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September 29, 2006

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[00:39:40] <prologic> Q: With a trac instance that has no anonymous access, is there a way to login without using the login form ?
[00:39:55] <prologic> So that I can authenticate and view the rss feed for a timeline or tickets
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[01:04:13] <benoitc> hi
[01:05:15] <benoitc> have the same pb from yesterday : http://project.archlinuxfr.org/login with this conf http://rafb.net/paste/results/G52c5i75.html
[01:05:37] <benoitc> if I remove TracEnv auth window is opened
[01:05:54] <benoitc> but trac doesn't work any more
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[01:13:38] <benoitc> any idee ?
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[01:24:56] <BladeHawke> benoitc: it *looks* like maybe the htpasswd file is missing or you have the auth mechanism disabled in trac.ini
[01:26:50] <benoitc> hmmm let me see in trac.ini :)
[01:29:12] <benoitc> how could it be disabled ?
[01:30:46] <BladeHawke> a line like "trac.web.auth.loginmodule = disabled" in the [components] section would do it
[01:32:21] <BladeHawke> Mine is disabled because I use a different auth mechanism using HTML forms.
[01:32:39] <benoitc> I've no such directive in mine
[01:32:48] <benoitc> weird
[01:33:35] <BladeHawke> does the web server user have read access to the .htpasswd file?
[01:34:28] <benoitc> yup
[01:34:50] <benoitc> in fact this like itd don't want to use /login because of python handler
[01:35:02] <benoitc> url ar only interpreted by this handler
[01:41:03] <BladeHawke> I'm at a loss to explain
[01:42:44] <benoitc> k thanks :)
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[02:08:13] <webs> Hello.
[02:08:26] <webs> I have a question about the trac_logo.png image: what is her licence ?
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[02:15:28] <prologic> webs, I belive it's also GPL
[02:15:32] <prologic> I've seen this question asked before
[02:16:18] <BladeHawke> Thought it was more BSD-style, but either way, attributable open source.
[02:16:30] <prologic> indeed
[02:16:35] <webs> Okay :)
[02:16:42] <webs> It's for the French Wikipedia :)
[02:16:48] <BalchD> Hi, What function do I need to make Trac convert wiki-markup->HTML in a plugin? I've seen docs, but can't find it now :-(
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[02:20:06] <sjamaan> hey
[02:20:20] <sjamaan> I tried to upgrade trac on our debian system, but now I get this error:
[02:20:25] <sjamaan> Trac detected an internal error:
[02:20:26] <sjamaan> 'module' object has no attribute 'cgi_start'
[02:20:26] <sjamaan> Traceback (most recent call last):
[02:20:26] <sjamaan> File "/usr/lib/cgi-bin/justbookit/trac.cgi", line 25, in ?
[02:20:26] <sjamaan> trac.core.cgi_start()
[02:20:28] <sjamaan> AttributeError: 'module' object has no attribute 'cgi_start'
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[02:23:19] <Getty> trac by debian package?
[02:23:23] <sjamaan> no
[02:23:26] <sjamaan> From source
[02:23:27] <Getty> ok
[02:23:28] <Getty> ok
[02:23:30] <sjamaan> Debian is ooollllddd
[02:23:33] <sjamaan> 0.8 or sth
[02:23:39] <Getty> no its 0.9 but its not working ;)
[02:23:53] <Getty> i installed the package, and then replaced the installed directories by hand with the source versions
[02:24:08] <Getty> that works perfect fine, you got it all in debian paths and also have fresh version, nothing is more easy then this on trac
[02:24:15] * Getty <3 TRAC
[02:25:36] <sjamaan> cannot import name http_date
[02:25:39] <sjamaan> Now I'm getting this
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[02:36:57] <sjamaan> I would like to install the web admin plugin, but I can only use version 0.8.1 of trac
[02:37:01] <sjamaan> Is this possible?
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[02:54:26] <BladeHawke> opinion request for anyone still awake. I picked up a 6 month stale ticket on a macro on track-hacks and converted it to a plugin along the way. Do I submit a diff against the stale macro or open a new hack since the format has changed?
[02:58:15] <Getty> i have no idea, but new is always cool ;) just a guess
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[03:01:58] <Ton|o> hi everyone
[03:02:43] <Ton|o> is there someone that can help me with trac authentication ?
[03:05:45] <tuxipuxi> anybody here using the tinymce plugin?
[03:09:01] <asmodai> BladeHawke: Good question. I guess a new hack. But I guess someone like alect can be clear about it
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[03:11:01] <benoitc> hum http://trac.edgewall.org/ticket/3821
[03:11:20] <tuxipuxi> http://trac-hacks.org/browser/tinymcewikiplugin/0.9/tinymcewiki/tinymcewiki.py guess this plugin won't work well with 0.10? ;-)
[03:12:36] <Ton|o> so ill exposed my problem, ive set up a multi-project site with trac, all seems to work fine but authentication, i got "authentication information not available". My apache directive are allright, I access a project with the url /RdM and my location directive is <Location /RdM/login>
[03:13:04] <Ton|o> and the htpasswd exist and contains one user with trac_admin rights set via trac-admin
[03:13:15] <Ton|o> so ...... where I look now ?
[03:13:37] <BladeHawke> That sounds quite similar to benoitc's issue
[03:14:19] <BladeHawke> This is with 0.10 final?
[03:14:49] <Ton|o> yep isntalled uesterday, with apache 2.0.53
[03:14:53] <Ton|o> and mod_python
[03:15:49] <Ton|o> mod_python 3.2.3
[03:17:50] <BalchD> Nevermind, I found it. wiki_to_html()
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[03:20:44] <sjamaan> solide04:~# easy_install tracadmin.egg.zip
[03:20:44] <sjamaan> Processing tracadmin.egg.zip
[03:20:44] <sjamaan> error: Couldn't find a setup script in tracadmin.egg.zip
[03:20:51] <sjamaan> What do I do now
[03:20:52] <sjamaan> ?
[03:21:08] <sjamaan> I got it from http://trac.edgewall.org/wiki/WebAdmin
[03:22:13] <BladeHawke> take the .zip extension off and just put the egg in your plugins directory.
[03:22:40] <sjamaan> Why does it look at the extension?
[03:22:47] <sjamaan> Thanks, that worked
[03:23:17] <BladeHawke> easy_install is for source distributions, that's a pre-packaged binary
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[03:25:28] <sjamaan> Finally I have a half-decent Trac setup :)
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[03:47:59] <tuxipuxi> cmlenz, could you please have a quick look at http://trac-hacks.org/browser/tinymcewikiplugin/0.9/tinymcewiki/tinymcewiki.py with your trac dev eyes and tell me how much needs to be changed to work with 0.10? :-)
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[03:49:22] <cmlenz> I don't see any obvious problems
[03:49:46] <cmlenz> but you know that's not the place the devil usually hides ;-)
[03:50:12] <tuxipuxi> cmlenz, what about the util imports? it says from trac.util import enum, escape, format_datetime, get_reporter_id ... ImportError: cannot import name enum
[03:50:36] <cmlenz> oh right
[03:50:48] <cmlenz> it needs to just use the builtin python function enumerate() instead of enum()
[03:51:16] <tuxipuxi> and i suppose escape, format_datetime and get_reporter_id have been moved to one of the files in util/?
[03:58:58] <tuxipuxi> hm nope
[03:59:48] <cmlenz> those should still work
[04:01:58] <tuxipuxi> ok i'll try then.. and bother you again if it doesn't work ;)
[04:02:00] <tuxipuxi> thanks
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[04:24:52] <jenner> heya
[04:25:22] <jenner> guys, is anyone using the AccountManagerPlugin? Its group management seems to be broken...
[04:26:27] <alect> i am using it on th
[04:27:12] <jenner> now, wait, it's just me beeing dumb :)
[04:27:59] <BladeHawke> Heya, alect. Quick question. I picked up a 6 month stale ticket on a macro on track-hacks and converted it to a plugin along the way. Do I submit a diff against the stale macro or open a new hack since the format has changed?
[04:28:19] <alect> blackhex: what macro?
[04:28:30] <alect> tocmacro got converted to a plugin, but kept the same name
[04:28:51] <BladeHawke> LastModified
[04:29:23] <BladeHawke> Not a big deal either way, just want to make sure I submit properly
[04:29:36] <alect> i'd do the diff
[04:29:50] <alect> if they don't want to maintain it, ask them if you can have commit access to their thingy
[04:29:58] <alect> and get them to cc me on the response
[04:30:07] <BladeHawke> kk
[04:33:04] <jenner> Hm, is there a way to redirect anonymous users to AccountManager's login page by default? I'd like to have a "locked" trac
[04:51:42] <jenner> E.g. so that trac would just go to site/login instead of showing the "Forbidden" error message (if I removed WIKI_VIEW from anonymous that is)
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[04:56:55] <jenner> Ah, s/raise HTTPForbidden(to_unicode(e))/req.redirect(req.href.login())/ solved it :)
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[05:14:38] <benoitc> humpfff i don't understand why this fucking window doesn't appar grrr
[05:14:43] <benoitc> 6 hours for nothing
[05:14:49] <benoitc> http://trac.edgewall.org/ticket/3821
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[05:26:17] <cmlenz> benoitc: is that after upgrading from 0.9 to 0.10?
[05:26:38] <benoitc> no fresh install of 0.10
[05:26:49] <benoitc> why ?
[05:26:58] <cmlenz> so why do you say "I change nothing" ?
[05:27:08] <benoitc> it change nothing
[05:27:12] <cmlenz> ah
[05:27:15] <cmlenz> :-)
[05:27:15] <benoitc> hmpff gorgot a t
[05:27:37] <cmlenz> still, this is outside of the trac domain, as *apache* throws up the dialog, not trac
[05:28:02] <cmlenz> so the ticket should've stayed closed, and you can try to get support here or on the mailing list
[05:28:11] <benoitc> hum
[05:28:31] <benoitc> I thought that was trac that send the authentification message to apache ?
[05:28:49] <benoitc> in do_auth function ?
[05:28:58] <cmlenz> no, that's what you need the <Location /login> for
[05:29:10] <benoitc> hum
[05:29:28] <cmlenz> trac only does authenticated if you use tracd
[05:29:30] <benoitc> so how coul apache know that it should not let python handler on this ul ?
[05:29:41] <benoitc> ic
[05:29:58] <cmlenz> the config looks okay to me
[05:30:10] <cmlenz> the auth stuff is applied before passing on to any handler
[05:30:22] <benoitc> should be so :)
[05:30:33] <benoitc> i don't underd what's wrong in it
[05:31:27] <benoitc> this is like apache don't send auth window
[05:32:00] <cmlenz> yeah, it's weird
[05:32:10] <benoitc> and auth_basic is loaded
[05:34:23] <benoitc> this is with mod_python only. When I remove python handler or make a python error, window is loaded
[05:34:36] <benoitc> ok let me see with mod python guys
[05:35:53] <benoitc> thx anyway :)
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[05:57:31] <feindbild> hi =)
[05:58:15] <feindbild> how do I get trac to 'reload' the svn log message for a revision after I changed it ?
[06:05:26] <jenner> Can I define a permission for a plugin? I have this MavenPlugin and would like to show the link and all pages underneath /maven/ only to authenticated users
[06:08:49] <s0undt3ch> feindbild: trac-admin /env/ resync
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[06:49:29] <s0undt3ch> jenner: not unless maven defines it's own perms I think
[06:51:11] <jenner> s0undt3ch: err, no, the plugin is merely a "proxy" that renders a site generated by maven in context of trac and adds a "maven" link to the top navigation bar
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[06:58:06] <s0undt3ch> jenner: then maybe it's time for you to summit a patch for the maven plug?
[06:58:41] <jenner> s0undt3ch: yep, as soon as I find out how to define permissions for components :)
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[06:59:52] <s0undt3ch> implement IPermissionRequestor -> here's how I do it -> http://wikitemplates.ufsoft.org/browser/trunk/WikiTemplates/web_ui.py#L105
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[07:02:44] <jenner> s0undt3ch: ah, thanks
[07:03:33] <s0undt3ch> jenner: np, dont forget also the implements(....)
[07:05:54] <jenner> s0undt3ch: just curious - trac has an own implementation of the interface stuff, right? I mean it doesn't use the one provided by e.g. zope3?
[07:06:28] <s0undt3ch> jenner: yes, trac does not use any zope stuff(I think)
[07:07:06] <cmlenz> jenner: right... it's also quite a bit different and much simpler than zope.interface
[07:07:31] <jenner> cmlenz: I see
[07:07:54] <s0undt3ch> jenner: k, now you got a dev's attention, he can answer all your questions :)
[07:08:00] <jenner> :))
[07:08:04] <s0undt3ch> much better than I could
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[07:23:31] <gmcinnes> :( trac is giving me 500 Internal Server Error messages, and although log level is set to DEBUG I don't see any evil in there. Any ideas how I'd get some transparency as to what's going wrong?
[07:24:54] <idnar> are you using mod_python?
[07:25:00] <jenner> gmcinnes: check your error.log if you're running trac with mod_python
[07:25:26] <idnar> try apache2ctl stop; sleep 5; apache2ctl start
[07:25:28] <gmcinnes> no. its fcgi, not mod_python.
[07:25:32] <idnar> ah
[07:25:41] <gmcinnes> And its on a shared host, so I don't have control of apache. :(
[07:25:49] <idnar> checking the apache error log would still help, though
[07:26:15] <gmcinnes> It says 'unexpected end of headers' or some such thing, which I take it to mean the fcgi process died before it started.
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[07:58:51] <jenner> Hm, I wonder if the idea of creatign a java doclet which would render the API docs as wiki source has already striked somebody else's mind :)
[07:59:37] <s0undt3ch> jenner: why java?
[08:00:39] <s0undt3ch> jenner: have you seen pudge? mybe you can extend it to output wiki, but plain html it there
[08:01:35] <jenner> s0undt3ch: 'cos I'm using trac for a java project
[08:02:09] <s0undt3ch> jenner: then nevermind, pudge is for python projects :)
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[08:03:00] <jenner> whoa http://www.jhorman.org/wikidoclet/
[08:03:42] <jenner> err, bummer, that's for wiki-style markup inside javadoc comments
[08:04:14] <s0undt3ch> he he he
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[08:20:19] <benoitc> anyone know if there is a way to force apache to first manage authentification then use python handeler
[08:20:28] <benoitc> always teh same pb
[08:22:08] <benoitc> but when I connect to http://projet.archlinuxfr.org/login with apache 2.2.3
[08:22:16] <benoitc> i hav ethis error
[08:22:46] <coderanger> benoitc: Please verify the AuthUsersFile exists
[08:22:56] <benoitc> it exist
[08:23:02] <benoitc> hmm maybe should i recreate it
[08:23:04] <coderanger> Not the directive, the file itself
[08:23:39] <coderanger> Also check that Apache isnt chrooted
[08:23:54] <benoitc> it isn't
[08:23:57] <benoitc> just suexec
[08:24:45] <benoitc> ok even when i recreate the .htpasswd file I have the same error
[08:26:08] <benoitc> istart to think it's related to a bug in apache 2.2.3 :\
[08:28:02] <coderanger> Is there anything in the Apache error log?
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[08:28:13] <coderanger> andhave you tried setting "PythonDebug on"
[08:28:26] <benoitc> jsut that [Fri Sep 29 17:23:21 2006] [notice] mod_python: (Re)importing module 'trac.web.modpython_frontend'
[08:28:37] <benoitc> and PythonDevug on is set yes
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[08:35:14] <benoitc> hum i love such problems :)
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[08:37:24] <coderanger> What version of m_py are you using?
[08:37:47] <coderanger> Prior to 3.2.10 isnt backwards compaptible with the 2.0 API (that Trac uses) I think
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[08:43:00] <tuxipuxi> does any of you know of popular trac plugins which are not yet compatible with 0.10?
[08:45:32] <coderanger> PeerReview
[08:46:15] <coderanger> The original authors refused to continue maintenece, so I tried doing a basic port
[08:46:26] <coderanger> but theres a few weird bugs stiff
[08:46:30] <coderanger> er, still
[08:48:57] <benoitc> coderanger: I use 3.2.10
[08:49:13] <benoitc> err 3.2.8 patched currently
[08:49:46] <tuxipuxi> coderanger, thanks. any others?
[08:50:06] <coderanger> tuxipuxi: Thats all I've run into
[08:50:17] <coderanger> benoitc: I would try .10
[08:50:19] <tuxipuxi> coderanger, do you happen to know about graphviz?
[08:50:33] <coderanger> tuxipuxi: Never used it
[08:50:38] <tuxipuxi> ok, thanks
[08:50:39] <pacopablo> worked on slightly earlier versions of trunk
[08:50:44] <pacopablo> graphviz that is
[08:51:44] <benoitc> k let me try
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[08:52:11] <benoitc> change nothing :(
[08:52:14] <tuxipuxi> thanks pacopablo
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[08:52:39] <benoitc> grmpff
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[08:54:43] <coderanger> benoitc: Have you asked in #apache?
[08:54:51] <benoitc> yes
[08:54:59] <benoitc> and thy asked me if I asked here ;)
[08:55:14] <coderanger> HTTP auth isn't Trac related
[08:55:14] <benoitc> anyway will find it :) thanks for your help
[08:58:28] <jenner> is there a way to import wiki pages into trac wiki (from text files)?
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[09:14:24] <s0undt3ch> jenner: http://wikitemplates.ufsoft.org/browser/trunk/WikiTemplates/upgrades/db1.py#L74
[09:16:18] <jenner> s0undt3ch: merci
[09:16:18] <s0undt3ch> jenner: that's how my plug does it, but no there's no alread made way, you'd have to write your script/plugin to do it
[09:17:09] <s0undt3ch> jenner: np
[09:17:48] <s0undt3ch> jenner: still on that javadoclet thingy :)
[09:19:01] <jenner> s0undt3ch: yep :)
[09:20:23] <s0undt3ch> jenner: I'm shure other ppl would love a plug that extracted and showed a java project's documetation, following me :)
[09:20:47] <jenner> s0undt3ch: there's the AurigaDoclet project which basically creates an xml representation of the api docs and applies an FO filter to generate html/pdf/svg/pcl/whatever... looks quite nice, but it hasn't bee ntouched for over two years now, so I guess there's no java5 support
[09:20:55] <s0undt3ch> ie, would be a nice adition to the the already huge plug list ;)
[09:21:38] <s0undt3ch> jenner: why do good starts tend to stop or idle :)
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[09:24:05] <jenner> s0undt3ch: well, I guess this audriga company lost interest in developing FOSS software :)
[09:25:57] <jenner> omg, a 2000 lines xslt stylesheet
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[09:34:43] <jenner> is there a way to create an anchor in trac wiki? e.g. so that the rendered html would be <a href="#below">see below</a> ..... <a name="below"><a/>?
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[09:35:48] <s0undt3ch> jenner: =H1 Heading=#With_an_anchor
[09:36:01] <s0undt3ch> I think
[09:37:06] <s0undt3ch> [wiki:APage]#anchor also
[09:37:11] <s0undt3ch> or
[09:37:17] <s0undt3ch> [wiki:APage#anchor]
[09:37:23] <jenner> ah, ok, thanks
[09:37:26] <s0undt3ch> try, I can't remember
[09:37:44] <jenner> "= foo =#my-fixed-id" works for headings
[09:38:02] <s0undt3ch> thought so :)
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[09:54:25] <benoitc> mmm I installed AccountManager but I don't see any login menu. My conf : http://www.rafb.net/paste/results/JQMft420.html
[09:54:47] <benoitc> what could be the problem ?
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[10:31:28] <gmcinnes> hi all. how can I find out what version of trac I have?
[10:31:59] <pacopablo> usually it's in the bottom left corner near the trac logo
[10:32:07] <cbrake> I'm getting "Command failed: cannot import name DatabaseManager" when trying to install tracdiscussion -- any ideas?
[10:32:31] <cbrake> error occurs when I run trac-admin <project> upgrade
[10:32:34] <pacopablo> cbrake: what version of trac are you using?
[10:32:36] <gmcinnes> pacopablo: oh yeah. 0.10dev. Is there any way to find out what trac-post-commit-hook goes with that? :(
[10:33:13] <pacopablo> gmcinnes: unless you have the svn source tree still, not exaclt
[10:33:16] <pacopablo> er, exactly
[10:33:29] <pacopablo> however, the post-commit-hook for 0.10 should work
[10:33:43] <gmcinnes> pacopablo: I have a feeling it doesn't. but i'll try again.
[10:33:55] <pacopablo> how did you install trac?
[10:33:57] <cbrake> pacopablo: 0.9.6
[10:34:02] <gmcinnes> pacopablo: from source.
[10:34:24] <cbrake> pacopablo: guess I should be running 0.10 ..
[10:34:40] <pacopablo> gmcinnes: then if you still have the source, just get the post-commit-hook from the contrib directory
[10:34:46] <pacopablo> cbrake: I think you need to
[10:34:55] <cbrake> pacopablo: ok thanks
[10:35:36] <gmcinnes> pacopablo: duh :) yeah. I'll give that a go.
[10:37:25] <gmcinnes> pacopablo: it complains thusly: pysqlite2.dbapi2.OperationalError: unsupported file format
[10:38:31] <pacopablo> that looks like a problem with your sqlite db
[10:38:41] <pacopablo> not with the post-commit directly
[10:38:48] <pacopablo> doe syour trac site work?
[10:38:56] <gmcinnes> pacopablo: I assume that's cause my db is sqlite3 and the hook script wants 2?
[10:39:02] <gmcinnes> pacopablo: yes. trac site works fine.
[10:39:34] <pacopablo> gmcinnes: it might be that the post-commit hook doesn't have the right python path and is loading the wrong sqlite bindings
[10:39:51] <pacopablo> do you have multiple bindings for sqlite installeD
[10:39:52] <pacopablo> ?
[10:40:09] * gmcinnes goes to check.
[10:40:51] <gmcinnes> pacopablo: yes. it appears I do.
[10:41:03] <gmcinnes> libsqlite and libsqlite3
[10:43:21] <gmcinnes> pacopablo: ah ha! If I set LD_LIBRARY_PATH it works.
[10:47:35] <benoitc> http://trac-hacks.org/ticket/747
[10:47:46] <benoitc> have problem with AccountManager
[10:53:03] <marienz> benoitc: wild guess: using an older version of AccountManager with a newer version of trac?
[10:54:15] <benoitc> mmm I use trac 0.10 and last trunk
[10:54:19] <benoitc> but maybe
[10:54:26] <benoitc> how to know it ?
[10:54:35] <marienz> benoitc: according to http://trac-hacks.org/wiki/AccountManagerPlugin password_store is what you use with trac 0.10 and password_format is for trac 0.9, and there are separate branches for AccountManager for 0.10 and 0.9
[10:54:46] <gmcinnes> pacopablo: can you think of any way to get the hook script to output where its crashing? when I run it from the command line it works, but from svn it fails silently.
[10:55:08] <marienz> benoitc: are you 100% positively absolutely sure the AccountManager it is picking up (see those paths in the traceback) is the version for 0.10?
[10:55:44] <pacopablo> gmcinnes: not really, I haven't had to debug those scripts, they have just worked(tm) for me
[10:56:09] <benoitc> i just saw in cache that it use 0.1.2 and not 0.1.2dev
[10:56:18] <benoitc> how to remove all version installed
[10:56:32] <benoitc> (I thought it will use the plugins version)
[10:56:38] <gmcinnes> pacopablo: grrr. that's what everyone says
[10:56:45] <marienz> benoitc: I don't really know what criteria it uses to update that cache, but since it is a cache I'd simply move the entire directory away and restart trac.
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[10:57:14] <marienz> benoitc: and yes, afaik it *should* automagically refresh the cache if what's in the plugin dir is more up to date (does so here if I restart trac)
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