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October 11, 2006

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[00:11:08] <NK`> how can I delete an attachement to a page?
[00:15:52] <NK`> I means delete the link between a page and an atachement
[00:16:02] <NK`> not to delete the attachement itself
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[00:33:34] <matt_good> NK`: you can't, that would orphan the file with no way to get to it
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[00:59:41] <Marlun> I'm new to bug tracking and tickets and I'm wondering, something like: "All data access should go through a DAO object" is thata a defect or a enhancement? The thing is that some data access already goes through DAO but not all so it seems like it's somewhere in between of adefect and a enhancement. :)
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[01:20:57] <NK`> matt_good: then is it possible to link the file to another page and then delete the link to the previous page ?
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[01:49:42] <tkp> Hi... I'm working on some trac-like plugins, and am having a bit of difficulty using multiple inheritance..
[01:50:19] <tkp> Is it possible to inherit from another class when using the trac core/plugin system?
[01:51:02] <tkp> If I try to call super __init__ fro within a plugin, the trac core seems to get in the way with it's maybe_init thing
[01:51:31] <tkp> If I can't call super.__init__, then I can I inherit properly?
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[02:10:27] <Merlin83b> Is there a way to update all tickets to a particular milestone?
[02:23:35] <Merlin83b> I've installed http://trac-hacks.org/wiki/BatchModifyPlugin by following the instructions there, but on the last step I get "Command failed: TICKET_BATCH_MODIFY is not a valid action." Anyone got an idea why I can't set this permission?
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[03:36:05] <m_g> Merlin83b, have you checked if the plugin is loaded by trac?
[03:36:36] <Merlin83b> I haven't - presumably by enablig DEBUG?
[03:37:06] <m_g> yes. just set logging type to file and see what trac.log says
[03:38:13] <Merlin83b> Thanks, I'll give it a go./
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[04:44:32] <NK`> matt_good: ,
[04:44:38] <NK`> ?*
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[05:46:50] <mitsuhiko> wah
[05:46:52] <mitsuhiko> spamming 2.0
[05:47:10] <mitsuhiko> the spammers start *changing* existing tickets
[05:47:11] <mitsuhiko> :-/
[05:47:44] <lyken> why cant they use their skills for good :/
[05:49:46] <cmlenz> mitsuhiko: that's old news
[05:49:58] <mitsuhiko> cmlenz: not for me :(
[05:50:41] <cmlenz> we've just had a huge attack this weekend, but basically spammers have been doing that for a couple of months now... only it's increasing
[05:51:08] <mitsuhiko> i really vote for a central anti spam trac portal
[05:51:18] <mitsuhiko> just like moinmaster/BlackList works for all moin installations
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[06:21:59] <TinoW> hello :-)
[06:22:51] <TinoW> where would be a "global trac.ini" ?
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[06:26:44] <lyken> global?
[06:27:00] <TinoW> TracError: No 'envroot' set in global trac.ini
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[06:27:47] <lyken> hmm
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[06:37:11] <tkp> hey
[06:37:26] <tkp> anyone here got much experience developing Trac plugins?
[06:38:29] <lyken> TinoW: what happens when you check the trac.ini in your project? conf dir?
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[06:40:31] <TinoW> lyken: I guess it was just a typo - and it seems python/share/trac/conf/trac.ino
[06:40:32] <TinoW> ini
[06:42:26] <kop> (ot) hur m�a svenskar har vi h�egentligen? :)
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[06:47:04] <TinoW> kop: ja klar
[06:47:19] <m_g> lol
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[07:37:49] <TinoW> can I somehow add fields to the ticket page?
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[07:58:41] <asmodai> custom fields for all I know.
[07:59:18] <TinoW> but I wonder how :-) The config guide says nothign about it
[07:59:54] <asmodai> http://trac.edgewall.org/wiki/TracTicketsCustomFields
[08:00:10] <asmodai> HTH
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[08:15:47] <TinoW> asmodai: a cool, thx!
[08:20:04] <asmodai> :)
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[08:27:41] <Dale> Im having problems installing the swig bindings
[08:27:49] <Dale> svn configure finds swig fine, I make install-swig-py
[08:27:57] <Dale> but when i "import svn.repos" in python, it says module svn not found
[08:28:18] <Dale> any ideas?
[08:28:41] <misc> where are they installed ?
[08:29:52] <Dale> the binaries are in /usr/local/bin/
[08:29:56] <Dale> both swig and python
[08:30:05] <asmodai> heresy! http://www.google.com/codesearch?hl=en&lr=&q=%22python+sucks%22
[08:31:12] <Dale> lol
[08:31:19] <cboos> he... look for "Ruby sucks" :)
[08:31:23] <cboos> no results ;)
[08:31:39] <Dale> java sucks has 50
[08:32:03] <misc> Dale: is PYTHONPATH modified to reflect this ?
[08:32:14] <cboos> Dale: don't try C++, you'll kill google code
[08:33:07] <Dale> i tried exporting the pythonpath, but that was before a restart
[08:33:19] <Dale> should it be the path to the binaries or libs?
[08:35:51] <misc> libs
[08:36:54] <Dale> export PYTHONPATH=/usr/local/lib/svn-python/libsvn sound right? or level one up
[08:36:58] <Dale> it does exist
[08:38:03] <misc> one level up, imho
[08:38:05] <Dale> one level up,
[08:38:06] <Dale> ImportError: /usr/local/lib/svn-python/libsvn/_fs.so: undefined symbol: SWIG_Python_ConvertPtr
[08:38:11] <Dale> yay
[08:41:07] <Dale> Warning:
[08:41:07] <Dale> You should install the SVN bindings
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[08:55:54] <Dale> anyone haven an idea what going wrong with ImportError: /usr/local/lib/svn-python/libsvn/_client.so: undefined symbol: SWIG_Python_TypeQuery
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[09:25:49] <jrydberg> I'm trying out mod_python, but the only thing displayed is my CSS file. http://projects.ginandtonique.org/trac
[09:26:09] <jrydberg> Anyone got an idea? I poked through the FAQ without any great success.
[09:27:53] <coderanger> jrydberg: pastebin your apache config
[09:27:57] <coderanger> lisppaste5: url
[09:27:58] <lisppaste5> To use the lisppaste bot, visit http://paste.lisp.org/new/trac and enter your paste.
[09:28:59] <jrydberg> coderanger: http://pastebin.ca/197895
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[09:32:20] <coderanger> jrydberg: Hmm, the CSS file is because you have a file "trac.css" and you have content negotiation on, not sure why its not accepting the mod_python handler stuff though
[09:32:26] <thm> hi!
[09:33:08] <thm> for rpm building 0.11dev, I'd propose this patch: http://rafb.net/paste/results/rF3muE45.html
[09:33:29] <thm> should I file a ticket?
[09:33:39] <coderanger> thm: "Probably not"
[09:33:49] <coderanger> thm: Trac is switching to setuptools soon
[09:33:56] <thm> seems pretty obvious
[09:33:56] <coderanger> thm: Which automates all that
[09:34:01] <thm> I know
[09:34:07] <thm> anyway
[09:34:14] <jrydberg> coderanger: Hm, ok.
[09:34:36] <coderanger> jrydberg: As a why not, maybe ditch the "" i nthe <Location>?
[09:35:35] <jrydberg> coderanger: No difference
[09:36:00] <coderanger> jrydberg: In your apache log, do you see anything about mod_python not loading correctly?
[09:37:04] <jrydberg> coderanger: I'm afraid not.
[09:37:53] <jrydberg> [11/Oct/2006:18:58:29 +0200] "GET /trac HTTP/1.1" 304 - "-"
[09:37:57] <coderanger> jrydberg: Maybe put something in that <Location> just to test if its working
[09:37:59] <jrydberg> hmm, 304 ?
[09:38:54] <coderanger> jrydberg: Makes sense if its a file, Apache will do that automatically based on mtime
[09:39:27] <coderanger> jrydberg: Go to /trac/
[09:39:41] <coderanger> And see what that error says
[09:40:00] <jrydberg> The requested URL /trac.css/ was not found on this server.
[09:40:08] <coderanger> mod_negotiate is screwing up the URL resolver process before mod_python gets to it
[09:40:33] <coderanger> jrydberg: Find that trac.css and make it not do that :)
[09:40:56] <coderanger> just rename it to anything else
[09:41:22] <jrydberg> I did that, now I get a 404
[09:42:31] <coderanger> anything in the log?
[09:42:32] <jrydberg> coderanger: I get the following error;
[09:42:34] <jrydberg> [Wed Oct 11 19:03:27 2006] [error] [client 62.20.90.195] Negotiation: discovered file(s) matching request: /var/www/trac (None could be negotiated).
[09:42:41] <Dale> anyone have an idea what going wrong with ImportError: /usr/local/lib/svn-python/libsvn/_client.so: undefined symbol: SWIG_Python_TypeQuery
[09:42:58] <coderanger> Dale: Your bindings are fubar, recompile them
[09:44:13] <jrydberg> coderanger: Seems as if mod-python never kicks in
[09:46:37] <coderanger> jrydberg: Put a redirect to google in that <location>, that will see if the its the location being ignored or m_p
[09:47:17] <Dale> just recompiled, same error
[09:47:51] <coderanger> http://trac.edgewall.org/ticket/154
[09:47:54] <jrydberg> coderanger: Seems to be the location
[09:48:13] <coderanger> jrydberg: Is it getting overridden elsewhere?
[09:48:32] <coderanger> jrydberg: Maybe try changing it to <Location /blah> for a moment
[09:48:48] <coderanger> Dale: http://lists.edgewall.com/archive/trac/2005-July/003813.html
[09:49:13] <coderanger> Dale: In fact all of http://www.google.com/search?q=undefined%20symbol:%20SWIG_Python_TypeQuery
[09:49:29] <jrydberg> coderanger: Hmm. Now i get a ISE. Let me see here.
[09:50:06] <Dale> yes, that was obviously the first place i looked, thanks
[09:50:32] <jrydberg> coderanger: Now it works. Locations are not per-vhost specific?
[09:50:41] <coderanger> coderanger: Should be
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[09:50:55] <jrydberg> coderanger: I wonder what went wrong then.
[09:51:32] <coderanger> jrydberg: In fact I know they can't be, because I have ~5 vhosts all serving different Tracs
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[09:52:06] <jrydberg> coderanger: Mmm.. Well, it somewhat works now. Thanks. I don't want to digg deeper in it :)
[09:52:17] <coderanger> jrydberg: Some things that are part the URL resolution phase can be global I think
[09:52:21] <coderanger> Like rewrite rules
[09:55:22] <jrydberg> coderanger: Would it be smarter to run it through tracd, and just let apache serve static pages?
[09:55:40] <coderanger> I wouldn't think so
[09:55:48] <coderanger> I run all my Tracs via mod_python
[09:56:28] <jrydberg> OK.
[09:56:51] <jrydberg> It seems quite a bit faster than CGI :)
[10:04:07] <mitsuhiko> hi
[10:04:20] <mitsuhiko> is there a way to display ticket detail changes in the timeline?
[10:04:36] <mitsuhiko> (stupid question, somehow it's possible; the edgewall trac does it)
[10:04:42] <mitsuhiko> i just can't figure out how
[10:04:43] <coderanger> mitsuhiko: Check the "Ticket Details" box
[10:04:53] <mitsuhiko> coderanger: it's not there
[10:04:57] <coderanger> If thats not there, look at the ticket_show_details option in trac.in
[10:05:05] <mitsuhiko> ah. thx
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[11:08:06] <Blackhex> what is right temrm of select inside select - nested select ?
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[11:11:00] <pacopablo> sub select
[11:12:43] <Blackhex> pacopablo: are you sure, google says me nothing about "sqlite subselect"
[11:13:15] <TinoW> hm. that dbauth plugin needs some more work...
[11:13:31] <boorad> TinoW: no kidding
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[11:14:40] <TinoW> hey cmlenz
[11:14:57] <boorad> TinoW: what did you have in mind?
[11:15:05] <cmlenz> howdy
[11:16:08] <TinoW> boorad: well, there is something about groups which doesnt get used, then you still have some session you have to fill separately and there is a env part per user you have to fill (undocumented)
[11:16:58] <boorad> not following - groups something that doesn't get used?
[11:17:13] <TinoW> boorad: yes
[11:17:28] <boorad> meaning code that doesn't get executed?
[11:17:37] <TinoW> or at least very strange implementation (group as a text field per user?)
[11:18:13] <boorad> hmm, it may not be used, you're right
[11:18:38] <boorad> it might be a relic - and the impl should be one to many
[11:18:42] <TinoW> and you populate the user table with email - and you have to do it again for the session storage so mail is sent.
[11:19:03] <TinoW> rough edges I'd say ;)
[11:19:07] <boorad> hmm, iirc, there's a patch to use the email in these tables, and not in the session storage
[11:19:45] <boorad> yes, very rough
[11:19:53] <boorad> I was young, I needed the money
[11:20:13] <TinoW> boorad: oh, you did it? Fine :-) I think I can figure out the changes I like ;)
[11:20:27] <boorad> env part per user could be replaced with 'all'
[11:20:33] <TinoW> I just have to follow the code path to see whats going on
[11:20:51] <boorad> I'm no uber-hacker like the Trac devs
[11:21:06] <TinoW> boorad: after brief testing of 0.10 I tried the "simple" one, which looked a bit more up to date ;)
[11:21:18] <boorad> wkornew added some things that I haven't checked.
[11:21:36] <boorad> if you want to add some things, I'll have Alect give you write access to the repos
[11:21:43] <TinoW> currently I have a setup of one trac per project which each trac using a similar named schema in my postgres
[11:22:19] <boorad> yes, there's enough goodness in the dbauth plugin in that situation that it's worth attempting to smooth out the rough edges
[11:22:35] <TinoW> I'd like to have a central user-auth storage (user, name, password, email) and ideally some groups for common tasks and put them to the projects as I need
[11:22:39] <boorad> esp. the envname=all to spread auth across all projects
[11:23:17] <boorad> I do use groups somewhere - maybe like Trac does, nested users in groups
[11:23:20] <TinoW> btw, is there already a patch for tickets to have multi select on CC field?
[11:23:51] <boorad> I'm not sure - haven't followed too closely in recent times
[11:24:23] <boorad> I have a UserDirectory patch that helps get you part of the way w/ user info - see t.e.o. #2456
[11:24:25] <TinoW> boorad: how do you test your plugin w/o rolling the egg-way every time?
[11:24:54] <boorad> I build it and put it in site-packages on my local dev machine
[11:25:02] <boorad> python setup.py install
[11:25:36] <TinoW> ah, the install was not working but maybe the setup tools were missing. I try it again with a separate install on my play server :-)
[11:25:56] <boorad> k, good luck
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[12:27:01] <heze> hi folks, i just tried to install trac on a debian sarge system using mod_python but when i try to browse to the site i get "ImportError: No module named web", what could I be missing?
[12:27:58] <pacopablo> what version of trac?
[12:28:11] <pacopablo> IIRC the version for sarge is super old
[12:29:38] <heze> 0.8.1-3sarge4
[12:29:46] <heze> you're right :)
[12:29:46] <pacopablo> yeah, you'll want to upgrade
[12:30:01] <pacopablo> then your problem should disapear
[12:30:45] <heze> thanks, guess i'll just go debian unstable :>
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[12:45:35] <heze> oh man, can't even manually install on sarge since the python distribution seems to be "broken"
[12:47:17] <heze> ah, installing python-dev package fixed that problem
[12:47:26] <heze> thanks for your spiritual support :)
[12:51:58] <Dale> aaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
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[12:54:04] <therealice> Does anyone know if there is an easy way to move wikidata from confluence to trac?
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[13:01:11] <coderanger> therealice: There are some scripts to convert wikimedia pages, so you can export to that ...
[13:01:25] <coderanger> therealice: There are also a few to convert HTML to trac wiki
[13:02:13] <therealice> that's great. do you know of any one in particular?
[13:03:03] <coderanger> Not off hand
[13:03:28] <therealice> ok. gonna google it then. thanks
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[13:24:18] <tag> so why does the TOC macro seem to work on trac-hacks
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[13:33:32] <Narada> hi guys; i am getting simply the message from trac: "Environment not found". However, I do have "PythonOption TracEnvParentDir /var/lib/trac/" defined. Any ideas?
[13:34:14] <pacopablo> Narada: pastebin your apache config
[13:34:52] <Narada> k
[13:36:28] <Narada> pacopablo: http://rafb.net/paste/results/C5qkDC67.html
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[13:51:21] <pacopablo> Narada: and you're trying to access a site via http://mydomain.com/trac/envname ?
[13:51:37] <pacopablo> and /var/lib/trac/envname is a trac environement?
[13:58:28] <Narada> yes
[13:58:39] <Narada> http://localhost/trac/test
[13:58:44] <Narada> /var/lib/trac/test
[13:58:49] <Narada> pacopablo: ^^
[13:59:02] <Narada> latest trac version as well
[13:59:27] <Narada> no error in apache error log either
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[14:06:31] <pacopablo> does it work if you use tracd ?
[14:06:43] <Narada> don't know; not sure how to use that
[14:08:59] <Narada> what port is tracd on
[14:09:20] <pacopablo> tracd -e /var/lib/trac --basic-auth='*,/etc/harry/users,harrytrac' -p 8000
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[14:11:02] <Narada> pacopablo: same; environment not found
[14:11:22] <pacopablo> pastebin the directory structure of /var/lib/trac/test
[14:12:34] <Narada> http://rafb.net/paste/results/oPem5n24.html
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[14:13:40] <pacopablo> weird
[14:13:47] <pacopablo> and no tracebacks or anything from tracd?
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[14:14:38] <Narada> harry.local - - [11/Oct/2006 23:08:53] "GET /trac/test HTTP/1.1" 404 -
[14:14:46] <Narada> tracd says ^^
[14:15:51] <pacopablo> try: http://localhost:8000/test
[14:17:17] <Narada> pacopablo: that worked
[14:17:29] <pacopablo> hmm, so it is somethign with your apache config
[14:17:47] * Narada wonders.
[14:18:30] <Narada> the ServerName is not localhost but could that really be a problem
[14:18:46] <pacopablo> if you're using virtual hosts, yes
[14:19:01] <pacopablo> do you have /trac defined anyplace else in your apache config?
[14:20:08] <Narada> no only in one place
[14:20:11] <Narada> the bit i pasted
[14:20:21] <pacopablo> hmm
[14:20:27] <pacopablo> it looks correct
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[14:25:15] <Narada> weird
[14:25:18] <Narada> :(
[14:26:17] <Narada> i'll try a different apache config; like a pseudo vhost or something
[14:26:22] <coderanger_> Is apache in a chroot?
[14:26:26] <coderanger_> and is selinux active
[14:28:23] <Narada> umm no to both i think
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[14:30:19] <coderanger_> Have you tried a non-parentdir setup?
[14:30:24] <coderanger_> just a single env
[14:32:27] <Narada> well i have /var/lib/trac and three envs in there and i can't access any of them
[14:32:40] <Narada> used to work before at some point
[14:33:09] <Narada> no i have not tried that
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[14:33:25] <Narada> just been trying to get this to work
[14:33:28] <coderanger_> check that apache has read privs on all the those folders (/var /var/lib /var/lib/trac)
[14:33:41] <Narada> it works on my remote uml vps server
[14:33:48] <Narada> just not on my local workstation
[14:42:41] <Narada> okay don't know what it was but i started from a clean set of apache configs and then just added the trac section and it works; it might have been the default vhost configuration
[14:43:51] <coderanger_> Possible
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