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<alect> |
lo cmlenz |
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<cmlenz> |
hi alect |
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<cmlenz> |
alect: "Thanks for the tip." LOL |
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<alect> |
heh |
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<alect> |
he obviously does not grok sarcasm all that well |
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<omry> |
is it possible to install trac without root access? |
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<omry> |
I am talking about the python part of the installation, not about apache. |
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<gans20|malchik> |
hello |
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<gans20|malchik> |
is it possible to restrict access to some set of wiki pages for some groups of users? |
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<gans20|malchik> |
or deny for all and grant access just to me, as an administrator? |
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<atwork> |
anyone using sugarcrm+trac? |
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<boorad> |
coderanger: how is TracForge coming? |
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<coderanger> |
boorad: Got the UI done for the prototypes system |
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<coderanger> |
need to hook that up, and then thats most of what I wanted out of it |
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<boorad> |
hmm, not too familiar with it, or what the prototypes system is, but saw some activity over the weekend |
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<coderanger> |
templates for a project |
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<coderanger> |
as in how to make them |
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<wladston> |
guys - finally managed to install trac |
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<wladston> |
but when I try to view the source, I get a " *Forbidden* Insufficient permissions to access /" |
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<wladston> |
anyone can help me ? |
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<wladston> |
the path to the repository on the trac.ini is correctly set |
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<coderanger> |
wladston: Did you setup an atihz_file |
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<coderanger> |
er, authz_fule |
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<coderanger> |
gah |
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<coderanger> |
authz_file |
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<wladston> |
authz_file ? |
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<wladston> |
coderanger: yes, it's set to /var/svn/repos/balzac/conf/passwd |
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<coderanger> |
thats wrong |
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<coderanger> |
authz == authorization |
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<coderanger> |
thats probably a password file |
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<wladston> |
ohn |
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<wladston> |
yeah |
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<wladston> |
there is another file there |
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<wladston> |
named auth |
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<wladston> |
authz |
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<wladston> |
coderanger: it's set correctly now |
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<wladston> |
but it is still not working |
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<coderanger> |
check the log |
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<coderanger> |
@logging |
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<evil_twin> |
coderanger: "logging" is http://trac.edgewall.org/wiki/TracLogging <-- Enable debug logging to file, ensure your environments log/ directory is writeable by your web server user, check for errors. |
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<wladston> |
coderanger: I have lots of this |
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<wladston> |
2006-10-30 11:19:14,732 Trac[__init__] DEBUG: Loading egg plugin acct_mgr.api from /usr/lib/python2.4/site-packages/TracAccountManager-0.1.2dev_r1291-py2.4.egg |
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<wladston> |
2006-10-30 11:19:14,735 Trac[__init__] DEBUG: Loading egg plugin iniadmin from /usr/lib/python2.4/site-packages/IniAdmin-0.1-py2.4.egg |
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<wladston> |
but no error .... |
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<wladston> |
coderanger: just to tell - trac and svn run as www-data - and the ownership of my repository is www-data |
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<coderanger> |
wladston: That error is related to internal perms, not Unix ones |
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<coderanger> |
It means the authz file isn't granting you read access to anything |
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<wladston> |
hum.... |
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<coderanger> |
is there anything actually in that authz file? |
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<wladston> |
is there any guides that teach me how to edit that authz ? |
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<wladston> |
nope |
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<wladston> |
all commented out |
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<coderanger> |
there ya go |
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<coderanger> |
check the Subversion book for how to setup authz, under path-based access control |
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<omry> |
hi, is it possible to somehow install trac without root privileges? |
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<wladston> |
coderanger: I wonder why there is no references to this on the tracinstall page ... |
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<coderanger> |
omry: Sure, just put everything in your home dir and use CGI or FCGI + .htaccess files |
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<coderanger> |
wladston: Because its optional |
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<coderanger> |
wladston: Its a feature of Subversion that Trac supports |
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<omry> |
coderanger, cool. you mean extract the tar.gz, not install it at all? |
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<coderanger> |
If you don't already have it setup, chances are you don't need it |
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<wladston> |
look what they say on the end of the tracinstall page : "Once you have your Trac site up and running, you should be able to browse your subversion repository, create tickets, view the timeline, etc." |
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<wladston> |
"you should be able to browse your subversion repository" => not this part :'( |
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<coderanger> |
wladston: Sure, just remove the authz_file line from your config |
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<coderanger> |
By default it should have been empty |
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<wladston> |
!!! |
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<wladston> |
coderanger: WORKED :D |
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<wladston> |
coderanger: Thanks VERY much man!! |
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<coderanger> |
omry: Sorta |
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<coderanger> |
omry: Search for "Trac Dreamhost" |
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<omry> |
coderanger, can you help me with some pointers? |
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<coderanger> |
you will find some guides |
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<omry> |
cool, thanks. |
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<coderanger> |
or "trac shared hosting" |
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<coderanger> |
its harder than a normal install, but doable |
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<mad_lord> |
hi |
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<mad_lord> |
guys, i have the error: 'Unsupported version control system "svn"', how can i solve this? |
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<mad_lord> |
python: "from svn import core" was wrong too |
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<omry> |
coderanger, goodluck with that one. |
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<xp_> |
hi all, I have dumb newbie questions, is ok to ask them here? |
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<misc> |
depend on the subject |
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<soloturn> |
just ask ... |
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<xp_> |
what is the easiest way to get trac up and running and ready for production use? |
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<xp_> |
I tried gforge and almost committed suicide |
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<soloturn> |
up and running? install debian package probably |
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<misc> |
install the package for your distribution |
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<xp_> |
ya I saw a debian package for it on debian sarge, what version of debian do you recommend? |
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<xp_> |
I am on centos currently |
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<xp_> |
is there a yum package? |
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<misc> |
i think |
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<soloturn> |
debian: testing if there is a cd. otherwise use stable and do a apt-get dist-upgrade testing. |
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<soloturn> |
for x-server config help use knoppix (cd bootable debian) - but normally you would not need that for a server. |
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<misc> |
i would not run testing on a server |
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<misc> |
this is asking for trouble |
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<xp_> |
I thought I saw a vmware image with it, anyone using that? |
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<soloturn> |
2 to 3 yrs ago that was true, but now it seems quite ok. |
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<misc> |
soloturn: well, it was not true yesterday, but maybe i am just unlucky |
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<soloturn> |
we use xen. |
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<soloturn> |
base system is stable, instance is testing. |
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<xp_> |
ok installing trac on my centos :) |
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<xp_> |
ok it installed |
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<kemik> |
trac doesnt support multiple trackers in one installation, right ? |
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<misc> |
yes |
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<xp_> |
I installed trac with yum install trac and it said it succeeded, how do I know it is running or do I have to start it somehow? |
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<kemik> |
hmm.. running multiple instances is a ugly workaround |
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<kemik> |
xp_: i'd imagine you'll have to set it up |
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<kemik> |
xp_: like "trac-admin /path/to/proj initenv" consult the wiki or someone more experienced than me |
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<misc> |
xp_: you have to start reading the doc on website :) |
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<xp_> |
misc how hard is trac to setup would you say? |
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<kemik> |
xp_: if your db works it's not hard at all |
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<gordonjcp> |
that's been my experience |
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<misc> |
xp_: quite easy really |
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<xp_> |
oh good |
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<gordonjcp> |
as long as you're not trying to get it to do stuff it's not meant to |
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<kemik> |
or say, if all the dependencies are installed correctly, its a breeze |
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<gordonjcp> |
xp_: the docs are pretty good |
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<xp_> |
anyone using the live vmware image for trac? |
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<gordonjcp> |
I installed it using mod_python on my NetBSD server in about maybe 10 minutes |
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<gordonjcp> |
'course I'm not entirely convinced it's the right choice for what I want, but it's quick and it works |
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<mrkris> |
hiya ;D |
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<coderanger> |
hello |
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<mrkris> |
i've been muckin around tryin to get trac working with multiple projects, and i'm seein that i need to setup a projects/ dir |
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<mrkris> |
am i supposed to just do multiple trac installs within that dir? |
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<mrkris> |
https://trac.videolan.org/pkg-multimedia/wiki/TracModPython |
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<mrkris> |
following that |
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<mrkris> |
i just have a bunch of projects i need to setup in trac, unsure how to set it up properly to trac them all without having to do a trac-foo.mydomain.com |
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<coderanger> |
Just put all the envs in a single folder |
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<coderanger> |
(usually /var/trac or similar) |
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<coderanger> |
and instead of giving PythonOption TracEnv /var/trac/myproj |
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<coderanger> |
give PythonOption TracEnvParentDir /var/trac |
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<mrkris> |
so, i'd do trac-admin /var/trac/project-name initenv and so on, then use the TracEnvParentDir /var/trac and it will list them all? |
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<coderanger> |
Yes |
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<nhuisman> |
hey I just installed trac from source and it doesn't seem like it put all the python lib stuff in my /usr/lib/python2.x/site-packages folder |
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<coderanger> |
Lets say you put this in a <Location /tracs> |
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<mrkris> |
ok, and for the apache2 config, what would i do for documentroot, set to /var/trac ? |
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<coderanger> |
the /tracs will be a listing |
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<nhuisman> |
do I just put it there manually? Or do I just set the PYTHONPATH somehow |
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<mrkris> |
ahh ok i'll go try it, thanks coderanger |
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<coderanger> |
mrkris: Trac doesn't care about the docroot, I usually set it to an empty folder |
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<coderanger> |
nhuisman: Where is it trying to install to? |
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<nhuisman> |
well I think it just put it in the folder I asked python to install it in |
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<mrkris> |
coderanger: i'm getting it setup for apache2, so apache needs to know the docroot |
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<nhuisman> |
ie /mypath/trac/lib/python2.x/site-packages |
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<coderanger> |
mrkris: Yes, but just set it to something empty |
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<nhuisman> |
i meant to say folder I asked trac to install into |
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<mrkris> |
k |
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<coderanger> |
nhuisman: Okay, so whats the problem? |
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<nhuisman> |
ok so when I used trac-admin I had to set the pythonpath env to make it work properly |
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<nhuisman> |
so I created a new project but now apache can't find the python scripts when i try and access the page |
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<nhuisman> |
Fri Oct 27 22:01:54 2006] [error] [client 128.171.168.211] PythonHandler trac.web.modpython_frontend: File "/usr/lib/python2.4/site-packages/mod_python/apache.py", line 287, in HandlerDispatch\n log=debug) |
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<coderanger> |
nhuisman: echo "/mypath/trac/lib/python2.x/site-packages" >/usr/lib/python2.x/site-packages/trac.pth |
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<coderanger> |
Or use the PythonPath option to mod_python |
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<mrkris> |
PythonHandler trac.ModPythonHandler: IOError: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: '/var/trac/VERSION |
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<nhuisman> |
which way is cleaner? |
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<coderanger> |
mrkris: Did you change the option to TracEnvParentDir? |
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<coderanger> |
nhuisman: I prefer the latter |
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<mrkris> |
yeah |
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<coderanger> |
nhuisman: But the former will fix it for trac-admin too |
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<nhuisman> |
hmm |
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<coderanger> |
mrkris: That seems like a really old version |
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<nhuisman> |
yeah I liked the second one too |
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<mrkris> |
ok i think i got it |
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<mrkris> |
brb |
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<mrkris> |
coderanger: got it, just the CSS is messed up, no CSS :D |
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<nhuisman> |
PythonPath "['/var/www/localhost/htdocs/trac/lib/python2.4/site-packages']" |
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<mrkris> |
reading from /trac/css/trac.css |
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<coderanger> |
Use PythonOption TracUriRoot |
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<nhuisman> |
so that is python list format right? |
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<nhuisman> |
notation rather |
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<coderanger> |
nhuisman: you want a sys.path + [...]" |
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<nhuisman> |
ah ok so it replaces it |
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<mrkris> |
coderanger: how would I set it though appropriately? |
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<mrkris> |
coderanger: currently it's set to / |
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<coderanger> |
mrkris: Pastebin your Apache config |
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<coderanger> |
lisppaste5: url |
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<lisppaste5> |
To use the lisppaste bot, visit http://paste.lisp.org/new/trac and enter your paste. |
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<mrkris> |
http://pastebin.ca/229578 |
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<mrkris> |
oh |
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<lisppaste5> |
mrkris pasted "TracUriRoot" at http://paste.lisp.org/display/28985 |
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<coderanger> |
That looks correct |
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<mrkris> |
it just doesn't display the css appropriately |
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<mrkris> |
the only thing in /var/trac is a bunch of project dirs now |
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<coderanger> |
It looks like you are running <=0.8 |
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<mrkris> |
i installed via apt |
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<coderanger> |
Sarge? |
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<mrkris> |
http://trac.edgewall.org/wiki/TracOnDebianSarge |
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<mrkris> |
yup |
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<nhuisman> |
must be old |
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<coderanger> |
Might want to upgrade |
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<coderanger> |
thats 1.5-2 years old |
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<nhuisman> |
yummy security holies |
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<coderanger> |
More that a lot of those bugs got fixed in 0.9 |
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<coderanger> |
When they refactored the whole thing massively |
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<mrkris> |
tryin to find a current trac repo for sarge |
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<mrkris> |
if i can't find one i'll install via source |
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<nhuisman> |
thanks for the help coderanger, it works now |
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<nhuisman> |
will plugin installation be different for me too? |
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<mrkris> |
coderanger: i just installed via src, but it now can't find: ImportError: No module named ModPythonHandler |
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<nhuisman> |
is it possible to create more then one ticket queue in trac? |
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<mrkris> |
ahh |
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<mrkris> |
the ModPythonHandler is deprecated in the old version, odd |
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<mrkris> |
coderanger: ok, upgrading worked. thanks :D |
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<nhuisman> |
i guess ticket "type" is sort of a queue |
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<nhuisman> |
is the trac hacks website down? |
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<matt_good> |
nhuisman: yes, it appears it is |
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<matt_good> |
oh, n/m it's back |
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<nhuisman> |
hmm |
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<nhuisman> |
I have my trac in a custom place, is installing plugins different for me? |
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<nhuisman> |
then just easy_install blah.egg |
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<nhuisman> |
or do you just put it in the plugin dir and it is done |
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<matt_good> |
yeah, you can use the plugin dir instead |
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<nhuisman> |
so I copied the egg file in |
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<nhuisman> |
trying to use tracnav |
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<nhuisman> |
and added the tracnav macro to a page and no luck |
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<nhuisman> |
pwd |
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<nhuisman> |
oops :P |
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<nhuisman> |
so it is in the plugins dir |
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<coderanger> |
matt_good: Do you know of a good trick for doing multiline strings in JS? |
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<nhuisman> |
http://perlmonks.org/?node_id=530323 |
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<coderanger> |
hmm, that gives me an idea |
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<coderanger> |
thanky :) |
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<nhuisman> |
laugh |
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<nhuisman> |
you have to restart apache for the plugin to work |
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<nhuisman> |
silly me |
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<Band|t> |
How do I get TRAC to log me in using my .htaccess username ? |
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<Band|t> |
I need my password to view TRAC ... that works fine, but then it doesnt actually log me into trac |
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<coderanger_> |
Band|t: How do you have authentication setup? |
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<Band|t> |
I am always 'anonymous' ... and the Login button is always available and never displays logged in |
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<Band|t> |
Auth directives in my apache config |
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<omry> |
coderanger, how would you suggest to run trac? tracd, mod_python or fcgi? |
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<Band|t> |
For the /usr/share/trac/htdocs Directory I have setup Auth in my apache config |
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<Band|t> |
does more need to be done? |
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<coderanger_> |
Band|t: Pastebin your apache config |
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<coderanger_> |
lisppaste5: url |
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<lisppaste5> |
To use the lisppaste bot, visit http://paste.lisp.org/new/trac and enter your paste. |
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<coderanger_> |
omry: I like mod_python, but I am looking to switch to FCGI for memory consumption issues |
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<omry> |
what about tracd, how bad is it? |
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<omry> |
for a site with a medium to low load |
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<coderanger_> |
I already run Apache for other things, so there isn't much reason to bother |
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<omry> |
I am running on a new host, I don't have root there |
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<lisppaste5> |
Bandit pasted "Trac Apache Conf" at http://paste.lisp.org/display/28992 |
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<Band|t> |
Thnx for checking coderanger |
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<coderanger_> |
omry: shared host? |
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<alect> |
morning |
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<omry> |
coderanger, shared dedicated server. |
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<coderanger_> |
Band|t: You want the authentication to be on <Location /trac/login> |
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<omry> |
I can make admin requests |
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<coderanger_> |
omry: Apache + FCGI is probably your best bet |
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<coderanger_> |
alect: g'morning |
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<nhuisman> |
at what point does mod_python start to be slow? |
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<nhuisman> |
i'm probably only going to be running 3-4 users a time |
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<coderanger_> |
nhuisman: I wouldn't worry about it |
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<nhuisman> |
yeah I figured as much |
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<Band|t> |
Thanks coderanger ... but it possible to require me to be logged in to view any page in TRAC? |
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<coderanger_> |
The DB will probably bottleneck way before mod_python |
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<nhuisman> |
heh |
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<nhuisman> |
i'm just using the sqlite stuff |
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<coderanger_> |
Band|t: Remove all permissions from anonymous |
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<nhuisman> |
I wanted mysql but it mentioned the support wasn't very good yet |
