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October 22, 2006

[00:01:35] <asmodai> Now that's funny, now it doesn't even load up.
[00:02:21] <asmodai> *thinks*
[00:02:22] <asmodai> Oh right
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[00:16:51] <asmodai> crap, solving issues you solved before sucks
[00:18:16] <coderanger> wow, I'm not even halfway through making my first django app, and already I wish I was using Trac
[00:18:42] <asmodai> coderanger: *grin*
[00:18:50] <asmodai> Django is nice, but has its limits.
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[00:20:09] <coderanger> I'm not so sure I would agree on the first count ...
[00:21:08] <coderanger> their whole mantra of this-will-let-you-keep-things-seperate is utter rot
[00:21:36] <coderanger> oh well, rm -rf it is
[00:21:46] <coderanger> I'll try something else tomorrow
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[00:30:04] <asmodai> haha
[00:30:05] <asmodai> GAH
[00:30:13] <asmodai> why can't I remember how I solved this unpacking issue
[00:32:18] <coderanger> hmm?
[00:33:25] <asmodai> ah
[00:34:53] <asmodai> there we go
[00:35:48] <asmodai> coderanger: hacking ticketdelete
[00:35:57] <coderanger> heh
[00:36:14] <asmodai> AttributeError: 'NoneType' object has no attribute 'evaluate'
[00:36:33] <asmodai> At least that's coming from genshi now, and not due to a malformed template
[00:37:12] <asmodai> mmm
[00:37:18] <asmodai> seems content_type is None
[00:40:06] <asmodai> At least getting somewhere now :)
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[01:05:39] <coderanger> cmlenz: You may want to update TicketDelete on t.e.o, it'l fix the bug cboos was seeing yesterday
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[01:06:26] <asmodai> coderanger: Heh, but not with 0.11 of course ;)
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[01:06:57] <coderanger> No, but t.e.o is still running 0.10 according to cboos
[01:07:08] <asmodai> I'd hope so :)
[01:07:33] <maru> hi, If I hit view changes under "revision log" on my test system I see following error in my apache log "svn_path_join: Assertion `is_canonical(base, blen)' failed" and the diff is not shown
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[01:07:50] <maru> browsing the svn repository works
[01:08:51] <asmodai> maru: off-topic: you're a circle in Japanese ;)
[01:09:02] <maru> round yes
[01:09:21] <maru> or a chica in brasilian :)
[01:09:23] <asmodai> That or a checkmark/ok-mark like in schools. :)
[01:09:44] <asmodai> Oh? Never encountered that when I was in Natal or São Paulo
[01:11:15] <maru> someone just told me once, but to clarify the naming choice, I got the name off a t-shirt from australia :)
[01:11:55] <maru> but this still does not solve my problem though :)
[01:12:47] <maru> hmm, it is also happening with the stand-alone server so it is now mod-python miss-config
[01:15:46] <asmodai> I honestly wouldn't know.
[01:17:45] <maru> ah found it in the buglist
[01:18:34] <s0undt3ch> anyone wrote a public secure password formencode.Schema?
[01:20:48] <maru> asmodai: It's fixed since 20.10, just applied the fix on my local install
[01:29:04] <asmodai> oh ok
[01:35:11] <maru> wow, this is fast
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[02:49:14] <cobaltsixty> chica?
[02:49:27] * cobaltsixty doesn't agree. btw, i'm in deep amazon :)
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[04:05:06] <__doc__> moin
[04:05:21] <__doc__> so like, when is trac going to replace silvercity with pygment?
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[04:58:03] <s0undt3ch> anyone arround with some formencode experience?
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[05:08:45] <asmodai> __doc__: silvercity with pygment? You mean ClearSilver with Genshi perhaps?
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[05:14:57] <__doc__> asmodai: nope
[05:15:10] <__doc__> asmodai: silvercity with pygment *is* what I mean
[05:15:18] <__doc__> asmodai: http://pygments.pocoo.org/
[05:18:52] <asmodai> cute logo
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[05:21:34] <blinx> hi
[05:21:55] <blinx> what for a db is a good choice?
[05:22:24] <Blackhex__> depends on your needs
[05:22:51] <blinx> simplicity
[05:22:56] <Blackhex__> sqlite
[05:23:00] <blinx> mysql is installed
[05:23:14] <blinx> my problem is to
[05:23:14] <blinx> my problem is to Database connection string [sqlite:db/trac.db]>
[05:23:32] <blinx> give the installer my db connection
[05:23:41] <blinx> I don't understand the example
[05:24:06] <blinx> http://trac.edgewall.org/wiki/TracEnvironment#DatabaseConnectionStrings
[05:24:22] <Blackhex__> it will use sqlite and db will be stored inside your environmetn in ./db/trac.db file
[05:28:04] <Blackhex__> what don't you understand?
[05:28:08] <__doc__> asmodai: pure python...
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[05:35:22] <Blackhex__> jachym: http://grass.itc.it/pipermail/grass5/2005-December/020411.html
[05:36:08] <Blackhex__> sorry wrong window..
[05:36:35] <asmodai> __doc__: But honestly, no idea.
[05:36:59] <asmodai> __doc__: You could just log it as an enhancement ticket
[05:39:28] <blinx> mysql> CREATE USER trac 'pass'
[05:39:32] <blinx> ->
[05:39:41] <blinx> and then?
[05:41:43] <Blackhex__> create some db
[05:42:19] <kemik> mysql support in trac was "so-so"
[05:42:53] <kemik> ime that is.. sqlite however works like a charm .. so far...
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[06:08:05] <HelloKittyy> anyone using trac and mod_python on apache1.3?
[06:08:47] <Blackhex_> no apache2
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[06:33:29] <sam`> hi
[06:33:40] <Blackhex_> hi
[06:33:44] <sam`> is there any documentation on using the genshi templates in trac ?
[06:33:56] <Blackhex_> don't know
[06:34:05] <sam`> i'm trying to find the same behavior than with clearsilver templates (aka just include a css file or something)
[06:34:31] <sam`> but the only thing i was able to do was seeing the content i put in the templates/site.html file added between the <html> and <head> markups
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[06:54:40] <cmlenz> sam`: http://groups.google.com/group/trac-users/browse_thread/thread/70487fb2c406c937/1398facc12615116#1398facc12615116
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[07:05:41] <sam`> cmlenz: inserting raw HTML in the wiki page (with a {{{ #!html ... }}} section) acts weird, too
[07:05:56] <sam`> it automatically closes the markups opened in the section
[07:06:12] <sam`> is there another way of making a two-column presentation then ?
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[07:07:07] <cmlenz> you'd need a macro, I suppose
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[07:09:35] <Dieterbe> how can i make a report that shows me _all_ milestones (title + extra info), and all tickets (also with the extra info) , sorted by milestone?
[07:10:34] <prologic> a couple of the reports that are there by default will achieve half of this
[07:10:39] <prologic> use bits and peices of those
[07:10:42] <Dieterbe> i know
[07:10:57] <Dieterbe> i started from the "show all tickets (also closed)"
[07:11:19] <prologic> and there's another one that does something with milestones
[07:11:28] <Dieterbe> but i can't get it to work, for example to also show the milestones that don't have any tickets
[07:12:01] <Dieterbe> and i can't see the sql source for the roadmap (=list of the milestones)
[07:12:02] <Dieterbe> so i'm stuck
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[07:34:37] <omry_> anyone noticed that google bot likes the trac source browser VERY VERY much?
[07:35:03] <Blackhex_> how do you mean?
[07:35:17] <Blackhex_> what you mean?
[07:35:25] <omry_> I realized I have 50k hits from google bots in about 50 days.
[07:35:30] <omry_> for pages.
[07:35:37] <omry_> seems like most are trac
[07:35:40] <omry_> and in it most are the repo
[07:35:55] <omry_> about 1000 hits of the repo browser
[07:36:20] <Blackhex_> :-)
[07:36:47] <omry_> thats an average of 20 times a day
[07:37:06] <omry_> just for http://firefang.net/projects/firestats/browser
[07:37:34] <Dieterbe> how can i make a report that shows me _all_ milestones (title + extra info), and all tickets (also with the extra info) , sorted by milestone?
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[08:38:52] <vervain> I'm trying to add myself to the cc list on ticket #1106 but as reported in #3775 it is rejected as spam. I'd like to contribute but can't seem to locate a signup for the edgewall trac either.
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[08:52:48] <wereHamster> why doesn't '(?i)-mobile-phones.org' forbid the user to use '-mobile-phones.org' in the text on a wiki page?
[08:54:03] <wereHamster> do I need to update my spam plugin?
[08:54:13] <wereHamster> TracSpamFilter 0.1dev-r3696
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[09:06:07] <sgorilla78> how do you set the egg cache directory?
[09:06:22] <sgorilla78> ExtractionError: Can't extract file(s) to egg cache
[09:06:30] <sgorilla78> [Errno 13] Permission denied: '/root/.python-eggs'
[09:06:41] <sgorilla78> /root/.python-eggs
[09:06:54] <sgorilla78> i assume i need to change the egg cache directory
[09:07:01] <sgorilla78> not sure where i chagne it
[09:12:00] <sgorilla78> how do i set up PYTHON_EGG_CACHE in apache as an environment variable?
[09:13:03] <Blackhex_> SetEnv PYTHON_EGG_CACHE <path_to_env>/plugins
[09:18:14] <sgorilla78> Blackhex_: thanks
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[10:15:24] <sgorilla78> is there a way to run trac plugins unzipped from there eggs in the local plugin directory?
[10:16:25] <prologic> yo cobaltsixty
[10:16:34] <prologic> this bug is still happening with the BlogShow macro
[10:16:50] <prologic> even though I've fixed the time values for that page that was inserted with % as the time
[10:16:52] <prologic> File "/usr/lib/python2.4/site-packages/trac/web/main.py", line 224, in dispatc
[10:16:53] <prologic> h
[10:16:53] <prologic> resp = chosen_handler.process_request(req)
[10:16:53] <prologic> File "build/bdist.linux-i686/egg/tBlog/web_ui.py", line 216, in process_reques
[10:16:53] <prologic> t
[10:16:53] <prologic> File "build/bdist.linux-i686/egg/tBlog/web_ui.py", line 267, in _generate_blog
[10:16:55] <prologic> StopIteration
[10:16:57] <prologic> it's really weird
[10:17:17] <prologic> it works just fine on 2 of our other instnaces, where I've also fixed that time value for the TimingAndBillingEstimationManual page
[10:23:06] <sgorilla78> prologic: yo, i have a remote debugger you can insert into that code and get an ipython
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[10:43:51] <prologic> I don't think a remote debugger will help somehow
[10:43:56] <prologic> I have the traceback in the logs
[10:44:04] <prologic> I know why it's doing that, but not sure what's causing it this time
[10:44:17] <prologic> coderanger and I worked out it was a invalid time value in the wiki table
[10:44:26] <prologic> "%" vs. an integral number (ts)
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[10:50:25] <sgorilla78> prologic: you can insert the debugger in the code, so when it hits the traceback it opens up a port
[10:50:29] <sgorilla78> and you can inspect the objects
[10:52:36] <sgorilla78> trac needs something when it crashes with traceback, you can attach a debugger to it
[10:52:47] <sgorilla78> then look around and see what is going on, be able to move back up the stack
[10:55:22] <asmodai> yay, more bitten spam :D
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[11:18:57] <cmlenz> asmodai: yeah, cleaning it up now :-(
[11:19:28] <asmodai> cmlenz: sucks :(
[11:23:49] <lisppaste5> asmodai pasted "backtrace render" at http://paste.lisp.org/display/28505
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[11:52:58] <Dieterbe> how can i make a report that shows me _all_ milestones (title + extra info), and all tickets (also with the extra info) , sorted by
[11:53:12] <Dieterbe> how can i make a report that shows me _all_ milestones (title + extra info), and all tickets (also with the extra info) , sorted by
[11:53:17] <Dieterbe> oops, sorry
[11:53:28] <Dieterbe> sorted by milestone*
[12:21:20] <sgorilla78> is there a way to manage subversion permissions inside trac?
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[12:28:14] <coderanger> sgorilla78: There is an old plugin on trac-hacks for it
[12:28:19] <coderanger> Not great, but it works
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[12:29:17] <sgorilla78> coderanger: is it the authz manager plugin?
[12:29:22] <coderanger> yeah
[12:29:29] <sgorilla78> ok cool
[12:29:40] <sgorilla78> i guess i can just modify the svn conf by hand for now
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[12:43:29] <sgorilla78> is there a plugin that will let you change logo, upload one, etc ?
[12:44:49] <coderanger> [header_logo] section in trac.ini
[12:45:18] <coderanger> SiteUpload plugin if you want to upload a new file remotely (or you can point it at your subversion repo and store the file there)
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[13:23:56] <thm> Hi! is there a time frame for the setuptools branch to merged? Currently, 'setup.py bdist_rpm' isn't working :(
[13:25:32] <coderanger> cmlenz has been pretty busy with Genshi and all that
[13:25:46] <coderanger> not sure if he has had a chance to get that started again
[13:26:07] <cmlenz> has setup.py bdist_rpm ever worked?
[13:26:23] <cmlenz> well, in the last couple of releases, that is
[13:28:32] <thm> yes it has. and someone (you?) deleted rpm_install.sh
[13:29:02] <cmlenz> oh
[13:29:09] <cmlenz> I didn't think anyone was actually using that
[13:29:22] <cmlenz> I can put it back in that case
[13:29:40] <cmlenz> the related code in setup.py is such a huge friggin mess that I thought there wasn't a chance it'd still work, sorry
[13:30:02] <thm> yeah, the code looks awkward
[13:30:06] <thm> anyway
[13:30:28] <coderanger> there are RPMs for most distros already though
[13:30:44] <thm> btw, MANIFEST.in is missing templates/*.html
[13:31:01] <thm> coderanger: I'm following trunk, because of plugin development
[13:31:51] <cmlenz> thm, so hopefully you'll be around to test the setuptools branch for rpm-compat
[13:32:05] <cmlenz> because I don't know much about rpms, and must admit I don't care enough to learn
[13:32:21] <cmlenz> which doesn't mean I wouldn't appreciate help in that area :-P
[13:32:38] <thm> ok, can have a look at it
[13:34:08] <asmodai> oh
[13:34:12] <asmodai> speaking of which
[13:34:26] <asmodai> cmlenz: I am working on automated Linux builds for two projects I help out on
[13:34:59] <asmodai> I could always add rpm spec files for trac as well
[13:35:01] <asmodai> cmlenz: http://build.opensuse.org/
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[13:50:48] <cmlenz> thm: I've added it back now
[13:51:14] <cmlenz> asmodai: as I said, I'm fairly ignorant about RPMs... so I'm not the right guy to ping about that :-P
[13:51:24] <thm> thx
[13:51:43] <asmodai> cmlenz: I can try my hand at a specfile
[13:51:49] <asmodai> cmlenz: got 2 to write anyway
[13:57:22] <coderanger> cmlenz: Is there a guide somewhere for using Genshi with TG?
[13:57:55] <cmlenz> coderanger: there's an example in the genshi repos
[13:58:01] <cmlenz> (and source dist)
[13:59:08] <coderanger> roger
[14:01:13] <asmodai> Wilco
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[14:25:46] <matt_good> cmlenz: I uploaded the Pygments plugin to trac-hacks last night
[14:26:26] <matt_good> it includes the mime-based renderer, and also a macro provider for the language aliases
[14:26:47] <matt_good> which means you can use {{{#!pycon to color Python console sessions :)
[14:29:49] <coderanger> cmlenz, matt_good: I'm getting 'NameError: Variable "widget" is not defined'
[14:30:13] <coderanger> line 152 in genshi.eval
[14:30:39] <matt_good> coderanger: running the example project, or in your own code?
[14:31:13] <coderanger> Standard quickstart + changed the defaultview + the templates from the example
[14:32:02] <coderanger> oh i see, thats coming from the root controller
[14:32:07] <matt_good> yeah
[14:32:47] <coderanger> I should write this up at some point ;-)
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[14:33:08] <_gass_> hello there
[14:33:27] <_gass_> i am trying to provide a patch for trac to use /etc for wiki-defaults
[14:33:29] <coderanger> matt_good: Why is it a TG convention to use "return dict()" instead of "return {}"?
[14:33:48] <coderanger> _gass_: It is being worked on, for not just edit trac/siteconfig.py
[14:33:52] <_gass_> where is define the function _p used at the end of setup.py�
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[14:34:12] <_gass_> coderanger: i am trying to modify the 0.10 debian version
[14:34:21] <_gass_> coderanger: at install
[14:34:38] <_gass_> coderanger: it seems that trac uses only one path for all
[14:34:46] <_gass_> coderanger: moving one, you move all
[14:35:45] <coderanger> set __default__wiki_dir__
[14:36:29] <coderanger> line 39 in setup.py
[14:37:12] <_gass_> coderanger: but that does not affect the place where they are installed
[14:37:34] <_gass_> that is affected by line 234
[14:37:54] <coderanger> okay, so change that too
[14:37:58] <_gass_> the function _p uses root_dir + prefix
[14:38:07] <_gass_> so
[14:38:08] <matt_good> I'm not sure /etc is really the right place for the Wiki content
[14:38:28] <coderanger> matt_good: Yeah, wasn't there just a thread on trac-dev about this?
[14:38:30] <_gass_> root_dir + prefix + /etc/trac/wiki_default = /usr/etc/....
[14:38:32] <matt_good> I could see putting the global trac.ini