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<alect> |
coderanger: weird... |
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<Guardian> |
hi |
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<coderanger> |
Hello |
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<Guardian> |
would it be a solution to assign a numerical id to a title: == Title1 == #1 |
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<Guardian> |
or should i definitely forget it ? :) |
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<coderanger> |
A solution to what? |
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<Guardian> |
== Title1 == #1 |
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<Guardian> |
produces a ticket trac link |
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<Guardian> |
where i would like Title1 to have an id named "1" |
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<coderanger> |
Sounds like a bug in the parser |
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<coderanger> |
Though it may be unavoidable |
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<coderanger> |
Have you tried just using #head1 or something similar? |
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<Guardian> |
starting with a letter works |
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<asmodai> |
Guardian: that the InterWiki stuff you were trying? |
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<Guardian> |
well, i was experiencing with both InterWiki and GeneralLinkSyntaxPlugin (renamed to TracGeneralLink) |
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<Guardian> |
so that "reference:001" points to /trac/myproject/wiki/References#001 |
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<coderanger> |
I really need to make a bibtex plugin |
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<coderanger> |
maybe I should do that this weekend |
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<Guardian> |
on my References wiki page i wanted to assign a specific id to a title |
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<Guardian> |
== Reference 001 == #001 |
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<Guardian> |
but this does not work because #001 is turned into a ticket link |
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<coderanger> |
Why not do "reference:001" --> /trac/myproject/wiki/References#R001 |
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<Guardian> |
anyway, i did == Reference 001 == #r001 which works |
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<coderanger> |
heh |
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<Guardian> |
:) |
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<Guardian> |
in the end i'm still hesitating between interwiki and general link plugin because general link plugin offers the opportunity to alter the display |
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<Guardian> |
like, reference:001 displays [001] |
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<Guardian> |
but it's a minor detail |
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<Guardian> |
having "reference:001" displayed can also be good because it emphasizes explicitly on the fact that it's a link to a reference |
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<Guardian> |
and also, using interwiki may be a better choice in the long term since it's integrated --> no potential break when upgrading |
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<Guardian> |
coderanger: i guess that parsing bibtext is not that easy. somehow, now that i started my reference page with my own rules (simple rules like author, book / paper title, chapter / paragraph, year, publisher) i'm wondering if bibtex would not be overkill |
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<coderanger> |
Guardian: Its as close to a standard as youre going to find though |
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<coderanger> |
Though it probably would store in the DB, not a bibtex file |
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<Guardian> |
coderanger: yeah having a separate bibtex file would not be that usefull |
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<coderanger> |
But its useful for import/export |
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<Guardian> |
would you use a library with python bindings or do everything in python ? |
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<coderanger> |
Do you know of one? |
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<Guardian> |
although i don't know python, i hade a look at existing stuff about bibtex in case i decide to code a plugin. found unix libs with python bindings |
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<Guardian> |
but this raises the question of portability |
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<coderanger> |
Probably easier to just do it in pure python |
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<coderanger> |
PyParsing ftw! |
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<Guardian> |
also, i found that somehow all existing tools consisted in somehow offer a native editor coded in C/C++ that would manipulate a bibtex file |
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<Guardian> |
not that usefull for trac |
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<Guardian> |
somehow overload in my sentences :) |
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<coderanger> |
I also need to find a useful way to mix Pages and bibtex |
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<Guardian> |
http://www.hodique.info/public/bibliography |
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<Guardian> |
uses a bibtex plugin , afair implementation is php |
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<Guardian> |
http://www.hodique.info/blog/2006/2409_bibtex_and_dokuwiki?s=bibtex |
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<asmodai> |
coderanger: pygame? :) |
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<coderanger> |
Not wiki pages, Pages the word processor |
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<coderanger> |
asmodai: hmm? |
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<asmodai> |
http://paste.lisp.org/display/29254 :) |
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<coderanger> |
Yeah, was arguing with that for a while |
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<asmodai> |
And who won the debate? |
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<coderanger> |
A different GUI toolkit that can actually deal with being embedded in an app |
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<asmodai> |
Any known name or obscure? |
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<coderanger> |
PGU's gui |
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<coderanger> |
Playing with it now, its closer to working than I've gotten anything else |
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<coderanger> |
(wxpython, tk, ocempgui) |
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<coderanger> |
still having some problems with it, but they are fixable at least |
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<Guardian> |
is it a plugin that does spelling checking on trac.edgewall.org ? |
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<coderanger> |
? |
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<Guardian> |
i'm filling a bug for this explicit id stuff, and my spelling mistakes are underlined in red like in word |
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<Guardian> |
and i don't remember having this in my own trac installation |
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<coderanger> |
Thats a browser thing |
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<Guardian> |
oh yeah switched to firefox 2 this morning :) |
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<coderanger> |
Did you just upgrade to FF2? |
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<coderanger> |
thatl do it |
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<Guardian> |
http://trac.edgewall.org/ticket/4072 done |
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<Guardian> |
seems i don't use the wiki like others, last time i touched trac, i opened another minor wiki bug :) |
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<Guardian> |
are trac 0.10 packages for ubuntu available somewhere ? edgy eft ships 0.9.6-2 |
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<omry> |
morning. how do I prevent standard complient bots from crawling the repository? they waste way to much bandwidth for no real purpose. |
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<coderanger> |
omry: robots.txt? |
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<omry> |
coderanger, yes but where would it go for it to work? right now, trac tries to handle the robots.txt access: http://firestats.cc/robots.txt |
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<coderanger> |
Are you using Apache? |
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<omry> |
apache and tracd |
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<omry> |
via a proxy. |
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<omry> |
I might change that because my tracd just died on me. had to restart it. |
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<omry> |
it didn't accept any http requests.. for crazed by something. |
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<coderanger> |
<Location /robots.txt> SetHandler None </Location> |
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<omry> |
can I do it via tracd? |
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<omry> |
I have no full control over the apache configuration. |
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<coderanger> |
No |
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<omry> |
what about a special handler? |
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<omry> |
in trac |
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<coderanger> |
Hmm, that could work |
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<omry> |
how hard is it to stitch something like that? |
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<coderanger> |
brb |
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<omry> |
k |
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<coderanger> |
aaand done |
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<coderanger> |
en route to trac-hacks |
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<coderanger> |
omry: # ITemplateProvider methods |
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<coderanger> |
def get_templates_dirs(self): |
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<coderanger> |
from pkg_resources import resource_filename |
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<coderanger> |
return [resource_filename(__name__, 'templates')] |
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<coderanger> |
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<coderanger> |
def get_htdocs_dirs(self): |
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<coderanger> |
from pkg_resources import resource_filename |
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<coderanger> |
return [('tracforge', resource_filename(__name__, 'htdocs'))] |
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<coderanger> |
Whoops |
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<coderanger> |
http://trac-hacks.org/wiki/RobotsTxtPlugin |
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<omry> |
coderanger, you are a true trac commander :) |
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<omry> |
thanks a lot. |
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<coderanger> |
Its a pretty simple plugin :P |
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<omry> |
I know, but much needed. |
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<omry> |
I think the bots killed my tracd. |
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<coderanger> |
Also up on PyPI now |
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<omry> |
PyPI? |
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<coderanger> |
so just easy_install TracRobotsTxt |
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<coderanger> |
http://cheeseshop.python.org/pypi?:action=browse&c=516 |
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<omry> |
coderanger, did you know that if you use wget on the "download zipped source from here" link you get an html file/ |
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<omry> |
? |
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<omry> |
hmm, maybe I forgot to quote it. |
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<coderanger> |
Yeah, bash stops parsing at & |
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<coderanger> |
But you don't need to download that |
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<coderanger> |
The prebuilt eggs are already online |
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<omry> |
its not that simple for me, I am running trac under my home dir, with its own python etc. |
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<omry> |
what do you suggest? |
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<coderanger> |
easy_install TracRobotsTxt -d /path/to/env/plugins |
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<coderanger> |
or if that fails |
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<coderanger> |
easy_install TracRobotsTxt -d /path/to/env/plugins -m |
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<omry> |
[Errno 13] Permission denied: '/usr/lib/python2.4/site-packages/test-easy-install-2486.write-test' |
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<omry> |
it tries to install to the system python. |
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<coderanger> |
easy_install -d /path/to/env/plugins -m TracRobotsTxt |
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<coderanger> |
-d gives it a nondefault install directory |
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<omry> |
I think I should be running it with the python I got in /home/omry/trac |
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<omry> |
but it dose not seem to have easy_install. |
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<coderanger> |
in any event you can just download the egg |
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<coderanger> |
http://cheeseshop.python.org/packages/2.4/T/TracRobotsTxt/TracRobotsTxt-1.0-py2.4.egg#md5=d4f85be487f72fba2445b5f2e4b81f40 |
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<omry> |
and how would I install it? I stil need to use easy_install , no? |
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<coderanger> |
Just copy the egg into the plugins folder |
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<omry> |
I put it in the shared plugins dir, do I need to restart trac? I don't see the plugin in the admin interface. |
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<coderanger> |
yes |
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<coderanger> |
all plugin changes require a restart |
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<omry> |
http://firestats.cc/ |
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<omry> |
File "/home/omry/trac/lib/python2.4/site-packages/setuptools-0.6c3-py2.4.egg/pkg_resources.py", line 1240, in _extract_resource |
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<omry> |
zip_stat = self.zipinfo[zip_path] |
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<omry> |
KeyError: 'robotstxt/templates' |
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<coderanger> |
hrmm |
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<coderanger> |
New version uploaded |
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<omry> |
what is the url? |
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<omry> |
same as befoer? |
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<omry> |
obviously not..it had md5 in it |
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<coderanger> |
http://cheeseshop.python.org/packages/2.4/T/TracRobotsTxt/TracRobotsTxt-1.0.1-py2.4.egg |
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<omry> |
http://cheeseshop.python.org/packages/2.4/T/TracRobotsTxt/TracRobotsTxt-1.0.1-py2.4.egg |
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<omry> |
hm.. |
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<coderanger> |
looks like its working |
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<omry> |
yeah |
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<omry> |
what is the wiki page again? |
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<coderanger> |
RobotsTxt |
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<omry> |
cool. its working. |
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<omry> |
you da man :) |
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<coderanger> |
You probably want "User-agent: * \nDisallow: /browser" |
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<coderanger> |
maybe /log and /changeset too |
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<omry> |
log and changeset? |
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<omry> |
what are those? |
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<coderanger> |
http://firestats.cc/log/ |
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<coderanger> |
http://firestats.cc/changeset/309 |
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<coderanger> |
;-) |
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<coderanger> |
/log only pulls from the cache though, so its not as big a hit |
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<omry> |
what about /report ? |
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<omry> |
its a heavy one, no? |
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<coderanger> |
Thats the SQL |
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<coderanger> |
Anything that hits the Subversion API is a big hit |
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<coderanger> |
thats just /browser and /chageset IIRC |
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<omry> |
you think I should leave /report out? |
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<coderanger> |
Seems add to allow it |
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<coderanger> |
since it should be indexed |
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<coderanger> |
er, shouldnt |
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<omry> |
http://firestats.cc/robots.txt |
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<coderanger> |
Looks good to me |
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<omry> |
great. |
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<omry> |
thanks a lot. goint to eat, laterz. |
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<Guardian> |
is there a way to use '[' and ']' characters in a link title ??? [http://www.example.com [this is example.com]] does not work, seems that regex matching ends to early |
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<nextime> |
Guardian : i don't know, but try with [http://www.example.com \[example\]] or with [http://www.example.com '[example]'] |
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<Guardian> |
\[example\] does not work |
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<Guardian> |
'[example]' does |
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<Guardian> |
thx :) |
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<solar_ant> |
greetings to all::) |
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<kop_> |
hello |
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<kop_> |
I think I could use one more step in the workflow |
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<kop_> |
"resolved", but not "closed" |
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<kop_> |
OR, a way to see what tickets were closed in the last X days |
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<Wombert> |
hi |
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<Wombert> |
I set restrict_owners to true |
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<Wombert> |
and now I see "old" users I don't want to show up |
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<Wombert> |
where are they stored? |
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<kop_> |
eh |
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<kop_> |
time is stored as integer when using sqlite |
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<kop_> |
how do I do to compare time > "one week ago" |
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<exarkun> |
one week ago is the current time (as an integer) minus a week (as an integer) |
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<exarkun> |
if it uses posix timestamps, that means time() - (60 * 60 * 24 * 7) |
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<exarkun> |
if it uses something else then the constants are off by some factor but the idea is the same |
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<pacopablo> |
morning all |
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<kop_> |
but in a trac report: how do I get time() or localtime()? |
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<exarkun> |
time("now") or date("now") |
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<exarkun> |
actually it looks like there's a bunch more time manipulation support than I thought |
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<exarkun> |
so maybe you want to do it some other way |
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<jrydberg> |
kop_: what are you working on? |
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<exarkun> |
anyway http://www.sqlite.org/cvstrac/wiki?p=DateAndTimeFunctions |
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<kop_> |
oh yes! |
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<kop_> |
there is strftime() available! |
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<kop_> |
my problems are solved :) |
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<jrydberg> |
who cares? :) |
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<jrydberg> |
kop_: working on a saturday evening? |
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<jrydberg> |
what do lil-kaninan say about that? |
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<kop_> |
jrydberg: "I'm in denmark on my extrakneck" |
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<jrydberg> |
kop_: Oh. I'm for one NOT hangover today. Life kicks ass. |
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<jrydberg> |
*is NOT |
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<jrydberg> |
kop_: so what are you doing in denmark? |
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<kop_> |
jrydberg: it's not me who's in denmark. I'm at my office on a saturday evening though :o) |
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<jrydberg> |
kop_: Ah, got it. |
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<jrydberg> |
kop_: Did I say that I've resigned? |
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<kop_> |
jrydberg: from one job, yes. (I suppose you don't mean you've resgned from the next one already?) |
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<jrydberg> |
I have. My goal now is to move to some former east european country and just screw hookers all day long |
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<kop_> |
I see |
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<jrydberg> |
I'm gonna "give them Sweden" and they will give me ... something else. |
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<kop_> |
mmkay |
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<kop_> |
my problem with trac as of now is that there is no individual "resolved" step |
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<pacopablo> |
what do you mean? |
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<kop_> |
and the workflow-related patches are not stable, it seems |
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<kop_> |
pacopablo: I mean, new -> assigned (-> resolved) -> closed |
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<pacopablo> |
ahh |
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<kop_> |
at the daily morning roundup, the teamleaders need to be able to know what was finished the day before |
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<kop_> |
for a view, that's solvable with the modified-time comparison |
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<kop_> |
"stuff in status closed modified the last X days" |
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<kop_> |
but then there's no "check off" action invloved. that adds complexity :-/ |
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<kop_> |
...ideas, anyone? |
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<exarkun> |
stabalize one of the workflow patches so it can be included in trunk |
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<kop_> |
oh, only that? will do in a minute :o) |
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<sid506> |
or add a custom field that is a checkbox |
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<coderanger> |
Wombert: session_attribute |
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<coderanger> |
and session |
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<TobiasFar> |
hi, when trying to run trac-admin i get the following error: http://pastecode.com/7658 |
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<TobiasFar> |
i'm using mysql database on freebsd |
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<TobiasFar> |
what cause this error? |
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<hacim> |
I've set up authentication, but when I try to go to my reports page, I get asked for a login/passwd, but it doesn't work, apache has in error.log: access to /eggplant/report/8 failed, reason: require directives present and no Authoritative handler. |
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<hacim> |
I needed to install libapache2-mod-auth-plain and enable auth_plain |
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<Blackhex> |
hello |
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<coderanger> |
Can anyone get to trac-hacks? |
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<Blackhex> |
me not |
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<coderanger> |
yeah, / is at 100% full |
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<Blackhex> |
whau some weir python errory |
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<coderanger> |
"No space left on device" |
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<Blackhex> |
yes |
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<Blackhex> |
but that type of traceback I never seen |
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<coderanger> |
It is coming from fcgi itself |
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<Blackhex> |
ah, that might be because I never used fcgi :-) |
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<coderanger> |
It is having a compound error, since it is trying to write the exception to trac.log and dying |
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<Blackhex> |
:-) |
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<coderanger> |
trac.log was taking up 2.5G |
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<coderanger> |
alect: Might want to install logrotate |
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<Blackhex> |
what? how's it possible |
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<coderanger> |
trac-hacks gets a lot of traffic |
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<Blackhex> |
spam? |
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<coderanger> |
alect: I am putting the log back down to WARN for right now |
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<coderanger> |
Blackhex: Yeah, and search crawlers |
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<coderanger> |
2-4 spam attempts a minute now |
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<Blackhex> |
nice |
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<Blackhex> |
what's a track-hacks's cpu an mem anyway? |
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<coderanger> |
2.8GHz/1GB |
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<Blackhex> |
p4? |
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<coderanger> |
looks like it |
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<Blackhex> |
ok thx |
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<coderanger> |
why? |
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<Blackhex> |
I'm only curious if it is enought for such a favourite server |
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<coderanger> |
"probably not" |
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<coderanger> |
pacopablo is working on transferring the data into postgres, which should help |
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<Blackhex> |
do you thing that if db would be on different computer it would be better? |
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<Blackhex> |
s/thing/think |
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<coderanger> |
its more of an issue with postgres being more efficient for handling lots of simultaneous queries |
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<Blackhex> |
i know but, but only hipothetically if would be bette to have postgres on same computer or different |
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<coderanger> |
You would have to profile it and find out |
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<Blackhex> |
:-) |
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<coderanger> |
depends on how fast the network is vs. disk vs. memory |
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<Blackhex> |
did you ever used mod_ftpd? |
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<Rica> |
sorry for this stupid question , but what is called 'ham' and what is the purpore in the SpamFilter Plugin ? |
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<coderanger> |
Rica: Ham is data that is known to be valid |
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<coderanger> |
The opposite of spam |
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<Blackhex> |
:-) |
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<Rica> |
oh thanks coderange... google had so much ham answer.. and nothing related to spam :p thanks |
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<coderanger> |
Blackhex: No, I am one of those people who thinks FTP should be banned |
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<Rica> |
you're on the sshfs/sftp side ? |
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<Blackhex> |
coderanger: I know but sshfs is too slow |
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<coderanger> |
Blackhex: DAV+HTTPS ftw! |
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<coderanger> |
Also VPN links and NFS/SMB/AFP |
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<misc> |
smb over ssh ? |
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<Getty> |
everything is better then the protocol concept of ftp |
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<Blackhex> |
I had some problems with smb always so I'd say that everything is better htan smb |
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<Blackhex> |
:-) |
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