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<matt_good> |
cobaltsixty: output of what? |
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<matt_good> |
cmlenz: I threw together a Pygments Trac plugin |
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<cmlenz> |
matt_good: wow, nice :-) |
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<matt_good> |
I should figure out how to get it to use Trac's CSS classes, but I'll probably put it on TracHacks tomorrow |
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<matt_good> |
need to get some sleep now |
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<cboos> |
excuse my ignorance, but what's Pygments? |
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<cboos> |
(google doesn't know either...) |
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<matt_good> |
http://pygments.pocoo.org/ |
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<cboos> |
thanks! |
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<cboos> |
ah |
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<cboos> |
"... and it highlights even Brainf*ck! " nice ;) |
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<matt_good> |
cmlenz: it'd probably make a good default since it's pure Python, no extra dependencies, and it looks like it has decent language support |
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<matt_good> |
better SQL coloring than the other options ATM too |
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<matt_good> |
SilverCity sometimes you can't even tell it's done anything |
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<cboos> |
.. and enscript is a hell on windows. Colorer is better, but still a bit complex to install. |
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<matt_good> |
do either SilverCity or enscript do Python """ blocks correctly? |
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<cboos> |
... so I'm very much in favor of that as a default, if it works well |
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<matt_good> |
cboos: it's been a while, but I think I said before I don't remember it being that hard |
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<matt_good> |
there's a "gnu32" project IIRC that has binaries which I think worked fine |
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<matt_good> |
gnuwin32, sorry |
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<cboos> |
well, those packages hadn't been updated since 2002 or 2003, and don't work well for me, at least |
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<matt_good> |
cboos: they've got 1.6.3 which is from July 2003, but at least based on Ubuntu 1.6.4 is the latest |
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<matt_good> |
so it's not really that out-of-date |
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<cboos> |
yeah, the whole enscript thing is out-of-date ;) |
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<cboos> |
not only on windows... |
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<matt_good> |
are there Python bindings for Colorer yet? |
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<cboos> |
I mean, those days, people want Ruby, C#, this kind of things... |
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<cobaltsixty> |
matt_good, https://trac-hacks.org/wiki/WikiOutputStreamPlugin |
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<cboos> |
about Colorer, not that I know, so yes not having bindings is a hindrance... but not more than for enscript |
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<cmlenz> |
yeah, but enscript is actually widespread on unix machines |
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<cmlenz> |
it still sucks, of course |
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<cboos> |
so, to summarize my p.o.v: python only highlighters are better than external highlighters, among which Colorer looks preferable to enscript |
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<cboos> |
... and it looks like that Pygments > SilverCity, so yes, I'd be fully in favor of taking that as the new default |
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<cboos> |
(still need to check that package more than a superficial look, of course) |
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<cmlenz> |
at least it looks like it's being actively developed |
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<cboos> |
.. and they use Trac :) |
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<cmlenz> |
and silvercity still needs native code compilation |
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<cboos> |
oh really? that's bad ... |
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<cmlenz> |
IIRC |
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<cmlenz> |
cboos: btw, I'd like to do some work on the moving wiki2html into the templates again... do you have a current patch for that? |
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<cboos> |
cmlenz: to clarify what I said on #366: by "removing support" I meant "removing the legacy highlighters from trac.mimeview" module |
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<cboos> |
we could have a more stuffed "contrib" folder in the future (with setuptools), where we could put all sort of "default" plugins (like the php, enscript, silvercity and pygments highlighters) |
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<cmlenz> |
ah... I was hoping I misunderstood that that comment ;-) |
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<cmlenz> |
sounded like strong sarcasm to me |
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<cboos> |
sorry, no, wasn't that |
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<cobaltsixty> |
cboos, some time ago, I ported jEdit Syntax Highlighting Package to J# in order to let me write up a Windows Live Writer (a bloggerPro-like-desktop-app) Plugin for Publishing Source Code in Blog Posts |
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<cobaltsixty> |
cboos, i found it really neat, albeit somewhat obsolete |
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<cobaltsixty> |
Just published my neat plugin :D |
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<cobaltsixty> |
(the one who runs under a JVM on trac-hacks, not the .NET I just talked about) |
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<cobaltsixty> |
cboos, if you're curious, here's the link: http://www.leal.eng.br/mnemetica/2006/08/27/announcing-lighter-for-windows-live-writer.html |
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<cboos> |
he, we have a C++ code base which is also pretty "deep" ;) |
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<cobaltsixty> |
cmlenz, didn't get it, but i've been wondering in some sort of ajax indexing for trac viewing |
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<cmlenz> |
ajax indexing? what's that? |
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<cobaltsixty> |
s/indexing/searching/ |
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<cobaltsixty> |
one feature for my Plugin is the hability to automagically let you write "source:" links from your running codebase |
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<cobaltsixty> |
thus mapping a given classname (like, say, br.eng.leal.trac.Tracfier to source:/trunk/main/src/java/br/eng/leal/trac/Tracfier.java) |
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<cobaltsixty> |
I commited it half-broken (i.e., not working), because I wrote with my work environment in mind. |
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<matt_good> |
cmlenz: yeah, I was setting up the Vim Project plugin for a Java project today, and had forgotten how nasty it gets having all those packages and files |
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<cmlenz> |
cobaltsixty: you could make a custom wikilinkresolver plugin for trac so that you'd just have to write "class:br.eng.leal.trac.Tracfier" in wiki comments |
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<cobaltsixty> |
cmlenz, nice idea, but there's still a weak link: I'll still need to search over the subversion repository to locate the culprit. I'm doing it on the client-side for the first releases and them I'll attempt, ok? I'm just java-coding trac stuff, heh :) |
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<matt_good> |
ok, I need some sleep |
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<cobaltsixty> |
cmlenz, but thanks for the idea. I promise to take a look soon. |
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<cmlenz> |
what do you mean you're doing it client side? auto-completion inside a textarea? |
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<cobaltsixty> |
yes, but using a json-like backend. and let some external apps (read: greasemonkey) use it in order to decorate stack traces and other stuff |
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<cmlenz> |
what are you using for the autocompletion? |
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<cobaltsixty> |
which perhaps leads to a question: does and if it doesn't, how could you perhaps subtle switch source browser output to let you hyperlink to an anchor on, say, line #150? |
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<cobaltsixty> |
cmlenz, didn't get it. i didn't understand your question, sorry |
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<cmlenz> |
the browser does let you link to a specific line |
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<cmlenz> |
#L150 |
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<cobaltsixty> |
Oh, thats really good |
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<cmlenz> |
about the question... you said you were using autocompletion in textareas (at least you responded with "yes" to my question about that)... so I'm asking now what you're using to get that working, as it's obviously not a standard browser feature |
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<cboos> |
ah, btw, cmlenz, did you look at the patches from Tim Hatch, way back, adding highlighting to the specified lines? |
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<cobaltsixty> |
well, we use bas' email2trac and we set up log4j to mail runtime exceptions. but it gets on a very long line. we just wrote a small piece on footer.html to split it up, but you can also hyperlink lines |
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<cmlenz> |
cboos: where was that? I think that should be trivial using jquery |
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<cobaltsixty> |
cmlenz, not in trac, but in your app, using ajaxtags |
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<cmlenz> |
ah ok |
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<cboos> |
actually, the patch was adding more to the syntax: instead of just #L150, you could specify several lines, intervals ... |
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<cobaltsixty> |
cmlenz, the key part is to write the middleware. i'd suggest to stick to a standard notation (like json) and write client-side along with this |
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<cobaltsixty> |
cmlenz, but it seems you had "the look". What do you want to do? |
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<cmlenz> |
hm? "the look"? :-P |
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<cobaltsixty> |
Yes, that look when something caught under the radar. Usually, something you want to do or to know. |
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<s0undt3ch> |
cmlenz: the only way to have <li> items side by side is to make #blah li { float: left; }? |
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<s0undt3ch> |
following trac's way of doin' stuff |
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<cmlenz> |
s0undt3ch: or { display: inline; } |
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<s0undt3ch> |
hmm... ;) |
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<cmlenz> |
cobaltsixty: well, I was thinking whether it'd be possible to do auto-completion inside trac textareas for wiki links |
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<cmlenz> |
i.e. you type source:/ and then you get an autocomplete popup |
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<s0undt3ch> |
cmlenz: ha ah! Thanks! |
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<cmlenz> |
not sure I ever saw that in a web-app, though... |
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<cobaltsixty> |
cmlenz, looks easy stuff |
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<cobaltsixty> |
cmlenz, perhaps borrowing something from fckeditor or google complete |
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<cobaltsixty> |
cmlenz, google told me that perhaps this URL might be interesting: http://www.ruby-forum.com/topic/74968 |
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<s0undt3ch> |
cmlenz: that autocomplete would actually be great :) |
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<s0undt3ch> |
trac using some ajax? :) |
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<cmlenz> |
s0undt3ch: no, ajah ;-) http://trac.edgewall.org/changeset/3991 |
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<s0undt3ch> |
huh, you already said ajah the other day, I though it was a typo, so is it ajax or ajah? |
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<cobaltsixty> |
cmlenz, this one looks better. |
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<cobaltsixty> |
http://trac.mochikit.com/wiki/AutoComplete |
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<cmlenz> |
ajah -> Async Javascript And HTML |
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<cobaltsixty> |
cmlenz, can i offer you a simple-yet-working-suggestion? |
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<cboos> |
it's "ajah", so that answering the question "Does Trac do Web 2.0?" cmlenz can answer: "Ajah, naturlich" ;) |
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<cobaltsixty> |
cmlenz, create a dhtml iframe underneath the textarea and fire up your form to render into the iframe for a wysiwyg preview, and place some buttons for inserting hyperlinks and all the stuff. looks a clever solution |
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<cobaltsixty> |
cmlenz, i did this way (although not using wiki markup, in that case. it was done for another reason) |
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<cmlenz> |
well, I'm not talking about WYSIWYG, and that is really more complicated with wiki formatting |
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<cobaltsixty> |
but having a preview button might make things easier. Wordpress resorts to this while not using fck |
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<cobaltsixty> |
perhaps using a given hotkey for firing up an inline "Include Resource" AJAX^HH dialog |
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<cobaltsixty> |
well, need to take a nap before going to work. I need to get to work today earlier, since there's a hottie just giving subtle hints she would like to spend more time working in my room |
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<cobaltsixty> |
well, never mind, pretend i didn't say anything, ok? :) |
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<cmlenz> |
heh |
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<cmlenz> |
for example, you can do: |
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<cmlenz> |
<xi:include href="foo.html" py:with="title = 'Foo'" /> |
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<cmlenz> |
which gives you a simple way to parameterize includes |
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<cmlenz> |
erm |
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<cmlenz> |
wrong channel |
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<cobaltsixty> |
haha |
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<Getty> |
is there a tag for return in the wiki? i cant do a real return cause then the table parsing brakes (|| ||) |
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<cobaltsixty> |
[[br]]? |
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<cboos> |
seems Trac is not the only repository browser to trigger errors in Subversion ;) |
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<cboos> |
http://svn.collab.net/viewvc/svn/ |
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<asmodai> |
mmm, seems Microsoft added IE 7 to automatic updates now |
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<row> |
asmodai: is that confirmed? |
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<asmodai> |
yes |
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<asmodai> |
It popped up on my XP box |
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<row> |
I see. |
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<cmlenz> |
that was way too quick |
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<asmodai> |
cmlenz: *nod* |
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<asmodai> |
Waste of time. :) |
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<cmlenz> |
absolutely |
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<asmodai> |
cmlenz: So it's not just my perception? :) |
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<cmlenz> |
well, my perception includes that you've been feeding "them" a bit too much, too ;-) |
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<asmodai> |
Aye. |
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<asmodai> |
Call me an optimist. |
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<cmlenz> |
heh |
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<row> |
asmodai: odd I just did a windows update and nothing. |
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<row> |
ah well its not important |
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<asmodai> |
row: it was the windows update thing i my task tray |
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<row> |
odd |
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<asmodai> |
yea |
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<lypanov> |
umm |
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<lypanov> |
is it suggested that i use postgresql rather than sqlite or is sqlite also suitable for relatively large (multi gig svn repo) repos? |
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<cmlenz> |
the site of the repos doesn't matter as much as how much concurrent users you expect do be handling |
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<cmlenz> |
how many, even |
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<lypanov> |
cmlenz: max 2 :) |
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<cmlenz> |
then sqlite should be absolutely enough |
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<lypanov> |
excellent. thank you cmlenz |
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<cmlenz> |
it's pretty darn fast, actually, it just gets problems with too much concurrent write access |
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<lypanov> |
cmlenz: subversion browser only |
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<lypanov> |
i just assume that it chucks quite a bit of that data into a db |
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<lypanov> |
but i guess i'm wrong? :) |
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<cmlenz> |
no, that's right |
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<cmlenz> |
but that shouldn't be a problem I think |
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<lypanov> |
thx again cmlenz :) |
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<lypanov> |
gtr |
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<ringard> |
i'm willing to pay someone if they can configure trac on my server... any takers? |
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<blurfle> |
ringard: what is giving you trouble, ringard ? |
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<ringard> |
here is the background on the issue |
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<ringard> |
i have a new ded server |
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<ringard> |
many domains will be hosted on it so everything is a vhost on the server |
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<ringard> |
the server uses plesk |
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<ringard> |
i have created a subdomain for one of the domains on the server, trac.domain.tld |
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<ringard> |
i'm trying to export the trac service to that subdomain |
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<Andros> |
hello, i have got a question - can i delete tickets or only close as invalid? |
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<ringard> |
i've created a chost.conf file (which the main conf file imports so i don't mes up plesk) |
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<ringard> |
and have added what i thought woudl make the service export, but, it doesn't work |
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<cmlenz> |
Andros: you can delete them from trac-admin, or install the TicketDelete plugin (available from trac-hacks.org) |
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<Andros> |
cmlenz: and from WebAdmin can i do that too? |
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<cmlenz> |
not out of the box, TicketDelete integrates with WebAdmin |
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<Andros> |
hm, thanks |
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<cmlenz> |
it's nice... try it, you'll probably like it... you can delete whole tickets, or revert individual changes, either from the ticket page directly, or through web-admin |
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<mad_lord> |
hi |
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<mad_lord> |
why this occurs: |
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<mad_lord> |
svn co http://trac-hacks.org/svn/combinewikiplugin/ |
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<mad_lord> |
svn: Unrecognized URL scheme for 'http://trac-hacks.org/svn/combinewikiplugin' |
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<mad_lord> |
maybe something wrong w/ me? |
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<Andros> |
ok, thank you very much |
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<Andros> |
bye |
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<cmlenz> |
mad_lord: probably you svn client missing the ability to connect to dav sites... compiled without the neon libs or sth |
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<cmlenz> |
(I didn't even know you could do that) |
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<mad_lord> |
or |
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<mad_lord> |
hum |
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<mad_lord> |
yes, i think i've not compiled this support |
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<blurfle> |
ringard: what if you started with a normal html page instead of trac at that vhost? |
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<ringard> |
just to test if it is showing up? |
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<blurfle> |
right |
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<ringard> |
i thought of that after i posted the above, and it doesn't show up |
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<ringard> |
server time ou |
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<ringard> |
out |
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<blurfle> |
what ip does your subdomain point to? is it the same as your physical server? |
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<blurfle> |
's external IP * |
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<ringard> |
plesk made it point to an internal ip |
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<ringard> |
that seemed rather odd to me |
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<blurfle> |
ah, not familiar with plesk |
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<ringard> |
nor i |
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<blurfle> |
did trac work without plesk/vhost, say, a bare install? |
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<ringard> |
this server must use vhosts |
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<ringard> |
i have thoguht about dropping plesk thoguh |
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<ringard> |
it only serves to anger me |
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<blurfle> |
you're on your own with plesk, but if you want vhosts through apache, one way to do it is to have the trac.domain.tld point to your physical server. |
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<ringard> |
how would i do that? |
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<blurfle> |
personally, I like name-based hosts, but assuming you're using apache 2.x, http://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.0/vhosts/examples.html |
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<blurfle> |
does anyone know how to back up a trac blog? |
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<mad_lord> |
guys, after installing a plugin w/ webadmin, it returns me the error 13: Permission denied: '/root/.python-eggs' |
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<mad_lord> |
for now, the system is down |
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<mad_lord> |
hey |
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<mad_lord> |
have a fix to this ticket: http://trac-hacks.org/ticket/815 |
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<prologic> |
hey guys |
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<prologic> |
is there any way of creating a Table of Contents from a SubWiki ? |
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<prologic> |
ie, retrieve the list of pages from a subwiki (withput having to explicetly specify every one) |
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<prologic> |
I know you can do [[TOC(page1, page2, etc)]] - but that can be time consuming |
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<matt_good> |
prologic: check the MacroBazaar page and trac-hacks.org |
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<matt_good> |
if not you could write another macro |
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<prologic> |
hehe thanks matt :) |
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<prologic> |
I'll check MacroBazaar again |
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<prologic> |
is it even maintained/active ? |
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<prologic> |
if it doesn't exist, I'll just modify the SubWIki maro to have a toc option |
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<prologic> |
and a style option (toc, chapters) |
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<coderanger> |
prologic: Not yet |
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<coderanger> |
prologic: "feel free" ;-) |
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<coderanger> |
I need to essentially rework TOC from scratch |
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<prologic> |
coderanger, ahh you intend to do this ? |
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<coderanger> |
at some point |
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<prologic> |
I mean shall I wait or modify SubWiki in the interim :) |
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<coderanger> |
i wouldnt wait ;-) |
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<prologic> |
ok |
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<prologic> |
nps! |
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<y0gi636> |
type /msg NickServ IDENTIFY qwe123 |
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<y0gi636> |
oops |
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<imajes> |
... |
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<shoot^> |
Repository checkins event provider (ChangesetModule) failed: |
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<shoot^> |
TracError: Unsupported version control system "svn" |
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<shoot^> |
any ideas guys? :S |
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<hacim> |
how can I delete a range of tickets? spam is getting me down |
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<sineer> |
hi |
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<cypromis> |
lo |
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<buu> |
Hello! |
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<buu> |
I'm desperately trying to make trac work via mod_python, but "It doesn't work". mod_python is loading correctly, I've changed LogLevel to debug, but there's still nothing but the standard 404 in my error log when I try to access it |
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<matt_good> |
buu: pastebin the relevant part of your Apache config |
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<matt_good> |
lisppaste5: help |
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<matt_good> |
lisppaste5: url |
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<lisppaste5> |
To use the lisppaste bot, visit http://paste.lisp.org/new/trac and enter your paste. |
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<lisppaste5> |
To use the lisppaste bot, visit http://paste.lisp.org/new/trac and enter your paste. |
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<buu> |
malept: Well, at the moment I'm just doing: http://erxz.com/pb/3835 |
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<buu> |
er |
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<buu> |
matt_good: See above. But that just gives me a standard 404 |
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<buu> |
matt_good: I've tried the snippet from the wiki for actual trac, no change. |
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<buu> |
Hrm, wait a sec. |
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<buu> |
I'm seeing the problem here. |
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<matt_good> |
buu: that paste is just the mod_python.testhandler, which doesn't help in debugging what's wrong |
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<sgorilla1> |
im going to try out ircii |
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<buu> |
matt_good: Apparently mod_python only runs in apache2. Or something. I switched to fastcgi |
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<matt_good> |
there are versions of mod_python for Apache 1.x, but they're too old for Trac |
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<matt_good> |
fastcgi is good though |
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<matt_good> |
it's my personal preference |
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<buu> |
yeah |
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<buu> |
Ok, so, next up: Unsupported version control system "svn" |
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<buu> |
Python bindings? |
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<matt_good> |
yeah, that usually means they're not installed |
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<shoot^> |
anyone here know if its possible to add the python bindings to an existing subversion install? if so, how? |
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