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November 30, 2006

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[00:21:17] <dds> coderanger: did you test this filter you hacked up?
[00:21:25] <coderanger> indeed
[00:22:15] <coderanger> why?
[00:24:39] <__doc__> uhoh :) I found a trac crash
[00:28:42] <__doc__> is it possible that the tracd can't cope with multiple simultaneous requests gracefully?
[00:29:30] <coderanger> I would check the docs on the Python web server
[00:29:36] <coderanger> thats most of what tracd is
[00:29:43] <coderanger> I would say its likely though
[00:29:51] <coderanger> not really designed for heavy use
[00:31:21] <__doc__> I get a socket broken pipe exception sometimes
[00:31:25] <dds> coderanger: nothing except that it works immaculately and is incredibly simple
[00:31:31] <dds> I'm just so incredibly impressed.
[00:32:13] <coderanger> __doc__: I remember reading tickets about this w.r.t. FCGI
[00:32:17] <coderanger> maybe its related?
[00:32:23] <dds> it's like, you didn't even leave anything left for me to do..
[00:32:37] <coderanger> dds: Like I said, you get good at this after a while ;-)
[00:32:51] <coderanger> I'm up to something like 30 plugins on trac-hacks.
[00:33:14] <dds> heh
[00:33:27] <dds> ask you some advice then?
[00:33:32] <coderanger> certainly
[00:34:58] <dds> we have several related projects e.g. project for a search engine and project for a web interface that uses it, etc. What's the best way to use trac in that environment? One use-case is that we want to be able to mark a bug in the other trac as a dependency of a bug in the first trac.
[00:35:32] <coderanger> hmm
[00:35:39] <coderanger> well there are two parts to that problem
[00:35:48] <coderanger> Trac lacks support for ticket dependencies
[00:36:04] <coderanger> and cross-env stuff is still pretty meager
[00:36:20] <coderanger> the first you can kind of ignore a al the gantt plugin
[00:36:48] <dds> nod, assume we're using the gantt plugin
[00:37:04] <coderanger> for the second you could try using/adapting TracForge's subscription system
[00:37:12] <dds> another issue is a site-wide search, without opening it up to google
[00:37:15] <dds> hmm
[00:37:22] <dds> yes I've been looking at tracforge a bit
[00:37:33] <coderanger> the tracforge "model" would mean having a central env
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[00:37:42] <coderanger> that aggregates the data from the others
[00:37:50] <coderanger> so you can do the charts in that env
[00:38:02] <coderanger> but still have the split view
[00:38:42] <jannek> Has anyone of you heard of any bug in trac / mod_python that would case trac to, after 1 day, start throwing
[00:38:46] <jannek> UnicodeDecodeError: 'utf8' codec can't decode bytes in ...
[00:38:49] <jannek> for almost any page?
[00:39:03] <jannek> Restarting apache (reloading mod_python) seems to solve it...
[00:39:09] <coderanger> jannek: Trac Version, DB, DB Version
[00:39:17] <jannek> trac 0.10
[00:39:37] <jannek> mod_python 3.1.4
[00:40:02] <jannek> I'm not sure which DB-type we're running.
[00:40:08] <coderanger> Is it MySQL?
[00:40:13] <jannek> the plan was to use MySQL but we might be running sqllite
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[00:40:19] <jannek> gonna check
[00:40:34] <coderanger> with mysql there have been some odd encoding glitches
[00:40:48] <coderanger> also pastebin the full traceback if you have it
[00:40:50] <coderanger> lisppaste5: url
[00:40:50] <lisppaste5> To use the lisppaste bot, visit http://paste.lisp.org/new/trac and enter your paste.
[00:41:03] <jannek> we're running MySQL
[00:41:22] <jannek> coderanger: well, the odd thing is that it seems to be time-dependant
[00:41:35] <jannek> cause it works, for like, one day, then the next day it's broken.
[00:41:40] <jannek> restarting apache, solves it.
[00:41:44] <jannek> until the next day =)
[00:42:09] <coderanger> sounds like it might be pooling related maybe?
[00:42:24] <coderanger> thats about the only time-dependent thing I can think of
[00:42:28] <lisppaste5> jannek pasted "UnicodeDecodeError after a day" at http://paste.lisp.org/display/30988
[00:42:58] <coderanger> Yep, http://trac.edgewall.org/ticket/3723
[00:43:11] <jannek> that was for the wiki
[00:43:11] <coderanger> looks like a match
[00:43:19] <jannek> got similar errors for almost every page.
[00:43:26] <jannek> and it's quite random aswell,
[00:43:33] <jannek> reloading it a few times might make the page render normally.
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[00:44:05] <coderanger> yeah, thats exactly what that ticket describes
[00:44:32] <coderanger> might want to mention you are seeing the same problem
[00:44:53] <jannek> yeah
[00:44:54] <jannek> "As Movex said, the trange thing is that it disappear for some time when restarting apache. And when I come back to work the day after, it is broken again."
[00:45:29] <jannek> hm
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[01:12:41] <__doc__> hey a kewl idea
[01:13:20] <__doc__> why not provide a html-browsing of zip/tgz/tbz2 archives in the browse source view?
[01:13:57] <coderanger> it would be veeeery slow
[01:14:29] <coderanger> trac doesn't cache any data from subversion, only metadata
[01:14:45] <coderanger> so it would be doing continual decompression
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[02:04:10] <Getty> and beside this, regulary noone got archives inside an svn ;)
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[02:29:11] <asmodai> coderanger: seen Chris lately?
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[02:45:45] <elvstone> hello folks, i just upgraded my trac (from 0.9.x to 0.10.x) and my previously working lighttpd+fcgi setup with TRAC_ENV_PARENT_DIR and TRAC_ENV_INDEX_TEMPLATE now gives me "Environment not found".. were those two env vars removed/renamed in 0.9->0.10?
[02:49:53] <elvstone> it seems to be still there so something else must have changed, i did trac-admin upgrade and trac-admin resync on my repositories.
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[02:53:00] <zachtib> if the spam filter plugin throws a false positive, is there a way to approve the ticket and have it be submitted?
[02:53:18] <zachtib> i marked the not-spam content as 'ham' but it still didn't submit the ticket
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[02:58:06] <dds> alright, thanks to coderanger's excelelnt help, I've got export directly from emacs org-mode to trac working
[02:58:09] <dds> w00t
[02:58:17] <dds> now I need import, and then sync is a breeze
[02:58:47] <dds> I've also got a python script that takes an XML export of an org-mode file and imports it into trac
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[03:12:35] <elvstone> hm, think my problem is related to http://trac.edgewall.org/ticket/4103
[03:12:41] <elvstone> anyway, lunch. bbl.
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[03:17:46] <zachtib> hey, how can I set the name/email for my account on my Trac page?
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[03:41:24] <zikus> hi all
[03:42:28] <zikus> i'm trying to configure python on my apace for trac
[03:42:58] <zikus> just normal python not mod_python, am i correct?
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[04:15:28] <zikus> is it okay if i install mod_python on apache, this will work with trac?
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[04:25:15] <carisenda> hi, does anyone know why my trac 0.8.1 would not be sending ticket notifications to one of our users, but would send a cc if you put him in that field?
[04:25:55] <carisenda> i'm watching the exim logs, when he's given a ticket the mail is not send, if he's cc'd it works fine
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[04:37:15] <elvstone> hmf. i don't get why it's not working anymore (after 0.9 -> 0.10 upgrade), this is my conf: http://dose.se/dev.dose.se.conf.txt, tips very welcome.
[04:38:08] <flox> hi, where i find the "milestone by date" widget?
[04:38:15] <flox> like this one: https://stanley.cs.utoronto.ca/csc49x/drproject/DrProject/ticket?action=new
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[05:00:27] <zikus> is mod_python on apache going to be okay with trac?
[05:00:37] <zikus> or need to be normal python?
[05:00:57] <Niels-> mod_python is fine
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[05:06:46] <zikus> aha,
[05:06:48] <zikus> thank you
[05:09:55] <gordonjcp> mod_python is what I use...
[05:17:24] <zikus> installing now,
[05:21:15] <Niels-> gordonjcp, do you use http basic auth with mod_python ?
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[05:29:09] <zikus> just completed mod_python on apache, do you know how can i check it working properly or not?
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[05:29:53] <Niels-> restart apache and look at error.log
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[05:32:19] <zikus> all look okay and i also follow this link and i can see "hello world"
[05:32:21] <zikus> http://www.modpython.org/live/current/doc-html/inst-testing.html
[05:32:43] <gordonjcp> Niels-: yes
[05:33:17] <zikus> but the code is look difference from when i try to use normal python and mod_python, thay y i just want to check first
[05:33:50] <Niels-> HttpAuth is working well with CGI, I set the handler to Python and an asserrtionerror pop up instead of the login dialog. Any clue ?
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[05:55:52] <frepe> jborg?
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[06:10:44] <Niels-> Does anybody knows why I'm getting "Authentication information not available." while clicking "Login" and no Http Basic Auth. My basic auth configuration seems correct
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[06:58:57] <zikus> do you know what this measn?
[06:58:58] <zikus> PythonHandler trac.web.modpython_frontend
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[08:00:16] <zachtib> does anyone know how i can set my Trac user's real name and email after i've created the account?
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[08:04:03] <marlun> How do I link to the frontpage in my wiki?
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[08:12:11] <elvstone> hm. shouldn't clearsilver highlight ruby sources? it highlights .c source for me, but not .rb.
[08:13:57] <elvstone> oh sorry. it's enscript doing that..
[08:15:52] <elvstone> ah. need to download highlighting rules, nevermind.
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[08:43:37] <coderanger> marlun: [/ link]
[08:44:03] <marlun> coderanger, thank you :)
[08:45:47] <marlun> coderanger, i did [wiki:/ Test] and it does link to the wiki frontpage but it gets a ? after it as if it linked to a page thats not created.
[08:46:08] <coderanger> marlun: [wiki:WikiStart Test]
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[09:23:33] <zikus> managed to get python and apace working
[09:23:42] <zikus> jusy install the 0.10.2 version
[09:23:53] <zikus> it install on python folder is it correct?
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[09:40:41] <zikus> i dont get the install bet!!
[09:41:30] <webustany> hi, what's a good value for authz_module_name if I set the authz_file to my SVN passwd file ?
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[11:23:54] <Z32Kyle> hello all, how do I stop the standalone server ? (Suse Linux)
[11:24:12] <misc> how did you started it ?
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[11:24:34] <Z32Kyle> tracd --port 8000 /path/to/environment
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[11:31:31] <Z32Kyle> misc did you have an answer? (i just killed the process)
[11:32:12] <misc> Z32Kyle: well, yes, ctrl C
[11:32:29] <Z32Kyle> ;)
[11:32:45] <Z32Kyle> i guess we both used the same sledgehammer.
[11:36:07] <misc> well, a initscript is not doing anything magic
[11:36:15] <misc> it just send a signal to stop
[11:37:04] <Z32Kyle> so no difference in the long run...
[11:37:27] <misc> well, depend on the signal :)
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[11:38:43] <Z32Kyle> i guess my question would be better asked as: is there a best way, or gentle method to shutdown the trac stand alone server from the shell?
[11:38:53] <Z32Kyle> sorry terminal
[11:39:30] <misc> i would use a init script, personnaly
[11:40:54] <Z32Kyle> k, thanks.
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[11:47:41] <Surye> Hmm.. is trac not updated in real time? I just commited something, and it hasn't showed up in the timeline, no the Browse Source
[11:48:30] <Surye> Had to restart apache to get the change to click >_<
[11:49:02] <zikus> is "clearsilver" necessary for the trac?
[11:50:03] <pacopablo> i fyou run 0.10.x or less yes,
[11:50:09] <misc> zikus: yes, for the stable version
[11:50:12] <pacopablo> if you want to be bleeding edge and run trunk, then no
[11:50:22] <misc> Surye: it is, are you running with mod_python ?
[11:50:28] <misc> Surye: maybe a caching problem ?
[11:50:29] <Surye> misc, Yes
[11:51:04] <Surye> Hmm.. I don't remember it doing that last night now that I think about it
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[12:00:32] <jeeplover> Hello, have a trac ldap question. I have ldapplugin working with apache auth. What I would like to have happen is read only public access and ldap auth for logins/write permmisions.
[12:01:03] <jeeplover> But it doesn't look like you can disable apache auth and have the ldapplugin work
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[12:02:45] <zikusB> is "clearsilver" compulsary for trac?
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[12:03:36] <Surye> zikusB, For .10.x and lower
[12:03:53] <Surye> zikusB, Not for trunk
[12:08:46] <zikusB> hrr, i'm trying to install .10.2..
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[12:09:13] <zikusB> just got my python work with my apache.:(
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[12:10:27] <zikusB> I think mod_python does this already
[12:10:37] <zikusB> no?
[12:12:22] <pacopablo> mmod_python does what already?
[12:12:38] <zikusB> does clearsilver
[12:12:51] <pacopablo> what do you mean "does clearsilver" ?
[12:12:59] <pacopablo> mod_python has very little to do with clearsilver
[12:13:08] <pacopablo> they do not depend on one another
[12:13:13] <zikusB> perhap i'm wrong
[12:13:30] <pacopablo> what are you trying to avoid?
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[12:14:23] <zikusB> well, i just managed install python on apache and now i got to install clearsilver for trac to work
[12:14:46] <pacopablo> yes
[12:15:00] <pacopablo> mod_python will not install clearsilver for you
[12:15:22] <zikusB> okay, will install clearsilver and come back again.
[12:19:38] <tsb> 911
[12:19:44] <tsb> 'pagetopdf' does't export images
[12:19:56] <tsb> it's just a dot
[12:20:30] <tsb> (even if I specify width/height)
[12:24:54] <zikusB> just one last question, i just installed the clearsilver -Binaries(win32) on python directory, do i have to do anything on apache?
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[12:29:03] <tsb> doh, it doesn't handle .png
[12:41:01] <tsb> o.O actually it does, just not images if the same url - if I move to some other site it works
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[12:43:05] <jeeplover> Hello, have a trac ldap question. I have ldapplugin working with apache auth. What I would like to have happen is read only public access and ldap auth for logins/write permmisions.
[12:43:14] <jeeplover> any takers on this question yet?
[12:43:47] <jeeplover> I can do it with two different location directives, but that's cludgy
[12:52:56] <pacopablo> cboos: do you kow how I can write a wiki syntax to get everything inbetween \\ and \\, including | characters?
[12:54:04] <cboos> well you mean, matching something like \\n'importe|quel|texte\\ ?
[12:54:23] <pacopablo> yeah
[12:55:09] * pacopablo is trying to remeber what parts are his code and what parts were ripped from trac propper :)
[12:57:17] <pacopablo> r'(?:^|(?<=\W))(?:\\\\(%s)\\\\)(?:(?=\W)|$)' % WORD_RE where WORD_RE = r"[\w\s/\-,:\.'!]+" doesn't seem to work
[12:58:26] <pacopablo> I've got other syntaxes based off of the same regex pattern and they work, but I honestly can't remember wherre I found the pattern
[12:58:48] <pacopablo> though I know I didn't figure it out myself, as I'm not proficient enough with regexes to do something so complex :)
[12:59:20] <cboos> yeah, it's not that complex, it's just it's a pain with the \
[12:59:41] <pacopablo> but shouldn't escpaing them do the trick?
[13:01:45] <pacopablo> hehe, I think I know what it is
[13:01:50] <pacopablo> it's not my regex
[13:01:52] <pacopablo> it's python
[13:01:52] * cboos still gets caught by the search vs. match thing...
[13:02:15] <pacopablo> the input is is getting escaped
[13:02:24] <pacopablo> re.compile(r'(?:^|(?<=\W))(?:\\\\(%s)\\\\)(?:(?=\W)|$)' % WORD_RE).search(r'\\|2.25|onsite\\').groups()
[13:02:27] <pacopablo> owkrs
[13:02:39] <pacopablo> er, works, but with out the 'r' on the input it doesn't match
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[13:04:19] <cboos> ok, I also have something now ;)
[13:04:22] <cboos> print re.search(r'\\\\((?:[^\\]|\\(?!\\))+)\\\\', r'\aaa\\hello|guys\hows\life\\xxxx').group(1)
[13:04:28] <cboos> hello|guys\hows\life
[13:05:09] <cboos> hope it helps ;)
[13:05:39] <pacopablo> well, it seems that it may be an input thing, but thaks anyway.
[13:06:59] <pacopablo> nevermind, it's not an input issue
[13:07:09] <pacopablo> it's a /me doing someting else wrong issue :)
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[13:08:32] <pacopablo> hmm, no, it was my regex, yours works fine cboos. Thanks.
[13:09:31] <cboos> you're welcome, nice problem (I wonder what it could be good for ;) )
[13:11:59] <pacopablo> evil, pure evil! :)
[13:33:38] <coderanger> pacopablo: Moving in on my turf? ;-)
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[13:41:32] <bmcquay> aloha
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[13:44:29] <bmcquay> http://pastebin.com/836414
[13:44:40] <bmcquay> i'm having a strage problem inserting a row into the database
[13:45:17] <bmcquay> seems silly
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[13:48:33] <FFighter> hi
[13:49:19] <bmcquay> if i return the query and manually run it using the sqlite command line client it inserts fine
[13:49:20] <FFighter> guys, I really some help on getting svn to work with trac... I managed to get it to work but now I receive a "Unsupported version control system "svn" error message
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[13:50:32] <coderanger> FFighter: python -c 'from svn import fs'
[13:51:01] <FFighter> Traceback (most recent call last):
[13:51:01] <FFighter> File "<string>", line 1, in ?
[13:51:01] <FFighter> ImportError: No module named svn
[13:51:13] <coderanger> FFighter: The bindings aren't installed
[13:51:32] <coderanger> bmcquay: pastebin.com isn't loading for me
[13:51:36] <coderanger> lisppaste5: url
[13:51:36] <lisppaste5> To use the lisppaste bot, visit http://paste.lisp.org/new/trac and enter your paste.
[13:52:08] <FFighter> coderanger: But I did the "make swig-py; make install-swig-py" and everything appeared to run ok
[13:52:27] <coderanger> FFighter: You probably need to add a .pth file
[13:52:37] <FFighter> hmmm.. where ?
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[13:52:50] <coderanger> one sec
[13:52:59] <FFighter> coderanger: allright ;)
[13:54:13] <coderanger> echo "/usr/lib/svn-python" >/usr/lib/python/2.x/site-packages/subversion.pth
[13:54:22] <lisppaste5> bmcquay pasted "screwy insert" at http://paste.lisp.org/display/31036
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[13:54:48] <coderanger> bmcquay: You dont want to do the interpolation yourself
[13:55:03] <FFighter> coderanger: what do I do with the .pth after its created ?
[13:55:34] <FFighter> coderanger: Sorry, but I didn't get the point
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[13:55:42] <lisppaste5> coderanger annotated #31036 with "do this" at http://paste.lisp.org/display/31036#1
[13:55:59] <coderanger> FFighter: Try the python -c 'from svn import fs' again
[13:56:48] <bmcquay> coderanger: meaning?
[13:56:57] <coderanger> bmcquay: Look at the new code
[13:57:03] <coderanger> that shows how to do it
[13:57:19] <tsb> coderanger: any idea why <!-- PAGE BREAK --> (http://www.htmldoc.org/documentation.php/Comments.html) using the pagetopdf plugin wouldn't work?
[13:57:19] <bmcquay> ahh
[13:57:25] <FFighter> coderanger: The same...
[13:57:34] <coderanger> tsb: Works for us
[13:57:44] <tsb> coderanger: hrm