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<angrymike> |
The_Tick: GraphVizis great too |
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<The_Tick> |
cool |
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<The_Tick> |
I'm going to show off an irc bot too |
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<prologic> |
designed for trac ? |
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<The_Tick> |
works with trac, ya |
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<prologic> |
oh nice |
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<prologic> |
where abouts ? I've been looking for one of those |
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<The_Tick> |
it's not very well documented, I'll change that |
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<The_Tick> |
ping me in a week |
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<prologic> |
oh |
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<The_Tick> |
we have it in #adium |
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<prologic> |
written in python ? |
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<The_Tick> |
ya |
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<prologic> |
nice |
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<The_Tick> |
it's a plugin to supybot |
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<prologic> |
oh right |
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<prologic> |
I have a nice plugable python bot as well that I intend to write trac ffeatures for |
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<prologic> |
hopefully using xml-rpc though |
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<The_Tick> |
rbot? |
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<The_Tick> |
this uses the rss feed |
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<prologic> |
ah k |
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<alect> |
ServerAliveCountMax 8 |
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<prologic> |
? |
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<alect> |
ignore that :) |
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<prologic> |
k |
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<prologic> |
:) |
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<prologic> |
any of you good with writing vim macros ? |
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<otaku42> |
re |
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<otaku42> |
alect: although the topic seems to have finished talking about, just to add my personal opinion: captcha is a nightmare for usability. |
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<alect> |
why? |
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<otaku42> |
alect: just saw that coderanger had exactly my argument: captchas are not working for blind people or folks that work in a text-only environment |
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<alect> |
true, you'd need a wav of the captcha |
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<alect> |
like google uses |
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<otaku42> |
alect: that requires you to have a sound card in your computer with some phones attached to it. |
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<alect> |
of course |
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<alect> |
i'd be pretty amazed if a blind person didn't have working speakers on their computer ;) |
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<alect> |
i'd enable captcha on trac-hacks if it were available |
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<prologic> |
I do atm :/ |
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<alect> |
i am totally sick of spam |
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<prologic> |
stupid soundcard is being interferred with by my wifi card |
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<prologic> |
haha |
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<prologic> |
I was away in holland for 3 weeks for the 2006 ipc world championships, I got >1000 emails |
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<prologic> |
90% spam :/ |
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<otaku42> |
alect: i agree that blinds without phones attached to their pc is an unusual case. however, i still agree with the "fear" that people are annoyed by captchas - i sure am at least |
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<otaku42> |
alect: i'm sick of spam, too, hence my work on the mod_security stuff :) |
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<misc> |
alect: well, if a captcha can be read, it can be decifered by spammer, that is the whole point |
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<coderanger> |
otaku42: I think most people accept that they are a needed evil at this point, especially since most Trac bug reporters are probably devs |
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<prologic> |
what's a "captcha" ? |
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<prologic> |
reading wikipedia on it atm |
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<otaku42> |
alect: however, one thing i'd like to see is a spam filter that works against lists that record the sites which are spamvertised. this is the most logical thing to filter on, IMO |
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<coderanger> |
prologic: Anything that allows differentiation of humans and machines |
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<coderanger> |
usually with some kind of "simple" visual task |
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<prologic> |
ahh |
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<coderanger> |
otaku42: Someone has to maintain that list |
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<otaku42> |
alect: there are several blacklists for this type of filtering, and i'd even write a filter plugin if i had the time for :) |
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<prologic> |
like those obscured images that you have to type the letters/numbers in of ? |
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<coderanger> |
otaku42: Want to volunteer? ;-) |
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<otaku42> |
coderanger: see above :) |
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<coderanger> |
prologic: Yeah, those are the first generation of them |
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<prologic> |
k |
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<prologic> |
gotcha :) |
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<alect> |
misc: a computer "reading" warped computer text is vastly more difficult than a person doing it |
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<prologic> |
I'll read the whole article later then :) |
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<coderanger> |
otaku42: SpamFilter already hits some RBLs |
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<coderanger> |
otaku42: So it should be pretty easy |
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<coderanger> |
alect: Thats not actually true anymore ;-) |
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<asmodai> |
alect: problem with CAPTCHAs is people with disabilities AFAIK. Especially if you use a coloured CAPTCHA. |
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<coderanger> |
alect: Or at least its a mostly solved problem at this point |
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<coderanger> |
With the obscured text ones, to make them not solvalbe by machine, you need to make them so warped more then 50% of humans cant solve them either |
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<asmodai> |
coderanger: Heh, I had one of those on site when I wanted to register or do something. Couldn't read the bloody thing. |
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<coderanger> |
On the other hand, KittenAuth is a very good solution :) |
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<asmodai> |
We could use kanji CAPTCHAs! |
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<asmodai> |
They won't see *that* coming! |
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<alect> |
do you have links to algorithms for reading captchas? |
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<alect> |
asmodai: yeah we have discussed it at length :) |
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<coderanger> |
alect: http://sam.zoy.org/pwntcha/ |
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<asmodai> |
http://www.hotcaptcha.com/ |
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<otaku42> |
coderanger: thanks for the hint. now i just need to have some time left over to get the modification done |
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<coderanger> |
alect: They are the most well known, but many people are working on text-breakers |
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<otaku42> |
asmodai: unfortunately everyone has a different definition of "this person is hot" :) |
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<asmodai> |
otaku42: yea |
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<coderanger> |
alect: The wikipedia article has a good list at the bottom of the page |
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<coderanger> |
otaku42: Its a joke ;-) |
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<alect> |
the captchas that solves are pretty ordinary |
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<alect> |
mostly unwarped |
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<asmodai> |
The problem with making a captcha harder through colour variation will hamper people with a colour disability |
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<coderanger> |
alect: Its not a technology that is worth investing future time in |
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<asmodai> |
http://www.w3.org/TR/turingtest/ |
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<coderanger> |
alect: There are other perceptual tasks that are just easy for a human, and orders of magnitude harder for a computer |
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<coderanger> |
alect: Which isn't a good solution,. but delays problems a little longer |
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<alect> |
i think you're missing my point... |
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<alect> |
i don't give a crap about current captcah implementations |
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<alect> |
and i'm all for any test that proves a human is doing the change |
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<asmodai> |
alect: Are you even human? mmm? |
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<asmodai> |
;) |
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<alect> |
regex filters are stop-gap at best |
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<alect> |
and akismet has proven inadequate |
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<alect> |
you'll never know! |
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<otaku42> |
coderanger: i know :) |
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<asmodai> |
wow passing some of these CAPTCHAs through http://colorfilter.wickline.org/ makes it hard to spot the writing |
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<asmodai> |
And some become very easy to crack. |
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<asmodai> |
I wonder if anyone has thought of applying colour blindness to captcha solving yet |
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<coderanger> |
asmodai: What boos is suggesting is something very idiotic |
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<coderanger> |
like have a field labeled "2+2" |
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<coderanger> |
Disablilties don't enter into it |
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<The_Tick> |
hmm |
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<The_Tick> |
how do other ticket systems deal with this? |
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<coderanger> |
(idiotic as in simple, not as is stupid) |
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<misc> |
The_Tick: forced registration, and email sending |
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<The_Tick> |
that works for forums too |
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<The_Tick> |
how about this |
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<The_Tick> |
require logins |
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<The_Tick> |
you pass 3 captchas, and at that point your account is valid |
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<The_Tick> |
or $amount |
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<misc> |
well, i was quite happy to see a way to report bug without having to get "yet another login" |
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<The_Tick> |
so you'd rather have captchas every time? ;) |
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<alect> |
you'd need something a bit tricker than 2+2 to stop spammers |
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<The_Tick> |
or get spam filtered with logging output |
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<alect> |
that would cause them pause for about...0.1 seconds |
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<asmodai> |
I hope that encrypted password Nicolas Ternisien sent wasn't one he uses often. |
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<asmodai> |
misc: *nod* |
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<alect> |
i'd rather annoy a few users with a captcha registration than have to deal with spam all the time |
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<asmodai> |
misc: too bad the spam abuse is getting high. |
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<The_Tick> |
too high |
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<asmodai> |
alect: Then I suggest we make everything mandatory with a required username/password. |
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<The_Tick> |
asmodai: spammers can automate that |
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<asmodai> |
The_Tick: Which is why you will need something to verify the account. |
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<alect> |
yeah, some reg-required sites have already been hit |
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<asmodai> |
And so you wind up walking the same path as bugzilla |
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<misc> |
asmodai: on the other hand, having a distributed way to login, like jabber+http, would be another solution |
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<alect> |
agreed asmodai |
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<coderanger> |
OpenID perhaps? |
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<misc> |
yes, something like that |
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<coderanger> |
Trac-hacks could function as an open ID server so as to reduce the admin load on Jonas |
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<asmodai> |
But how does that affect people with trac installs? |
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<coderanger> |
Hmm? |
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<alect> |
hmmm |
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<alect> |
that could work |
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<coderanger> |
It needent bne a default, I think there is already an OpenID auth plugin on trac-hacks |
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<asmodai> |
We're not just talking the main Trac project server here but also installs for other people. |
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<otaku42> |
alect: sorry, was on the phone and didn't follow the discussion. anyway: |
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<asmodai> |
That means you effectively require people to run their own OpenID provider in order to be able to use trac. So setup becomes a bit more involved. |
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<coderanger> |
asmodai: For smaller projects closed registration is clearly the solution |
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<otaku42> |
alect: how about using SSL? for the next time it's very unlikely that spambots will be able to cope with that |
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<coderanger> |
asmodai: For one of my tracs we use a moderated accoutn creation system |
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<coderanger> |
otaku42: At least as first ... |
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<asmodai> |
Mmm, so that means that again we provide no sane default and let people muck around with plugins again? I find it both the curse and blessing of Trac to be honest. =\ |
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<coderanger> |
Though maybe something like hashcash could work |
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<The_Tick> |
hacking around with httpd's of any type is annoying |
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<The_Tick> |
and not viable for lots of folks |
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<The_Tick> |
so that leaves what on the table |
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<The_Tick> |
so far, registration, captchas |
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<The_Tick> |
spam filtering |
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<The_Tick> |
regex based blocking |
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<The_Tick> |
content based filtering versus user based filtering, basically |
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<alect> |
can't believe that guy posted his crypted pass |
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<alect> |
hehe |
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<The_Tick> |
hah, where? |
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<coderanger> |
alect: Start the bruteforcing ;-) |
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<asmodai> |
bruteforcing? |
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<asmodai> |
http://www.rainbowcrack.com/ |
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<The_Tick> |
hmm |
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<The_Tick> |
will trac .10b1 work with sqlite 3.1.3? |
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<coderanger> |
I wouldn't use less than 3.2 |
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<coderanger> |
or 3.3.4 if you are using anything other than tracd |
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<coderanger> |
But it "should work" |
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<The_Tick> |
I'm just hoping I don't replace my spotlight sqlite |
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<coderanger> |
Hmm? |
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<The_Tick> |
oh, I'm installing this on my laptop, which has os x on it |
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<The_Tick> |
hmm, fink has 3.2.x |
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<The_Tick> |
that'll work :D |
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<coderanger> |
Ahh |
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<coderanger> |
spotlight uses sqlite? nifty |
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<The_Tick> |
yep |
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<The_Tick> |
they use bsd licensed stuff all over the place |
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<The_Tick> |
fink == apt, sorta |
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<The_Tick> |
but it installs everything into /sw/bin or whatever |
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<coderanger> |
Yeah, I prefer macports |
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<The_Tick> |
dports website was down when I reinstalled |
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<The_Tick> |
so I chose fink, and I've stuck with it |
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<coderanger> |
they were/are moving to macosforge |
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<The_Tick> |
*shrug* |
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<coderanger> |
(and Trac :) |
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<The_Tick> |
they're in the process |
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<The_Tick> |
ya |
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<The_Tick> |
I know the pm, gave him some tips |
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<The_Tick> |
like the svn commit hook, they didn't know about that |
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<The_Tick> |
or even trac-hacks |
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<The_Tick> |
I love how pysqlite assumes /opt/local/lib, heh |
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<alect> |
evening |
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<coderanger> |
morning :) |
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<coderanger> |
alect: Your example-hack friend posted to the list again |
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<alect> |
ah, so he did |
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<alect> |
i wonder when he will post asking why he can't access trac-hacks |
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<alect> |
same question twice. cunning |
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<alect> |
same answer twice ;) |
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<coderanger> |
I do what I can |
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<coderanger> |
It really wouldn't be that hard of a plugin. Use tags to indicate the status |
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<coderanger> |
and then query that in a post-req filter and attach a different CSS sheet for each one |
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<alect> |
truly |
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<alect> |
can't wait for markup |
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<alect> |
the capacity for plugin mischief will be increased drastically |
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<alect> |
err, genshi |
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<coderanger> |
Yeah |
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<coderanger> |
Being able to do transforms on the output stream will be kickass |
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<coderanger> |
alect: Any word from the Python people lately? |
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<alect> |
no, not at all |
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<Getty> |
trac is evil :) Internal Server error if he cant write to the log |
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<Getty> |
man, that was a shock :) |
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<coderanger> |
Its an error, and its internal to the server |
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<coderanger> |
What else would you propose? |
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<Getty> |
hehe :) |
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<Getty> |
na, regular working without logging then, just making notice in logfile <laugh> |
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<coderanger> |
There are at least a dozen reasons why thats a bad idea off the top of my head |
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<coderanger> |
Not the least of which being places that rely on the audit trails |
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<coderanger> |
Like my office |
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<Getty> |
hehe, but just for asking it 10th time... SimiliTimeline? |
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<Getty> |
regular timeline shows |
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<alect> |
asd~. |
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<coderanger> |
Getty: I need more info than that |
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<coderanger> |
Start chucking debug statements in everywhere and see what it says |
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<coderanger> |
Is the plugin seeing timeline events |
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<coderanger> |
can you load them in XML form? |
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<Getty> |
coderanger: tell me what you need, i installed the plugin, 0.10b, i shows the empty graphic with no timeline events, but the timeline self is filled |
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<Getty> |
wait checking |
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<coderanger> |
Can you use the demo a simile.mit.edu on the same machine? |
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<Getty> |
XML works |
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<Getty> |
checking |
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<Getty> |
searching the example there... |
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<coderanger> |
there is one right on front page |
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<coderanger> |
http://simile.mit.edu/timeline/ |
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<Getty> |
works |
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<coderanger> |
Then I have no idea :) |
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<Getty> |
mh |
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<coderanger> |
Grab FireBug and start dumping the XmlHttpRequests |
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<Getty> |
one thing i see in html code: Timeline.loadXML("/static/example1.xml" |
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<Getty> |
ah oh! thats just a comment :) hrhr |
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<Getty> |
yeah i retry the XML call checking what happens there |
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<coderanger> |
The plugin is a pretty thin wrapper, just shoving the existing timeline data into the Simile XML format, and throwing it all on a page |
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<Getty> |
so the XML itself is shown |
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<Getty> |
wait i check with IE if its a browser problem |
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<Getty> |
probably in the original it works and just in your wrapping is a small browser problem |
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<Getty> |
no IE directly throws an JS error |
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<Getty> |
ok there are JS errors |
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<Getty> |
wait i reinstall firebug and then give you more detailed answer |
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<coderanger> |
Okay, if its errors in the simile code I may not be able to help though |
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<coderanger> |
I tried reading some of it and it made my brain hurt |
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<Getty> |
hehe |
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<Getty> |
but actually like i said: on the simile original page it works |
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<Getty> |
so probably its just a small side bug |
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<Getty> |
yeah... cool.... |
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<Getty> |
firebug now tells me "there is no error" |
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<Getty> |
Ah! now |
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<Getty> |
ok some 'display' is the declaration ignored |
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<coderanger> |
hmm? |
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<Getty> |
and somehow he says he finds an ":" after the parsing of some data... |
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<Getty> |
f*ck just got the errors in german ;) would paste it otherwise |
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<Getty> |
trac.css line 65 & timeline.css line 45 |
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<Getty> |
so its just css error... |
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<Getty> |
probably they have nothing todo with the problem :-/ |
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<coderanger> |
neither of those are from the plugin |
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<Getty> |
bad bad |
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<Getty> |
the second one is just coming at the SimileTimeline page, nowhere else, but that could be random |
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<Getty> |
aehm yes.. cause its timeline.css lol :) |
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<Getty> |
i fix this, lets see |
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<Getty> |
yeah its a bug in the css |
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<Getty> |
position: absolute: |
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<Getty> |
top: -10em; |
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<Getty> |
i will fix it in the egg |
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<Getty> |
oh please fix that and give me a new version, thats less work then myself packaging out the egg |
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<coderanger> |
hmm? |
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<coderanger> |
no CSS is included in the egg |
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<Getty> |
aehm oh |
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<Getty> |
the url is /trac/chrome/stimeline/js/simile/styles/timeline.css |
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<Getty> |
coderanger |
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<coderanger> |
Hmm, thats from the simile people :P |
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<Getty> |
hehe but its in the egg, right? ;) |
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<coderanger> |
I grabbed an export from the subversion, and inlined it for performance reasons |
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<Getty> |
so actually that bug must be fixed by them? probably it is fixed and you just need to fetch new version |
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<coderanger> |
File me a ticket on trac-hacks and I'll try to rmember |
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<coderanger> |
Goota write this paper now |
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<Getty> |
ok |
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<Getty> |
no hurry on this anyway |
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<coderanger> |
grr, its almost 7 |
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<Getty> |
its 12:45 here |
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<Getty> |
where you are from? |
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<coderanger> |
USA |
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<coderanger> |
GMT-4 |
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<Getty> |
totally different world 8-) |
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<coderanger> |
heh |
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<asmodai> |
dammit, someone stole the 1000th commit from me :( |
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<LarstiQ> |
heh |
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<coderanger> |
hmm? |
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<asmodai> |
coderanger: on my project |
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<coderanger> |
ahh |
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<asmodai> |
coderanger: We were nearing 1000 commits |
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<asmodai> |
and someone stole 1000 from me :( |
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<asmodai> |
;) |
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<Getty> |
lol |
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<Getty> |
nice idea, making a price for that |
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<Getty> |
but then the people who misuse the commit are getting price for doing too much commits |
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<alect> |
the bastard! |
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<Getty> |
lol |
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<Getty> |
oh my god, he stole the commit! |
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<alect> |
i think i'm going to convert th to pg soon |
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<Getty> |
mh there was no plugin which automatically adds the pages where this page is linked, or? |
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<lyric> |
hello |
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<lyric> |
the wiki docs say that it is possible to use a slash ( / ) to create a hierarchy inside the wiki. |
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<lyric> |
i tried Sub/Page |
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<lyric> |
but that did not work |
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<lyric> |
is my trac installation misconfigured? |
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<lyric> |
Does trac by default support sub-wiki pages? |
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<lyric> |
Does anybody here use subwiki pages? |
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<groogs_> |
lyric: my guess would be you'd have to make it an explicit wiki link, eg [wiki:Page/Subpage] |
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<groogs_> |
testing it here, that seems to be the case |
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<lyric> |
thanks i will try |
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<em-dash> |
coderanger: you around? |
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<em-dash> |
anybody here? |
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<s0undt3ch> |
yes |
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<tigger^> |
win 4 |
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<tigger^> |
oops :) |
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<em-dash> |
oh, hi! |
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<em-dash> |
I'm currently using components to hack together lightweight multi-project support inside of one trac instance |
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<em-dash> |
the way I've done it is to make component into a compound field (project::Component). This works reasonably well. |
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<em-dash> |
It would be great to be able to do some reporting across a specific project. this will require splitting the compound field in a report (and thus in SQL) |
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<em-dash> |
I'm using SQLite as a backend, which allows one to register user-defined functions defined in the host language (so, Python) |
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<em-dash> |
but I've had the darndest time actually implementing one. anyone have any experience with user-defined functions in sqlite? |
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<matt_good> |
em-dash: /join #sqlite ;) |
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