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October 29, 2006

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[00:36:33] <coderanger> Anyone really bored and want to test something?
[00:40:29] <pacopablo> test what?
[00:40:57] <coderanger> http://www.coderanger.net/tracdev/admin/tracforge/prototypes/new
[00:41:09] <pacopablo> shouldn't [ -n ${VAR} ] fail if VAR isn't defined?
[00:41:15] <asmodai> Nice to see how Wordpress uses Trac for development too
[00:41:21] <coderanger> Just wanna make sure the JS works elsewhere than my mac
[00:41:39] <asmodai> coderanger: I got an XP with IE 7 and FF 2 here
[00:41:44] <pacopablo> well, don't have a login
[00:41:49] <coderanger> guest/guest
[00:41:52] <asmodai> coderanger: What should I see/notice?
[00:42:04] <coderanger> the three buttons in the foo/bar/baz divx
[00:42:07] <coderanger> er, divs
[00:42:31] <coderanger> pacopablo: -n "${VAR}"
[00:42:37] <pacopablo> works here
[00:42:56] <asmodai> ok, FF 2 on XP shows me three yellow, almost post it notes-like, rectangles with three buttons each, up/down/close
[00:43:09] <pacopablo> that's FF1.5 on linux
[00:43:19] <asmodai> The border around them seems greyish
[00:43:29] <coderanger> asmodai: Yeah, try clicking the buttons
[00:43:34] <pacopablo> coderanger: thanks for the tip
[00:43:35] <coderanger> pacopablo: Thanky
[00:43:40] <asmodai> on IE 7 I see the same layout except the border is fatter black
[00:43:47] * pacopablo curses shell quoting
[00:44:21] <asmodai> coderanger: on FF 2 all three's arrows work, except when they're already top or bottom and they animate when moving
[00:44:30] <coderanger> asmodai: Awesome, thanky
[00:44:34] <asmodai> coderanger: the closing fades the note out and moves it up
[00:44:36] <asmodai> let me check IE
[00:44:48] <asmodai> ok, IE 7 has a small glitche
[00:44:50] <asmodai> glitch
[00:45:06] <asmodai> when you move up and down the notes are off-by-one to the right when moving
[00:45:18] <coderanger> oy
[00:45:35] <asmodai> closing has no such off by one movement glitch though
[00:45:45] <coderanger> horizontally or vertically?
[00:46:05] <asmodai> horizontally it moves about 1 px to the right when interchanging the notes
[00:46:21] <coderanger> Time to fire up the laptop I suppose
[00:46:30] <pacopablo> grr, why is the schema not working on trac-hacks.org?
[00:46:39] <pacopablo> it works fine on my boxen
[00:46:53] <asmodai> You added a 4th box now?
[00:47:18] <pacopablo> night all
[00:47:21] <coderanger> asmodai: Yeah, playing with running multiple moves at once
[00:47:24] <coderanger> pacopablo: gnite
[00:47:48] <asmodai> coderanger: It seems, with my just opened eyes, that the animation of the interchanging of the order of the notes
[00:47:57] <asmodai> coderanger: is the one that's off by one to the right
[00:48:11] <asmodai> coderanger: it then assume base positions and 'clicks' back in the right place
[00:48:32] <coderanger> Yeah, IE and FF handle positioning a bit differently
[00:48:48] <asmodai> Want me to fire up IE 5.5? :P
[00:49:06] <coderanger> the move is done with abs positioned divs that are moved to be in the place of the normal ones
[00:49:21] <coderanger> heh, I think thats probably overkill ;-)
[00:49:43] <asmodai> well, I have 4 notes and buttons
[00:49:51] <asmodai> HOLY SHIT
[00:49:56] <asmodai> that move animation is SLOOOOW
[00:49:57] <asmodai> :)
[00:50:14] <asmodai> Seems like this animation now has an off-by-eight or so
[00:50:18] <asmodai> also to the right
[00:50:29] <asmodai> but, it works :)
[00:50:45] <asmodai> funnily enough closing one slides the others up fast and without issues
[00:51:27] <coderanger> I set it to take 5 seconds instead of .4
[00:51:49] * asmodai checks 5.01 :)
[00:52:06] <coderanger> If you do something like Foo down and then Baz up, it looks funny
[00:52:26] <asmodai> ok, the buttons for up/down won't work on 5.01
[00:52:32] <asmodai> closing is also a no-no
[00:52:34] <asmodai> on IE 5.01
[00:52:51] <asmodai> then again, our navigation bars for Trac have issues on 5.01 already
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[00:53:02] <coderanger> Hah, I have a feeling thats probably not fixable
[00:53:11] <coderanger> IE5 has horrible JS issues
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[00:53:49] <asmodai> Opera 9 works as well
[00:54:10] <asmodai> Seems IE 5.5 doesn't do the fade on close bit as well
[00:54:15] <asmodai> Opera 9 does
[00:54:21] <asmodai> no off by anythings
[00:54:33] <coderanger> :)
[00:54:41] <coderanger> So IE is braindead
[00:55:04] <asmodai> *cough*seems like it*cough*
[00:56:52] <coderanger> thanks for the testing :)
[00:58:11] <asmodai> no problem
[00:58:21] <asmodai> Hope to get my ass back on the ticketdelete genshi this week
[00:58:27] <asmodai> now that I am done with the floor for now
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[01:37:20] <alect> paco: the pg upgrade did not work
[01:37:23] <alect> left an empty wiki
[01:37:27] <alect> i rolled it back to sqlite
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[01:53:15] <gordonjcp> hi
[01:53:42] <coderanger> hello
[01:54:49] <gordonjcp> I've had trac working before, but after blowing away and re-initialising I am having some permissions problems
[01:55:07] <gordonjcp> I'm running trac from apache using mod_python
[01:55:30] <gordonjcp> TracError: The user gordonjcp requires read _and_ write permission to the database file /home/gordonjcp/nekosynth_trac/db/trac.db and the directory it is located in
[01:55:58] <gordonjcp> assuming I *do* have the correct permissions set, what else could cause this?
[01:56:07] <coderanger> selinux
[01:56:15] <gordonjcp> no, NetBSD
[01:56:18] <coderanger> trying to use sqlite over NFS
[01:56:23] <gordonjcp> nope
[01:56:30] <coderanger> chroot
[01:56:32] <gordonjcp> it actually *was* working before
[01:56:49] <coderanger> UID mismatch problems?
[01:56:51] <gordonjcp> having played with trac for a bit, I deleted the trac directory and re-initialised it
[01:56:56] <gordonjcp> shouldn't be
[01:57:14] <gordonjcp> literally the only thing that has changed is I clobbered the old directory and re-created it
[01:57:34] <coderanger> Does that user have write access to the whole directory?
[01:57:40] <gordonjcp> yes
[01:57:55] <gordonjcp> it's in my home directory, and was created by me
[01:58:33] <coderanger> Is Apache really running as you?
[01:58:49] <gordonjcp> ahaa
[01:58:53] <gordonjcp> good point
[01:59:13] <gordonjcp> so where it reports the username in the error message, it may be mistaken?
[01:59:27] <coderanger> its possible, though unlikely
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[02:01:36] <gordonjcp> right, chmod -r www lets it work
[02:01:43] <gordonjcp> not really a solution, but I'm on the right track
[02:01:58] <coderanger> weird
[02:02:07] <gordonjcp> hrm, I must have done some permissions changes to get it working the first time, although I'm sure I didn't...
[02:02:28] <gordonjcp> bah, I *hate* Unix permissions
[02:03:25] <coderanger> You aren't using AFS or Coda, right?
[02:03:37] <gordonjcp> nope, just plain ordinary ffs
[02:04:22] <gordonjcp> tbh I'm not sure *what* is going on, it is definitely reporting that I need permissions to read and write the db
[02:04:31] <gordonjcp> but I'm not actually running it...
[02:06:50] <gordonjcp> right, solved it
[02:07:25] <gordonjcp> for future reference, I added apache to the "users" group - I should probably make another group for this possibly called "tracusers"
[02:08:00] <gordonjcp> and then set ~/<trac_directory>/db/ and trac.db g+w
[02:12:36] <mitsuhiko> wtf?
[02:12:39] <mitsuhiko> >>> default_dir('htdocs')
[02:12:39] <mitsuhiko> 'C:\\Programme\\Python\\2.3\\share\\trac\\htdocs'
[02:12:44] <mitsuhiko> on a linux system...
[02:12:49] <gordonjcp> hm?
[02:12:59] <mitsuhiko> something b0rked here
[02:14:21] <Marlun> Anyone who has Trac running with Subversion 1.4? I tried before but got problems with the subversion python bindings, now however I would really like to get it to work.
[02:14:56] <gordonjcp> 1.3 here
[02:15:00] <Marlun> I'm using Ubuntu and they don't have subversion 1.4 in repositories so I have to install it from source.
[02:15:14] <coderanger> mitsuhiko: Did you copy the install from a windows box?
[02:15:21] <mitsuhiko> HAHAHA. megarofl:
[02:15:24] <mitsuhiko> # PLEASE DO NOT EDIT THIS FILE!
[02:15:24] <mitsuhiko> # This file was autogenerated when installing Trac 0.10.
[02:15:24] <mitsuhiko> #
[02:15:35] <mitsuhiko> guess the installed is b0rked :D
[02:15:42] <mitsuhiko> coderanger: heh. i don't even own a linux box :D
[02:16:00] <coderanger> ?
[02:16:19] <coderanger> Marlun: It works on here
[02:16:23] <coderanger> Marlun: Using Gentoo
[02:16:54] <mitsuhiko> coderanger: why do de_DE windows paths appear in a linux trac installation?
[02:17:30] <coderanger> mitsuhiko: That file is output during the install process, its not "part of Trac"
[02:17:57] <coderanger> If the install is done on a windows machine and then copied over, you would see that
[02:18:09] <mitsuhiko> coderanger: but i have installed it using easy_install
[02:18:28] <mitsuhiko> i guess a german release manager created that egg on a linux box
[02:18:41] <coderanger> Trac doesn't distribute eggs
[02:20:52] <mitsuhiko> coderanger: i don't mind how that happened, fixed it already by hand
[02:21:05] <mitsuhiko> but something is broken when you use easy_install for trac
[02:24:12] <coderanger> PyPI seems to be grumpy, but I'll check into it in a bit
[02:33:38] <Marlun> coderanger: I'm pretty new to linux but now how to work with with Debian/Ubuntu, I wonder if it is worth trying Gentoo out just to get it to work with Svn 1.4.
[02:34:13] <Marlun> Or have you installed it from source too?
[02:34:20] <coderanger> I swear by it, but more importantly you can just look at the ebuild to see how Gentoo compiles it
[02:34:51] <Marlun> ebuild is like a .deb file?
[02:34:58] <coderanger> http://gentoo-portage.com/AJAX/Ebuild/33489/View
[02:35:16] <coderanger> Sorta, its a bash script that contains the instructions on what to do
[02:35:43] <Marlun> Ok I'll look at it and see if I can understand it :) thanks!
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[02:41:22] <Chalk> hi
[02:41:59] <Chalk> can anyone help me ? I get a "Authentication information not available." when trying to login with the standalone server
[02:42:43] <coderanger> Chalk: You need to give the --auth option
[02:42:50] <coderanger> @wiki TracStandalone
[02:42:50] <evil_twin> coderanger: http://trac.edgewall.org/wiki/TracStandalone
[02:43:01] <coderanger> Look at the section on authentication
[02:43:40] <Chalk> i followed the guilde on http://trac.edgewall.org/wiki/TracStandalone, i launched the server with --basic-auth and it doesn't work
[02:43:46] <Chalk> (sorry for my bad english :/)
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[02:44:23] <coderanger> Try it with digest auth
[02:44:27] <coderanger> Hey Jonas
[02:45:34] <jborg> howdy
[02:47:41] <jborg> cool, take a look at this: http://www.linuxuser.co.uk/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=214
[02:47:43] <jborg> sweet
[02:48:24] <coderanger> Awesome
[02:48:32] <coderanger> When do you get the check? ;-)
[02:49:21] <gordonjcp> ok, next silly question
[02:49:58] <gordonjcp> I've removed "Timeline" and "Roadmap" from mainnav in trac.ini, but it doesn't seem to be picking up that change
[02:50:01] <coderanger> Glad to see they spelled "Edgewall" correctly this time
[02:50:13] <coderanger> gordonjcp: That just controls ordering
[02:50:17] <jborg> coderanger, I haven't heard anything about what the winners get, probably just unlimited bragging rights :)
[02:50:18] <gordonjcp> ah
[02:50:34] <gordonjcp> coderanger: any way to stop it displaying the options for timeline and roadmap?
[02:50:36] <coderanger> gordonjcp: You would need to disable the modules in question
[02:50:46] <gordonjcp> also in trac.ini?
[02:53:01] <coderanger> Yes
[02:53:09] <coderanger> in the [components] section
[02:53:34] <coderanger> Out of curiosity, why do you want to disable the timeline?
[02:54:54] <gordonjcp> clutter
[02:55:17] <gordonjcp> I don't want to actually disable it, I just don't want its link to be right at the top of the page
[02:55:30] <coderanger> Ahh, there isn't a good way to do that
[02:55:39] <coderanger> Might be a plugin for it on trac-hacks
[02:55:44] <coderanger> if not you coudl write it
[02:55:45] <gordonjcp> it's actually the roadmap I preally want rid of
[02:56:01] <gordonjcp> s/pre/re/
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[03:40:03] <haakonn> my trac/mod_python + custom-built svn1.4 sometimes gives an "Internal Server Error" when accessing the trac webroot (/ in my case). the errorlogs are at http://rafb.net/paste/results/R89j9f94.html . can anyone please have a look and tell me what's wrong?
[03:40:51] <coderanger> @ticket 2611
[03:40:51] <evil_twin> coderanger: http://trac.edgewall.org/ticket/2611
[03:42:37] <coderanger> Put all your Tracs in a single PythonInterpreter and it will go away
[03:42:57] <coderanger> Or yell at the subversion devs until they fix it
[03:43:21] <haakonn> hmm. i only have one python interpreter (debian sarge's standard python 2.3)
[03:43:38] <haakonn> will study this ticket though
[03:43:47] <coderanger> Its not related to that
[03:44:52] <coderanger> mod_python by default creates an in-memory interpreter for each vhost
[03:45:05] <haakonn> oh
[03:45:28] <coderanger> Just throw "PythonInterpreter trac" in each trac config
[03:45:46] <coderanger> That will override the default behavior
[03:45:57] <haakonn> i only have one trac though, but i expose it on several domain names
[03:46:18] <coderanger> Is it a single vhost?
[03:46:40] <haakonn> well no, i have several apache2 vhosts
[03:46:53] <coderanger> Weird
[03:47:14] <coderanger> Sounds like the "yell at subversion devs" may be your best bet then ;-)
[03:47:27] <haakonn> hmf :)
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[03:47:54] <coderanger> Some people have reported luck with various subversion and SWIG combos
[03:48:02] <coderanger> nothing consistent though
[03:48:09] <haakonn> sounds fragile
[03:48:53] <coderanger> The interpreter trick fixed it on here
[03:50:24] <haakonn> well, i put in 'PythonInterpreter "trac"', we'll see
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[03:58:30] <haakonn> by the way, is it safe to back up a trac directory, or should i dump it with svnadmin, then back up?
[03:59:31] <jborg> haakonn, take a look at "trac-admin <env> hotcopy"
[04:00:07] <haakonn> ok, so a dump is needed
[04:00:21] <haakonn> ehm, s/svnadmin/trac-admin/ up there
[04:00:46] <jborg> Are you talking about the trac env directory or the subversion repository?
[04:00:56] <haakonn> the trac env
[04:01:48] <jborg> hotcopy works like ordinary "cp" except that it makes sure the sqlitedb is copied in a safe way
[04:02:06] <haakonn> i see
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[05:21:53] <Marlun> Is the Trac trunk good enough to use in a non production enviorment?
[05:22:24] <mnemoc> afaik, yes
[05:22:49] <coderanger> Marlun: Should be
[05:32:45] * exarkun tries to figure out what minimum level of quality is implied by "non production environment".
[05:33:17] <coderanger> exarkun: "Might eat your data, don't blame us if it does"
[05:33:22] <exarkun> I guess you wouldn't want software that killed you, even for non-production stuff. Or stole your wallet.
[05:33:53] <exarkun> coderanger: Who cares about that, though? It wasn't important data.
[05:34:18] <coderanger> exarkun: Exactly
[05:34:43] <misc> coderanger: while production level is ""Might eat your data, don't blame us if it does, but it should not happens" ?
[05:35:31] <coderanger> misc: Sounds about right
[05:36:22] <coderanger> misc: On "production quality" at least you'll get an apology ;-)
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[06:03:08] <Marlun> hmmm after installing subversion 1.4 and swig-py, I get "ImportError: /usr/local/lib/libsvn_ra_dav-1.so.0: undefined symbol: xmlFreeParserCtxt" when trying to run: "python svnlook.py /my/subversion/repo". Any ideas? =)
[06:11:13] <exarkun> Marlun: Recompile with some more -l flags.
[06:11:55] <exarkun> Marlun: I had a similar problem the last time I built svn, although the missing symbol I had was from libgssapi, not libxml (?).
[06:12:39] <Marlun> -l flags? (I'm not experienced in this area =/)
[06:13:42] <Marlun> only swig-py or subversion too?
[06:13:56] <exarkun> Marlun: There's a file named Makefile (actually a bunch) in the source directory. It has a line in it somewhere something like "FOO=-lbar". You need to put " -lxml" on the end (probably).
[06:14:13] <exarkun> /usr/local/lib/libsvn_ra_dav-1.so.0 is just an svn library, so the problem is not related to swig.
[06:18:39] <Marlun> exarkun: I've looked in the Makefile inside the subversion-1.4.0 directory, thats the file you mean, right (It's a lot of text)? However I don't understand what you mean that I should add to the end of it?
[06:20:02] <exarkun> LIBS = -lz
[06:20:05] <exarkun> change it to
[06:20:10] <exarkun> LIBS = -lz -lxml
[06:20:54] <Marlun> and then reconfigure,compile and install subversion?
[06:21:04] <exarkun> just recompile
[06:21:20] <exarkun> and re-install
[06:21:31] <Marlun> should I run make clean before make?
[06:22:50] <exarkun> hmm
[06:22:51] <exarkun> probably
[06:23:35] <Marlun> ok, recompiling.
[06:24:59] <Marlun> exarkun: compile stoped: "/usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lxml"
[06:25:34] <exarkun> Maybe you just need to install libxml, then.
[06:25:52] <Marlun> I've only installed libxml2-dev prior to installing and configuring subversion, maybe I should install the package without -dev too..
[06:26:10] <Marlun> hmmm already seems to be installed.
[06:27:14] <Marlun> Already got libxml2 version: 2.6.26.dfsg.2u installed.
[06:27:39] <exarkun> Maybe it should be -lxml2
[06:32:23] <Marlun> seems to work, no error yet.
[06:32:46] <Marlun> HAve to go for a while, taking a walk outside, i'll be back with an update later :)
[06:32:52] <Marlun> exarkun: thanks for the help!
[06:43:50] <gordonjcp> right, yet another silly question
[06:44:06] <gordonjcp> I'm clearly not R-ing the right bit of TFM
[06:44:21] <gordonjcp> how can I serve up static files with trac?
[06:44:53] <gordonjcp> or to put it another way, how do I get at things in the ~/project/htdocs/ directory
[06:45:41] <gordonjcp> ahaa
[06:45:52] <gordonjcp> ok, change of question
[06:46:41] <gordonjcp> can I get a cleaner url for a bit of static content than "http://www.site.net/chrome/site/static.gz"
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[07:04:02] <gordonjcp> ok, forget that
[07:04:14] <gordonjcp> how do I serve static files *at all*?
[07:05:15] <exarkun> gordonjcp: Maybe you shouldn't try to serve static files with trac.
[07:05:47] <gordonjcp> exarkun: ok, so what do you suggest?
[07:06:05] <gordonjcp> where are you supposed to put things like source tarballs, example files etc?
[07:06:41] <exarkun> On one site which uses trac, I serve them with a different webserver, which sits in front of the trac web server.
[07:06:52] <exarkun> On another, I actually do serve them with trac, by attaching them to wiki pages.
[07:08:23] <gordonjcp> exarkun: trac is running behind apache
[07:09:00] <exarkun> apache is pretty good at serving static files
[07:09:32] <gordonjcp> yes, but trac doesn't seem to be great at passing the link to them unmolested
[07:10:42] <exarkun> That's a very confusing thing to say.
[07:10:50] <exarkun> I don't think I understand it.
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[07:11:23] <gordonjcp> gordonjcp: ok, I can *sort of* get it to work if I have a like to http://different.site/file
[07:11:26] <gordonjcp> sometimes
[07:11:44] <gordonjcp> except weirdly enough it doesn't like to work for ogg files
[07:11:50] <exarkun> You've basically completely lost me.
[07:11:53] <gordonjcp> yeah
[07:12:09] <gordonjcp> it's ok, I've pretty much decided that cool as trac is, it's just not what I'm looking for
[07:12:52] <gordonjcp> there's too much stuff I don't want or need, and it doesn't do the things I want
[07:13:05] * exarkun shrugs
[07:13:11] <exarkun> sure, whatever. you don't have to explain yourself to me :)
[07:13:53] <gordonjcp> when you say you're serving static files from apache behind trac, how exactly are you doing it?
[07:15:09] <exarkun> Well, I'm not using Apache, but I imagine the principle is the same. I have my main webserver accepting connections on port 80. It deals with some requests entirely by itself. Other requests, it reverse proxies to my trac server, which is listening on a different port on a private interface.
[07:17:46] <gordonjcp> ah right
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[07:23:23] <Marlun> exarkun: Back, when I installed I got alot of: "libtool: link: warning: `/usr/lib/gcc/i486-linux-gnu/4.1.2/../../..//libxml2.la' seems to be moved" havn't tested svnlook.py yet though, going to do that now.
[07:24:29] <exarkun> Marlun: Those are harmless, aiui.
[07:25:48] <Marlun> exarkun: Thank you very much :) svnlook.py worked now :)
[07:26:47] <Marlun> now I've only got Trac left :)
[07:26:58] <Marlun> Have to write this down so I remember it to the next time.
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[07:54:41] <haakonn> how could i include a directory of static resources not handled by trac in my trac/mod_python setup?
[07:59:35] <gordonjcp> that's pretty much what I was trying to do
[08:01:17] <haakonn> oh, i see now :)
[08:02:07] <haakonn> perhaps it just can't be done; i can put the statics another place i guess
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[08:23:10] <blinx> mhh.. in my trac there is missing something in the webadmin section, the general part: http://trac-hacks.org/attachment/wiki/AccountManagerPlugin/components-admin.png
[08:23:18] <blinx> how can I activate this?
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[08:24:12] <blinx> or is WebAdmin broken?
[08:26:06] <blinx> no one can help me?
[08:34:06] <blinx> [components]
[08:34:06] <blinx> webadmin.* = enabled
[08:34:06] <blinx> webadmin.basics.* = enabled
[08:34:07] <blinx> webadmin.logging.* = enabled
[08:34:07] <blinx> webadmin.perm.* = enabled
[08:34:09] <blinx> webadmin.ticket.* = enabled
[08:34:11] <blinx> webadmin.web_ui.* = enabled
[08:34:14] <blinx> that is in my trac.ini file
[08:34:27] <blinx> but it doesn't change anything
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[08:37:37] <sky> would someone tell me why this list isnt being formatted? http://trac.perian.org/
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[08:41:07] <mitsuhiko> sky: indent by one space
[08:41:09] <mitsuhiko> or two
[08:41:34] <sky> um it doesnt say that in the docs
[08:41:48] <mitsuhiko> sky: hm? really?
[08:41:58] <sky> plus I dont like that requirement
[08:43:00] <sky> but thanks :)
[08:43:36] <mitsuhiko> sky: i like it. looks better in text/plain view
[08:43:42] <mitsuhiko> and it's noted in the documentation :D
[08:44:57] <sky> the markup should be moving to the new standard, WikiCreole
[08:45:17] <sky> http://trac.perian.org/wiki/WikiFormatting says nothing about putting a space before a list marker
[08:45:52] <gordonjcp> there's a space in the example
[08:46:08] <sky> its totally not obvious
[08:46:10] <sky> or I wouldnt be here
[08:46:25] <gordonjcp> yeah
[08:46:31] <gordonjcp> it probably should be made clearer
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[08:56:25] <Marlun> Should I use Genshi trunk with Trac trunk?
[09:04:20] <exarkun> I used Genshi trunk with Trac trunk.
[09:04:27] <exarkun> Aside from being very slow it seems to work.
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[09:46:08] <Band|t> lol - the TRAC in apt is still 0.8.1?
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[09:50:15] <blinx> Band|t: it is possible I'm using the newest version after I installed it manually
[09:51:57] <blinx> Band|t: can you help me with my problem?
[09:52:42] <blinx> http://trac-hacks.org/attachment/wiki/AccountManagerPlugin/components-admin.png <- in my trac with webadmin is the part general on this pic missing, how can I activate this?
[09:53:38] <blinx> Band|t: no?
[09:55:40] <sky> and another note on the outline markup
[09:56:00] <sky> I added the space before the markup symbol, and look at how the changes are tracked: http://trac.perian.org/wiki/WikiStart?action=diff&version=7 -- cant even tell a difference
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