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October 06, 2006

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[01:19:10] <asmodai> cmlenz: update your blog! :P har har
[01:21:00] <cmlenz> nah, that would require writing :-P
[01:22:31] <asmodai> haha
[01:23:35] <cmlenz> although I could do another framework rant, those are easy and popular :-P
[01:24:44] <mooch> hi
[01:24:55] <mooch> i was describing a problem with trac under sarge yesterday
[01:24:57] <mooch> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25792/
[01:26:46] <sgorilla1> cmlenz: what is your blog?
[01:27:05] <cmlenz> www.cmlenz.net
[01:28:55] <cmlenz> mooch: looks like an old version of trac.web.main ?
[01:29:40] <sgorilla1> i like keyboard shortcuts on web pages
[01:31:15] <cmlenz> mooch: dispatch_request() took 3 args in 0.9.x, but 2 in 0.10
[01:32:02] <mooch> trac.web.main comes with trac, right?
[01:32:19] <mooch> so if i install trac 0.10, it should have the new one...;
[01:33:27] <cmlenz> well, apparently it doesn't
[01:33:35] <cmlenz> otherwise you wouldn't be getting that error
[01:33:37] <cmlenz> ;-)
[01:33:46] <cmlenz> (it does come with trac, of course)
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[01:39:33] <mooch> is it possible that the tar.gz in the web page is fscked up?
[01:39:41] <mooch> because i got the 0.10 package from the trac page
[01:40:01] <sgorilla1> do an md5 on it
[01:40:59] <mooch> eitin:~/sources/trac# md5sum trac_0.10.orig.tar.gz trac-0.10.tar.gz
[01:41:00] <mooch> 36c4ed1dee4709442cf9f3ac8891e8c7 trac_0.10.orig.tar.gz
[01:41:00] <mooch> 36c4ed1dee4709442cf9f3ac8891e8c7 trac-0.10.tar.gz
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[01:49:47] <mooch> i am using the one from upstream and installing it on a clean environment... yet i get that problem...
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[01:50:59] <mooch> also, i wonder why the files dont have some $Rev$ entries to identify them easily ;)
[01:53:18] <cmlenz> mooch: I just checked in the download... it contains the correct version of trac/web/main.py
[01:59:32] <mooch> cmlenz: i am just checking it again... everything
[02:03:19] <mooch> it seems to be the right onw...
[02:03:21] <mooch> one, even
[02:03:28] <mooch> but why the fsck it breaks?
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[02:12:44] <cmlenz> maybe a stale pyc that doesn't get overwritten or sth?
[02:13:17] <cmlenz> do `python -c "from trac.web import main; print main.__file__"
[02:20:54] <mooch> got it
[02:21:14] <mooch> cmlenz: it is the global config
[02:21:41] <mooch> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25796/
[02:21:46] <mooch> with that does not work
[02:22:00] <mooch> if i set it as a uniq project, it works
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[02:28:00] <mooch> oukey
[02:28:03] <mooch> got it working...
[02:28:24] <mooch> PEBKAC
[02:33:15] <cmlenz> ?
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[02:43:08] <omry> how do I prevent wiki resolving of [stuff] ?
[02:49:02] <alect> ![stuff]
[02:50:32] <omry> hmm, let me try
[02:58:46] <omry> I think I figured out http://trac.edgewall.org/ticket/3779
[02:58:54] <omry> although I am having problems to work around it.
[02:59:29] <omry> I believe its causd because I have this in a ticket:
[02:59:35] <omry> Query [3] -- [CREATE TABLE IF NOT EXISTS wp_firestats_hits ( id INTEGER PRIMARY KEY AUTO_INCREMENT , ip VARCHAR(40) NOT NULL DEFAULT 'unknown' , timestamp DATETIME NOT NULL , url_id INTEGER , referer_id INTEGER , useragent_id INTEGER , session_id VARCHAR(30) , user_id INTEGER default NULL , excluded_by_user TINYINT(1) DEFAULT 0 , excluded_ip TINYINT(1) DEFAULT 0 , excluded_user TINYINT(1) DEFAULT 0 , UNIQUE(ip,timestamp,url_id,referer_id,usera
[02:59:35] <omry> gent_id) ) ENGINE=InnoDB]
[02:59:48] <omry> there is a huge [stuff] here, which makes trac go berserk.
[03:00:34] <omry> berserk = crunching the cpu for a minute.
[03:01:33] <omry> even if I replace the [stuff] with <stuff> its still takes a minute to open that ticket.
[03:01:49] <omry> maybe because [stuff] is still in the history?
[03:02:28] <asmodai> cmlenz: wil you augment trac's about page with a genshi logo? :P
[03:02:43] <cmlenz> nah
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[03:02:57] <asmodai> boo!
[03:02:59] <asmodai> Hiss!
[03:03:01] <cmlenz> else we'd have to do that for every dependency
[03:03:03] <cmlenz> :-P
[03:03:03] <asmodai> :D
[03:03:10] <asmodai> but but but, this is important :P
[03:03:16] <omry> how do I permanently destroy a ticket?
[03:03:33] <asmodai> I just updated trac.tendra.org to todays genshi and trac svn trunks of about 30 minutes ago
[03:04:27] <asmodai> mmm
[03:04:34] <asmodai> TracIni wiki page has:
[03:04:39] <asmodai> The global configuration is by default localted
[03:05:04] <alect> evening
[03:05:08] <alect> hey asmodai :)
[03:05:09] <asmodai> Seems to have been introduced in the last change to TracIni
[03:05:11] <asmodai> hey alec
[03:05:14] <asmodai> How's tricks?
[03:06:34] <asmodai> aha
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[03:06:39] <asmodai> cboos fault
[03:06:48] <asmodai> http://trac.edgewall.org/changeset?new=trunk%2Fwiki-default%2FTracIni%403810&old=trunk%2Fwiki-default%2FTracIni%403765
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[03:35:02] <omry> how can I nuke a ticket from the database?
[03:42:09] <asmodai> omry: TicketDelete
[03:42:10] <asmodai> or
[03:42:18] <asmodai> trac-admin: ticket remove NUMBER
[03:42:44] <omry> asmodai, I already found an alternative way to remove it at the last comment here:
[03:42:45] <omry> http://trac.edgewall.org/ticket/298
[03:42:57] <omry> directly via the db.
[03:43:01] <asmodai> ick
[03:43:04] <omry> seemed to work.
[03:43:21] <omry> deleteing the ticket solved my problem.
[03:43:52] <omry> its a serious issue: everyone can render the reporting system useless.
[03:44:06] <omry> just put a ticket with a long message inside [brackets]
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[04:14:46] <hiteck> hi to all
[04:14:49] <alect> not bad asmodai
[04:14:54] <alect> (belated response)
[04:14:57] <asmodai> alect: Good ta hear
[04:15:01] <alect> how you doing?
[04:15:03] <asmodai> alect: How's work?
[04:15:16] <hiteck> someone can help me for mysqldb???
[04:15:17] <alect> work has been good :)
[04:15:22] <asmodai> alect: Pretty well, busy with working on my new appartment (flat/condo/whatever you wanna call it)
[04:15:29] <alect> ooh, buy or rent?
[04:15:30] <asmodai> hiteck: just state your problem
[04:15:32] <asmodai> alect: bought it
[04:15:58] <alect> very nice
[04:15:59] <hiteck> trac-admin project initenv
[04:16:00] <asmodai> alect: about 94 m^2, costs about EUR 184000
[04:16:00] <alect> how many bedrooms?
[04:16:06] <alect> where?
[04:16:13] <hiteck> i seleck mySQL
[04:16:18] <asmodai> alect: http://www.in-nomine.org/~asmodai/blueprint.jpg - in Barendrecht , the Netherlands
[04:16:54] <hiteck> but i got error like not found mysqldb
[04:17:28] <hiteck> Failed to create environment. No module named MySQLdb
[04:17:37] <asmodai> hiteck: Did you install the Python MySQLdb module?
[04:17:59] <alect> very cool asmodai
[04:18:04] <alect> this your first place?
[04:18:05] <asmodai> Python needs a database driver to communicate with the MySQL database
[04:18:08] <asmodai> alect: Nah, second.
[04:18:14] <hiteck> eheh obvs no
[04:18:15] <asmodai> alect: had an appartment before in Rijswijk, NL
[04:18:16] <alect> ah old hand :)
[04:18:26] <asmodai> alect: Yeah, but that was a building from 1930 or so
[04:18:31] <asmodai> alect: this is brand-spanking new
[04:18:41] <hiteck> can i find link on trac site???
[04:19:20] <asmodai> hiteck: http://sourceforge.net/projects/mysql-python
[04:19:25] <asmodai> Should be it AFAIK
[04:20:12] <asmodai> alect: did wall prepping last week, my parents are wallpapering with glass weave wallpaper now (mom's a star at wallpapering)
[04:20:30] <asmodai> alect: will then paint the wallpaper (we call it sausen) with my selected colour
[04:20:41] <asmodai> alect: then put in a wood-like floor, called laminaat
[04:20:57] <asmodai> alect: Which I order last evening, bleeping EUR 2100 :S
[04:20:58] <hiteck> tx 100000 asmodai
[04:21:02] <asmodai> hiteck: np
[04:21:07] <asmodai> hiteck: Prego
[04:21:24] <hiteck> ciao allora
[04:22:14] <alect> hehe
[04:22:19] <alect> cool :)
[04:22:27] <alect> i have a floating wood floor in my place
[04:22:29] <alect> it is quite nice
[04:22:56] <asmodai> ahh, I think that's the same thing
[04:23:19] <asmodai> alect: it's not quite real wood right? But a bit MDF like and made to look like a real wooden floor?
[04:23:36] <alect> yeah, though it will often have a narrow strip of real wood on the top
[04:23:40] <alect> but the rest of it is mdf
[04:23:50] <alect> slots together like lego
[04:23:54] <asmodai> *nod*
[04:23:56] <asmodai> Right.
[04:24:06] <asmodai> We call that laminaat here
[04:24:18] <asmodai> Nowadays it has V groves on the top part
[04:24:18] <alect> i expect photos once you're done :)
[04:24:21] <asmodai> so it feels more like wood
[04:24:26] <alect> aah
[04:24:53] <asmodai> alect: I took some photos of the house and the wooden stuff: http://gallery.in-nomine.org/v/house/
[04:27:20] <alect> brand new doesn't quite cover it :)
[04:28:52] <alect> that is cool, good luck with it
[04:29:05] <asmodai> alect: thankee
[04:29:08] <asmodai> alect: yeah, lots to do
[04:29:15] <asmodai> the missus is coming down half November
[04:29:58] <asmodai> alect: So, what's happening in your corner of the world? :)
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[04:30:31] <alect> similar actually, new place, new job, new girl
[04:30:35] <alect> it's hectic :)
[04:30:53] <alect> still buying furniture though :\
[04:30:57] <alect> slowwwwwly
[04:31:02] <asmodai> new girl? oh?
[04:31:14] <alect> google girl! :)
[04:31:29] <asmodai> ahh, met her at google eh
[04:31:31] <alect> where's your missus at the moment?
[04:31:40] <alect> yeah
[04:31:48] <asmodai> She's in Japan
[04:32:05] <alect> ah is that her in your gallery? Ai?
[04:32:26] <asmodai> yea
[04:32:29] <asmodai> that's my love
[04:32:41] <alect> :)
[04:33:00] <alect> how long has she been gone for?
[04:33:47] <asmodai> she lives in Japan (although in Chile for a number of years as well)
[04:34:36] <alect> ah, that must be hard?
[04:34:45] <asmodai> Well, at times, yes ;)
[04:35:02] <asmodai> was there last year oct/nov, then she here in dec/jan, me in apr/may
[04:35:16] <asmodai> and she's coming for about 3 months now or already permanent, need to see
[04:35:27] <alect> sweet :)
[04:35:33] <asmodai> yeah, finally :D
[04:37:17] <asmodai> Mmm
[04:37:25] <asmodai> seems that Perl is no longer the ducttape of the internet
[04:37:28] <asmodai> PHP took over
[04:37:32] <alect> dear god
[04:37:44] <alect> where did you read that?
[04:38:07] <asmodai> http://www.unixreview.com/documents/s=7750/sam0301m/
[04:38:26] <asmodai> I seriously dislike perl with a passion
[04:38:48] <alect> same
[04:38:54] <alect> similarly, php
[04:38:56] <asmodai> Why isn't there a Wordpress clone, but in Python or so?
[04:39:08] <asmodai> alect: PHP is merely Perl for the Intarweb ;)
[04:39:21] <alect> except worse
[04:39:34] <asmodai> haha, true.
[04:39:52] <asmodai> I really should start hacking on a gallery replacement using Python
[04:41:30] <mooch> asmodai: or use apache gallery
[04:41:36] <tuxipuxi> asmodai, wanna help me with my trac rewrite in php first?
[04:42:00] <mooch> trac in php... sweet
[04:42:10] <tuxipuxi> you see, we got one supporter already
[04:42:54] <alect> if by "sweet" you mean "perverse"!
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[04:46:40] <tuxipuxi> :) just kidding
[04:46:51] <alect> hehe
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[04:48:30] <Sebastian> Does Trac 0.10 support the new repository format of Subversion 1.4? I did not find information about this in http://trac.edgewall.org/wiki/TracDev/ReleaseNotes/0.10.
[04:53:38] <asmodai> Should.
[04:54:23] <asmodai> I mean, the change happened only on the fsfs/db layer, so when using the normal APIs to approach repositories I doubt it wouldn't keep working.
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[06:58:11] <hiteck> ciao a tutti
[06:59:58] <hiteck> c'�ualcuno che ha la voglia di aiutarmi nell'installazione di trac?
[06:59:59] <hiteck> Hi All. Can anyone give me one hand to run trac correctly???
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