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October 25, 2006

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[02:48:06] <py_> hello
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[03:10:24] <mcf501> hey, im trying to install trac on OSX 10.4 and i ran phython setup.py install, although i dont have trac-admin in my shell, any ideas?
[03:12:37] <mcf501> oh yeah and i got trac from the svn trunk
[03:15:57] <mcf501> it looks like it was installed in /Library/Python/2.3/site-packages. Anyway, i'd like to try trac out but im not getting anywhere
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[03:25:13] <mcf501> ok i found trac-admin but i get this error when i try and run it. http://www.rafb.net/paste/results/FGnp5Y79.html
[03:43:11] <otaku42> mcf501: no mac os x experience here, but... did you check the instructions on http://trac.edgewall.org/wiki/TracOnOsx ?
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[04:04:41] <cmlenz> mcf501: you need to install genshi (http://genshi.edgewall.org/wiki/Download)
[04:09:18] <mcf501> after i install genshi will i have to reinstall trac?
[04:10:44] <mcf501> nvm, thanks everyone for your help
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[04:34:21] <gans20|malchik> hi there
[04:34:45] <gans20|malchik> does anybody have success to install python bindings for svn1.4 on debian?
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[04:36:46] <exarkun> yes
[04:43:58] <gans20|malchik> exarkun, did you bloged this? :) can you give me any clue on how to do this?
[04:44:26] <exarkun> I just downloaded the source and compiled it
[04:44:53] <exarkun> Hmm
[04:45:12] <exarkun> apr-utils was a hassle, I guess
[04:45:14] <exarkun> I forget the details though
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[04:57:20] <vanderkerkoff> hello everyone, got an rss question for you
[04:57:32] <vanderkerkoff> we can export our timeline via rss
[04:58:02] <vanderkerkoff> but when I try to expose that feed in a news reader aggregator thingy it can't handle something properly
[04:58:23] <vanderkerkoff> I've got a username password entry box, and put the correct uname and poassword in
[04:58:34] <vanderkerkoff> but no items come down the chute
[04:59:44] <vanderkerkoff> the whole trac site is locked down to username password access, so I was wondering if this is caused by the fact that if I put a trac url into my browser that goes deeper than the front page, I get asked uname pword, but I don't go the url I put in, I go to the front page
[05:00:09] <vanderkerkoff> which has no RSS in the url, so no items come down chute
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[05:05:36] <vanderkerkoff> Has anyone used netnewswire to see their tractimeline rss output?
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[05:09:29] <gans20|malchik> exarkun, did you build trac from trunk? or 1.4.0-rc5 ?
[05:10:19] <cmlenz> vanderkerkoff: yeah
[05:12:02] <exarkun> gans20|malchik: you mean svn? 1.4
[05:12:20] <gans20|malchik> exarkun, yes
[05:12:51] <gans20|malchik> bindings comes with svn sources isn't it?
[05:14:46] <exarkun> yes
[05:15:11] <vanderkerkoff> cmlenz, did you have any login security on the site?
[05:19:06] <cmlenz> ah, nope... it's been some time since I tested that
[05:19:16] <cmlenz> it should work with http auth, no?
[05:22:18] <vanderkerkoff> I"m using a password file when I'm starting trac to set who can login or not
[05:22:50] <vanderkerkoff> but netnewswire seems to be rerouting itself to the front page of the trac site, even with the password and uname in it
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[05:41:49] <didier> hi
[05:42:33] <didier> is the Table of Contents generated on the http://trac.edgewall.org/ a macro ?
[05:43:22] <otaku42> didier: which table of contents?
[05:45:48] <didier> otaku42: it's in the TracGuide http://trac.edgewall.org/wiki/TracGuide
[05:54:42] <vanderkerkoff> Is there a way to remove the security on the timeline, but leave the security on the rest of a trac site?
[05:55:25] <vanderkerkoff> Could I put something into my htaccess file to allow form all which will override the main security?
[05:55:31] <vanderkerkoff> soryr, my httpd.conf
[05:56:28] <otaku42> didier: check http://trac.edgewall.org/wiki/TracGuide?format=txt and have a look at line two -> yes, it's generated by a macro named TracGuideToc
[05:58:00] <didier> otaku42: ok I saw it ... I downloaded the tocmacro.zip from trac-hacks.org
[06:09:33] <gans20|malchik> I was needed gcc 4+ to build trac... gcc3.3+ couldn't make it
[06:21:27] <gans20|malchik> Running all tests in getopt_tests.py...FAILURE
[06:21:34] <gans20|malchik> is this bad?
[06:22:10] <gans20|malchik> sorry, thats for svn... wrong channel
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[06:31:38] <morfoh> hi ... do I have to do something special if I want to run trac-admin as non-root to install a trac instance within the users $HOME ?
[06:32:53] <morfoh> http://rafb.net/paste/results/lpz8Gh58.html
[06:33:02] <morfoh> ^ this is the error I get
[06:34:01] <morfoh> while running: trac-admin /home/foo/myproject initenv
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[07:23:09] <morfoh> btw ... is the syntax highlighting problem with silvercity 0.9.6 still a problem ?
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[07:36:30] <cmlenz> morfoh: if there's not been a new release since, yes... version 0.9.6 simply has a bug that breaks silvercity usage in trac
[07:40:08] <morfoh> cmlenz: ok ... thanks, so I will go and downdate
[07:41:01] <morfoh> cmlenz: do you have an idea why the mentioned trac-admin initenv fails ?
[07:41:29] <cmlenz> check trac/siteconfig.py
[07:41:51] <cmlenz> looks like it's missing an entry
[07:41:58] <cmlenz> __default_conf_dir__, namely
[07:42:43] <morfoh> cmlenz: ok
[07:43:40] <morfoh> cmlenz: you're right
[07:43:50] <morfoh> there are just 3 entries
[07:44:08] <morfoh> __default_templates_dir__ = '/usr/share/trac/templates'
[07:44:08] <morfoh> __default_htdocs_dir__ = '/usr/share/trac/htdocs'
[07:44:09] <morfoh> __default_wiki_dir__ = '/usr/share/trac/wiki-default'
[07:44:49] <morfoh> shouldn't that be __default_conf_dir__ there by default ?
[07:45:03] <cmlenz> yeah, but maybe that file was generated by a previous install
[07:45:14] <cmlenz> you can just add it manually
[07:45:23] <cmlenz> and also __default_plugins_dir__ = "..."
[07:45:30] <morfoh> ok
[07:45:38] <morfoh> what is the __default_conf_dir__ ?
[07:46:33] <morfoh> btw, could it be that that it this problem is connected to the fact that clearsilver wasn't available in the first time ?
[07:50:36] <cmlenz> nope
[07:50:44] <morfoh> ok
[07:50:55] <cmlenz> is that a fresh install?
[07:50:59] <morfoh> yes
[07:51:02] <cmlenz> or did you have trac already installed?
[07:51:06] <morfoh> nope
[07:51:08] <cmlenz> what version?
[07:51:12] <morfoh> latest
[07:51:15] <morfoh> 0.10
[07:51:22] <cmlenz> hmm, that's weird then
[07:51:27] <cmlenz> not on windows, right?
[07:51:35] <morfoh> of course not :)
[07:52:14] <cmlenz> how did you install it? from the source tarball?
[07:52:44] <morfoh> yes ... we compiled a vserver including trac and friends from source
[07:53:29] <morfoh> in fact we want to use trac for issue tracking for our "distro build kit" :)
[07:54:07] <cmlenz> nice
[07:54:51] <exarkun> Hey um
[07:54:53] <exarkun> $ svn up
[07:54:53] <exarkun> svn: Unrecognized URL scheme for 'http://svn.edgewall.com/repos/trac/trunk'
[07:55:28] <morfoh> cmlenz: yep ... I like trac and I used it a couple of times and till now I had no issues setting it up
[07:55:47] <cmlenz> exarkun: neon not compiled into svn client
[07:56:35] <morfoh> cmlenz: many thanks ... seems to work now ... "Indexing repository"
[07:56:39] <morfoh> :D
[07:56:47] <cmlenz> cool :-)
[07:56:49] <exarkun> Ugg.
[07:57:13] <exarkun> Does svn:// work for the trac repo?
[07:58:02] <morfoh> cmlenz: do you have an idea what could trigger the problem that default conf and plugin dir are not there ?
[07:58:21] <cmlenz> exarkun: no, only http
[07:58:25] <cmlenz> (well, and https)
[07:58:39] <cmlenz> morfoh: nope, it's somewhat baffling
[07:58:44] <morfoh> cmlenz: I will build a fresh trac and friends locally and check if i have the same problem
[08:01:59] <morfoh> cmlenz: install successfully finished :D
[08:02:22] <morfoh> now I'm going to configure lighttpd
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[08:13:20] <exarkun> clearsilver is gone completely in trunk?
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[08:16:13] <coderanger> exarkun: No, but its optional
[08:16:31] <exarkun> if I have .cs templates, how do I keep using them?
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[08:16:59] <coderanger> it is handled per-plugin/module
[08:17:23] <coderanger> So if they are for builtin modules, you will need to port the templates
[08:17:43] <exarkun> So much for updating today, I guess
[08:18:29] <coderanger> Porting a template is pretty straight forward
[08:18:40] <exarkun> want to port some templates for me? :)
[08:20:44] <coderanger> Maybe later tonight, gotta go take my car to get fixed
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[09:21:27] <sineer> hi!
[09:21:55] <sineer> cmlenz, are you around? I have a bitten question/error I'd like to discuss ;)
[09:22:11] <cmlenz> yeah
[09:22:20] <sineer> cool :)
[09:22:35] <sineer> I get this error from bitten-master and then nothing happen:
[09:22:46] <sineer> actually, I'll pastebin it
[09:24:39] <sineer> cmlenz, here's the traceback of the TypeError I get from bitten-master
[09:24:47] <sineer> http://pastebin.ca/221257
[09:25:03] <cmlenz> ouch, that sucks
[09:25:06] <sineer> also, at first I thought i would hand there but it doesn't. It does try to execute the build soon after..
[09:25:09] <cmlenz> doesn't even show the real error :-P
[09:25:17] <sineer> :(
[09:25:25] <cmlenz> what version are you using?
[09:25:32] <sineer> the log doesn't show more info.. latest trunk
[09:25:49] <sineer> Status against revision: 375
[09:26:33] <sineer> but it seems to execute anyway.. so perhaps I can ignore this error
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[09:27:19] <cmlenz> sineer: http://bitten.cmlenz.net/ticket/136 has a patch
[09:27:23] <cmlenz> I should apply that :-P
[09:27:39] <cmlenz> but don't wait for me, I'm pretty busy with other things ATM
[09:27:47] <sineer> also, is there a way I can tell bitten-slave not to delete the files it generates?
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[09:27:59] <sineer> cmlenz, ok I'll have a look at that patch, thanks
[09:28:17] <cmlenz> check bitten-slave --help
[09:28:21] <cmlenz> it should have an option like that
[09:28:25] <cmlenz> --keep-files or sth
[09:28:46] <TheHaas> hello
[09:28:51] <sineer> thanks cmlenz :)
[09:29:05] <TheHaas> has anyone seen this when rendering with Enscript:
[09:29:07] <TheHaas> 'states' is not recognized as an internal or external command
[09:29:27] <TheHaas> i searched the tickets but didn't find anything.
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[09:31:54] <cmlenz> isn't that silvercity?
[09:32:23] <TheHaas> I don't have Silvercity installed
[09:32:46] <TheHaas> the whole, long line is:
[09:32:47] <TheHaas> 2006-10-25 11:08:19,543 Trac[api] WARNING: HTML preview using <trac.mimeview.enscript.EnscriptRenderer object at 0x00C39ED0> failed (Running (C:\enscript-1.6.3-9-bin\bin\enscript --color -h -q --language=html -p - -Ejava) failed: 0, 'states' is not recognized as an internal or external command,
[09:34:19] <cmlenz> no idea
[09:34:45] <TheHaas> hmm . . .I tried to submit a ticket, but I got a Aksimet error
[09:35:02] <sineer> cmlenz, it seems that the archive bitten made for me corrupted all the filenames by removing the first letter of every file/directory names!
[09:35:09] <sineer> ever seen that before?
[09:35:35] <cmlenz> uh, yeah... but I don't really remember :-(
[09:35:45] <cmlenz> TheHaas: looks like Akismet is having some problems ATM
[09:36:32] <TheHaas> cmlenz: okay, I'll try again later. I was *hoping* it was a dumb config thing
[09:36:49] <cmlenz> TheHaas: I'm pretty sure it's not a trac problem, though
[09:36:55] <cmlenz> try calling enscript from the cmdline
[09:37:10] <TheHaas> yeah, I did that. It worked fine
[09:39:22] <TheHaas> cmlenz: trac calls it like this, right?:
[09:39:25] <TheHaas> C:\enscript-1.6.3-9-bin\bin\enscript --color -h -q --language=html -p - -Ejava < Converter.java
[09:40:24] <cmlenz> pretty much, yeah
[09:40:28] <cmlenz> weird
[09:40:42] <cmlenz> what does the console say if you try the command "states"?
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[09:41:16] <cmlenz> i.e. no enscript, just that entered on the windows command line
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[09:41:58] <TheHaas> hmm
[09:42:00] <TheHaas> states: couldn't open definition file `states.st': No such file or directory
[09:43:12] <TheHaas> ahh. states is in c:\enscript\bin
[09:45:55] <TheHaas> "States is an awk-alike text processing tool with some state machine extensions. It is designed for program source code highlighting and to similar tasks where state information helps input processing."
[09:46:10] <TheHaas> I'll look at it and figure it out. thanks for your time
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[09:51:45] <sineer> cmlenz, want me to file a ticket about the first char of the filenames and directories names in the root directory (only) that get truncated (ie, trunk becomes runk/ but everything under /runk is fine)
[09:53:35] <cmlenz> is that http://bitten.cmlenz.net/ticket/139 ?
[09:53:58] <cmlenz> hmm, maybe not
[09:54:05] <cmlenz> sure, file a ticket then :-)
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[10:03:33] <sineer> cmlenz, I've tried #139 patch and it didn't fix my prob. I'll try to fix it else I'll file a bug.
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[10:16:41] <blinx> trac runs
[10:17:09] <blinx> but I have a problem: I have some domains but only on one domain trac should be available. In the howto is written:(mod_fastcgi.conf) "/trac" => and if I set this to "domain.de" trac is not available at this domain..
[10:17:19] <blinx> how can I realize that?
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[10:46:50] <stevo_inco> Guys, how can I get track to send e-mail notifications to owners when their tickets are updated or modified?
[10:47:06] <xris> asked about this yesterday, but never got a reply.. Does anyone know of a fix for the example in TracReports to get bold text in a report row? If this doesn't work, it really should be removed as an example.
[10:50:16] <blinx> so, trac is available at pylucid.net but not so I want it...
[10:50:21] <blinx> anyone an idea?
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[10:54:05] <blinx> pylucid.net/test <- there it is normal..
[10:56:59] <blinx> nobody here?
[11:02:00] <xris> stevo_inco: I believe there's a setting in trac.ini about "always notify"...
[11:02:34] <stevo_inco> shoot... I didn't even think about it. I'll look man.
[11:07:50] <blinx> what can I do?
[11:07:53] <blinx> no tip?
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[11:10:58] <gans20|malchik> where is the best place to declare "export PYTHONPATH=/usr/local/lib/svn-python/" ?
[11:11:44] <coderanger_> gans20|malchik: Use a .pth file
[11:11:59] <gans20|malchik> coderanger_: where is it?
[11:12:14] <coderanger_> echo "/usr/local/lib/svn-python" >>/usr/local/lib/python2.?/site-packages/subversion.pth
[11:12:25] <gans20|malchik> ah... ok
[11:12:26] <coderanger_> or whereever your python libs are (for the second path)
[11:12:37] <gans20|malchik> thanks
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[11:15:22] <xris> blinx: please explain in a little more detail what you're trying to do
[11:15:39] <gans20|malchik> FINALLY!
[11:15:54] <gans20|malchik> :) that works! :)
[11:16:09] <gans20|malchik> coderanger_, thanks once again :)
[11:18:54] <coderanger_> No prob
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[11:21:44] <blinx> xris: I want that I can access to trac at pylucid.net
[11:21:55] <blinx> but it doesn't work
[11:22:02] <blinx> one moment please
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[11:23:06] <coderanger_> blinx: What frontend are you using
[11:23:12] <blinx> coderanger_: lighty
[11:23:18] <blinx> coderanger_: or what you mean?
[11:23:24] <coderanger_> set the TRAC_URI_ROOT env variable
[11:23:26] <coderanger_> to "/"
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[11:26:20] <catlee> Is there a way to attempt to merge in a previous user's changes when conflicts occur editing the same wiki page?
[11:26:27] <coderanger_> catlee: Not currently
[11:26:31] <TheHaas> cmlenz: now that I've had my lunch break, I figured out the problem with enscript
[11:26:42] <TheHaas> I need to set StatesBinary in enscript.cfg
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[11:30:39] <blinx> sorry, 5 min
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[11:38:53] <dfc> anyone ever tried to keep a working trac installation under a distributed rcs system like darcs/git/bzr?
[11:39:24] <coderanger_> There are plugins for all of those
[11:39:29] <dfc> I would really like to be able to make a local branch of the wiki and take it with me on the road and then merge any additions when i regained connectivity
[11:39:34] <coderanger_> Can't speak to how well they work, but they do exist
[11:39:34] <dfc> not really a plugin
[11:39:43] <coderanger_> Ohh, I see what you mean
[11:39:56] <catlee> Oh, that reminds me, what is the "revisions" table in the database for? How does trac know about new revisions in your svn repo? What does the resync command do?
[11:39:57] <dfc> it seems like it would not be impossible
[11:40:13] <coderanger_> It has been discussed, but I don't know of anyone who has actually tried it
[11:41:01] <coderanger_> catlee: It checks if the youngest rev in the repo is the same as in the table, resync just clears out the tables and forces it to cache the data again
[11:41:34] <catlee> Ah, so the stuff in the db is just a cache
[11:42:26] <coderanger_> Yes, the subversion API is painfully slow, so allows Trac to actually be usable
[11:42:33] <coderanger_> er, so the cache
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[11:59:01] <catlee> Can I point trac at multiple repositories?
[11:59:07] <morfoh> does anyone knows how to setup trac + lighttpd so that I get rid of the trailing /trac in the URL ? I set "TRAC_URI_ROOT" => "/"
[11:59:35] <coderanger_> catlee: No
[12:00:02] <blinx> re
[12:00:52] <blinx> coderanger_: sorry, I had helped my father with something
[12:03:12] <blinx> coderanger_: can we come back to my problem?
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[12:03:32] <coderanger_> blinx: Did that not fix it?
[12:04:02] <blinx> set the TRAC_URI_ROOT env variable
[12:04:03] <blinx> [20:16] < coderanger_> to "/"
[12:04:04] <blinx> ?
[12:04:08] <blinx> mom
[12:05:43] <coderanger_> blinx: Set TRAC_URI_ROOT to "/"
[12:05:52] <coderanger_> yeah
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[12:07:36] <blinx> have I to add this variable?
[12:07:56] <blinx> http://phpfi.com/167651
[12:08:04] <blinx> that is only what I have now..
[12:08:18] <coderanger_> yes, add it to the bin-environment
[12:08:29] <blinx> a new variable?
[12:08:32] <blinx> ok mom
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[12:10:55] <blinx> http://pylucid.net/
[12:11:00] <blinx> nothing changed..
[12:11:14] <coderanger_> That actually made it worse, hmmm
[12:11:40] <coderanger_> cmlenz: You've probably played with Lighty more than I have, any ideas?
[12:11:50] <blinx> played... ;-)
[12:11:56] <mnemoc> hi, where is the list of enviroment variables trac accept on fastcgi mode?
[12:12:09] <cmlenz> I haven't ever played with lighty (in the sense of getting anything serious running)
[12:12:11] <coderanger_> mnemoc: What do you mean?
[12:12:19] <mnemoc> TRAC_blah = something
[12:12:20] <coderanger_> cmlenz: I thought t.e.o is running on lighty?
[12:12:34] <coderanger_> mnemoc: TRAC_ENV and TRAC_ENV_PARENT_DIR are the two main ones
[12:12:39] <cmlenz> yeah, but that was jonas, I can't even edit the config all on my own :-P
[12:13:12] <mnemoc> i'm trying to setup a 0.10 to handle a single project at / .... but it's handling /[^/]*/ too :( ... i can write anything there
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[12:13:21] <coderanger_> heh, it seems to be screwing up with the base URI detection
[12:13:53] <coderanger_> mnemoc: Well Trac handles all URLs below it, so that sounds normal
[12:13:57] <cmlenz> mnemoc: that's a known bug in lighty
[12:14:19] <cmlenz> http://trac.lighttpd.net/trac/ticket/729
[12:14:19] <mnemoc> but /anything/browser == /browser ?
[12:14:50] <mnemoc> oh
[12:14:58] <coderanger_> cmlenz: Thats when blinx is seeing too
[12:15:19] <cmlenz> you guys better nag the lighty folks about that ;-)
[12:15:26] <mnemoc> hehe
[12:15:33] <morfoh> cmlenz: that might be an idea :)
[12:15:54] <mnemoc> everyone else having the same problem?
[12:15:55] <coderanger_> blinx: So try removing the '/' from the end of the mapping
[12:17:19] <blinx> the one I added just?
[12:17:49] <coderanger_> blinx: No, to the URL mapping
[12:18:18] <coderanger_> Or at least I think thats what the ticket is saying
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[12:19:51] <blinx> nothing
[12:22:14] <cmlenz> we had to actually patch trac on t.e.o to work around the problem
[12:22:45] * cmlenz pasted http://pastie.caboo.se/19580
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[12:31:38] <tzafrir_laptop> hi folks
[12:31:59] <tzafrir_laptop> I managed to use rm -rf on the wrong directory
[12:33:12] <thm> hmm, current setuptools branch doesn't let me edit wiki pages :(
[12:34:12] <blinx> coderanger_: nobody can help me there at the moment..
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[12:35:40] <tzafrir_laptop> As a resu