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October 26, 2006

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[00:05:09] <vanderkerkoff> heelo everyone, anyone had any problems updating from 0.9.3 to 0.9.6 running on Gentoo?
[00:05:46] <vanderkerkoff> I've just ran the gentoo emerge script, I can see 0.9.6 has been installed and I"ve restarted the trac daemon but it's still showing as 0.9.3 on the site
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[00:07:25] <vanderkerkoff> I think I'll try the gentoo chatroom, see if anyone has any ideas there
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[00:35:10] <coderanger> frankg: I think Alec is
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[00:55:38] <didier> bonjour
[00:55:43] <didier> oops, hello :)
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[02:04:09] <jave> hello
[02:04:38] <jave> is it possible to get some kind of hieracical/graphical overview of links between wiki pages?
[02:05:16] <jave> like, given a page, show all the pages it links to, and in turn all the pages those links to, etc
[02:07:30] <didier> jave: like in MediaWiki :) ? yes it would be a great feature !
[02:09:57] <jave> how can you do it in mediawiki then?
[02:12:53] <didier> jave: it's already in the engine of mediawiki. I don't know if this feature exist on trac
[02:14:33] <jave> ok, but I havent seen the feature in mediawiki. do you know how to see it in action given a mediawiki installation? not with trac
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[03:41:15] <otaku42> question: how can i call a macro (better: the method that implements the functionality of the macro) from within a .cs-template? is it possible at all?
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[03:48:44] <cmlenz> otaku42: no
[03:49:53] <otaku42> cmlenz: hmm, too bad. thanks for the info.
[03:50:10] <cmlenz> it'll be possible with genshi templates in 0.11 though
[03:51:28] <otaku42> cmlenz: i would be willing to try 0.11 during development phase, but i don't want to run it on a production site :)
[03:53:06] <otaku42> cmlenz: is there any way (in 0.10) for a plugin to add something to the generated content in certain conditions? the idea i have in mind is:
[03:53:48] <otaku42> cmlenz: i want to make use of TracNav (see: http://svn.ipd.uka.de/trac/javaparty/wiki/TracNav ), but would like to have it included automatically on all wiki pages, without the need to call the macro on each of them
[03:55:07] <otaku42> cmlenz: i could hardcode the navigation stuff in the wiki template, but then i had to touch the template whenever i want to change the navigation stuff. having the navigation links on a wiki page would make things easier in my case
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[04:24:26] <gakman> trac is cool!
[04:24:49] <alect> haha
[04:24:54] <alect> true though
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[05:33:03] <asmodai> alect!
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[05:55:48] <absorb> Hi, I'm trying to migrate bugzilla 2.22 to Trac, however the contrib script (bugzilla2trac.py) is not capable of handling this yet due to the schema changes > bugzilla 2.19.
[05:56:06] <absorb> I was hoping someone already made a version 2.21+ compatible conversion script?
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[06:07:55] <asmodai> absorb: nope, on my list of things to do, but no time path yet
[06:08:27] <absorb> ok :( We are looking at migrating to TRAC here.. but this is currently what's holding us back.
[06:08:57] <asmodai> Shouldn't be too hard to hack into the script
[06:10:56] <absorb> I wish I could say the same ;)
[06:11:09] <absorb> One of the few languages I never bothered with is Python
[06:11:48] <absorb> Should I create a ticket on trac.edgewall.
[06:12:01] <asmodai> Do so, I will get annoyed by cmlenz and people
[06:12:20] <absorb> :>
[06:12:57] <asmodai> I might be able to get some done when I am back at work next week, barring any big stuff I need to work on
[06:13:37] <absorb> Would be nice, when I look at the schema changes.. they're not that big; so I think it will be a (couple of) little fix(es).
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[06:37:06] <xorAxAx> hi, we have an issue with a pretty vanilla trac installation running on fastcgi (similar issues with mod_py as well) - at some point, threads start "piling up" and using gdb shows that all are hanging in an obmalloc lock
[06:37:15] <xorAxAx> (it uses sqlite on py 2.4)
[06:37:51] <xorAxAx> the commit_as value is showing 5 GB, constantly inccreasing. the affected fastcgi process stopped replying to requests
[06:38:24] <xorAxAx> our current workaround is to kill the trac process often enough to avoid problems
[06:44:14] <alect> never heard of that one before
[06:47:23] <blinx> hi
[07:02:36] <blinx> I have this problem: http://trac.edgewall.org/ticket/2418
[07:03:01] <blinx> ^knows anyone something more about this bug? is it fixed?
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[07:16:09] <otaku42> is there a way for a plugin to be called for requests that go to, for example, /wiki/* without causing the "original" handler to be blocked?
[07:17:55] <otaku42> the idea is that the plugin is able to add some messages to req.hdf (which then are processed in wiki.cs), but only in case of a request to the wiki
[07:19:14] <otaku42> would an appropriate match_request method be ok for that purpose?
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[07:28:33] <cmlenz> otaku42: there's the IRequestFilter that you should be able to use for that
[07:29:35] <otaku42> cmlenz: ok, will try that. do you have a good example in mind that i could look at for learning how it works?
[07:29:51] <cmlenz> not really
[07:30:14] <cmlenz> I'm sure coderanger is using the API in a dozen or so of his hundred plugins ;-)
[07:30:53] <otaku42> cmlenz: ok, i'll see if that gets me somewhere :) thx
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[07:40:55] <exarkun> Where is the genshi repo?
[07:42:02] <exarkun> Oh wait
[07:42:05] <exarkun> Here is a better question
[07:42:07] <otaku42> exarkun: http://genshi.edgewall.org/#Development
[07:42:11] <exarkun> TracError: Unsupported version control system "svn"
[07:42:14] <exarkun> Why do I get that?
[07:43:06] <otaku42> exarkun: probably the same as: http://trac.edgewall.org/ticket/3431
[07:43:37] <exarkun> I have Python svn bindings installed
[07:43:45] <exarkun> This is not a new installation
[07:43:54] <exarkun> I stopped the server, updated to current trunk@HEAD, started the server
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[07:45:05] <exarkun> Is there some configuration that needs to be updated or something?
[07:45:14] <exarkun> How are "connectors" discovered/defined?
[07:45:59] <exarkun> Maybe svn support moved into a separate project too?
[07:46:04] <exarkun> Something else I should check out?
[07:49:25] <exarkun> <trac.versioncontrol.svn_fs.SubversionConnector object at 0xb6bbcfec>
[07:49:29] <exarkun> I have svn support
[07:49:32] <exarkun> Why isn't it being used?
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[08:13:13] <mnencia> i've a problem to open a ticket on trac-hack.org, i've a traceback
[08:14:22] <mnencia> http://pastie.caboo.se/19684
[08:17:02] <groton> i still have to understand how to make the Browse Source of my Trac installation
[08:17:07] <groton> any help?>
[08:22:48] <absorb> Right now a ticket will be logged under the username you logged in with, I'm making use of LDAP logins, is there a attribute (if it exists in LDAP) that will overrule the default username?
[08:23:13] <absorb> i.e. I log in as 'username', but I want it to display 'username@domain.com' (which comes from mail: in ldap)
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[08:25:29] <absorb> It's a bit like Bugzilla works actually.. when you log in with your ldap username, you can assign it a different DisplayName (by default your mail: attribute)
[08:26:37] <cmlenz> no, that's currently not supported out of the box
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[08:27:20] <cmlenz> although I'm not sure whether there are related options in the mod_auth_ldap connector (or whatever you're using)
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[08:30:45] <absorb> I'm using auth_ldap; yes
[08:31:25] <absorb> Actually, what would be really nice would be to map all the user-info.
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[09:03:14] <dorileo> hi all! could someone point me a link(perhaps) where are listed all "thechnologies" used in trac? like... python, ClearSilver and so on
[09:03:25] <dorileo> in fact, is that http://trac.edgewall.org/wiki/TracInstall all?
[09:03:32] <coderanger> You mean libraries?
[09:03:54] <dorileo> coderanger: yeah.... libraries, frameworks and so on :D
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[09:04:44] <coderanger> ClearSilver, and one of pysqlite, pyscopg, pypgsql, or mysqldb
[09:04:44] <loufoque> Is there a sourceforge.net-like website where I can host my project and have trac?
[09:04:58] <coderanger> setuptools and subversion bindings are optional
[09:05:03] <coderanger> loufoque: What kind of project
[09:05:15] <loufoque> an open source game.
[09:05:28] <coderanger> Is it written in python?
[09:06:59] <loufoque> no
[09:07:31] <cmlenz> loufoque: you could try http://devjavu.com/
[09:07:59] <dorileo> is there a wiki page(perhaps:D) where explain how to write a trac plugin? this pages http://trac.edgewall.org/wiki/TracPlugins covers hust the instalation
[09:08:00] <cmlenz> requires an invite, though
[09:08:29] <dorileo> and is there any trac`s API/design documentation?
[09:09:51] <dorileo> s/hust/just
[09:10:33] <coderanger> dorileo: Also there is a slightly out of date tutorial on trac-hacks
[09:11:35] <loufoque> cmlenz: seems rather simplistic. I suppose it doesn't do nightly builds and the like?
[09:12:40] <dorileo> coderanger: where?
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[09:17:14] <dorileo> coderanger: hum... I got it
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[09:22:47] <matt_good> loufoque: I don't think so, if you want nightly builds you'll probably have to host it yourself
[09:23:25] <loufoque> matt_good: don't sourceforge.net or berlios.de do it?
[09:23:48] <matt_good> loufoque: I don't use either, but I was not aware of any build service offered by them
[09:24:20] <matt_good> I've never seen build results for a project on there
[09:24:21] <loufoque> matt_good: since you have SSH access you can probably register tasks with crontab
[09:24:44] <matt_good> possibly
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[09:46:50] <prologic> hey guys
[09:46:58] <prologic> is there a macro I can use to include the contents of another wiki page ?
[09:46:59] <coderanger_> g'morning
[09:47:03] <prologic> morning :)
[09:47:09] <coderanger_> WikiInclude on the MacroBazaar
[09:47:18] <prologic> nothing on trac-hacks ?
[09:47:19] <coderanger_> Or s0undt3ch's templates coolness
[09:48:07] <prologic> also while I've got your attention, can you help me debug this problem I've got with trac 0.10
[09:48:09] <prologic> http://prologic.shortcircuit.net.au/wiki/Paste/2006/10/25/01.21
[09:48:15] <coderanger_> A lot of the old macros still havent been moved from *Bazaar to trac-hacks
[09:48:24] <prologic> *nods*
[09:48:36] <prologic> I'll install the WikiInclude macro then (hope it works with 0.10)
[09:49:43] <coderanger_> That link isn't lodaing here
[09:50:02] <prologic> hrmm how come ?
[09:50:26] <coderanger_> Dunno, just timing out
[09:50:31] <prologic> yeah ?
[09:50:53] <coderanger_> Wait, maybe its going now
[09:51:00] <prologic> hrmm
[09:51:08] <prologic> hope that's not a problem on my end :)
[09:51:12] <prologic> just checked bot upstream links
[09:51:25] <prologic> could be high traffic coming through here (never know) :)
[09:51:29] <prologic> I don't monitor it anymore
[09:52:07] <coderanger_> I'm also on a horrible wireless link here
[09:53:12] <prologic> ahh
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[09:54:03] <coderanger_> Gotta love it, I can't open it on here, but I can VNC home and open it there
[09:54:33] <prologic> hrmm
[09:54:37] <prologic> not good ;/
[09:55:13] <coderanger_> Hrmm
[09:55:32] <coderanger_> If you dump the enum table, does it work?
[09:56:47] <prologic> umm you mean what exactly ?
[09:56:59] <prologic> are you suggesting there might be a duplicate for that value in the enum table ?
[09:57:12] <prologic> because the milestone definately doesn't exist yet (someone suggested it might)
[09:57:15] <coderanger_> Or the table somehow got corrupted
[09:57:50] <prologic> the table appears to be fine
[09:57:52] <prologic> I can select from it
[09:58:10] <coderanger_> can you insert your new one?
[09:58:12] <prologic> there is nothing in there that indicates anything bizare (milestone names don't appear to be put there)
[09:58:20] <prologic> example insert statement ?
[09:58:56] <coderanger_> insert into milestone values ('Elmo', 0, 0, '');
[10:00:00] <prologic> ahh sorry thought you were still ttalking about the enum table which didn't make sense :
[10:00:01] <prologic> sqlite> insert into milestone values ('Elmo', 0, 0, '');
[10:00:01] <prologic> SQL error: table milestone has 5 columns but 4 values were supplied
[10:00:01] <prologic> sqlite> insert into milestone values ('Elmo', 0, 0, 0, '');
[10:00:01] <prologic> SQL error: column name is not unique
[10:00:23] <coderanger_> .schema milestone
[10:00:26] <prologic> hmm oh wait that's not the milestone I'm trying to create
[10:00:28] <prologic> Simba is
[10:00:39] <prologic> Casper
[10:00:39] <prologic> CMM Level
[10:00:39] <prologic> Elmo
[10:00:45] <prologic> those are the current milestones
[10:00:52] <prologic> I was trying to insert a 4th called Simba
[10:01:24] <coderanger_> what does it think the 5 cols are?
[10:01:50] <prologic> hang on lemme just try to re-create this erroneous milestone that wasn't being created
[10:02:02] <prologic> make sure I'm not going crazy :)
[10:02:08] <coderanger_> going? ;-)
[10:02:36] <prologic> omg
[10:02:38] <prologic> it created
[10:02:47] <prologic> was I just insane the other night ? :)
[10:03:01] <prologic> I swear I could not create this new milestone "Simba"
[10:03:05] <prologic> yet it now just worked
[10:03:59] <coderanger_> heh
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[10:04:59] <prologic> I apolagise :)
[10:05:07] <prologic> if I ever see it happen again I'll tripple check :)
[10:07:22] <prologic> s0undt3ch, u there ? does your TracWikiTemplate plugin allow me to include the content of another page directly ? or does it do something entirely different ? (I've been confused by examples)
[10:15:57] <prologic> hmm think after a reading more pages on his trac site for it that question is answered :)
[10:29:43] <coderanger_> Hmm, I should try the db pool patch cboos posted and see if that fixes the problems I thought were trac-forge
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[10:39:52] <prologic> ahh yeah been meaning to ask you how that works
[10:39:59] <prologic> I have installed it and enabled it only for a single test trac
[10:40:10] <prologic> I've worked some things out by peeking at the code
[10:40:15] <prologic> but I don't understand much of it atm
[10:40:21] <coderanger_> It doesn't do much for a single Trac yet
[10:40:35] <coderanger_> (need to finish up the admin stuff this weekend)
[10:40:44] <prologic> no I mean how it works with multi-project support
[10:40:53] <prologic> obviously I may not have set it all up properly yet
[10:44:42] <coderanger_> I posted a "guide" on the plugin page on t-h
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[10:46:18] <prologic> ahh k thanks :)
[10:46:27] <prologic> wasn't one there before I thought ?
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[10:53:34] <coderanger_> prologic: Not written by me though
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[10:53:42] <prologic> ahh k cool
[10:53:48] <prologic> ok well I'll follow/improve it :)
[10:58:57] <coderanger_> The admin console is starting to look very shiny
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[11:01:33] <prologic> yeah I saw that
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[11:12:09] <s0undt3ch> prologic: yes
[11:12:22] <s0undt3ch> Include(Page)
[11:12:31] <s0undt3ch> Include(http://....Page)
[11:12:52] <s0undt3ch> ie [[Include(...)]]
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[11:24:55] <CosmicRay> I am confused about where the current darcs plugin for trac is.
[11:25:00] <CosmicRay> there seem to be three different ones
[11:25:30] <CosmicRay> There's one at http://darcs.arstecnica.it/ that says it needs a slightly patched trac 0.10
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[11:26:12] <CosmicRay> but this page mentions one that is new but doesn't need trac patching
[11:26:14] <CosmicRay> http://trac.edgewall.org/wiki/TracDarcs
[11:26:20] <CosmicRay> what is the preferred one?
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[11:35:46] <smccoy> So
[11:35:52] <smccoy> why wouldn't I have a handler for /login ?
[11:36:06] <smccoy> "No handler matched request to /login"
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[11:36:32] <coderanger_> tag: What plugins do you have installed
[11:37:02] <tag> hurm, the pdf plugin, the admin plugin, some others.
[11:37:11] <tag> I don't know tbh 'cause i can't log in to my site
[11:37:40] <tag> Ah here we go
[11:38:00] <tag> TracAccountManager, TracPageToPDF, TracTags, TracTocMacro (but it's broke), TracWebAdmin, tBLog
[11:38:05] <tag> tracchangelog
[11:38:10] <tag> ....look's like that's it.
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[11:55:06] <jrydberg> anyone here created a cool "theme" or custom look for trac?
[11:55:10] <jrydberg> i just suck att CSS and shit
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[12:04:22] <s0undt3ch> jrydberg: http://trac-hacks.org/wiki/GamedevTheme aparently the only public one
[12:05:41] <jrydberg> s0undt3ch: ah, thanks.
[12:05:53] <jrydberg> i'm amazed there isn't a ton of themes available
[12:06:55] <s0undt3ch> jrydberg: ppl are just so digged into their coding that they don't have time to css
[12:06:58] <s0undt3ch> :)
[12:07:41] <jrydberg> hehe
[12:11:00] <coderanger_> tag: Are you trying to use the form-based logins from accountmanager?
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[12:13:46] <coderanger_> s0undt3ch: Thats not much of a "theme" too
[12:13:58] <coderanger_> s0undt3ch: I should go on a begging spree again
[12:13:58] <IamLordV1ldemort> Is there any real theme effort, or interest?
[12:14:23] <coderanger_> IamLordV1ldemort: Most people with major project sites make it look like the rest of their site
[12:14:26] <s0undt3ch> coderanger_: I just pointed to what exists
[12:14:27] <jrydberg> IamLordV1ldemort: Well, I find it quite boring that every Trac I find looks the same
[12:14:38] <coderanger_> IamLordV1ldemort: People have made some pretty cool ones
[12:16:28] <IamLordV1ldemort> nod
[12:16:28] <coderanger_> s0undt3ch: That link is the cause of about 46% of our traffic too
[12:16:52] <IamLordV1ldemort> jrydberg: I was more asking about is there an _effort_ or interest in creating a common base for theming, etc.
[12:17:10] <IamLordV1ldemort> jrydberg: anyone who uses Trac a lot finds it boring after a while.
[12:17:19] <IamLordV1ldemort> jrydberg: esp. when they are all the same.
[12:17:25] <coderanger_> IamLordV1ldemort: What do you mean by "common base"?
[12:18:55] <s0undt3ch> coderanger_: no shit!? not the plugs it self?
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[12:21:00] <coderanger_> s0undt3ch: I mean to the gamedev club website, not trac-hacks
[12:21:23] <coderanger_> (I run that server)
[12:24:13] <IamLordV1ldemort> coderanger_: Organized effort, loose knit group, two guys on a street corner talking about helping other people theme.
[12:25:09] <IamLordV1ldemort> Theming your own stuff is cool, but making other themes, and making the stuff themeable is a different story.
[12:26:41] <coderanger_> IamLordV1ldemort: Well its all themeable in that its all just CSS
[12:26:53] <coderanger_> I don't know of a "trac theming club" though
[12:27:14] <coderanger_> It's usually the web designer for the project in question, since most big ones have a few
[12:27:42] <coderanger_> I know asmodai did the python trac theme, which had some elements from cmlenz's personal theme
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[12:37:07] <IamLordV1ldemort> nod
[12:37:09] <IamLordV1ldemort> Thanks
[12:37:26] <IamLordV1ldemort> I am the wrong guy to try to make that happen, but I was curious.
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[12:47:14] <rezzen> looking for tips on how to enable columns in a wiki page. (I'd like a long list of WikiWords to be presented as two columns.) It can be done this way: http://pastebin.ca/223142 -- but that's not very manageable. Do you know of a better way?
[12:50:11] <matt_good> rezzen: http://trac.edgewall.org/wiki/WikiFormatting#Tables
[12:51:28] <rezzen> matt_good: thanks. that's not quite what i want, unless i can disable borders. can that be done w/out a customized processor?
[12:52:12] <matt_good> rezzen: well, you could edit the CSS
[12:52:55] <matt_good> though it would affect all Wiki tables, which may not be what you want either
[12:53:05] <rezzen> matt_good: that might work (i imagine i'll be overriding all tables, but i can prolly live with that.
[12:53:10] <rezzen> snap
[12:54:15] <matt_good> rezzen: so, in your project there should be htdocs/site_css.cs
[12:54:31] <matt_good> where you can add a rule for "table.wiki { ...
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[13:00:41] <gans20|malchik> hello
[13:01:07] <gans20|malchik> how to clear trac's timeline? is it possible?
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[13:04:56] <s0undt3ch> coderanger_: ah, the other way arround, nice :)
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[13:12:21] <coderanger1> gans20|malchik: What do you mean?
[13:13:15] <gans20|malchik> I mean, I want to remove all timeline entries since they're become dirty after I tested my trac environment
[13:13:46] <coderanger1> Remove what is generating them
[13:14:03] <gans20|malchik> they're already generated
[13:14:07] <coderanger1> The timeline is just another view to other data, it doens't have any data itself
[13:14:18] <gans20|malchik> hm..
[13:15:10] <coderanger1> So if you want to remove a wiki page from the timeline, remove it from the wiki
[13:15:58] <gans20|malchik> I got it, thank you
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