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September 15, 2006

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[00:43:29] <paranoidi> I have strange problem ... anonymous users are unable to create tickets
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[00:43:59] <paranoidi> it crashes (10b1) try at http://addiktit.net/~paranoidi/trac/smartassist/newticket :/
[00:46:53] <paranoidi> ah, it's fixed in some newer version
[00:47:11] <omry> on new user registration I get : No handler matched request to /account
[00:47:12] <omry> any idea?
[00:48:38] <omry> suggestion: in the timeline, on tickets activity, it will be a good idea to add the ticket title.
[00:48:47] <omry> right now there is just a number: Ticket #21 (enhancement) closed by omry
[00:48:54] <omry> and the tooltip gives the info.
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[02:11:20] <unlord> how do you sort an array of strings in python
[02:15:47] <neuralis> unlord: in natural or numeric sort order?
[02:16:06] <unlord> ahh, I figured out my problem
[02:16:18] <unlord> [].sort() returned None because my strings began with whitespace
[02:16:21] <unlord> how strange is that
[02:16:44] <unlord> no wait, that was nto it
[02:16:58] <unlord> neuralis: natural sort order is fine
[02:17:34] <unlord> oh wait
[02:17:35] <unlord> duh
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[02:22:25] <rca> hello
[02:22:42] <rca> what exactly does trac utilize the svn authz file for? seems to work fine without one for me
[02:23:32] <nextime> for fine grained permission
[02:24:02] <nextime> ( on wiki and svn browser urls, if i can remember right )
[02:26:25] <rca> oooh, okay. so it just never occurred to me before because we have anonymous read access to everything anyway
[02:26:27] <rca> thanks :)
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[02:32:04] <Getty> coderanger: could it be that your SimilieTimelinePlugin doesnt work with 0.10b?
[02:56:35] <rca> track expects $prefix/share/trac/conf/trac.ini to be a proper file, not a symlink, right? doesn't seem to work with a symlink
[03:04:33] <alect> should not care
[03:04:37] <alect> i'd check permissions
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[03:08:09] <rca> permissions seem to be ok, world-readable and the dirs are accessible for apache
[03:08:14] <rca> running through mod_python
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[03:11:46] <rca> oh, odd. now it works? i'll check if it's a problem with browser caching here
[03:12:02] <rca> indeed, it works
[03:12:05] <rca> must have been cache
[03:12:09] <alect> did you restart apache?
[03:12:54] <rca> no, not in a while
[03:13:13] <rca> it might have been coincidence that the new image showed up when i changed from symlink to proper file
[03:13:23] <rca> i changed the header image in trac.ini
[03:15:16] <alect> i typically restart apache whenever i change config
[03:18:22] <rca> ah, i thought trac picks it up automatically on every execution
[03:18:29] <rca> but i'll do that too from now on
[03:21:28] <Getty> arghl i got again mixed timelines
[03:21:34] <Getty> even given the repository path now :-/
[03:21:54] <Getty> [trac] repository_path = is right, or?
[03:34:40] <omry> on new user registration I get : No handler matched request to /account
[03:35:06] <omry> hmm
[03:35:09] <omry> sorry, in user login
[03:44:20] <minsu_ju> -m,
[03:44:46] <minsu_ju> nb jihgh bn
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[03:59:34] <JimPanic> Hello, is there a way to actually execute, not process HTML code on a wiki page?
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[05:08:05] <elderrr> hello
[05:08:23] <elderrr> i have this problem here http://75.126.22.2:8004/cbstrac/browser
[05:09:32] <elderrr> and i found only this link related http://threebit.net/mail-archive/trac/msg00069.html but there is not solution posted
[05:09:38] <alect> i'd suspect you don;t have the python svn bindings installed
[05:21:11] <elderrr> hmm
[05:21:15] <elderrr> well it worked before
[05:21:20] <elderrr> what could have happened
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[05:38:34] <asmodai> priceless: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aY_CidIS8YM
[05:38:35] <asmodai> alect!
[05:49:04] <alect> hey asmodai :)
[05:49:53] <asmodai> alect: Sup dude?
[05:50:13] <alect> not much, just watching a movie
[05:50:24] <alect> ad' break
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[05:56:23] <asmodai> alect: ahh nice ;)
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[05:56:35] <asmodai> alect: still in the you ess of ah?
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[06:00:05] <alect> nah been back for a month or so now
[06:00:11] <alect> good to be home :)
[06:00:47] <asmodai> ahh good :)
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[06:01:08] <alect> what are you up to?
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[06:01:13] <Graaf> Hi
[06:02:16] <Graaf> I'm having a little problem. I got a trac project backup from a client. ( 0.10dev version ) and need to run it on my own server. there i have 0.10r1 version.
[06:02:20] <Graaf> But i get 'unsupported file format' error
[06:02:38] <Graaf> any idea how to solve this ?
[06:03:31] <alect> you probably have different versions of sqlite
[06:11:49] <Graaf> hmm
[06:12:21] <Graaf> i renamed the trac.db to trac.db.orig
[06:12:27] <Graaf> then i did sqlite3 trac.db.orig .dump | sqlite3 trac.db
[06:12:29] <Graaf> and it works
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[06:48:37] <alect> maaan, hit by yahoo and google bots simultaneously
[06:48:40] <alect> DoS!
[06:49:24] <Miek> DDoS!
[06:51:46] <omry> MSDOS!
[06:51:51] <omry> err.
[06:51:52] <omry> no.
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[06:58:07] <row> alect: do the bots not throttle themselfs so they act bit more like a human?
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[07:01:00] <alect> hehe
[07:01:06] <alect> yeah they do
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[07:11:07] <uberdog> I'm having a strange problem since yesterday where all sqlite tables on my shared webserver seem to be locked. I have a trac installation (0.9.6) using sqlite (3.3.7) that started giving me "database is locked" errors earlier today and continues to do so. This is not an intermittent problem -- since it began I have not been able to open a sqlite file. If I copy a database file and try and open it using the sqlite command-line tool, I receive
[07:11:08] <uberdog> te file on my laptop and upload it to the server, even as a different user, I receive the same error. Any ideas?
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[07:52:36] <JimPanic> http://qdb.us/66847 :>
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[08:31:14] <hacim> does anyone have some example trac sites that implement a nice looking ticket look?
[08:31:37] <hacim> I'm looking for some elegant trac implementations.
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[08:41:17] <em-dash> hacim: I've collected a short list of trac instances that were nicely customized (getting links....)
[08:42:30] <em-dash> disclaimer: I'm not saying these are all gorgeous from a design perspective, just examples of what people have done with trac :)
[08:42:32] <em-dash> http://trac.pocoo.org/wiki
[08:43:16] <em-dash> http://trac.adiumx.com/
[08:43:16] <em-dash> http://project.colloquy.info/
[08:43:17] <em-dash> http://dev.rubyonrails.org/
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[08:49:10] <em-dash> hacim: if you find a really nice customized trac / ticket, I would love to hear about it (maybe e-mail the list?) -- it's always nice to have good designs to lift ideas from
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[09:04:54] <foxpaul> hi all. in my view tickets section, can i add an entry for "recently changed" tickets?
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[09:05:33] <hacim> em-dash: hey thanks for those links, the first two were really nice -- my screen server hung so I got disconnected :p
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[10:28:09] <matt_good> em-dash: here's one I bet you wouldn't even recognize as Trac: http://jquery.com/docs/TracWiki/
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[10:29:09] <matt_good> (of course it looks like they've done some code modifications)
[10:29:54] <em-dash> matt_good: that's cool. I remember seeing this a while back, but I didn't make a note of it. It's recognizable as trac once you drill down to the bug reports & tickets, but that wiki is pretty tricked out :)
[10:32:24] <em-dash> OT for trac, but.... did you ever see the jQuery rotating solar system demo?
[10:33:23] <matt_good> no, I don't think so
[10:36:30] <em-dash> silly, but cool: http://www.willjessup.com/sandbox/jquery/solar_system/rotator.html
[10:38:32] <matt_good> heh
[10:46:48] <matt_good> any Windows users know if "prog >> file" works like it does on *nix to append to the file as opposed to "prog > file" which overwrites it?
[10:46:59] <asmodai> mmm
[10:47:01] <asmodai> gimme a sec
[10:47:31] <asmodai> matt_good: at least on Xp
[10:47:39] <asmodai> C:\>echo blah > test
[10:47:40] <asmodai> C:\>more test
[10:47:40] <asmodai> blah
[10:47:40] <asmodai> C:\>echo testing >> test
[10:47:40] <asmodai> C:\>more test
[10:47:42] <asmodai> blah
[10:47:44] <asmodai> testing
[10:48:12] <asmodai> matt_good: I just wonder if the application needs to support it somehow
[10:48:36] <matt_good> no, it's just piping stdout
[10:49:15] <matt_good> I know ">" works the same way, just couldn't remember if it did ">>"
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[11:00:20] <asmodai> mmm
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[11:01:02] <asmodai> alect: I think it was you I talked about this with. Yes, SWIG 1.3.29, new apr, new svn solved my pool messages on exiting trac-admin
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[14:16:41] <JanitorScruffy> Can anyone tell me how hard it would be change Trac so that tickets could only be viewed by specific groups and the user who created the ticket?
[14:24:34] <omry> not sure you can do this easily.
[14:24:55] <omry> to have tickets displayable by a specific group you need to play with the permissions.
[14:25:05] <omry> but for 'owner user'.. not sure.
[14:26:51] <JanitorScruffy> Well it would be for the ticket reporter but that would be about the same as the owner I would imagine.
[14:27:24] <JanitorScruffy> The issue being is that we have multiple customers filing bugs but we would like it so they are only able to see their own tickets.
[14:27:30] <JanitorScruffy> For privacy and other reasons.
[14:28:03] <matt_good> JanitorScruffy: if your # of customers is small you can create separate Trac sites for each, separate from the developers site
[14:28:27] <matt_good> that can help sorting out the issues that aren't really relevant to developers anyways
[14:28:35] <JanitorScruffy> Hi Matt, unfortunately that isn't the case.
[14:28:59] <JanitorScruffy> We would be willing to dig into the code to add this if it wouldn't be a lot of work.
[14:29:13] <JanitorScruffy> But we haven't really had a chance to dig that deep yet to know how much work it is.
[14:29:46] <matt_good> well, there's a branch in the "sandbox" for more granular security constraints
[14:29:58] <matt_good> I haven't looked at it yet, so I don't know what point it's at
[14:30:42] <matt_good> I'd check that first to see if it's able to meet your needs yet
[14:32:49] <JanitorScruffy> Ok, I will take a look. Is that the one labeled security? :)
[14:32:56] <matt_good> yeah, that's it
[14:33:36] <JanitorScruffy> Ok thanks.
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[16:57:15] <coderanger> alect: SYN
[17:01:38] <coderanger> alect: Trac-hacks is down again
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[20:21:45] <matt_good> coderanger: I've started a patch for TicketDelete that will use JQuery to add [Delete] buttons next to the changes on the ticket view: http://pastebin.co.uk/1163
[20:22:15] <coderanger> cool :)
[20:22:59] <coderanger> Want access to the repo?
[20:23:34] <matt_good> sure
[20:24:19] <matt_good> I'll probably be updating SpamFilter soon to add filter training, which should be integrated in TicketDelete
[20:24:29] <coderanger> cool
[20:24:44] <coderanger> I need to rework that UI masively
[20:25:47] <coderanger> okay, added
[20:26:19] <coderanger> I want to unite the delete ticket and delete changes interface
[20:26:38] <coderanger> and add the possibility of comment editing
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[20:42:21] <matt_good> well, sooner or later that'll need to be integrated properly into Trac
[21:04:33] <coderanger> yeah, but if the code is already done in ticketdelete, it just makes it easier ;-)
[21:24:51] <pacopablo> anyone know of python bindings for zsync?
[21:25:36] <pacopablo> or an implementation of it in python
[21:29:29] <ferringb> zsync?
[21:29:42] <ferringb> as in the gzip stream resetting + rsync beast?
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[21:35:57] <pacopablo> http://zsync.moria.org.uk/
[21:36:00] <pacopablo> I believe so
[21:36:08] <ferringb> huh, didn't know it was still kicking
[21:36:37] <coderanger> looks different than just rsync+gzip (which would be doe)
[21:36:40] <coderanger> er, dumb
[21:36:49] <ferringb> heh
[21:37:04] <pacopablo> ferringb: don't actually know how much kicking it's doing
[21:37:08] <coderanger> The rsync over http looks handy actually
[21:37:17] <pacopablo> jsut ran across it and it looked useful :)
[21:37:18] <ferringb> issue we found with it was that if you're going to the trouble of generating an index... just generate standalone deltas
[21:37:42] <ferringb> performance wise, abusing diffball we could stomp it pretty badly in terms of bandwidth used.
[21:38:21] <pacopablo> what were you using it for? portage tarballs?
[21:38:34] <pacopablo> or evaluating it for it would actually seem.
[21:39:02] <ferringb> trying to distribute portage snapshots, yep.
[21:40:50] <pacopablo> so you might suggest diffball as an alternative?
[21:40:51] <coderanger> I would say some kicking is still happening, last version was released Aug 06
[21:41:08] <coderanger> pacopablo: What is you goal?
[21:41:51] <pacopablo> something similar to rsync :)
[21:42:07] <coderanger> You could probably rip some code out of dircmp
[21:42:12] <pacopablo> transfer file deltas instead of full files
[21:42:23] <pacopablo> dircmp?
[21:42:23] <ferringb> pacopablo: it's what we wound up using.
[21:42:34] <ferringb> pacopablo: granted, I wrote diffball, so I'm probably more then a wee bit biased ;)
[21:43:16] <pacopablo> ferringb: it's alright, it also means that I know who to bug with questions :)
[21:43:29] <ferringb> pacopablo: zsync'c ability to handle discerning the patch chain makes it a bit easier then using diffball (which you have to track in your consuming code)
[21:43:46] <ferringb> pacopablo: bit crappy differencing performance; made it a wee bit too anal about trying to find matches
[21:43:54] <pacopablo> though there is no pyzync :)
[21:43:59] <ferringb> heh
[21:44:04] <coderanger> pacopablo: Its part of the PSL
[21:44:09] <ferringb> yeah, diffball does have craptastic pyrex bindings ;)
[21:44:27] <pacopablo> I noted that the last pydiffball release is last october
[21:44:35] <pacopablo> is it just that the bindings haven't changed?
[21:44:38] * ferringb nods
[21:44:46] <pacopablo> cool
[21:45:00] <ferringb> diffball/pydiffball (despite versions) are definitely in maintainence mode.
[21:45:02] <pacopablo> and I"m guessing that all this diffball goodness is in portage, no?
[21:45:17] <pacopablo> (which is another plus)
[21:45:20] <ferringb> should be, although since I'm no longer a dev may not have 1.0 stabled
[21:45:36] <pacopablo> ahh, that's right, you stepped down
[21:45:40] <pacopablo> still using gentoo?
[21:45:55] <ferringb> yeah, busy with a portage replacement actually
[21:46:12] <pacopablo> the one ciarnm was working on?
[21:46:29] * pacopablo can't remember the name
[21:46:33] <pacopablo> paludis?
[21:46:37] <ferringb> nah, he's doing c++ (paludis), I'm working on pkgcore (not released), python/c/bash
[21:46:37] <pacopablo> or something like that
[21:46:42] <pacopablo> ahh
[21:46:57] <ferringb> bits of pkgcore have wandered in to portage offhand; the 2.1 cache improvement came from it fex.
[21:47:05] <pacopablo> hehe
[22:00:37] <pacopablo> diffball doesn't work on windows, does it?
[22:03:45] <ferringb> nothing in the src should forbid it
[22:04:22] <ferringb> gzip/bzip2 is pretty much it's requirement, and those aren't hard reqs (don't recall if I mangled autotooling to allow disabling those offhand)
[22:04:58] <ferringb> so... shorter version, no one has tried compiling it; should work, although may have to screw around a bit with VS (if thats what folks use)
[22:05:43] <pacopablo> cool, maybe I'll try one day.
[22:05:53] <pacopablo> or rather, get my coworker to do the dirty work :)
[22:06:08] <matt_good> coderanger: ok, this should handle ticket or comment deleting: http://pastebin.co.uk/1176
[22:07:02] <ferringb> pacopablo: feel free to curse my damn in the process if I did something a bit too unixish ;)
[22:07:09] <ferringb> err, s:damn:name:
[22:09:48] <coderanger> matt_good: Looks good to me :)
[22:10:04] <matt_good> coderanger: it could use testing on other browsers though, I've only tried Firefox, but the JS is pretty simple
[22:10:32] <matt_good> well, I can commit it and if it breaks someone will complain ;)
[22:11:20] <matt_good> the font for the "Delete" link doesn't quite match "Reply", but I don't know why
[22:11:47] <coderanger> matt_good: Is there a way to get just the text from pastebin?
[22:12:08] <coderanger> matt_good: Or you can just check it in and I'll svn up here
[22:12:46] <matt_good> the code's in a textarea at the bottom
[22:14:03] <coderanger> matt_good: Its more than I can paste over an ssh session easily
[22:14:09] <matt_good> ah
[22:14:24] <matt_good> well, then I guess I can commit it
[22:15:29] <matt_good> done
[22:17:44] <coderanger> okay
[22:18:00] <coderanger> testing it in safari, shiira, camino, and firefox
[22:18:18] <matt_good> hrm, I thought trac-hacks put the project name before any commit messages
[22:18:36] <matt_good> when did that break?
[22:19:05] <matt_good> oops, I forgot to add the CSS
[22:20:03] <matt_good> ok, that's in now
[22:22:17] <coderanger> matt_good: I take it tahts why they werent buttns?
[22:22:32] <matt_good> yeah, probably
[22:22:42] <matt_good> they're really links just styled like the Reply buttons
[22:23:16] <coderanger> hmm, they look very different under shiira
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