http://trac-hacks.org/ticket/1 got through the regex filter
[06:15:54] <alect> when i post it myself, anonymously, it does not
[06:17:17] <o_cee> removing the db version check got rid of the errors, but it doesn't work.. scripts run fine, but no update is made to the ticket.. hmm, anyone got any ideas?
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[06:19:29] <alect> cboos, i fixed the tags plugin wiki template
[06:20:02] <cboos> yes, I've seen it. nice.
[06:20:47] <cboos> but of course it's a bit problematic that the tags plugin has to reuse the wiki.cs .. wasn't there any other way?
[06:22:08] <alect> the old way was a TagIt macro
[06:22:12] <alect> which was horrendous
[06:22:20] <alect> this is vastly better from a ui perspective
[06:22:32] <alect> when markup is integrated this sort of hack should be a thing of the past ;)
[06:22:50] <cboos> about TagIt macro: no, I didn't mean: "is there even a worse way to do it" ;)
[06:22:51] <alect> plus dynamically adding extra controls to wiki pages
[06:22:55] <alect> haha
[06:22:59] <alect> well i'm all ears
[06:23:23] <cboos> so it's basically to add the additional controls, right?
[06:25:27] <cboos> well, yes probably with markup there will be a nice way to add more stuff to an existing template... btw, the wiki.cs is still to be converted ;)
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[06:25:58] <alect> heh
[06:26:06] <cboos> (and that should be one of the last one actually ;) )
[06:27:18] <cboos> btw, what do you think of integrating the markup branch right away when we start 0.11 ?
[06:27:27] <alect> +1
[06:27:45] <alect> i think cmlenz was in favour too
[06:27:48] <cboos> I'm seriously sick of the .cs template now that I started with markup ;)
[06:28:00] <alect> yeah, truly
[06:28:50] <idnar> heh
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[06:29:53] <alect> not to mention, getting rid of the PITA that is the CS install process will save users much pain
[06:32:02] <X-Gen> any cookie experts online ?
[06:32:27] <X-Gen> im running trac behind apache and would like to get Mod_usertrack along with proxypass working
[06:33:14] <X-Gen> maybe i can fudge trac to set the Apache cookie and then it will show up in the apache logs ?
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[06:37:07] <alect> thank god for ticket delete plugin
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[06:43:25] <nDuff> How do the 0.10 plugins for SCMs without SVN's global revision number concept refer to revisions on individual branches?
[06:49:11] <marlun> What did you guys mean with "markup" instead of .cs files? How does "markup" work? (just curious)
[06:49:44] <cboos> http://markup.edgewall.org/
[06:50:05] <cboos> there's enough stuff there to satisfy your curiosity for a day (or two ;) )
[06:50:41] <marlun> thank you :P
[06:51:16] <cboos> and there's already a branch of trac which has been converted to use this template engine instead of Clearsilver (sandbox/markup)
[06:51:58] <cboos> (to be exact, 4 .cs left to go: report.cs, report_rss.cs, index.cs and wiki.cs)
[06:56:10] <alect> cboos...re #3503
[06:56:20] <cboos> yes?
[06:56:32] <alect> perhaps a brief message then a retry
[06:56:40] <alect> or X number of retries
[06:57:00] <alect> or just switch to postgres :)
[06:57:00] <cboos> hm, the retry isn't possible currently, I'm afraid
[06:57:09] <alect> which is what i think i will be doing soon for trac-hacks
[06:57:15] <alect> why not?
[06:57:50] <cboos> ok, you eventually coud simulate handling a POST again, if it failed, but that wouldn't be a good idea,
[06:58:10] <cboos> the database lock can happen anytime, e.g. late when saving the session.
[06:58:24] <cboos> you would have then double ticket creations and things like that...
[06:58:59] <cboos> (not sure my explanations were clear)
[06:59:09] <alect> yeah true
[06:59:24] <alect> because the entire request is not transactioned, it could be in a dud state
[06:59:37] <alect> not that it would be any worse than it is currently really
[06:59:45] <alect> i get them quite often on trac-hacks
[07:00:03] <cboos> yes ... it's far from perfect
[07:00:18] <cboos> btw, did you already read about my journaling proposal?
[07:00:54] <alect> nope
[07:01:18] <alect> on 3446?
[07:01:35] <cboos> yes, there's a link to it on #3446 I think
[07:02:08] <cboos> right, the last comment about repeatable transactions
[07:03:20] <alect> pretty sad when you have to add a table called "ticket_transaction" to a database
[07:04:12] <cboos> well, actually I don't care much about the transition phase, what I really like to have is a "transaction" table for all the transactions, not only for tickets...
[07:04:23] <cboos> of course, a better name is welcomed ;)
[07:04:57] <cboos> it should encapsulate all the identity related information of a given request, and have a unique id,
[07:05:21] <cboos> with which we could relate all the changes made during that request
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[07:18:24] <Sonderblade> can trac be made to ignore diffs on binary files?
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[07:43:31] <Davey> How do I add to the list of resolutions?
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[07:57:05] <X-Gen> Davey, edit the database, or install the admin module and edit the dbase like that
[07:57:24] <Davey> I have the admin module, I can't seem to find the option :/
[08:12:51] <Davey> I can't seem to change it, the "wontfix" etc dropdown :/
[08:15:30] <nDuff> Is there a better forum for me to be looking for information on how Trac 0.10 handles SCMs without universal/cross-branch revision numbers?
[08:16:29] * nDuff is potentially interested in using Trac with bzr, but not as much so if one wouldn't be able to refer to commits taking place on alternate branches.
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[08:29:12] <jtoy> where is the irc trac notification code again?
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[08:29:34] <jtoy> is there an easy way to add a hook of your own code when anythign in trac changes?
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[08:30:58] <exarkun> jtoy: kenaan? http://divmod.org/svn/Divmod/sandbox/exarkun/
[08:31:11] <jtoy> yes, thanks
[08:31:43] <jtoy> hmm, is there any readme of how to use this? It looks like there are trac patches?
[08:32:06] <exarkun> no docs no support no warrenty ;)
[08:32:16] <jtoy> exarkun: ok, thanks I'll read through it
[08:32:36] <exarkun> there's just one tiny trac patch, which the trac developers should apply to the official sources anyway
[08:32:43] <exarkun> maybe they will someday :)
[08:34:58] <jtoy> hmm, there is no easy way to add your own plugs whne events happen in trac? that kind of sucks
[08:35:46] <cmlenz> depends on what events
[08:35:58] <jtoy> any modication
[08:36:02] <jtoy> any CRUD action
[08:38:13] <coderanger> both tickets and wiki pages have ChangeListener extension points
[08:38:17] <coderanger> what else is there?
[08:40:26] <exarkun> milestones, reports
[08:42:16] <coderanger> reports are being phased out
[08:42:28] <coderanger> and milestone changes are rare
[08:42:40] * exarkun smirks
[08:43:04] <coderanger> there are also settings changes, which probably should be logged if not watched
[08:43:59] <pacopablo> morning vatos
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[09:11:29] <hacim> I'm getting an error when I try to browse my source via trac: ImportError: No module named cache
[09:11:56] <hacim> that sounds like some sort of python module
[09:12:20] <exarkun> Not a stdlib module
[09:13:12] <hacim> I'm running debian, so I'm guessing it is a package I am missing
[09:13:34] <pacopablo> hacim: make any changes lately?
[09:14:33] <hacim> I just reloaded apache and now it says: No module named svn
[09:14:36] <hacim> rather than cache
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[09:16:30] <pacopablo> and you didn't upgrade subversion or anything?
[09:16:37] <pacopablo> or has it never worked?
[09:17:28] <nextime> hacim : "cache" is in mod_python , svn in python-subversion package
[09:19:30] <cmlenz> cache is also in trac: trac.versioncontrol.cache
[09:23:20] <hacim> ok, I just reinstalled python-subversion
[09:24:08] <hacim> but it still doesn't want to find it
[09:25:24] <hacim> maybe I should do a reinstall of the python on this machine
[09:25:43] <nextime> hacim : are you shure about using same version of python for both mod_python and python-subversion ( 2.3 or 2.4? )
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[09:26:00] <nextime> *sure
[09:26:14] <hacim> I'll check
[09:26:52] <hacim> I'm using libapache2-mod-python2.3
[09:28:05] <hacim> perhaps that is why
[09:28:24] <nextime> and python-subversion is?
[09:29:37] <hacim> I cannot see a version for python-subversion
[09:29:51] <nextime> apt-cache show python-subversion, last line show the python version
[09:29:58] <hacim> ...but installing libapache2-mod-python removes libapache2-mod-python2.3
[09:30:04] <hacim> and now it works (after an apache restart)
[09:30:25] <nextime> hacim libapache2-mod-python is with python2.4, so, for sure your python-subversion is for 2.4
[09:31:43] <hacim> nexttime: it seems so, I think its part of the migration to python2.4 in debian
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[09:35:43] <coderanger_> gah!
[09:35:50] <coderanger_> maybe someone can tell me what this means
[09:36:05] <coderanger_> I have been watching to log (tail -f) for one of my Tracs
[09:36:27] <coderanger_> on the first request after an Aapche restart every log message is doubled
[09:36:44] <coderanger_> on the second request, 3 copies
[09:36:48] <coderanger_> and so on and so on
[09:37:13] <coderanger_> and after a dozen or so requests the server slows down so much as to be crippled
[09:37:18] <pacopablo> I've seen that before :)
[09:37:26] <pacopablo> but I can't remember why I don't anymore
[09:37:27] <nextime> coderanger_ : nice :)
[09:37:29] <idnar> mod_python?
[09:37:50] <coderanger_> Yes, and FCGI isn't really an option because I am using a mod_python authnhandler
[09:37:52] <idnar> try stopping it and then starting it (as in stop, then start, not restart)
[09:38:40] <coderanger_> Same problem
[09:38:45] <idnar> hmm, ok
[09:38:53] <idnar> no clue, then
[09:39:40] <coderanger_> maybe I should recompile with mpm_prefork and see if it goes away
[09:39:59] <pacopablo> what are you using now? worker?
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[09:40:02] <coderanger_> yeah
[09:40:22] <coderanger_> 2 processes w/ 75 threads per proc (max)
[09:41:32] <idnar> I've had endless troubles with mod_python (both writing my own mod_python code and running other peoples'), eventually I just completely gave up and haven't touched it since
[09:41:51] <coderanger_> Its been okay up until lately
[09:41:57] <coderanger_> Or at least not noticable
[09:42:44] <marlun> does trac not put a trac.ini in /usr/share/trac/conf/ by default? because that is where you are supposed to put the global trac.ini, right?
[09:43:22] <coderanger_> I commented all the thread/proc control directives so they are at their defaults, and now it is just happening slower
[09:43:47] <coderanger_> probably the same effect, but I am hitting different worker procs
[09:44:06] <coderanger_> I should probably ask on the ML
[09:49:51] <marlun> On the Trac guide for installing plugins, it tells me I need setuptools, and I've got it, but then it says that if I've got setuptools I can install with easy_install, but I don't seem to have an easy_install.
[09:50:08] <coderanger_> It should be installed as a script
[09:50:15] <coderanger_> how did you install setuptools?
[09:50:45] <marlun> apt-get
[09:51:06] <marlun> I see it now, but I was hoping not to have to write that whole path...
[09:51:25] <coderanger_> On my system it just ends up in /usr/bin
[09:51:52] <matt_good> marlun: what version did you get from apt?
[09:52:03] <marlun> in mine its: /usr/lib/python2.4/site-packages/setuptools-0.6a9-py2.4.egg/setuptools/command/easy_install.py
[09:52:15] <marlun> matt_good, you can see the version there in the path.
[09:52:41] <coderanger_> marlun: Thats probably the module, not the script wrapper
[09:52:55] <marlun> what about: /usr/lib/python2.4/site-packages/setuptools-0.6a9-py2.4.egg/easy_install.py
[09:52:56] <marlun> =)
[09:53:30] <matt_good> it should've installed a script as /usr/bin/easy_install
[09:54:18] <marlun> it has not, should I remove it and install it the way the Trac guide tells me to?
[09:54:28] <matt_good> if you try running the module in "site-packages" it'll give you an error message that you should use the easy_install script
[09:54:32] <coderanger_> a9 is pretty old anyway
[09:54:45] <coderanger_> c2 or s3 is current I think
[09:54:45] <marlun> I'll remove it then.
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[09:55:15] <matt_good> yeah, unfortunately setuptools seems to move too fast for the packagers to keep up with
[09:55:59] <coderanger_> Gentoo is usually pretty good about it
[09:56:10] <coderanger_> But I have had to bump the builds a few times myself
[09:56:35] <coderanger_> luckily its pretty trivial to package it :)
[09:56:54] <marlun> now I did it the Trac way and now it installed: setuptools-0.6c2-py2.4.egg
[09:58:40] <coderanger_> grr, I really don't understand how these messages are being duplicated
[10:01:02] <newz2000> is trac good for managing artwork/image revisions for a team of artists? We don't need bug tracking, just web-based revisioning and commenting.
[10:02:00] <coderanger_> newz2000: Subversion isn't that great for images because they can't be merged
[10:02:11] <misc> well, maybe a simple wiki may be more suitable ?
[10:02:35] <newz2000> I haven't tried a ton, but the ones I've tried don't version attachments.
[10:08:29] <matt_good> newz2000: Trac allows you to browse the repository, but it doesn't allow you to manage/edit the files, you still do that through the SVN command line or GUI tools
[10:09:15] <matt_good> there are probably some document management tools out there that are more what you'd be looking for
[10:10:42] <newz2000> matt_good: OK. I'm not giving up on Trac, but I'll keep looking.
[10:11:39] <coderanger_> game asset managers will probably have better handing for images
[10:12:51] <newz2000> coderanger_ do you know of any? I've never heard of a tool like this.
[10:13:04] <matt_good> hmm, it looks like Open Clip Art is rolling their own: http://www.openclipart.org/wiki/index.php/Document_Management_System
[10:15:18] <newz2000> matt_good: Thanks for the link, that is providing a wealth of search words and info
[10:15:35] <newz2000> I guess its a specialized application (managing image versions)
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