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November 16, 2006

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[00:50:37] <Guychi> is there some web interface for setting the notification settings?
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[01:14:42] <otaku42> moin
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[03:27:24] <alect> greetings
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[03:42:37] <otaku42> re, and hi alect
[03:43:06] <alect> hey
[03:43:11] <alect> how goes the battle against spam?
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[03:48:04] <otaku42> alect: didn't manage to do the tests i planned for yesterday, hope to get them done today. apart from that: tossing ideas back and forth :)
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[03:57:53] <demianturner> morning
[03:58:13] <demianturner> has anyone had the problem where post-commit hook stops working after upgrade from Trac 0.9.x to latest?
[03:58:34] <alect> yes. you need to upgrade the hook as well
[03:58:43] <alect> api changes
[03:58:50] <demianturner> agile, any docs i can look at?
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[04:04:28] <demianturner> anyone got any ideas upgrading old Trac post-commit hooks, please :-)
[04:04:54] <alect> what ideas do you need? just do it
[04:05:24] <demianturner> what kind of comment is that?
[04:05:42] <demianturner> don't you think if i knew i wouldn't ask?
[04:09:25] <otaku42> demianturner: sorry, but what kind of instructions do you need for replacing the hook script with the new one?
[04:10:44] <demianturner> am looking into it now, didn't see anything in Trac docs
[04:11:34] <otaku42> demianturner: there is nothing in the trac docs about it afair. from what i can tell, it's just a matter of replacing one file (the hook script) with its new version.
[04:12:06] <demianturner> i'm presuming apt-get upgrade Trac did that
[04:12:40] <demianturner> the call from subversion post-commit file to trac's trac/contrib/trac-post-commit-hook seems to be the same file, same params
[04:12:40] <otaku42> demianturner: how should apt-get know to which subversion repositories you've copied the hook script to?
[04:13:07] <demianturner> i get your point however
[04:13:11] <otaku42> ah, ok. well, then check that the called file is the new version of the script.
[04:13:26] <demianturner> structure seems to be the subversion post-commit is the same, but only trac's trac-post-commit-hook has changed
[04:13:32] <otaku42> no idea if that is upgraded or not when you upgrade the package
[04:13:33] <demianturner> call from the former to the latter seems identical
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[04:19:31] <demianturner> otaku42, interesting, the apt-get upgrade *didn't* get the latest version of trac-post-commit-hook
[04:19:54] <demianturner> a diff of what i have against the file in 0.10.1 tag shows quite a few diffs
[04:20:08] <demianturner> seems counter-intuitive to me, wouldn't have expected that
[04:27:29] <coderanger> the post-commit-hook isnt part of Trac
[04:27:35] <coderanger> its jsut a contributed script
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[04:28:32] <demianturner> good to know ;-)
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[06:59:04] <[algo]> Hi
[06:59:09] <coderanger> aldo
[06:59:13] <[algo]> there is an *annoying feature* in trac
[06:59:18] <[algo]> when I write something
[06:59:23] <[algo]> and the ticket is edited while I write
[06:59:32] <[algo]> then after I submit, everything is lost
[06:59:38] <coderanger> Use the back button
[06:59:40] <[algo]> is there a plugin or hack to fix that ?
[06:59:44] <[algo]> coderanger: does not work
[06:59:49] <coderanger> Get a better browser
[06:59:49] <[algo]> fields are empty
[06:59:56] <[algo]> firefox
[06:59:59] <[algo]> good enough for me
[07:00:04] <coderanger> Clearly it isnt :P
[07:00:12] <[algo]> I seek for better trac
[07:00:24] <[algo]> plugin/hack
[07:00:31] <coderanger> The same thing happens with wiki edit collisions
[07:00:38] <[algo]> that's annoying
[07:00:45] <coderanger> there is no fix, as there is no good way to fix it
[07:00:51] <[algo]> no, there is
[07:01:01] <coderanger> Such as?
[07:01:24] <[algo]> if implemented corretly, you can show the form and new version
[07:01:31] <[algo]> there are numerous ways
[07:01:46] <coderanger> Not without dealing with merging changes
[07:01:49] <[algo]> the point is to keep the work I did somewhere (session or form)
[07:02:00] <coderanger> You could implement that in a plugin
[07:02:00] <[algo]> and let me to decide whether I should submit it
[07:02:06] <[algo]> and with tickets
[07:02:08] <coderanger> but its not a good solution
[07:02:08] <[algo]> that's crazy
[07:02:12] <[algo]> I'm adding a comment
[07:02:19] <[algo]> I don't really care that anyone added HIS comment
[07:02:33] <[algo]> but everything I wrote is lost
[07:02:48] <coderanger> Unless someone said the same thing as you. But what if you change a field to A, and someone else changes it to B
[07:03:05] <coderanger> In my browser (Shiira), the back button works
[07:03:18] <coderanger> AFAIK, thats the current "official" workaround
[07:03:40] <[algo]> that doesn't work
[07:03:46] <[algo]> hm
[07:03:51] <[algo]> maybe I should set headers ?
[07:03:55] <[algo]> my trac is under https
[07:04:04] <[algo]> maybe that's why it doesn't work ?
[07:05:01] <coderanger> possibly
[07:08:39] <[algo]> I'll try to dig.. People complain about it and start to hate trac =(
[07:09:27] <coderanger> Like I said, you could implement field saving as a plugin
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[07:13:29] <Guychi> when planning features for a future milestone, do you set a ticket type to enhancement or task?
[07:14:19] <coderanger> Usually enhancement, though you could make a new type if you wanted
[07:14:37] <Guychi> so what is "task" usually used for, conceptually?
[07:15:53] <coderanger> Guychi: "Write documentation", "Call VP of marketing about XXX", "Put more soda in the fridge"
[07:16:21] <Guychi> I see
[07:16:28] <coderanger> Thats my view anyway
[07:16:32] <coderanger> Use it as you want ;-)
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[09:09:55] <TheDude> Hello - I'm using trac 0.11dev and get a 'Error: Macro TracGuideToc(None) failed' - is this a bug of 0.11 or is my installation wrong?
[09:12:46] <TheDude> Let me reformulate my question: Is someone using Trac 0.11dev and sees the ToC out of the box ???
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[09:17:54] <TheDude> am i right that this is because of bug #3958 (http://trac.edgewall.org/ticket/3958) ?
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[09:56:31] <rrich> Hi All.... I just upgraded to .10.2 from .9.5....
[09:56:40] <rrich> now I can't login
[09:57:02] <rrich> I had the 'AccountManager' plugin installled, I upgraded it to latest one
[09:57:15] <coderanger_> which latest
[09:57:38] <Guychi> All of my tickets have an owner but the report "assigned, active tickets by owner" returns "no matches found". why?
[09:57:39] <rrich> but I get a 'No handler matched request to /login' error...
[09:57:55] <coderanger_> rrich: Which version
[09:58:12] <coderanger_> Guychi: Are they assigned?
[09:58:20] <coderanger_> Guychi: New and assigned are different states
[09:58:30] <coderanger_> assigned means the person has accepted the ticket
[09:59:39] <rrich> coderanger: version of accountManager from trunk
[09:59:43] <demianturner> to me it sounds like the AccountMgr plugin is no longer installed, and login nav hooks are missing
[10:00:00] <coderanger_> rrich: Thats for 0.11dev
[10:00:06] <demianturner> it's attept to reinstall is manually
[10:00:13] <demianturner> i'd attempt ..
[10:00:17] <Guychi> coderanger_: can I just remove the WHERE status = 'assigned' to get all tickets, by owner?
[10:00:18] <coderanger_> rrich: You want the version from the 0.10 folder
[10:00:28] <coderanger_> Guychi: Probably
[10:00:34] <coderanger_> Guychi: Try it ;-)
[10:00:39] <rrich> coderanger_: thanks, I'll trry that...
[10:00:54] <Guychi> coderanger_: how do I comment it out?
[10:02:47] <shwag> is there a way to add an item and link to the metanav ? Just like "My Site" http://mysite.com , nothing dynamic.
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[10:05:59] <cobaltsixty> 'lo
[10:06:30] <cobaltsixty> coderanger, i found the culprit that was hanging my trac's setup. There was a lockup on my svn repository :(
[10:07:43] <rrich> hmmm, I easy_installed r1559 of accountmanager, but can't find it in lib/site_packages, and I still can't login...
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[10:14:51] <rrich> Any ideas how I can reenable the login functionality?
[10:15:40] <rrich> I reinstalled the version of accountManager for .10, but still not getting the login page...
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[10:43:28] <rrich> woot! I got it working... there was a conflict with having both 'AccountManager' eggs in the site-packages folder...
[10:43:35] <rrich> now I can login!
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[11:48:28] <coderanger_> shwag: TracTabs plugin does that I think
[11:48:53] <shwag> i have not really dove into using plugins yet.
[11:49:24] <coderanger_> Well now is as good a time as any to start :P
[11:57:20] <converter> is there a way to disable wikiformatting in ticket descriptions and comments in trac.ini?
[11:58:13] <coderanger_> No
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[11:58:34] <coderanger_> You would have to either make a plugin or edit the source
[11:58:41] <coderanger_> Why would you do that though?
[11:58:51] <converter> good. thanks. that was the answer i hoped for. :)
[11:59:21] <converter> a user is asking for it, but i wanted to know for sure that it wasn't supported before i whipped out the cluebat.
[11:59:43] <coderanger_> Tell them to learn to use wiki formatting :P
[12:00:07] <converter> :)
[12:00:07] <coderanger_> The only thing you can easily disable wiki formatting in is the change logs
[12:00:43] <converter> someone went to all the trouble to create all those nice clicky things with documentation and stuff, i think he should learn how to click and read. :)
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[12:12:08] <dbt> stupid question -- I thought at one point there was a way to say, close a ticket by including svn metadata with a commit
[12:12:11] <dbt> am I on crack?
[12:12:17] <dbt> ("crac?")
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[12:14:32] <robvsruby> hi, im trying to use trac with apache and mod_fastcgi. when i login to trac i get 500 internal server error but there is nothing in the apache error log. any clues?
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[12:19:07] <coderanger_> dbt: post-commit hook script
[12:19:25] <coderanger_> robvsruby: Does tracd work?
[12:20:00] <robvsruby> it runs... i don't know how to configure tracd to do auth ill look that up. the apache serving runs too until i login. then it goes 500 internal server error
[12:20:28] <dbt> coderanger_: I gues I was thinking of the stuff in #1947
[12:20:29] <coderanger_> Pastebin your apache config
[12:20:35] <coderanger_> lisppaste5: url
[12:20:49] <lisppaste5> To use the lisppaste bot, visit http://paste.lisp.org/new/trac and enter your paste.
[12:21:08] <robvsruby> hmm i can't really test the tracd authentication because im using ldap to auth with apache
[12:21:38] <coderanger_> robvsruby: Does it work with simple htpasswd though
[12:21:52] <coderanger_> robvsruby: As that means Trac is okay, and its something in the auth config
[12:22:11] <robvsruby> the auth config is just copy/pasted from all the other locations it's in inside the httpd.conf
[12:22:21] <robvsruby> so i doubt its wrong
[12:22:29] <coderanger_> robvsruby: pastebin it
[12:23:39] <robvsruby> ok i am dumb i'd deleted one of the lines from the authconfig and didn't notice until you said that
[12:23:41] <robvsruby> sorry and thanks :)
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[12:27:24] <robvsruby> wow this rocks
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[12:41:28] <E-Rage> Is it possible to have a read-only installation?
[12:41:40] <E-Rage> My use case is archival purposes.
[12:43:04] <coderanger_> Just remove all edit permissions from everyone
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[12:48:31] <robvsruby> ok i'm confused again the wiki talks about "easy_install TracWebAdmin-0.1.1dev_r2765-py2.3.egg" but the file i downloaded has .zip on the end and when i run easy_install on it, it says it cannot find a setup script in TracWebAdmin. What did I get wrong?
[12:49:22] <robvsruby> n/m
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[12:50:44] <bjorn-> hi :-)
[12:51:08] <bjorn-> anyone here successfully installed the discussion plugin for trac?
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[13:02:03] <robvsruby> this is soooo col.
[13:02:09] <robvsruby> thanks for the help.
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[13:22:17] <vpj-cd> s
[13:23:33] <coderanger_> ?
[13:24:50] <zircu> for anyone who works on trac: i installed it to help our devel team to keep track of things and everytime i show them what it can do, like referencing something in the wiki to the /browser/trunk/file within documentation, they just love it even more
[13:25:17] <zircu> i can't wait to show them what else it can do
[13:28:49] <vpj-cd> Hi
[13:28:59] <vpj-cd> I am newbe here
[13:29:12] <vpj-cd> I want get some help
[13:29:26] <vpj-cd> I need chooice a good software open source
[13:29:35] <vpj-cd> to management a project
[13:29:42] <vpj-cd> open source
[13:29:47] <vpj-cd> in web
[13:30:07] <vpj-cd> and if is programing in java is better
[13:30:21] <vpj-cd> somebody know some solution?
[13:31:05] <coderanger_> Im not sure I understand your question
[13:35:33] <alect> morning
[13:35:45] <coderanger_> alect: G'morn
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[13:51:17] <jm_> hey guys
[13:52:00] <jm_> i'm having issues installing via mod_python
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[13:54:08] <jm_> http://rafb.net/paste/results/WrjwOn80.html is my conf snippet -- i don't see anything wrong, but i'm getting a 404 on /projects
[13:54:45] <vpj-cd> I need a good system to manage project
[13:55:00] <vpj-cd> somebody know some?
[13:55:16] <jm_> er, trac?
[13:55:21] <coderanger_> jm_: Anything in apache log
[13:55:25] <vpj-cd> open source and java and web
[13:55:39] <coderanger_> vpj-cd: Obviously people in here will say Trac ....
[13:55:40] <vpj-cd> ie dotproject
[13:56:28] <coderanger_> vpj-cd: This channel is about Trac, so I doubt we qualify as unbiased :P
[13:56:34] <jm_> File does not exist: /v
[13:56:42] <jm_> ar/www/html/projects
[13:56:59] <jm_> ugh, less
[13:57:32] <vpj-cd> ok I think to channel is to software to project managemnet
[13:57:36] <vpj-cd> I sorry
[13:57:38] <vpj-cd> bye
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[13:59:20] <jm_> coderanger_: any thoughts?
[14:02:56] <coderanger_> jm_: What version of mod_python
[14:03:08] <jm_> hmm
[14:03:09] <jm_> how can i check?
[14:03:29] <coderanger_> Depends on your platform
[14:03:37] <jm_> RHEL3 :<
[14:03:59] <coderanger_> rpm -q I think
[14:04:12] <coderanger_> not sure what the package name is htough
[14:04:23] <jm_> mod_python-3.0.3-5.ent
[14:05:02] <coderanger_> Thats pretty old, not sure if thatl work
[14:05:10] <jm_> ok, what's a more recent version?
[14:05:26] <coderanger_> I am running 3.2.10
[14:05:29] <jm_> i'm using trac-0.8.4-1.1.el3.rf btw
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[14:05:43] <coderanger_> Thats also very old, about 2.5 years
[14:05:49] <jm_> heh.
[14:05:50] <coderanger_> 0.10.2 is current Trac
[14:08:12] <jm_> well i'm also using apache 1.3.x, so maybe i don't need to upgrade
[14:08:23] <jm_> are there compatibitilty issues with these versions?
[14:10:48] <nextime> jm_ : maybe some with mod_python, no problems if you use fastcgi
[14:12:47] <jm_> hmm ok
[14:13:08] <coderanger_> jm_: I would very much advise you to update Trac though
[14:13:46] <jm_> ok
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[14:14:37] <pacopablo> anyone think of why headings wouldn't be getting tagged with paragraph links?
[14:14:56] <nextime> coderanger_ : my issue with base_url on tracforge was for a strange effect on a python module modified by me inside a chroot jail, now it work.
[14:16:20] <coderanger_> nextime: Weird
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[14:27:09] <pacopablo> coderanger_: you don't have any 0.10.1 sites around do you? (that use tags)
[14:27:23] <coderanger_> pacopablo: Nope, I've stayed on 0.10
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[14:27:40] <coderanger_> pending all the problems with .1 and .2 get resolved
[14:27:58] <pacopablo> coderanger_: well how about 0.10 w/ tags ?
[14:28:17] <coderanger_> Yahr
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