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November 12, 2006

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[02:32:44] <coderanger> matt_good: What do you think about suggesting a Trac (or more likely Trac plugin) sprint for pycon?
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[04:38:59] <radek> should authz_file in trac.ini affect permissions for using 'Browser' under trac ?
[04:39:30] <radek> because it doesnt ;) so what is the purpose of it? (http://trac.edgewall.org/wiki/FineGrainedPermissions)
[04:41:11] <coderanger> It does
[04:41:25] <coderanger> What problems are you seeing
[04:43:08] <dog4> i havent figured out how it does it
[04:43:19] <dog4> i can show you my configs, i fiddled with it for hours yesterday
[04:43:30] <dog4> and then all of the sudden it started working
[04:43:41] <coderanger> dog4: Its in the repo access system IIRC
[04:44:12] <dog4> coderanger: what do you mean?
[04:44:49] <coderanger> The authz control system
[04:45:25] <coderanger> http://trac.edgewall.org/browser/tags/trac-0.10/trac/versioncontrol/svn_fs.py#L347
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[04:52:49] <dog4> i just mean i havent figured out why it started working all of the sudden, i was going back to a config that didnt work before
[04:53:05] <dog4> it possibly has to do with having to restart apache suspiciously often when changing stuff
[04:55:13] <dog4> even if just changing the trac config
[04:55:23] <dog4> its a hideous bitch and curse cycle
[04:57:33] <coderanger> dog4: Anything that is only read on startup requires a server restart
[04:57:52] <coderanger> It looks like RealSubversionAuthorizer falls into that category
[04:58:00] <coderanger> Might want to file a ticket if there isn't one already
[04:58:36] <dog4> hmm, ok
[05:00:23] <coderanger> the major thing that needs restarts are changes to [components]
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[05:14:05] <firsm> hi
[05:18:59] <coderanger> Haldo
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[05:45:32] <firsm> I'm trying to enable syntax coloring, my debug log says "TypeError: expected sequence of 2 WordLists (1 provided)" and then it falls back to enscript
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[05:52:24] <iXce> hi :)
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[05:57:01] <Bourdieu> Does anybody has succeded in setting up trac with a mercurial back end ?
[05:57:20] <The_Tick> mercurial?
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[05:57:48] <The_Tick> ahh
[05:57:57] <The_Tick> one of those experimental scm's
[05:58:23] <Bourdieu> yes, there is a plugin for trac (experimental too)
[05:58:35] <Bourdieu> but I can't make it work
[05:58:58] <The_Tick> sounds like a job for mercurial2svn
[05:59:01] <The_Tick> :P
[05:59:19] <iXce> hmm
[05:59:34] <iXce> i'm experiencing some problems with trac & lighttpd :(
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[06:03:14] <The_Tick> iXce: what problems?
[06:03:35] <iXce> my trac is on bugs.domain.com/
[06:03:45] <iXce> and i'm using lighttpd with fastcgi stuff
[06:04:40] <iXce> will be easier if i show it directly :)
[06:04:41] <iXce> http://bugs.beryl-project.org/browser
[06:04:45] <iXce> that does not work
[06:04:48] <iXce> http://bugs.beryl-project.org/browser/browser
[06:04:50] <iXce> and that does..
[06:05:44] <The_Tick> hrmph
[06:05:47] <The_Tick> I forget how to fix that
[06:05:49] <The_Tick> but it is fixable
[06:06:01] <iXce> i thought the TRAC_URI_ROOT would help but no..
[06:06:07] <iXce> http://pastebin.com/822489
[06:09:24] <The_Tick> well it's not TRAC_URI_ROOT
[06:09:27] <iXce> oh?
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[06:10:05] <The_Tick> $HTTP["url"] =~ "^/chrome/" {
[06:10:06] <The_Tick> # no fastcgi
[06:10:06] <The_Tick> }
[06:10:15] <The_Tick> that's the only mention of chrome I have in a working install
[06:10:21] <The_Tick> don't think it'll fix your problem
[06:10:26] <iXce> yeah
[06:10:27] <The_Tick> but you've got a line I don't
[06:10:36] <iXce> which one?
[06:11:58] <coderanger> iXce: Known bug
[06:12:13] <iXce> oh?
[06:12:23] <coderanger> one sec, finding the ticket
[06:12:37] <iXce> [17:20:31], <wattornot>, coderanger: TRAC_URI_ROOT doesn't seem to have had any effect
[06:12:44] <coderanger> I am aware
[06:12:44] <iXce> hmm yeah i had found that :p
[06:12:57] <iXce> yeah
[06:13:22] <coderanger> http://trac.lighttpd.net/trac/ticket/729
[06:13:42] <coderanger> Even the lighty people are running their trac under a /trac path
[06:14:19] <iXce> ow
[06:14:25] <The_Tick> you can probably fix it with htaccess
[06:14:26] <The_Tick> one sec
[06:14:49] <The_Tick> http://natmaster.com/articles/installing_trac.php
[06:14:53] <iXce> htaccess? lighttpd can use .htaccess? :)
[06:14:55] <The_Tick> the prettiness section
[06:14:59] <The_Tick> dunno if it can
[06:15:01] <iXce> hanks, reading it
[06:15:07] <The_Tick> bah, this howto assumes apache
[06:15:09] <The_Tick> dunno dude
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[06:15:27] <coderanger> iXce: Your best bet is to use a non-/ location
[06:15:30] <coderanger> with / redirecting there
[06:15:43] <iXce> yeah
[06:15:53] <coderanger> Or ask how t.e.o is running
[06:16:05] <coderanger> the ML would be best for that
[06:16:42] <iXce> t.e.o?
[06:16:49] <iXce> oh yeah, sorry
[06:17:01] <iXce> thanks
[06:17:42] <coderanger> trac.edgewall.org
[06:17:50] <coderanger> It is using lighty
[06:17:58] <The_Tick> trac.adiumx.com
[06:18:01] <The_Tick> same there
[06:18:06] <The_Tick> hmm
[06:18:12] <The_Tick> why isn't simpleticket working?
[06:18:17] * The_Tick investigates
[06:18:35] <coderanger> The_Tick: If you say 0.11dev I may smack you ;-)
[06:18:39] <The_Tick> nope
[06:18:42] <The_Tick> it's on .10
[06:19:07] <The_Tick> simpleticket.* = enabled is right, right?
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[06:19:25] <coderanger> yeah
[06:19:39] <The_Tick> [simpleticket]
[06:19:40] <The_Tick> hide = milestone, owner, priority, severity
[06:19:41] <coderanger> the plugin isnt loaded though
[06:19:44] <The_Tick> those are too
[06:19:48] <The_Tick> ya, that's the problem
[06:20:06] <The_Tick> hrmph
[06:27:23] <firsm> hmm, simpleticket, that might be worth a try.
[06:27:44] <coderanger> heh
[06:34:06] <firsm> The_Tick: Does it work for you now?
[06:37:17] <firsm> The_Tick: Ah, you have to revoke your user (anonymous) the TICKET_CREATE permission and give it TICKET_CREATE_SIMPLE instead
[06:37:26] <coderanger> The_Tick: Not loading for growl's trac either
[06:37:45] <coderanger> firsm: He is having a different issue
[06:37:54] <firsm> coderanger: okay
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[06:41:34] <The_Tick> I've got paid work to work on first
[06:41:35] <The_Tick> heh
[06:42:49] <firsm> Hmm, when writing a ticket using simpleticket, it doesn't show you your ticket when you hit "submit"
[06:43:26] <coderanger> firsm: It will if you have TICKET_VIEW
[06:43:58] <firsm> coderanger: Ah, thank you
[06:44:21] <firsm> coderanger: Hmm, I have TICKET_VIEW for anonymous
[06:44:47] <coderanger> Try navigating directly to the ticket
[06:45:01] <keetraxx> i just upgraded to trac 0.10.1 it seems like everything works, except the "Basic Settings" page from the webadmin seems to crash without a error message while rendering the page... does it ring a bell, anyone?
[06:45:27] <coderanger> keetraxx: Put the log on debug and check that
[06:45:48] <firsm> coderanger: Yeah that works for anonymous, but there's no feedback when writing a ticket
[06:46:17] <coderanger> Where do you get redirected to after hitting submit
[06:46:50] <coderanger> aha
[06:46:55] <coderanger> I see the problem
[06:47:10] * coderanger fixity
[06:47:11] <keetraxx> coderanger: i did log on debug level, but there doesn't seem to be an error logged at all. all i got were egg plugin loading messages
[06:47:16] <firsm> coderanger: It submits it and it takes me back to the "New Ticket" page, all fields are blank, but the ticket has been written
[06:47:37] <iXce> thanks, cya
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[06:48:40] <coderanger> firsm: Fix committed
[06:49:17] <firsm> coderanger: ah cool, thanks
[06:51:35] <firsm> coderanger: that did it. :)
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[06:56:14] <firsm> Hmm, does anyone have a demo of the discussion plugin?
[07:00:38] <coderanger> doubtful
[07:00:48] <coderanger> few plugins keep public demos
[07:01:04] <coderanger> its too hard to maintain
[07:01:18] <firsm> Hmm, just figured it works with 0.9 and sqlite/pgsql only
[07:01:35] <coderanger> hmm?
[07:02:06] <firsm> That's what it says on the wiki page. I'm running 0.10 and mysql
[07:02:17] <The_Tick> coderanger: I don't think it'd be too hard
[07:02:33] <The_Tick> just script it to replace the conf files every few hours with known good ones
[07:02:39] <coderanger> firsm: Where does it say that ...
[07:02:53] <The_Tick> but that'd require a rather hefty box, heh
[07:03:07] <coderanger> I see it says pg or sqlite, but nothing about 0.10
[07:03:50] <firsm> coderanger: http://trac-hacks.org/wiki there is only 0.9
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[07:03:51] <coderanger> The_Tick: If it was some kind of centralized effort, yeah
[07:04:13] <coderanger> The_Tick: More likely have it run in a vmware image, and just wipe the whole thing every hour or so
[07:04:19] <coderanger> and copy over a new one
[07:04:44] <coderanger> But for every author to keep a demo site wouldn't be worth it
[07:05:39] <The_Tick> ya
[07:06:07] <coderanger> okay, its 10AM
[07:06:09] <coderanger> time to sleep
[07:08:14] <keetraxx> gn8
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[09:37:54] <matt_good> coderanger: so are you planning on coming to PyCon?
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[09:44:22] <pabl0> hi
[09:45:16] <pabl0> I've been using SpamFilter but for 'some' reason now it classifies all my comments as spam, it gives them negative karma unless the user is registered (which I don't like)
[09:45:30] <pabl0> any ideas why it's acting in this way?
[09:46:01] <pabl0> Tried sending a test (free viagra) and it gets -1 karma, Tried sending a real comment and too, it gets -1 karma
[09:46:28] <pabl0> cmlenz, any ideas?
[09:49:58] <matt_good> pabl0: Akismet seems to be pretty much broken ATM, so you can turn off that filter or configure it to contribute 0 karma
[09:50:12] <matt_good> the Bayes filter (with a little training) is much more reliable
[09:50:12] <pabl0> ah ok
[09:50:19] <pabl0> okey :)
[09:50:20] <pabl0> thanks!
[09:55:44] <pabl0> err.. where can I enable bayes? which option?
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[10:01:14] <matt_good> if you have WebAdmin installed you can go into the Plugins section and enable it
[10:01:26] <matt_good> you'll need to install SpamBayes first though
[10:01:33] <pabl0> ok
[10:02:02] <matt_good> http://prdownloads.sourceforge.net/spambayes/spambayes-1.0.4.tar.gz?download
[10:02:51] <matt_good> extract it, then on the command line cd to the folder and run "easy_install ."
[10:06:27] <pabl0> yep
[10:06:29] <pabl0> thanks
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[10:20:30] <firsm> Should the spam filter automatically show up after enabling tracspamfilter in trac.ini?
[10:20:53] <firsm> (in the webadmin panel)
[10:23:22] <firsm> ok nvm
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[10:57:55] <per> Hi, I've just installed the webadmin plugin, but it doesn't show up... track.log shows this:
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[10:58:21] <per> uh, typical
[10:58:54] <dog4> dude, paste site
[10:59:15] <per> yeah, I will. I dind't think ten lines wood count as flooding.
[11:01:45] <per> http://per.wiklander.biz/trac.log.txt
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[11:02:41] <dog4> possibly eggcache no good?
[11:02:55] <per> that is with Trac 0.10.1 btw
[11:03:21] <per> dog4: ok, what do I do to find out about that?
[11:04:18] <matt_good> per: sounds like you don't have permissions
[11:04:19] <dog4> check the configs
[11:04:39] <matt_good> you'll need to give yourself TRAC_ADMIN, or one of the other admin permissions
[11:05:19] <per> matt_good: permission list
[11:05:19] <per> Per Wiklander developer
[11:05:19] <per> developer WIKI_ADMIN
[11:06:14] <per> oh! TRACK_ADMIN... why did I give the group WIKI_ADMIN? :-)
[11:06:42] <matt_good> yeah, there are no admin pages for the wiki
[11:06:56] <matt_good> and that's TRAC_ADMIN, no K
[11:08:16] <per> that did it. easy problem, but hard when you look in the wrong drirection. thanks for the help!
[11:08:47] <per> btw, will I ever teach my fingers not to insert a 'k' in Trac? :-)
[11:10:41] <The_Tick> yes
[11:10:47] <The_Tick> and then you'll forget to type track
[11:10:58] <The_Tick> takes a few months
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[11:24:05] <matt_good> per: yeah, but now when I mean to type "track" in my eMusic app I misspell it :)
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[12:46:29] <johnjosephbachir> i'm having problems with the web admin plugin since i upgraded to .10
[12:47:04] <johnjosephbachir> http://pastie.textmate.org/22419
[12:55:38] <johnjosephbachir> i am on python 2.3
[13:06:12] <johnjosephbachir> whoops, it's TicketDelete's fault i think. forgot that that was separate.
[13:06:32] <pacopablo> hmm, is there a basic template of regex to use in get_wiki_syntax if wanting to simply create another binary style syntax?
[13:06:39] <pacopablo> like $$$ $$$ ?
[13:07:12] <pacopablo> it looks like the current binary syntax providers are built in and not using the IWikiSyntaxProvider interface
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[13:49:55] <bariel> regarding to this page http://trac.edgewall.org/wiki/TracOnDebianSarge the svn repository can be read by the webserver, isnt it a security issue if the webserver can also read the passwd file?
[13:50:32] <The_Tick> isn't * a security issue in a networked system?
[13:51:45] <bariel> yes
[13:51:49] <The_Tick> so there you go
[13:52:24] <bariel> isnt it?
[13:52:33] <The_Tick> you just said it was
[13:52:41] <The_Tick> and now you are questioning your answer?
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[13:53:08] <bariel> i want to know your point of view
[13:53:29] <The_Tick> why does my point of view matter?
[13:53:50] <bariel> maybe you have brighter idea, why it should not a security issue in a networked system
[13:54:15] <The_Tick> so you don't believe in yourself?
[13:54:42] <The_Tick> so what if it's readable by the webserver
[13:54:49] <bariel> i dont have many experience, asking for others experience wont harm
[13:54:50] <The_Tick> if it's not accessable on the file system from the web
[13:54:51] <The_Tick> who cares?
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[14:18:26] <bariel> The_Tick, if i use websvn, so this file can be accessed from the web
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[14:34:43] <matt_good> bariel: are you referring to /etc/passwd or the htpasswd file used for Apache auth?
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[14:35:16] <matt_good> wtf?
[14:35:19] <matt_good> bariel: are you referring to /etc/passwd or the htpasswd file used for Apache auth?
[14:35:43] <bariel> i am refering to passwd from svn
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[14:36:31] <matt_good> no, Apache needs to be able to read that file, otherwise it won't be able to authenticate you
[14:36:33] <bariel> that file used by svnserve to authenticate the users
[14:36:50] <bariel> not the htpaswd used for apache
[14:38:10] <matt_good> no, it still shouldn't be an issue, the actual filesystem files from SVN are not exposed, just the files *inside* the repository
[14:38:51] <matt_good> unless you accidentally put your whole repo folder on the web, so don't do that :)
[14:38:53] <bariel> http://trac.edgewall.org/wiki/TracOnDebianSarge
[14:39:12] <bariel> according to that page, i should make 660 for the svn folder
[14:39:20] <bariel> which contains password file
[14:39:42] <bariel> it means, everyone who has access to change the webserver, can read the passwords
[14:41:58] <matt_good> does svnserve run as the same user Apache does?
[14:42:12] <bariel> no
[14:42:27] <bariel> but the svn folder has the group of apache
[14:43:03] <matt_good> well, Trac only requires read access to the repository
[14:43:48] <matt_good> I'm pretty sure that the svnserve passwords won't be read by the SVN library, so you could make that only readable by svnserve
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[14:44:38] <bariel> did you read this section, Fix permissions to the repository: ?
[14:44:39] <matt_good> those instructions were probably written under the assumption you would use mod_dav_svn, in which case Apache would need to be able to write to the repository
[14:46:13] <bariel> it describes tha the folder should have 660 permission and the owner of www-data
[14:46:33] <matt_good> yes, which would be necessary for mod_dav_svn, which you're not using
[14:46:46] <bariel> i am using it
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[14:51:39] <matt_good> why do you need both mod_dav_svn and svnserve?
[14:54:55] <pacopablo> matt_good: see my qustion above/
[14:54:57] <pacopablo> ?
[14:55:19] <pacopablo> re: template regex for creating more '''boo''' like wiki syntaxes?
[14:56:08] <matt_good> pacopablo: I believe the WikiGoodies plugin provides some syntaxes like that, so you may want to see how it does it
[15:00:05] <pacopablo> k, htnks
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[15:19:36] <otavio> cmlenz: Hi
[15:19:55] <otavio> cmlenz: Can you talk?
[15:20:11] <otavio> is Jonas here?
[15:22:59] <The_Tick> might be better to just ask your question
[15:33:02] <alect> morning
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[15:33:31] <matt_good> otavio: what's up?
[15:36:31] <otavio> matt_good: No problem. We solve.
[15:36:50] <otavio> matt_good: Jonas sent to me the fix for 0.8 branch for the security issue
[15:36:57] <otavio> matt_good: and it had a regression
[15:37:06] <otavio> matt_good: but a user already found how to solve it
[15:39:31] <otavio> matt_good: :-D
[15:39:59] <otavio> The_Tick: a patch to solve a security problem... don't worry
[15:40:03] <otavio> The_Tick: thanks a lot
[15:40:06] <otavio> matt_good: thanks a lot
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