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[00:11:29] <zylo> Hello
[00:11:37] <zylo> Anyone here know about Yucon?
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[00:15:21] <pacopablo> what's yucon?
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[00:16:45] <coderanger> user-mode linux console manager
[00:16:57] <coderanger> Or at least thats what google says
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[00:17:14] <pacopablo> bah! what does google know? :0
[00:18:13] <coderanger> Time for the sleepifying :)
[00:22:29] <cmlenz> http://sayspy.blogspot.com/2006/10/looks-like-we-will-be-going-with.html
[00:27:09] <pacopablo> night all
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[00:58:13] <Marlun> Does Trac work good with lighttpd?
[00:59:02] <weigon> at least trac.lighttpd.net uses it
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[02:17:13] <asmodai> weigon: Nice to see you here :)
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[02:44:26] <groton> hello all
[02:44:50] <m_g> hey groton
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[03:14:47] <jcm> hi, i'm trying to install TicketDelete plugin on my trac install (debian sarge/testing, 0.9). First strange thing is that logging doesn't seem to work, it's hard to diagnose the err :-)
[03:15:13] <Marlun> anyone had any experience with subversion 1.4, I've compiled and installed it but when I try to compile swig-py it doesn't seem to be available and if I write "make swig-py" anyway I get hundreds of warnings and errors.
[03:17:47] <m_g> jcm, how does your logging conf look like?
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[03:22:02] <Marlun> ah think I found the problem.
[03:26:57] <jcm> I use mod_python with apache2, my vhost has PythonOption TracEnvParentDir /home/trac. Trac works. Logging doesn't. My project trac.ini has a loggin section: log_file = trac.log log_level = DEBUG log_type = none
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[03:42:33] <cedricOB> jcm log_type = file should be better
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[04:15:03] <jcm> cedricOB: sure ! now I get an error for ticketdelete: Trac[__init__] ERROR: Failed to load plugin ticketdelete.web_ui from /usr/lib/python2.3/site-packages/TracTicketDelete-0.1-py2.3.egg
[04:15:12] <jcm> the file is there and readable
[04:16:14] <jcm> last error line is: File "build/bdist.linux-i686/egg/ticketdelete/web_ui.py", line 7, in ?
[04:17:53] <jcm> another question: is there a way to open directly the db/trac.db with sqlite in cmd line ? I'd like to delete all spam comments (I still have few tickets, it's doable) since now anonymous cannot add or modify tickets anymore
[04:26:08] <jcm> last pb solved using sqlite instead of sqlite3 ;-)
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[04:36:41] <cedricOB> jcm : afaik slite is usable but be carefull of the trac schema, some times t is better to use a python script using trac api.
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[04:37:03] <cedricOB> and for your plugin, I don't know
[04:37:09] <cedricOB> have you build your own egg ?
[04:41:10] <jcm> cedricOB: I downloaded with svn and used python setup.py install from the svn dir
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[04:41:44] <cedricOB> oh, I am not using this one, I can not help you
[04:42:51] <jcm> cedricOB: deleting from sqlite seems to work fine
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[06:25:46] <Marlun> Anyone who has Subversion 1.4 running with Debian's Apache2 configuration?
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[06:31:36] <ne0futur> hi all
[06:32:37] <ne0futur> I have a working trac on http://trac.ww7.be/
[06:33:45] <ne0futur> how can I add another project ? do I need more than one repository_dir = /var/svn/trac.ww7.be/ ? or have more than one directory in the line ?
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[06:44:53] <ne0futur> i mean . . . can 1 trac instance use more than one repository_dir ?
[06:54:05] <prologic> hmm
[06:54:07] <prologic> be nice if it could
[06:54:23] <prologic> somehow I thin that's what the TracForge plugin is indended to do somewhat though
[06:56:49] <coderanger> Not yet at least
[06:57:15] <coderanger> The TracForge model is a bunch of Tracs (with one repo per each) that are all interconnected
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[07:00:42] <kop> prologic: that was one of my first questions as well
[07:02:23] <kop> situation is we have one repo for the main project, and one called "private" where each developer can play around without causing fuzz in the main changelog
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[07:59:23] <cboos> hi everybody
[08:00:14] <cboos> quick poll: what about making the quickjump search box a bit wider?
[08:01:07] <cboos> (currently, it's size="10", and I find that annoyingly too narrow when typing paths ...)
[08:03:17] <coderanger> Sounds like a good default, though making a config option for it might help too (for browsers that lack the CSS support to do it there)
[08:04:54] <coderanger> on second thought thats probably overkill, ignore me O:-)
[08:05:32] <coderanger> Can anyone else reach trac-hacks.org?
[08:08:59] <lyken> it appears to not do anything
[08:09:00] <lyken> heh
[08:10:25] <coderanger> Hurm
[08:10:45] <coderanger> bouncing apache isn't helping
[08:11:40] <coderanger> Unhandled exception in thread started by <bound method Connection.run of <trac.web._fcgi.Connection object at 0xb6eabdac>>
[08:14:43] <coderanger> Hurm
[08:14:52] <coderanger> Looks like its kind of working again
[08:15:06] <coderanger> I'll let Alec deal with it :)
[08:17:32] <lyken> you know after getting trac installed on os x from source, thats a victorious feeling :)
[08:17:44] <klando> cboos : I don't care about the size of quicksearch, I usually paste directly in it, not writing , or only short search word
[08:18:23] <coderanger> wow, I didn't realize how much traffic trac-hacks is getting
[08:18:52] <cboos> yeah, but if you paste a dirname and want to change the filename, or want to do any kind of editing... you feel like you need a magnifying glass ;)
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[08:19:24] <klando> sure !
[08:20:03] <cboos> ... when I get my hands on jQuery, I'll make a fancy AJAX file selector in the browser ;)
[08:20:04] <coderanger> cboos: Maybe some kind of JS popup insanity? :)
[08:20:10] <cboos> exactly :)
[08:20:26] <klando> Perhaps, it must depend on the usage of this box : is it the more 'clicked' box or not... I am about removing it, and just let the navbar or 'vice-versa'
[08:20:48] <coderanger> jQuery is on the list for 0.11, right?
[08:21:19] <klando> jQuery .. what's that ?
[08:21:25] <coderanger> JS library
[08:21:31] <klando> from who ?
[08:21:57] <cboos> jQuery shouldn't be a problem to include in 0.11, I guess, but so far only cmlenz and mgood played with it, so I can't tell if there's something remaining to do, on that branch or what's preventing its integration
[08:21:57] <coderanger> klando: http://jquery.com/
[08:22:15] <klando> I am on it, a bad reflex to ask everything, sorry
[08:22:27] <coderanger> cboos: Yeah, doesn't to be "integrated", I just mean having it bundled
[08:22:59] <cboos> well, I was talking about the existing sandbox/jquery branch
[08:23:31] <cboos> there, it's bundled *and* used a bit, which makes sense ;)
[08:31:19] <matt_good> cboos: http://trac.edgewall.org/changeset/3881 on line 417 you can slice it instead of doing a replace: t[len(prefix):]
[08:31:34] <matt_good> also, you left a couple debugging print statements there
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[08:32:17] <cboos> hello matt, ok thanks, will check...
[08:32:38] <cboos> we were talking about jquery... any idea of the status?
[08:32:43] <cboos> is it ready to be integrated?
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[08:33:11] <matt_good> dunno, I tried asking cmlenz about it, but I don't think he responded
[08:33:24] <coderanger> Its that WikiPage.select_name the same thing WikiSystem.get_pages ?
[08:34:29] <cboos> well, WikiSystem.get_pages uses the cache, which, mh, how to say it gently... s*cks ;)
[08:34:50] <cboos> I prefer to avoid using that for now
[08:34:54] <matt_good> cboos: I agree we don't need another almost identical method though
[08:35:14] <cboos> and anyway it's consistent that way with the other model classes which have a select method
[08:35:14] <coderanger> cboos: Touche :)
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[08:36:30] <matt_good> pft, ok I guess he didn't want to talk about it :P
[08:37:51] <coderanger> Alec needs to bot-proof trac-hacks
[08:38:23] <coderanger> The Yahoo and Google bots are going a bit wild it looks like
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[08:38:45] <matt_good> coderanger: doing what?
[08:39:09] <coderanger> matt_good: Spidering things I had thought they weren't supposed to
[08:39:22] <matt_good> oh
[08:39:22] <coderanger> like every revision of each file in the browser
[08:39:27] <cboos> matt_good: no ;) I had to quickjump out of irc for a bit ;)
[08:39:41] <cboos> (those IRC logs are a good thing, no?)
[08:39:53] <matt_good> heh
[08:40:22] <cboos> ... that being said, we're all being watched ;)
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[08:44:03] <coderanger> I had thought the browser was supposed to mark pages as norobots/nofollow if they weren't the youngest version of the file
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[08:44:19] <coderanger> Doesn't look like it is though
[08:44:34] <matt_good> wtf did I hit, I suddenly just disconnected
[08:44:42] <matt_good> cboos: well, I guess if you want to be consistent you could use an actual WikiPage.select method
[08:44:50] <matt_good> with a "prefix" param
[08:46:23] <matt_good> um, actually, IIUC select_names will yield the same name for each version of the page
[08:46:44] <cboos> well, ok, the Model.select() usually retrieve objects, and not the ids. So I think I should better use the WikiSystem.get_pages
[08:47:06] <cboos> and I'll avoid the missing "DISTINCT" issue ;)
[08:47:15] <cboos> thanks for the feedback
[08:47:54] <matt_good> cboos: yeah, I meant WikiPage.select would get the page objects
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[08:48:27] <matt_good> but if there's a problem with the cache, I suppose it should be investigated
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[08:48:34] <cboos> but it's not yet needed, I just need the page names, so I think I'll use WikiSystem.get_pages
[08:49:50] <matt_good> ok
[08:50:02] <cboos> for the cache, it's simply the usual multi-process thing, described in the journaling proposal
[08:50:22] <cboos> nothing to investigate but to fix ;)
[08:52:17] <matt_good> well, it's updated every 5 seconds, so it shouldn't be stale very long
[08:52:55] <cboos> yep, but that s*cks anyway, doesn't it? ;)
[08:54:51] <matt_good> I doubt its long enough for most users to actually notice
[08:55:34] <cboos> I'm maybe too purist here, but I really don't like this whole timer based approach...
[08:58:33] <matt_good> hrm, I guess get_pages uses _index.keys() instead of iterkeys() to avoid needing to lock the structure
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[08:58:58] <matt_good> I guess that could use a comment
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[09:10:12] <cboos> coderanger & matt_good: http://trac.edgewall.org/changeset/3885, thanks for the feedback ;)
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[09:18:04] <BrianHV> using windows apache + cgi, ScriptAlias fails because trac.cgi isn't executable. what's the fix for that?
[09:20:03] <BrianHV> oh, reg hacking. yum.
[09:26:27] <matt_good> BrianHV: did you check the #! line at the beginning of trac.cgi
[09:26:54] <matt_good> check that it points to where your python.exe is
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[09:27:37] <BrianHV> aaah, that got it
[09:27:46] <BrianHV> there was some junk at the start of that line that notepad wasn't showing me :P
[09:27:58] <BrianHV> cgi is hard core slow. :/
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[09:29:36] <sineer> hello
[09:29:37] <coderanger> BrianHV: Yep, if you want speed use FastCGI or mod_python ;-)
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[09:30:33] <sineer> I have a problem with fastcgi and lighttpd... I've seen this bug reported on trac site: http://trac.edgewall.org/ticket/3868
[09:30:55] <sineer> The Post action and fastcgi 'Broken pipe' problem... It prevents some of my site db auth login to work :(
[09:31:10] <tag> coderanger: Oh, then I'm using 3.2.1
[09:31:19] <tag> coderanger: (sqlite3 being a different set of packages)
[09:31:23] <weigon> sineer: try lighty 1.4.13
[09:31:29] <sineer> so I'm wondering if anyone know a fix or work around to this problem where fcgi get a broken pipe..
[09:31:32] <sineer> lightY ?
[09:31:40] <sineer> I'm running lighttpd 1.4.13
[09:31:53] <coderanger> tag: what about pysqlite2?
[09:32:02] <tag> pysqlite2?
[09:32:08] <sineer> lighttpd-1.4.13 (ssl) on Debian etch 2.6.18
[09:32:14] <weigon> sineer: ok, only the bugreport was saying .12, fine
[09:32:29] <sineer> yeah I've seen reports that it was fixed in .13 but not for me :(
[09:33:12] <tag> so anyway it seems like it might be my db that's hosed
[09:35:05] <coderanger> tag: sqlite3 /path/to/env/bd/trac.db .dump >dump.sql
[09:35:25] <tag> li11-229:~/project/trac> sqlite3 db/trac.db .dump
[09:35:25] <tag> BEGIN TRANSACTION;
[09:35:25] <tag> COMMIT;
[09:35:28] <tag> ROCKING
[09:35:39] <tag> -rwxrwxrwx 1 www-data www-data 3405824 Oct 10 12:29 trac.db
[09:35:43] <tag> it's not exactly empty
[09:35:49] <coderanger> ouch
[09:35:58] <tag> yes
[09:36:01] <tag> it seems to be hosed
[09:36:07] <coderanger> Officially beyond my sqlitefu though :-/
[09:36:14] <tag> too bad I don't have solid backups
[09:36:22] <coderanger> Maybe try a ticket on sqliteorg?
[09:36:36] <tag> trac.db.17.bak <-- seems to be the newest backup I have, Jun 7th.
[09:36:47] * tag . o ( I haven't added anything too useful since June 7th... )
[09:36:49] <coderanger> I don't know if/what the recovery procedure is for sqlite
[09:36:56] <BrianHV> coderanger: I was using mod_python, but it got all crashy on me. and I can't figure out how to make fastcgi work on windows, so I'm stuck with cgi for now
[09:36:57] <tag> I'll try the backup
[09:37:27] <tag> hurm
[09:38:12] <tag> are the backups from db upgrades archived or compressed or anything?
[09:38:41] <tag> 'cause the seem to all be empty, dating back quite some time.
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[09:39:22] <tag> Error: file is encrypted or is not a database
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[09:42:07] <tag> hurm
[09:42:15] <tag> coderanger: some of my stuff works it seems.
[09:42:36] <tag> trac-admin can list versions, priorities, milestones etc.
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[09:49:39] <tag> word
[09:49:43] <coderanger> tag: probaby an sqlite version mismatch
[09:49:51] <tag> could be
[09:50:07] <tag> seems strange though
[09:50:14] <tag> when this kicked in I hadn't upgraded anything in eons
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[09:51:33] <tag> coderanger: Can I power trac with postgres?
[09:51:34] <tag> :-)
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[09:51:51] <tag> once i figure out how to get all my data out of this bitch, I think I'm going to want to do that.
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[09:53:23] <tag> man this week has just been full of broken stuff
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[09:55:26] <coderanger> Yeah, there is a migration helper script on t-h
[09:56:58] * coderanger -> arguing with flat tire
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[09:59:34] <tag> I hate multithreadding
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[10:00:44] <neomantra> hello, i did some searching but couldn't find something like this:
[10:01:33] <neomantra> is there a way to append a ticket comment by replying to another emailed ticket comment
[10:01:48] <neomantra> basically having an email conversation about a ticket tracked in the comments?
[10:03:26] <neomantra> i thought about maybe having a mail handler submit the comment using the xmlrpc interface... with the reply-to embedding the ticket/comment info
[10:03:30] <neomantra> any other suggestions?
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[10:09:40] <Marlun> Do I need to install Genshi before installing Trac? because I just installed from trunk and when I try initenv I get: "ImportError: No module named genshi.core"
[10:13:48] <Marlun> well I actually upgraded Trac from 0.9.3. It worked before when I upgraded to rc1 but I guess thats because then you still used clearsilver.
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[10:17:10] <tag> Marlun: trac 0.10 uses clearsilver
[10:17:26] <tag> Marlun: trac 0.11-dev uses genshi, I suggest not using it, because it's kind of sketchy
[10:17:38] <tag> (not genshi, but trac 0.11-dev)
[10:17:49] <tag> so download the package instead of running from trunk
[10:19:00] <Marlun> argh, I just found how to install genshi and did that :) can I downgrade as easily was upgrade (download 0.10 and do python setup.py install?)?
[10:19:08] <Marlun> was = as
[10:19:59] <Marlun> but I'm not using it for anything important right now anyway so I can test 0.11-dev some :)
[10:20:07] <Marlun> if it works at all? =)
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[11:13:45] <tag> heh
[11:13:49] <tag> yo
[11:14:00] <tag> coderanger: this is running in sqlite 2 ...hurm
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[11:31:05] <sineer> anyone using db auth trac plugin with lighty and fastcgi?
[11:31:32] <sineer> mine breaks badly with a Broken Pipe on some post action (don't know which) resulting in a Broken pipe
[11:31:33] <tag> I avoid fastcgi like the plauge
[11:31:43] <sineer> can I run trac on lighty without fastcgi?
[11:39:51] <tag> not that I know of
[11:44:06] <hotte> sineer: is tracd an option?
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[11:59:03] <pisi> How do i get syntax coloring for python in trac browser ?
[12:00:05] <pisi> I mean in the log viewer
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[12:23:37] <snk00sj> could anyone please explain me how the colors for tickets are defined in the reports
[12:23:58] <snk00sj> all tickets are in the same color after i added new permission levels
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[12:35:09] <coderanger> neomantra: email2trac
[12:35:14] <coderanger> neomantra: Available on trac-hacks
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[12:38:43] <maxb> snk00sj: The colours for the tickets are based on the ordering numbers in the "enum" database table.
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[14:58:13] <neomantra> coderanger: thanks, i'll look into it
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[15:32:20] <Marlun> I've got one trac-env which I use only as a wiki (version control and ticket system disabled). I want to move this trac-env to another computer, what is the easiest way?
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[15:38:02] <Marlun> ah, hotcopy :)
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[16:06:53] <pacopablo> afternoon all
[16:07:07] <pacopablo> Marlun: simply copy the db over
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[16:32:23] <Marlun> I just downloaded TocMacro from svn and installed it, but when I add [[TOC]] in my wiki it tells me there is no macro processor named 'TOC'. Do I need to enabled it somehow? (I know but I've asked this before but the knowledge has gotten away from me =/