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October 14, 2006

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[00:11:22] <dimi3> i've download from svn TracTag, and installed it - however when I add the appropriate lines in trac.ini I get persistant error to upgrade the environment.. any ideas how to fix this.
[00:12:49] <coderanger> dimi3: What happens when you run the upgrade?
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[00:14:35] <dimi3> I upgrade the environemnt It says that it has upgraded it, but I when I run upgrade again it says the same.
[00:14:57] <coderanger> what DB are you using
[00:16:05] <dimi3> I'm using sqlite, because in first place I installed trac 0.9.something.
[00:20:03] <coderanger> muness' trac seems to be having issues :-/
[00:22:28] <dimi3> coderanger: I'm trying to run tracblog and this is the only one failed dependancy, without tags tBlog won't run at all :(
[00:22:54] <coderanger> Isn't that the only dependency?
[00:24:35] <dimi3> well, I can run it but without any set tags, it gives an error
[00:25:38] <coderanger> do you have a "tags" table?
[00:27:22] <dimi3> how to check that?
[00:27:46] <coderanger> sqlite3 /path/to/env/db/trac.db
[00:27:52] <coderanger> .tables
[00:28:39] <dimi3> there i have this file and to backups, ls -al didn't give anything else
[00:28:56] <coderanger> thats fine, its all in one file
[00:30:06] <coderanger> what does ".tables" show?
[00:32:07] <dimi3> it shows Error: file is encrypted or is not a database
[00:33:24] <coderanger> try "sqlite /path/to/env/db/trac.db"
[00:34:25] <dimi3> coderanger: i don't have one
[00:34:45] <coderanger> huh?
[00:35:10] <dimi3> i've downloaded from svn, python setyp.py installed
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[00:35:21] <coderanger> what version of sqlite/pysqlite are you using?
[00:36:10] <dimi3> then I've added the lines by hand, or with the webadmintool, and it gives the error, I made trac-admin upgrade to the envirnoment, but the errors remains the same
[00:36:32] <dimi3> python 2.3, SQLite version 2.8.16
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[00:37:17] <coderanger> you should have the sqlite program then
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[00:38:56] <dimi3> yes, I've checked with it and I don't have the 'tags' table ((10:31:04 AM) dimi3: coderanger: i don't have one - table)
[00:39:07] <coderanger> ahh, okay
[00:39:44] <coderanger> do you have a wiki_namespace table by any chance?
[00:40:49] <dimi3> no, I have only wiki
[00:44:57] <asmodai> morning
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[00:48:10] <coderanger> dimi3: I would wait for Alec to poke his head in, he would be the one to ask
[00:48:19] <coderanger> dimi3: Or email him/Muness
[00:50:24] <dimi3> ok, I'm new to the installation of plugins, I've several that run, and some that don't :)
[00:50:46] <coderanger> What other than Tags are you having trouble with?
[00:53:22] <dimi3> I've installed TimeBillingAndEstimation, WebAdmin
[00:53:35] <dimi3> I've problems with Tags, Discussion
[00:54:30] <coderanger> I know blackhex checks his tickets on trac-hacks regularly, so just open a ticket for any problem you have with that :)
[00:54:37] <dimi3> and i have newsflash plugin, but I havent's still figured out how to use it ;)
[00:54:58] <coderanger> newsflash doesn't do too much on its own
[00:55:12] <coderanger> designed to work with tracblog
[00:55:23] <dimi3> yeah, all examples I've seen were with tBlog
[00:55:39] <coderanger> All it does is wrap some wiki text in a colored box
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[01:04:15] <dimi3> against what component should I post the ticket about TagsPlugin, because it's not in the ticket.component list
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[01:11:21] <coderanger> dimi3: Tags isn't hosted at trac-hacks
[01:11:36] <coderanger> and muness' trac is broken it seems
[01:11:44] <coderanger> that why I said to email them
[01:11:51] <dimi3> coderanger: thanks
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[01:38:24] <vicentecarro> hi
[01:38:53] <vicentecarro> current version of trac supports mysql databases?
[01:42:32] <dimi3> yes, but it's experimental
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[01:56:07] <vicentecarro> dimi3, how much "experimental"? Can be use in production?
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[01:57:55] <dimi3> I suppose not, I haven't tried it, I'm looking forward to move from sqlite to mysql
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[02:46:47] <AllenJB> Is there a Wiki syntax for signature lines (--<name> <date/time>) on Trac Wiki ( --~~~ on MediaWiki) ?
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[03:16:07] <omry> how do I get the email of a registered user? I don't see it in the admin section.
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[06:57:59] <dimi3> i'm trying http://muness.textdriven.com/trac/wiki/tags/Setup but it wants a pass, any ideas how to get one
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[07:24:58] <dimi3> google cache did it just fine :)
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[07:26:58] <dimi3> coderanger: I've installed TracTags :), but now I'm trying to get the colourfull newsflash, so any ideas, I've just copied the wiki source from trac-hacks, it gives a few posts, but it's not colourfull
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[07:30:19] <dimi3> coderanger: I've figured that out!
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[09:45:12] <coderanger> cmlenz: Have you seen the stuff on SQLite's new search system?
[09:45:29] <cmlenz> yeah, pretty neat
[09:46:44] <cmlenz> http://blog.cleverly.com/permalinks/247.html
[09:46:49] <coderanger> yeah
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[09:48:05] <coderanger> FTSSearch plugins, here we come :)
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[10:09:57] <ak|ra> ave
[10:10:57] <ak|ra> the easiest way to turn off the connection to any repository at all in trac (and to turn it to a standalone wiki) would be ...?
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[10:23:39] <cmlenz> akira: leave "repository_dir" empty
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[10:34:11] <ak|ra> ah, k.
[10:39:04] <ak|ra> mhh .. now the "browse" button didnt disappear ... matter of adjusting templates ?
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[10:44:59] <dimi3> i have a strange bug in TRAC - I get 2 wiki checkboxes on timeline (and on search too) - has anyone got them?
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[10:52:50] <cboos> hello
[10:53:35] <cboos> cmlenz: I've just checked the jquery branch ... anything left to be done, there?
[10:53:53] * cboos now checks the datetime branch
[10:54:31] <cboos> oops, on the datetime branch, things are not that bright ;)
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[10:55:44] <cboos> hm, stupid me, I should have checked the datetime-genshi branch :-P
[10:59:29] <Marlun> ak|ra: you can enter trac.versioncontrol.* = disabled, in the trac.ini for that specific trac enviorment, and also trac.ticket.* = disabled, to disable the ticket funktionality, thats whay I do for my "wiki only" trac page.
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[11:03:47] <cosmotic> My trac-svn-commit hook isnt working any more, any ideas why this may be?
[11:05:27] <ak|ra> Marlun: ah, fine
[11:10:42] <matt_good> dimi3: one is probably from a plugin you added, in which case you'll need to disable the built-in wiki components as necessary
[11:13:18] <dimi3> matt_good: the plugins I have are NewsFlash, Tags, TicketDelete, SiteUpload, tBlog & Timing&estimation, I believe the Blog gave the second entry
[11:13:31] <cboos> matt_good, cmlenz : what about merging the jquery branch?
[11:14:29] <matt_good> dimi3: I believe the Tags plugin implements an enhanced version of the Wiki components, so take a look at their docs, it should tell you which components to disable
[11:14:42] <dimi3> matt_good: ook
[11:19:40] <dimi3> matt_good: thanks, it worked - the webadmin makes different setting in the trac.ini file, so I copied the [components] from their docs
[11:24:36] <omry> how do I get the emails of all the registered users
[11:24:37] <omry> ?
[11:24:54] <cboos> programatically?
[11:25:05] <omry> no
[11:25:07] <omry> a one timer
[11:25:24] <coderanger> Do you have access to the database?
[11:25:27] <omry> yes
[11:26:20] <coderanger> select sid, value from session_attribute where authenticated=1 and name="email";
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[11:27:44] <omry> cool, thanks
[11:28:07] <omry> coderanger, btw: you know that the emails does not show anywhere in the admin plugin? (at least not that I saw them)
[11:28:23] <coderanger> nope
[11:39:49] <cboos> cmlenz: are you around?
[11:42:01] <cboos> In datetime, I wonder if dates shouldn't be always utc in the model, and let the templates do the timeshift, with req.tz
[11:44:26] <cboos> Well, the more I think about it, the more this sounds appropriate
[11:45:50] <cboos> oh, and the date format utilities already do that, good ;)
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[11:58:57] <cosmotic> so i figured out why my commit hook wasnt working, some how the "from trac.Notify import TicketNotifyEmail" line was failing
[11:59:02] <cosmotic> any ideas why that would be?
[12:01:22] <cboos> cosmotic: which Trac version are you using?
[12:01:50] <cboos> the script looks like coming from Trac 0.9
[12:02:29] <cboos> (trac.Notify is from trac 0.9, in 0.10 it's trac.ticket.notification there)
[12:04:46] <cosmotic> .10b
[12:05:15] <cosmotic> you know what, i may have tested it with 9, ant it worked, then upgraded it to 10b and never checked the hook again
[12:05:36] <cboos> ... so look in the contrib folder for your 0.10b1 package, and make sure that hook gets used
[12:05:47] <cboos> s/for/from/
[12:06:22] <cboos> ... and update to "plain" trac 0.10, a few issues were fixed since b1, you know ;)
[12:06:22] <cosmotic> what do you mean make sure it gets uses?
[12:06:34] <cosmotic> yeah, i just looked today
[12:06:55] <cosmotic> big issues?
[12:07:12] <cboos> hm, nothing critical ;)
[12:07:22] <cboos> polishing mainly
[12:11:50] <dimi3> /j #edudev
[12:13:07] <cboos> cosmotic: I've just update the milestone 0.10 page, adding some revision range links (near the bottom of the page)
[12:13:47] <cboos> looking at that, you can see what changed from b1 to rc1, and from rc1 to 0.10
[12:14:41] <cosmotic> link?
[12:15:46] <cboos> @milestone 0.10
[12:15:46] <evil_twin> cboos: Error: "milestone" is not a valid command.
[12:16:14] <cboos> @learn milestone http://trac.edgewall.org/milestone/$1
[12:16:14] <evil_twin> cboos: (learn [<channel>] <key> as <value>) -- Associates <key> with <value>. <channel> is only necessary if the message isn't sent on the channel itself. The word 'as' is necessary to separate the key from the value. It can be changed to another word via the learnSeparator registry value.
[12:16:27] <cboos> @milestone 0.10
[12:16:27] <evil_twin> cboos: Error: "milestone" is not a valid command.
[12:16:40] <cboos> hm, don't know how this things work ...
[12:16:54] <cboos> http://trac.edgewall.org/milestone/0.10
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[12:17:25] <coderanger> @learn roadmap as http://trac.edgewall.org/roadmap <-- Trac roadmap
[12:17:25] <evil_twin> coderanger: The operation succeeded.
[12:17:37] <cboos> and what about arguments?
[12:17:44] <coderanger> @roadmap
[12:17:44] <evil_twin> coderanger: "roadmap" is http://trac.edgewall.org/roadmap <-- Trac roadmap
[12:17:50] <coderanger> Does supybot do that?
[12:17:57] <cboos> lt must work, as ticket does that
[12:18:00] <cboos> @ticket 1
[12:18:00] <evil_twin> cboos: http://trac.edgewall.org/ticket/1
[12:18:18] <coderanger> that might be the tracbot plugin
[12:18:38] <cboos> @learn milestone as http://trac.edgewall.org/milestone/
[12:18:38] <evil_twin> cboos: The operation succeeded.
[12:18:43] <cboos> @milestone 1
[12:18:43] <evil_twin> cboos: Error: "milestone" is not a valid command.
[12:18:50] <cboos> @milestone
[12:18:50] <evil_twin> cboos: "milestone" is http://trac.edgewall.org/milestone/
[12:19:17] <cboos> hm, must be a "command" to accept arguments
[12:19:27] <cboos> @forget milestone
[12:19:27] <evil_twin> cboos: The operation succeeded.
[12:19:30] <coderanger> The factoids plugin only does simple strings I think
[12:19:37] <cboos> ah, this one I guessed right ;)
[12:20:49] <coderanger> @help ticket
[12:20:49] <evil_twin> coderanger: (ticket <ticket>) -- returns a link to that ticket on the Trac Site
[12:21:04] <coderanger> Yeah, thats specifically provided by the tracbot stuff
[12:21:21] <coderanger> @help tracbot
[12:21:21] <evil_twin> coderanger: Error: There is no command "tracbot".
[12:22:13] <coderanger> ticket, wiki, tracsearch, newticket, and changeset are all that it defines
[12:24:11] <cboos> that's a bit better: http://trac.edgewall.org/milestone/0.10
[12:26:46] <cboos> still no cmlenz around?
[12:27:05] <cboos> no? then I go to lunch, bbl
[12:27:24] <coderanger> lunch?
[12:27:37] <coderanger> isnt it ~9 over there?
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[13:20:02] <cboos> coderanger: s/lunch/whatever the evening meal is called (dinner?)/
[13:21:16] <cmlenz> yeah, dinner would be more appropriate I think
[13:21:19] <cmlenz> :-)
[13:21:43] <cmlenz> about the jquery branch... it works well, but I still wanted to port the ticket query stuff to jquery
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[13:23:13] <cboos> hm, ok, but what about piecewise integration of branches then ... I've noticed that there are quite some "big" changes in some templates
[13:23:26] <cboos> wouldn't it be better to merge them sooner than later?
[13:24:22] <cboos> I mean, why not keep the branch, but nevertheless import the current status in trunk, so as to minimize divergence
[13:24:47] <cmlenz> big changes? not really IIRC
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[13:24:54] <cmlenz> but yeah, it'd be nice to merge it soon
[13:25:03] <cmlenz> porting the query stuff over can also happen on trunk
[13:25:37] <cboos> well, "big" in the sense of big diffs, only because there's a <div> less
[13:26:01] <cboos> so the actual change is really minor, but it'll make merging things a pain...
[13:26:26] <cmlenz> ah, right, the searchable stuff
[13:26:29] <cmlenz> forgot about that
[13:26:31] <cboos> yes
[13:30:36] <cboos> I'm currently working on the datetime branch, moving the remaining format_* calls to the templates. I think this branch is also pretty much working.
[13:31:20] <s0undt3ch> cboos: will that allow all date and time ocurrences to be formatted to a user defined string?
[13:31:32] <s0undt3ch> acording to python standards of course
[13:32:08] <cboos> s0undt3ch: no, but it will make this easily doable
[13:32:12] <cmlenz> cboos: I'll send a merge proposal for jquery to trac-dev tomorrow, and do the merge early next week, okay?
[13:32:14] <cboos> if really wanted
[13:32:25] <omry> I`d like to add a piece of html to my wiki, and have it on the right side of the page. how can I do that?
[13:32:42] <cboos> cmlenz: why not do that overnight ;)
[13:33:10] <cmlenz> oh, I'd rather not :-P
[13:33:15] <s0undt3ch> cboos: well, if it will make it possible, great
[13:33:55] <cboos> cmlenz: any specific reason not to do it?
[13:34:21] <cmlenz> I'm confused... I just said I wanted to do it, didn't I?
[13:34:33] <cmlenz> just not "overnight"
[13:35:04] <cmlenz> I'd like to give others a formal chance to raise objections about the merge
[13:35:11] <cmlenz> and, well, get some sleep, too
[13:35:14] <cmlenz> :-P
[13:36:05] <cboos> well, I don't think anyone would object to those branches, or they would have said something already: jonas did the datetime branch, and matt worked with jquery, so I'm sure everyone agrees
[13:36:22] <cboos> and anyway, those are not "big" branches in the sense unicode or genshi were
[13:36:55] <cboos> the thing is, I wanted to restart this w.e. my work on multi-repository and new vc cache, and I first wanted to "flush" a few things,
[13:37:12] <cboos> in order to not have too many different "quite ready" branches
[13:37:28] <cmlenz> true, but I'd rather we keep to the branching rules... it's just good style IMHO and forces "syncpoints" on trac-dev for discussions
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[13:37:41] <cmlenz> (that was in response to your first sentence)
[13:37:49] <cmlenz> (and second)
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[13:42:24] <cboos> I've seen that this afternoon you restarted the setuptools branch: for that too, I had the impression that merging datetime and jquery first would be a good idea, before you start moving things around...
[13:44:29] <cmlenz> yeah
[13:44:57] <cmlenz> the setuptools branch definitely has a moving-lots-of-files-around problem
[13:45:16] <cboos> ... so I was under the false impression that you wanted to do that this W.-E. ;)
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[14:14:40] <cboos> unicode strings everywhere in Genshi, right?
[14:14:54] <cboos> <span class="time">${format_time(event.date, '%H:%M')}</span> ${event.title}
[14:15:05] <cboos> => TypeError: strftime() argument 1 must be str, not unicode
[14:15:11] <cboos> :)
[14:15:34] <cboos> <span class="time">${format_time(event.date, str('%H:%M'))}</span>
[14:15:47] <cboos> fixes it, but I wanted to let you know ;)
[14:17:15] <coderanger> wouldn't that be a problem with strftime (instead of Genshi)?
[14:18:35] <cboos> oh sure, but I bet that's still there in 2.5, as this sort of thing must be a thin wrapper on the stdlib function
[14:19:54] <cboos> the problem in Genshi I wanted to outline is that even a 'xxx' constant is interpreted as an unicode string (i.e. as if I've written u'xxx')
[14:22:16] <coderanger> ahh
[14:22:48] <coderanger> yeah, thats a bit weird, but probably The Right Thing in most places in Trac
[14:23:26] <cboos> yeah, that's the first time I've been hit by that, and the workaround was evident, so no big deal...
[14:23:50] <cboos> coderanger: I need a small tip in english, would you say:
[14:23:59] <cboos> "moving most remaining datefmt *uses* from controllers to templates"
[14:24:00] <cboos> or
[14:24:12] <cboos> "moving most remaining datefmt *usages* from controllers to templates" ?
[14:24:31] <coderanger> hmm, maybe "calls" or "invocations"?
[14:24:53] <cboos> datefmt-related calls, then
[14:25:00] <coderanger> sounds good :)
[14:25:05] <cboos> ok, thanks!
[14:25:23] <coderanger> of course as a computer geek, English isn't my strong point ;-)
[14:26:19] <cboos> bad excuse, it's your mother tongue, isn't it?
[14:26:33] <coderanger> heh, yeah
[14:26:50] <cboos> so don't hide behind the "I speak only to my computer" excuse ;)
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[15:01:45] <__doc__> any idea how I configure auth under lighttpd correctly?
[15:02:01] <__doc__> I'm only getting AssertionError: Authentication information not available.
[15:03:00] <__doc__> ah, I think I get it
[15:08:53] <__doc__> right got it
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[16:22:29] <sgorilla1> hi
[16:24:09] <coderanger> aldo
[16:24:23] <sgorilla1> has anyone had this issue in svn
[16:24:41] <sgorilla1> svn update -> svn: Failed to add directory 'thread_sandbox': object of the same name is already scheduled for addition
[16:25:24] <sgorilla1> svn ci -> svn: Directory '/home/sgorilla/branches/thread_sandbox'
[16:25:33] <coderanger> revert the WC
[16:25:38] <sgorilla1> its like a catch22
[16:26:04] <coderanger> svn revert -R
[16:26:07] <sgorilla1> svn revert .
[16:26:31] <sgorilla1> ok that worked
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[16:27:31] <moraes> hi, can somebody help?
[16:28:25] <coderanger> depends on what you need
[16:28:32] <moraes> I have installed Trac 0.10 on Debian and everything gone well, except for the source browsing. See the error: http://tipos.org/browser/trunk/Tipos/Controller/Front.php
[16:28:53] <moraes> I just need a tip to know what is wrong...
[16:28:59] <coderanger> I don't see an error
[16:29:14] <coderanger> oh, in the browser window
[16:29:28] <moraes> yes...
[16:29:48] <moraes> evrtuthing else is fine...
[16:30:00] <moraes> oops. *everything
[16:30:14] <coderanger> I would file a ticket about that
[16:30:43] <moraes> really?
[16:30:44] <moraes> ok.
[16:31:11] <moraes> I guess it is related to syntax highlighting
[16:34:09] <coderanger> do you have PHP installed?
[16:34:18] <coderanger> the binary, not mod_php
[16:36:01] <moraes> yes. i can run php commands on the shell.
[16:36:40] <coderanger> do you have php_path set?
[16:37:00] <moraes> I'll check this.
[16:37:11] <moraes> thanks.
[16:47:02] <moraes> you mean set php_path in trac.ini?
[16:47:19] <coderanger> yes
[16:47:43] <moraes> ok.
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[16:53:57] <moraes> yes. it is related to php & syntax highlighting. see now: http://tipos.org/browser/trunk/Tipos/Controller/Front.php
[16:54:44] <moraes> this is the result after I set the php_path in trac.ini. I'll investigate the syntax problem. thanks for the tip, coderanger!
[16:55:26] <coderanger> check the usual suspects first: chroot or selinux
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[17:21:21] <wereHamster> too bad that the spam filter is only for 0.10 - I still have 0.9.4
[17:21:35] <wereHamster> 0.9.6
[17:31:43] <coderanger> time to upgrade :)
[17:33:54] <wereHamster> I can't really upgrade since there's no ebuild for 0.10 yet :(
[17:34:01] <coderanger> sure there is
[17:34:10] <wereHamster> .. trying to play with "PythonPath "sys.path + ['/path/to/trac']""
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