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September 21, 2006

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[00:17:35] <s0undt3ch> can a plug disable another plug? at runtime?
[00:17:56] <s0undt3ch> or at least when loading it
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[00:34:00] <cboos> s0undt3ch: someone should write a PluginKillerPlugin ;)
[00:35:11] <cboos> more seriously, you _could_ try to modify the config, the [components] section, and save the config.
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[00:36:04] <cboos> But that would only work in some specific situations (apache pre-fork, I think)
[00:36:40] <cboos> i.e. that was a hack, forget it ;)
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[01:14:07] <s0undt3ch> well, I need to override the ImageMacro
[01:14:26] <s0undt3ch> somehow, and it would be best to be without user intervention
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[01:16:47] <Marlun> So Markup was renamed Genshi? :) Where did that name come from?
[01:17:26] <s0undt3ch> http://genshi.edgewall.org/
[01:17:36] <s0undt3ch> the next templating that trac will adopt
[01:19:23] <The_Tick> clearsilver was that bad?
[01:19:49] <s0undt3ch> I hate CS!!!!!
[01:20:12] <s0undt3ch> besides genshi will run python code within a template, for starters
[01:20:25] <The_Tick> grrr
[01:20:29] * The_Tick stabs mod_python
[01:20:40] <The_Tick> ImportError: No module named mod_python.apache <- grr
[01:34:22] <Marlun> Well I knew what it was, just wondering what the new name came from :)
[01:34:48] <Marlun> Anyone here who uses Ubuntu's repository version of trac?
[01:35:19] <Marlun> I just installed Trac from repository but this debian/ubuntu way of configuring and administrating apache is confusing me :)
[01:36:26] <cmlenz> Marlun: http://genshi.edgewall.org/wiki/GenshiFaq#WhyisitcalledGenshi
[01:36:37] <cmlenz> you can blame asmodai ;-)
[01:37:35] * maxb is just happy it no longer has an ambiguous name :-)
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[01:47:24] <Marlun> ah, well Genshi sounds good :)
[01:51:15] <asmodai> cmlenz: MUAHHAHA
[01:54:25] <cmlenz> :-D
[01:54:42] <cmlenz> asmodai: http://www.blueskyonmars.com/2006/09/20/genshi-the-best-template-language-in-python-right-now/#comment-68306 ;-)
[01:54:54] <cmlenz> can't make everyone happy
[01:55:52] <asmodai> cmlenz: was he the one that suggested papyrus? ;)
[01:56:04] <cmlenz> nah, I don't think so
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[02:10:27] <prologic> you guys thought of using kid vs. genshi ?
[02:10:36] <prologic> kid is quite nice ihmo
[02:11:23] <s0undt3ch> prologic: http://genshi.edgewall.org/wiki/GenshiVsKid http://genshi.edgewall.org/wiki/GenshiPerformance
[02:11:38] <prologic> okay :)
[02:11:42] <prologic> yeah was getting to that
[02:11:43] <prologic> hehe
[02:14:05] <prologic> hmm
[02:14:07] <prologic> me likes genshi :)
[02:14:25] <prologic> slightly better than kid
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[03:08:45] <s0undt3ch> ppl try to block user:badya name:basik email:badyahost@yandex.ru from your trac envs
[03:09:11] <s0undt3ch> this fucking guy re-registred!!!!
[03:09:15] <s0undt3ch> spammer
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[03:20:51] <otaku42> moin
[03:21:24] <otaku42> does anyone know of a plugin or hack that allows to define canned responses for tickets?
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[03:23:39] <Madeye> hey, what's wrong in this sudo tracd --port 8858 --auth /var/trac-projects/tabbula/ /var/trac-projects/trac-auth/trac.htpasswd & ?
[03:23:54] <tuxipuxi> s0undt3ch, i so endlessly hate spammers, especially web form spammers :/
[03:25:08] <s0undt3ch> tuxipuxi: all Info I had on him is on the trac-users ML unforunatly I deleted his changes without checking the IP :|
[03:25:46] <s0undt3ch> to stop that username add WIKI_VIEW to account badya and delete any account with that username
[03:25:51] <tuxipuxi> s0undt3ch, there's too many to stop them anyway :)
[03:25:57] <s0undt3ch> that will stop that username from regging again
[03:26:05] <tuxipuxi> have you considered adding captcha to the registration module?
[03:26:27] <otaku42> captcha
[03:26:36] <s0undt3ch> tuxipuxi: earlier today I was taking about email confirmation for account manager with matt_good
[03:26:37] <otaku42> uuaaah!
[03:27:13] <Madeye> hmm, anyone can help me to start tracd with Auth option please?
[03:27:19] <tuxipuxi> s0undt3ch, i've heard that some spam bots can even handle such emails
[03:27:35] <tuxipuxi> otaku42, i hate them, too, but they're kinda effecient
[03:27:39] <s0undt3ch> yeah, I know, but it will stop some
[03:28:03] <tuxipuxi> Madeye, are you sure you want to use tracd? else you can save the work and go ahead setting up trac on a real web server
[03:28:46] <Madeye> tuxipuxi, hmm ok, I already have apache2 installed, what next then ?
[03:28:53] <otaku42> tuxipuxi: in terms of being effective, SSL probably does a better job against spambots, while doing no harm or extra work on legitimare users
[03:29:10] <Madeye> this is my first trac installation and I'm doing what they said in the docs
[03:29:26] <tuxipuxi> Madeye, depends on what you want to use, CGI, FastCGI, mod_python. any preference?
[03:29:41] <tuxipuxi> otaku42, SSL stops them? don't they support SSL too?
[03:29:47] <Madeye> tuxipuxi, already got mod_python installed
[03:30:09] <tuxipuxi> Madeye, then http://trac.edgewall.org/wiki/TracModPython is for you
[03:30:26] <Madeye> tuxipuxi, thanks dude
[03:30:31] <tuxipuxi> np
[03:31:53] <otaku42> tuxipuxi: someone i know tried that with their trac installation and reported it works fine
[03:32:24] <tuxipuxi> ah
[03:36:46] <Madeye> tuxipuxi, all set; but getting 500 error, is that related to trac, mod_python or apache2?
[03:37:20] <tuxipuxi> Madeye, it depends.. anything in the error.log?
[03:38:16] <Madeye> hmm PythonHandler trac.web.modpython_frontend: ImportError: No module named web
[03:38:40] <tuxipuxi> does the mod python python version match the trac python version?
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[03:40:03] <tuxipuxi> hurry up, i want to do some sports ;)
[03:40:33] <Madeye> I'm running 2.3 python and hmm 0.8.1-3sarge5 of trac
[03:40:39] <Madeye> sorry :-)
[03:40:46] <cmlenz> try trac.ModPythonHandler
[03:41:01] <Madeye> cmlenz, what's that ?
[03:41:14] <cmlenz> well, instead of "trac.web.modpython_frontend"
[03:41:20] <tuxipuxi> you don't really want to use 0.8.1 i guess.. it's extremely outdated
[03:41:33] <cmlenz> well, that's what life on sarge is like ;-)
[03:41:40] <tuxipuxi> heh, true
[03:41:53] <Madeye> tuxipuxi, hmm, it's the default installation by the os, anyway, I can install the latest
[03:42:39] <Madeye> hah
[03:43:10] <tuxipuxi> yup, no big deal to install trac manually.. if the depedencies are fulfilled
[03:43:58] <tuxipuxi> anyway, trac's godfather cmlenz is here so i can safely leave, later :)
[03:44:49] <Madeye> hmm, then I'll go back to tracd for less hassle
[03:44:51] <Madeye> :D
[03:45:13] <Madeye> Ok, How to start tracd with the auth option ? I'm doing thsi "sudo tracd --port 8858 --auth /var/trac-projects/tabbula/ /var/trac-projects/trac-auth/trac.htpasswd &"
[03:45:17] <cmlenz> you could just change "trac.web.modpython_frontend" to "trac.ModPythonHandler"
[03:46:07] <Madeye> hmm ok, lemme try it
[03:46:50] <Madeye> cmlenz, hmm still getting the 500 error
[03:46:51] <Madeye> with
[03:47:44] <Madeye> these errors http://channels.debian.net/paste/3799
[03:48:04] <cmlenz> well, read the error message ;-)
[03:48:36] <Madeye> I'm fixing the last error but I don't know about the others hehe
[03:48:56] <cmlenz> I don't see any others
[03:49:13] <cmlenz> that's a stack trace
[03:49:17] <cmlenz> it's only one error
[03:51:29] <Madeye> wow
[03:51:43] <Madeye> How possibly I can transmit a kiss to you :p
[03:51:46] <Madeye> Thanks dude :-)
[03:51:49] <cmlenz> heh
[03:51:50] <cmlenz> np
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[03:53:40] <Madeye> hmm, it's unthemes now; do you think it's permission issue ?
[03:54:11] <cmlenz> you need to configure an Alias that points to the static resources
[03:54:25] <cmlenz> which should be installed in /usr/share/trac/htdocs or something similar
[03:54:36] <cmlenz> and add this to the httpd config:
[03:54:44] <cmlenz> Alias /trac /usr/share/trac/htdocs
[03:55:08] <cmlenz> the docs for all this should be in /usr/share/trac/wiki-default BTW
[03:56:14] <Madeye> RESPECT :D
[03:56:17] <Madeye> I love you dude :-)
[03:56:25] <Madeye> and you know what, I'm falling in love with python
[03:56:40] <Madeye> it make more sense to convert from PHP to Python than Ruby
[03:57:26] <cmlenz> that probably depends on your background... both are nice
[03:59:42] <Madeye> Wel, I have BCS in political sience and Law :D but been working as php developer in the last 8 years
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[04:26:20] <blizz> soo.. will 1.4 work with trac 0.9.6 now? :-P
[04:32:49] <Marlun> How can I see all the available tickets for the webadmin component?
[04:34:53] <coderanger> on t.e.o?
[04:40:39] <Marlun> t.e.o?
[04:41:24] <coderanger> trac.edgewall.org
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[05:20:14] <Madeye> Where I can modify (add/remove) components, versions, list of people to assign ticket to in the ticket system ?
[05:21:13] <coderanger> the first to are done in trac-admin/WebAdmin
[05:21:36] <coderanger> For the third I assume you mean while using restrict_owner
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[05:22:52] <coderanger> Its based on entries in the session data table
[05:23:14] <coderanger> So make your users set an name and/or email in their settings
[05:46:30] <coderanger> Anyone named Thurner on here?
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[06:42:33] <kpanic> hi people, it is possible to make a 'view' of trac for a particular user of a repository by excluding one or more projects?
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[06:46:59] <coderanger> kpanic: Use subversion's authz system
[06:56:03] <kpanic> coderanger, ok, where do I put passwords related to users on authz file?
[06:56:12] <coderanger> You don't
[06:56:17] <coderanger> it authz, not authn
[06:56:56] <coderanger> Trac (and Subversion DAV) use HTTP authentication by default
[06:57:02] <coderanger> So you have to setup something on the server
[06:57:17] <coderanger> Pick any of the bazillion Apache authn modules available
[06:57:39] <kpanic> coderanger, k, so by htpasswd (base auth) is the first check, then there are the rules of authz I suppose
[06:58:01] <coderanger> Yes, for subversion that is
[06:58:08] <kpanic> coderanger, great! thanks
[06:58:19] <coderanger> Just make sure to set the path to the authz file in trac.ini
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[07:14:39] <kpanic> ok done. next question. and if I want to enable only the browser module for a user?
[07:15:16] <coderanger> its all controlled by permissions
[07:15:21] <coderanger> read the TracPermissions page
[07:15:23] <kpanic> ok
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[07:18:43] <exarkun> is the "wait for connection..." log message in trunk now really useful? I upgraded last night and this morning I have a log file filled with nothing but that message.
[07:25:54] <cmlenz> exarkun: http://trac.edgewall.org/changeset/3761
[07:26:32] <exarkun> heh, nice :)
[07:28:50] <coderanger> cmlenz: How does bitten know when to kick off a build?
[07:29:09] <cmlenz> it polls in a configurable interval
[07:30:20] <coderanger> hmm
[07:32:02] <coderanger> it seems to not be playing nicely with tracforge :(
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[07:33:26] <jfro> why can't i seem to do a query link with a group=milestone in it? i get a lamda got multiple value for keyword argument 'order'
[07:34:59] <jfro> maybe i need to upgrade :)
[07:35:20] <coderanger> silly me, forgot to hup apache O:-)
[07:36:48] <jfro> hmm, only fixed in beta it looks
[07:37:20] <cmlenz> jfro: you can use the syntax with the ? at the start of the link... check the TracQuery page that came with your version
[07:39:58] <jfro> hmm
[07:40:12] <jfro> oh!
[07:40:13] <jfro> thanks
[07:41:10] <jfro> fantastic, thanks :) that solved my dilema
[07:41:19] <cmlenz> np
[07:41:30] <jfro> back to work
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[07:59:49] <coderanger> cmlenz: Will the bitten unittest command work with setuptools?
[08:00:05] <cmlenz> yeah, it should
[08:00:14] <cmlenz> the one in trunk actually requires setuptools ATM
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[08:02:33] <coderanger> coolness
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[08:07:35] <coderanger> cmlenz: You should post Bitten to PyPI ;-)
[08:07:56] <cmlenz> yeah, and I should start hacking on it again in general, too :-P
[08:18:33] <kpanic> coderanger, succeded one hour~ ago, FYI tha again :)
[08:18:43] <kpanic> thx
[08:30:54] <coderanger> cmlenz: How do pass arguments using <python:distutils> ?
[08:31:09] <coderanger> since the unittest command seems to want a -s or -m option
[08:32:19] <coderanger> and the xml output path
[08:41:18] <coderanger> cmlenz: This needs a good bit of cleanup ;-)
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[08:57:49] <Mr_You> hi
[08:58:08] <Mr_You> anyone point or walk me through uninstalling the webadmin module.. seems I've installed it twice.
[08:58:25] <Mr_You> and whats holding up v0.10? ;-)
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[09:01:38] <Mr_You> it seems its broken my trac install, good thing its not in production but wanting it to be.
[09:02:01] <cmlenz> coderanger: patches *very* welcome ;-)
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[09:14:55] <Mr_You> so far looks like maybe I just remove the entry from easy-install.pth and then remove the egg file.
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[11:22:29] <coderanger_> I will post them as I figure out whats going wrong with it :P
[11:22:56] <coderanger_> cmlenz: It looks like some of the setuptools internals may have changed since you wrote some of this :)
[11:24:19] <cmlenz> the unittest command, or?
[11:24:35] <coderanger_> Yeah
[11:24:45] <cmlenz> bah
[11:25:05] <coderanger_> Otherwise I'm not sure how your example recipe would work
[11:25:08] <tigger^> .win 6
[11:25:10] <tigger^> oops :)
[11:26:01] <russ0519> can someone help me troubleshoot subversion-python bindings?
[11:26:08] <russ0519> they look like theyr'e installed properly
[11:26:23] <russ0519> but when i do import libsvn._core from python it says ImportError: No module named libsvn.core
[11:27:23] <coderanger_> "from svn import fs"
[11:30:31] <russ0519> ImportError: No module named svn
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[11:32:25] <coderanger_> So the bindings aren't installed
[11:32:49] <coderanger_> where are the files?
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[11:34:01] <russ0519> fdsasfda
[11:34:06] <russ0519> " /usr/local/lib/svn-python/libsvn"
[11:34:28] <russ0519> but i have a symlink in "/usr/local/lib/python2.4/site-packages"
[11:34:45] <pacopablo> don't symlink
[11:34:52] <russ0519> no?
[11:34:55] <coderanger_> either move them or use a .pth file
[11:35:00] <pacopablo> and I believe that you also need the svn dir also
[11:35:18] <russ0519> yes i have both symlinked
[11:35:33] <russ0519> i also had the path in /etc/ld.so.conf
[11:36:23] <coderanger_> I don't think python will traverse symlinks
[11:37:41] <russ0519> k, i copied them
[11:38:06] <russ0519> i still get ImportError: No module named libsvn._core
[11:39:40] <coderanger_> can you import svn?
[11:43:45] <russ0519> i think i figured part of it out
[11:44:09] <russ0519> for some reason python is looking in /usr/lib/python2.4/site-packages instead of /usr/local/lib
[11:44:21] <russ0519> i made the symlinks and now i get a different error ImportError: /usr/local/lib/libsvn_ra_dav-1.so.0: undefined symbol: SSL_load_error_strings
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[11:47:22] <coderanger_> russ0519: Thats where it is supposed to look
[11:47:42] <coderanger_> You do not need any symlinks anywhere to do this
[11:48:20] <russ0519> well it's obviously finding the libraries now... except now it doesn't like one of them
[11:49:29] <coderanger_> I would ask in #svn
[11:50:31] <russ0519> k, thanks... i'm already asking there... with not much help... but at least we got part of it figured out
[11:50:34] <russ0519> thanks for the help
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[13:18:02] <oversize> hello, i'm having troubles to login to trac. the passwd file is corrctly set up. The Auth somhow just fails with no usefull information in the apache or trac.log files. The aunothorized page is shown instead
[13:18:56] <oversize> whats straqnge is, it worked for about one time. i closed the browser and open it again and its not working anymore. i'm using trac 0.9.6 on a debian with apache2
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[13:41:43] <Mr_You> where's v0.10? need to setup a production trac with webadmin ;-)
[13:41:59] <LarstiQ> in the trunk I believe :P
[13:42:16] <Mr_You> heh
[13:42:30] <Mr_You> well in the news it says the release "is a few days away" ;-)
[13:49:46] <LarstiQ> is it yet a few days from now? No ;P
[13:49:53] <Mr_You> few weeks
[13:50:35] <LarstiQ> Mr_You: ah no, the mistake is that you take the point from where it is few days from as fixed in time.
[13:50:45] <LarstiQ> Mr_You: that should always be now().
[13:50:51] <Mr_You> huh?
[13:51:08] <pacopablo> it's always a few days away from today
[13:55:43] <Mr_You> they're usually pretty quick about releases so I guess something is holding it up.
[13:55:51] <russ0519> hey guys is anyone working on Ticket #3763
[13:56:05] <russ0519> i'm experiencing the same issue and wondering if there's a workaround
[13:56:12] <pacopablo> Mr_You: define pretty quick :)
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[13:58:50] <matt_good> Mr_You: an RC release is scheduled for tomorrow, final in a few days
[13:59:15] <oversize> anyone having login troubles with trac? my login screen is not showing up. the authentication just fails. the passwd file is correct. the logs dont say something usefull
[13:59:27] <matt_good> oversize: define "fails"
[13:59:38] <matt_good> specific error messages would help
[14:00:09] <oversize> well i end up with the unauthorized screen
[14:00:48] <matt_good> oversize: as in "you must have XXX permission", or what?
[14:00:54] <oversize> but, i'm not asked for the username:password by a login screen
[14:01:06] <oversize> no, when i want to login
[14:01:10] <oversize> i click login
[14:01:24] <oversize> and instead of asking for a user:pass i just get the unauth error
[14:01:46] <oversize> the passwd file is set up correct. owned by the apache2 user
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[14:01:58] <oversize> generated it with htpasswd
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[14:03:08] <matt_good> oversize: what is the *exact* error, not just "unauth error"
[14:03:30] <matt_good> a Trac page, Apache error page, browser dialog, ...
[14:03:42] <oversize> i turned on log_type to file but i dont get something more usefull then unauthed
[14:03:48] <oversize> i can pastebin the logs sec
[14:05:28] <matt_good> the logs may help, but I'm just asking for the actual text of the error message so I make sure I know exactly what you're referring to
[14:06:02] <oversize> http://pastebin.com/791517
[14:06:15] <Mr_You> matt: cool
[14:07:59] <oversize> matt: i dont have any more exact. i could post the vhost conf. but as trac itself is running perfectly it seems alright
[14:08:09] <matt_good> oversize: you need to remove the Apache setting ErrorPage IIRC for the 401 response
[14:08:17] <oversize> its just the login screen which is not showing up
[14:09:00] <matt_good> yes, you need to look in your apache config for "unauthorized.html" and comment out the line
[14:10:10] <matt_good> sorry it's ErrorDocument: http://trac.edgewall.org/ticket/2371
[14:11:04] <matt_good> or change it to ErrorDocument 401 default
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[14:13:55] <oversize> matt_good: perfect! thank you :)
[14:13:58] <oversize> works
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[14:19:26] <matt_good> russ0519: yeah, I'll try to address that shortly
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[14:20:11] <russ0519> that's matt
[14:20:17] <russ0519> i mean thanks matt
[14:20:21] <russ0519> i'm a bit out of it today
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[14:30:10] <matt_good> russ0519: ok, fixed
[14:31:17] <russ0519> so it's in the trunk?
[14:32:56] <russ0519> thanks matt_good, you're the man
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